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Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

Henry — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:37:06 -0000

I feel that the steam in 'Mac is superior to PC/Vista' is swooshing out. Look at the 'Why Mac' on Apple website - the only main point seems to be - 'Mac already had what Vista has now'. So what? Where are the softwares for Mac?
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Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

gmail — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:31:35 -0000

vista is good

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

Bob Hall — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:12:29 -0000

What I don't like about Mac users is that they are not "users." They are members of the Mac Cult. Mac "users" are emotionally attached to their machine, their software, and the other Mac cult members. Steve Jobs knows this, which is why he treats his cult members so badly by making all his new computers incompatible with his old ones. Mac cult members accept this obvious marketing ploy as the price for having "the latest and the best." There is no question that Mac software is really cool, but that comes with a high price. Mac users claim to be less "geeky," less interested in technical stuff. That may be true, but it proves just how expensive ignorance can be. The truth, I suspect, is that Mac users are just as involved with their software as most Windows users. It is true that Windows is less stable than the Mac OS, but usually the instability comes from using something from the vast array of options available to PC users, options unavailable to Mac users. For me, a former Mac Addict, backwards compatibility, much lower prices, and the flexibility of the PC far outweight the price I have had to pay with "instability."

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

Stuart — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 18:26:13 -0000

I have started to have problems with my Toshiba Tecra M4 tablet "Not enought resources to..." to go into sleep mode. The machine will turn itself back on with the lid closed -- heating up my backpack and wering down the batteries.

Yes, I know this an old (2005) machine and the problem is likely to be some Windows update. But this problem has caused me to give up the Tablet PC and switch to a MacBool Pro. But, I will still long for Tablet Mac.

SaS

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

bluvg — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:33:29 -0000

#43, 67: just want to point out--it's a pretty standard convention on computers/laptops in general that you can get the equivalent of switching off the power by holding down the power button for 5-10 seconds. You don't need to pull the battery to force a complete shutdown.

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

Christopher G D Tipper — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:08:12 -0000

I'm glad you raise this issue, as there is now a chance that Microsoft will address it. I just bought a Sony VAIO FZ21M with Vista Home Premium, and I had exactly the same problem. I left it in sleep mode for a few hours the other day, and when I returned it had 'woken up'. Problem was the screen was off and the only way I could get access to the desktop again was to pull out the battery and reboot. There is no indication what caused it.

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

BobTurbo — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:09:19 -0000

It is probably bluetooth breaking when trying to handle sleep states. Have a look in event viewer at the time of trying to wake or when it slept and look for bluetooth errors. If so, uninstall packaged bluetooth software from add/remove programs.

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

jkavanagh58 — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:57:01 -0000

This article points to the one reason a Mac is better; it's the hardware not the operating system. Vista is getting nailed because of the rip offs like Dell.

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

Tim — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:04:05 -0000

We have a bunch of Dell laptops here and have seen various mobo problems. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the cause of your problems.

The good thing about Dell (and by extension Microsoft OS) is that they come out to us next working day to fix any faults. Is this type of support available for Macs?

Having said that, XP runs much better on our Vista capable laptops than Vista does.

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

Brandon Paddock — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:43:41 -0000

Robert - that's a hardware issues, not a Windows vs Mac OS issue.

I run Vista on my Macbook. It never fails to resume from sleep. Never.

Leopard resumes slightly faster when I open it (although partly this may be deception because I don't resume to a login screen on Leopard, but do on Windows). It takes about a second to resume to Leopard, and about 2-3 seconds to resume to Vista. Very small difference.

Vista goes to sleep faster, though. Leopard sometimes sits there for up to a minute after I close it before the light on the outside goes into its "sleeping" heartbeat mode.

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

Tim — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:45:04 -0000

Perception is everything. As product man states well, it may be a Sony, or a Dell or whatever, but when there is a problem, that MS Vista logo is very prominent.
MS wants everyone to know where the os is coming from. "Vista Ready", "Running MS Windows".... stickers tend to be all over the machine. And since MS dominates the market, well, they get the blame. Sometimes undeservedly. Most of the time not.

Thomas makes a good point as well. MS and OEM's are too worried about "innovation" that they don't take enough care of the essentials, or at least it appears that way. The sleep function is good example.

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

product man — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:23:18 -0000

I have to agree with you. As a Mac user and a PC user, my biggest complain about Vista is startup time and inconsistent startup. Why does it just turn on when I open the lid? Most of the times yes, other times, I have to reboot it. Confounding. This is because Apple controls the hardware and Microsoft doesn't. For Microsoft and its hardware vendors, it just ends in a finger point game, with Microsoft saying, "hey, we did out part". Its pretty much true that Microsoft did its part and the hardware guys from Dell to Sony fail, but from a consumer's view this is a "Vista problem". I don't think this situation will ever improve across the board.

