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Resumes suck, and there has to be a better way to weed through applicants.
The rest of us plebs are in a less enviable position: we KNOW we're the best coder/blogger/manager/artist in town, but the recruiters don't want any application other than a corporate-speak covering letter and a bullet point resume. How the hell is that meant to convey my personality and strong work ethos?
The only way to do it is in person, and MS was the only good tech company that came to my school.
I don't think that would be any more valuable than a resume -- if there's no interaction, how are you really supposed to get to know the person? That 5 minutes would be used to do exactly what a resume serves to do, but much less effectively.
Resumes are meant for screening and these podcasts would make that more difficult.
You still have to pay for Mariam BMW and was unable to afford cool toys (like XBox at least once).
It's sad that people repeat their past mistakes ;-)
Why not add a detailed "Web 2.0" resume to your http://robertscoble.com/ site and create a print friendly or PDF version - then forward recruiters there
btw:
Every techie should Google themselves before an important job interview
Blogs, Vlog's, how about a PodCV or a videoCV!? With the current online media explosion, there's no reason why you couldn't put together a brief outline of your skillset via a video attached to an email
BTW, the live Flash streaming from the PodTech site is cool. I also see MSN spaces now supports RSS feeds via a new gadget aka Windows Live. Soon you won't need Frontpage or Dreamweaver to knock up your site with Ajax technology.. just pick and place
Rob Atkinson
Kilkenny, Ireland
I agree with you. You did a good thing. I am sure things will cahnge a lot in the coming days. Resume will no longer be important- blogs will be.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/11/us/11recruit....
"Some companies, including Enterprise Rent-a-Car, Ernst & Young and Osram Sylvania, said they did not use the Internet to check on college job applicants.
"I'd rather not see that part of them," said Maureen Crawford Hentz, manager of talent acquisition at Osram Sylvania. "I don't think it's related to their bona fide occupational qualifications."
More than a half-dozen major corporations, including Morgan Stanley, Dell, Pfizer, L'Oréal and Goldman Sachs, turned down or did not respond to requests for interviews."
Your internet persona may say more about you than you like to believe. I gotta think there are still many companies that won't want to invest in a resource unless they can find about how they've actually performed!!! Blogs don't tell you how a person makes sound business decisions or can meet goals, think strategically or solve problems. I think it's risky and dumb to assess someone's qualifications based solely on their blog or internet presense.
The recruitment industry is full of wasters - its nice to make them squirm.
And, hubris is a bad thing if it's out of proportion. In this case it isn't.
I'm happy to both network and help people with resumes or discuss my resume and background with folks in this space, it's called positive networking and I'm pleased to do it.
Thanks.
I don't want a job that I need to send a resume into. I've already had enough of those. I want jobs where people see what I'm interested in and see my talents and offer me work to fill those. A resume isn't a good way for you to figure that out. At least not for someone who has blogged almost every day for five years.
It would seem the value I would get from hiring you based on your blog would be the same value a casino gets by hiring a retired boxer to be a greater. A high profile blogging geek name, but...well...what?
Seriously, do you really think reading your blog gives a prospective employer a good reading on your skills and would allow that employer to find the right match for your...ummmm "skills"? By refusing to send me a resume my first thought would be... "what don't you want me to know?"
Now my resume is part of the conversation. It's a given in all my communications. You can see it at http://bill.emurse.com
It's who I am. It's what I'm up to. I'm considering evolving it into a state of the union type living document. God Bless the Internet. =]
And in no way, shape, or form would I consider a blog to suffice in absence of resume, CV, or other in case that's where you are going with this post.
At the end of the day we're all superstars to few and nobodies to most. Burning bridges with recruiters probably feels good right now in the wake of your new job, but who knows - maybe someday you'll wish you had a nice in at Yahoo (I realize you probably do, regardless). Or that you hadn't used your soapbox to celebrate the failure of somebody in this industry to cower at your webbiness. I'd err on the side of humility. It just feels better.
