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As you know, I am a BIG fan of Twitter and that's because like you, I find the 'noise' of Twitter massively valuable. I was chatting with you when the China Earthquake news broke across Twitter. It was amazing how the picture of the disaster made its way through 'the noise' - It was a little like watching a photograph develop in a darkroom!
We are in the midst of a real change in the way that news is both broken AND reported. The coming 12 months are certainly going to be interesting (for us bloggers anyway!)
Jim Connolly
The Tech News Blog
Use the Twitter / China rumor as example. It may turn out that it was just Entertainment sites being shut down - but because of one Twitter, information about memorial sites being shut down made it to one the the most visited blogs on Technorati. Which means it will make its way to many other sources.
We need higher standards for prestigious organizations because of their effect and footprint on society.
Twitter is just two friends gossiping - while reputable news sources want info from reliable sources and substantiation
I have to say i love the noise too. If you wait for the news to pick things up you are way behind the curve and trying to catch up. The Internet is like the stock market. The REAL money is made by the people who MADE the stock move not the guy who read about it in the Wall Street Journal.
I'm not suggesting that Scoble's talking about going through the informational garbage here. But sometimes the ratio of noise/trash to nuggets might seem like it.
Louis: indeed, some of Robert's inferences are wrong since reverse engineering Techmeme is tricky. Overall, Robert continues to be rather savvy about Techmeme.
I finally came to the conclusion, I'm not a noise junky, I'm a news junky. I look for useful news that is a little ahead of mainstream and attempt to apply it.
Bottom line, you have talent in sorting the noise; I have talents in finding useful applications for news... I think I'm fine with that - at least for my own sanity!
And I'm also asking: what did knowing about the Chinese earthquake minutes before other folks... contribute to your life? Seriously. Did it help you in a great way? Was it highly useful? Greatly entertaining? Extra meaningful?
I think folks (including myself sometimes) should step back and ask: how much does what you call "noise" contribute to the overall, long-term quality of our lives? And how much does it keep us mildly entertained and too busy to follow through on meaningful, long-term products?
You may know about the next great Web 2.0 company even days before others, but is playing with the Latest Great Thing for a few extra days going to change your life?
Perspective. Perspective.
Yes. It helped cement my reputation as being a person who is early with news. It also got me interviewed by the Associated Press, was in the BBC, and NPR is still hanging out. Not that that really matters in the grand scheme of things. The earthquake was one small example that really didn't matter to my life all that much (other than if I had relatives or friends there I would have been able to maybe get through before phone lines became jammed).
But on being first to see new tech companies or new tech trends? That absolutely affects me and my ability to remain part of the conversation about this industry and where it's going. Plus it lets me build relationships with people who then invite me over for interviews.
Google News: Only tracks sites that have “teams” of people working on them. That usually means there’s an organized effort. That alone blocks 99.9% of bloggers and Twitterers from even being considered.
We have 5 authors. Each time we ask to be added in Google News, we are declined. They do not even check our News Site (even on a Google Domain). So this statement (above) is totally incorrect.
2ndly, Google has published nudity in the Google news. We wrote about that earlier ...
and lastly , we are about to break a story were other services offered by Google do promote sex (not intentionally to be assured). Watch for that update as well. (Yes we will provide proof)
Techmeme is okay. Very similar to Megite as they seem to run the same stories ...
I say one thing for Google News , each time we write about them , there is an immediate reaction from Google. Meaning : Now there is no more nudity in Google News, but we are finding it else where easily in the Google Domain.
They are trying yes, plugging each hole as they find them (or we do). Email-ing Google is useless, it is better to write about it.
I will try to include in our news this week where all the flaws are in Google & where. Perhaps this will spike your "NOISE" ....
Robert, this was indeed a great story. Keep up the Good work !
Lynn
too bad because gabe rivera had a good thing going for a while.
"FriendFeed" is crack for me! (everday geek!)
Please go on a long holiday, and discover some qualities worth sharing.
here's a sampling:
(wheelscore): The German Car Blog: Audi A3 Clubsport quattro: Cool design study made for W... - http://wheelscore.com/out.php?id=278161
(designcarter): Design[grin]ivide - Markup + FTP + Terminal + More = Coda = Awesomeness!: I’ve alwa.. http://tinyurl.com/658mjc
(ernohannink): Nieuw op HappyHouris Design kan ook gelukkig maken: Een leuke presentatie over ho.. http://twurl.nl/xz8mhz
(TChed): Starbucks Under fire for new logo design: http://tinyurl.com/5a3z4x
(candiluu): @jaimef Miami Vice is an excelent example of poor sound design.
(devfunnel): [design: A List Apart] Zebra Striping: Does it Really Help? http://www.alistapart.com/articles/zebrastripin...
(askrom): I [heart] design history, but when a designer claims that today's challenges are no different than decades ago, they just seem old and bitter.