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

Tim — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:10:32 -0000

"Vista is a solid and well designed OS and is selling well and will continue to sell into the hundreds of millions, they’ve already passed the one hundred million mark in sales during year one."

uhhhh, isn't that like AT&T of the 1970's stating that the rotary dial telephone is a big hit and will continue to sell well?

Vista will continue to sell since it is the defacto standard and that XP, at some point, will no longer be offered on packaged systems.

Granted a few will make the leap to Apple. Some may even be tempted to get the linux boxes that are being sold at walmart, since those will surf the web, do email and have Open Office.

A question on my part, is Vista a build of Windows Server 2003 with a different UI and other "innovations"? ( MS has really overdone that word)

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

thomas — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 19:45:06 -0000

I am always amazed what computer users find as acceptable these days.

The fact that the computer doesn't start properly means to me the product doesn't work. Period.

It's like buying a car that only starts properly sometimes. When it doesn't start you need to disconnect the distributor cab which in most cases will fix the problem but you don't really know why. Would you find that acceptable?

At the end of the day I believe manufacturers should get their act together and first make sure they have a working product before they pack more innovation in... or perhaps it's that "innovation" that is often causing the problem.

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

Joe — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:16:11 -0000

Yep, in the minds of the Mac fans Vista is Toast, it's the same story when XP came out Vs Windows 2000,the same BS reasoning,the reality of the matter is that Vista is a solid and well designed OS and is selling well and will continue to sell into the hundreds of millions, they've already passed the one hundred million mark in sales during year one.

Microsoft sales are up and continue to trend upwards,its wishful thinking, but sorry.. Microsoft isn't going away.

I have a few Mac fan friends and we always agree to disagree, but otherwise we usually have a good time together without the stillborn arguments about who's OS is better and why.

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

Chris Hanson — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:01:47 -0000

What does it matter that the tools to build anything related to Silverlight will be on Windows? All that will do is serve to further marginalize an already also-ran technology...

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

mark — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:51:40 -0000

Even on XP, I've had the same problem with startup on both Dell and ThinkPad laptops. Never had that problem with my Powerbook. Worse, the XP laptops don't always go to sleep, in which case, I'd have a very hot laptop, or a dead battery laptop, when I'd pull it out of the bag. So now I have to wait until it's actually asleep before I put it in the bag. Annoying.

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

Ioannus de Verani — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:09:17 -0000

It has got to be pretty cool, though, to have companies just sending you free stuff to play with...

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Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

Steve — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:38:38 -0000

scoble, you do understand that when you get a BSOD its usually caused by a hardware/driissue and not software, right?

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

PK — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:12:23 -0000

Any day mac is the best

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

Mr_Simple — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 10:41:32 -0000

Sounds like the issue is Dell, not Vista or Mac.

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

mario — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 08:05:19 -0000

Apple and MAC OS for ever.Never buy Microsoft software.Especially an operating system.

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

Diego — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 05:12:06 -0000

Those problems you're having aren't exclusive to Vista. I've seen the same problems (happening a lot) with XP on Dell laptops.

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

Ganesh — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 05:05:08 -0000

I am using Vista on HP Pavilion for 8 months now. Let me tell you it rocks!! I am an ardent Mac fan (I don't why. I have never used Mac). Day after day, I feel that the steam in 'Mac is superior to PC/Vista' is swooshing out. Look at the 'Why Mac' on Apple website - the only main point seems to be - 'Mac already had what Vista has now'. So what? Where are the softwares for Mac? You have to take recourse to Windows again for having better compatibility range (through Bootcamp etc.). why should I do that when I have almost all substantial features on my Vista (even if they are late, they are there NOW).
I am using PC's for almost 6 years & believe me, I have never seen a blue screen - not on XP and not on Vista now.
And I will not for sure go for Mac because it is a one click start/shut down machine. I would rather dual boot my machine with Linux (which is free).
C'mmon guys, these are non-substantial features. I get bugged off when the fan of Mac next to me starts making helicopter's sounds and I can feel its heat.

Re: Why Vista isn’t as good as the Mac

Christopher Coulter — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:57:21 -0000

Mac vs. PC/Windows, cue up Usenet and BBS flame wars of yore. Personally, I prefer Atari ST over the Amiga, as MultiTOS is just THE stuff, with no start-up/shutdown issues whatsoever. MyAES Foreve!