You're right about the hubris, though. I might need a job again someday. But, I hope I'll always have the opportunity to work for clued in people who care about the people they are trying to hire more than the process that'll keep them employed. But, that's just me.
Marketing Headhunter: you had a great post. Everyone should read it. It's at http://www.marketingheadhunter.com/executive_se...
I disagree with it, though. My body of work is a lot more than what will show up on my resume. A resume doesn't tell me much at all about who someone is and what real skills they have. Which is why they spend eight hours interviewing you after reading your resume at Microsoft.
Dmad: you point out why you still need an interview. In an interview you could say "it looks like you do a lot of the videos, but I'm unclear on what you actually do, can you explain that?"
It is not being a prima donna if you're the BEST IN THE WORLD!!1!!oneoneone!!eleventy!
It was not easy task to assembly your early life section and it's even more hard to do expirience one.
There is still nothing in your Wikipedia article about your discount camera store (LZ Premiums) expirience.
No college’s school newspaper info.
Nothing at all about Fawcette and Winnov.
Even more - there is way to figure your actual education.
Is it Bachelors or Masters or you not graduated at all ( https://www.mainfunction.com/DotNetInAction/Tec... )
"almost graduated, I still have one class left to complete".
As you know, it doesn't work that way. I admit, a resume is like an X-ray: All it can show you is the patient's career "bone structure," and typically the maladies that will kill a candidate's career don't appear on a resume (drinking problems, fear of flying, abusive interpersonal style, etc.). That's why there are interviews, reference checks, Google research, etc.
But your readers mustn't get the idea that resumes are on the way out. They are not, if only because companies rely on them so heaviliy for their executive pass-around value -- especially in the early stages of a candidate's hiring process. Perhaps they rely on them too heavily -- and I think that was your beef to begin with.
Not bother to search for his name, I only have this advice for Mr. Scobleizer: grow up! Regardless of your talent, you will find that a humble attitude would go a long way toward impressing many of your peers, a lot more than posting this blog (and its follow-ups, maybe?)
Just my two cents.
And writing "it gets even funnier. He just asked "where are you going?" very much comes across as a "don't you know who I am" statement.
Admitting to snarky jerk behavior doesn't lessen the impact of the behavior.
Such people may also think if they kept banging your door you may eventually open it unless you call 911-remember 'Buddy Fox'? we never know, they could have their own success stories to tell you.
Phil
http://www.redmonk.com/cote/archives/2006/03/li...
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Profile as Resume
I'd like to see LinkedIn make this happen: instead of sending a resume to a company, I'd send a LinkedIn URL. (And, no, I'm not looking for a job, it's just an example)
I've typed up all my crap into LinkedIn, I have some lovely, kind recommendations from former co-workers, and my LinkedIn page better represents who I am than a resume ever could: web pages have links! In fact, my resume is just cut-and-pasted from LinkedIn. Resumes suck. Web-pages are much more rich.
For example, here's mine: http://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherhamilton
bob wyman
(Resume available on request)
If you are requesting that Resumes go the way of the 8-track, then you are also potentially opening yourself up to a world of discrimination and recruiter opinion. If you rely solely on the internet and blogging, when I get information about your name I COULD see the same things others have seen "someone who is very defensive when the heat is on. Can’t take criticism very well. Has trouble prioritizing his work", etc. Where a resume/CV could get you through the door or even initiate phone contact. Obviously live phone contact or in person interviews are where the potential employer will gain the best access to your skills and potential within their organization.
One thing many of you have overlooked is the time required by HR to "look into" every applicant or potential applicant's background. If a recruiter is working on 20+ jobs w/ 100's of potential applicants, there just isn't enough time in the day to accomplish that. Not with also keeping time to fill in the picture with looking at quality of hire.
Just some thoughts, thanks for listening!
KK
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Thanks for the tips… Best regards.