(devfunnel): [design: COLOURlovers] When I'm Horny http://tinyurl.com/6xlhaz
(twHIVE_W20): [-O] Finishing up a CMS with an oversized design for old people in redlands ...catering to old peo.. http://tinyurl.com/55wq7t
(sarahatwood): @douglassarine well, i wouldn't recommend you get ladies underwear but if you insist the design goes in the back
(tjreo): Trying to prefer twitterific over twhirl but just can't. Features important to me win out over beautiful design.
(melmcbride): why must they design so many women's products with Barbie doll aesthetics? http://tinyurl.com/64r66n
(makkura): How Design '08 opening keynote!! The fun starts now!!
Sent at 4:03 PM on Sunday
(hans_engel): New site design is live! Sorry for the stinky 'About Me' section - I was never good at writing those. http://is.gd/ihK
(laurict): Interior design suggestion: when building a public men's room, don't install highly reflective tile behind the toilet. Mildly disturbing.
(kingkool68): New blog post: Steve Jobs Cannot Design A Mouse http://tinyurl.com/5wbhkj
(kbondelli): I don't even want to think about the hours lost in web design because Microsoft made an inferior product in IE and people choose to use it
(JamiePappas): Great post by @chrisbrogan re: blog design - check it out! http://tinyurl.com/6q5zhw
(designforum): Graphic Design Forum Dosugus cushion: Dosugus cushion looks like a black screen a.. http://tinyurl.com/5m2s2d
(wordpressjob): New job posted! Wordpress blog design http://tinyurl.com/6bvnr6
(AndyLenz): schönes neues design bei meinem neuen #twitter lieblingsdienst #twitturly http://twitturly.com/
(TheJoshuaTree): I dont know why, but every-time I listen to Design Matters With Debbie Millman, I feel like a carp designer :/
(Beaverdale): Drinking ACME pale ale just because I like the retro-y design of the label (but it is pretty darn good beer). Every day should be like this.
Yo, Michael C... I find that I disagree with Scoble more often than I agree with him, but dude, what's with the *personal* hate? Given that you clearly have no interest in, nay, actually can't stand his commentary, why read it? The Internet's a grand, big, and flexible place. Find some corners you like and perhaps save on blood pressure medication :-)
"Noise" before the China quake? Does that mean you are really a Princeton Egg in disguise?
It's kinda interesting to confirm that the Internet has become real-time - but it's been real-time for years now - twitter just makes it easier to notice.
The greatest service any noise trawler can provide me is to filter the noise. Your filter is your value proposition. Be very careful how you play with the filter's settings.
Walt Bogdanich, or Jake Hooker? Amy Harmon? Jo Becker ? Barton Gellman? Steve Fainaru? Gene Weingarten? Steven Pearlstein? Brett Blackledge? Kenneth Weiss? Usha Lee McFarling?
Susan Schmidt? James Grimaldi?, R. Jeffrey Smith? Dana Priest? James Risen? Eric Lichtblau? Joseph Kahn? jim Yardley? Dele Olojede?
If you are going to make such a bold claim, at least name some names.
information -> transmitter -> communication channel -> receiver
The channel acts as a filter.
You are pointing out that Google News acts as a filter prior to the transmission as their methodology slects only "reputable" or "highly regarded" information sources.
I'm guessing that most readers of your blog, greater social/online network, possess sufficient receiver processing power to parse the noise, so therefore they desire a high bandwidth transmitter and communication channel.
However, I don't believe that everyone wishes to do the receiver post-processing and often prefer news which is easier to digest.
thanks for the post
If I may use a crude analogy: It's like having someone else masticate my food before I eat it. I lose out on the nutrients and most of the enjoyment. (Not to mention it's disgusting.) But it saves me the trouble of having to chew. If I had the time or energy or willingness, then of course I'd rather do it myself.
and sorry, steve, you didn't list a single "real journalist." most of the best are not readily known to the general public because we don't seek tabloid-cable tv attention.
http://bpmedge.wordpress.com
Really insightful. Great job.
Noise is for twits news is for people who are too busy doing things that matter to have time to sift thrugh the noise.
An indication that something happened which is getting people's attention but it's usually not till the actual news arrives before people really get to know what it's about.
Asides from that, don't forget that essentially most noise is just coming from the news directly, quickly mentioned by one which happened to be watching the news. It's not like it instantly came from those right at the source of things.
In case you have the time on your hands though to follow what's happening in the world by doing so on services like twitter, blogs or any other form of independent journalism on the net nothing is going to stop you. But for those with less time on their hands google news is all they need, or perhaps better to say what they can spare.
On the other hand, noise is far from a bad thing either. Not that I give anything on whether someone knows it before me or not, but simply for the fact that it creates awareness. After all, better to pick up the latest news through the noise than not picking it up at all.
That NOISE is the sound of ideas being formed as the Internet moves; it's to be embraced by those who want to see the future in advance!
I just wrote a post about Robert's influence on my blog. It's about time he gets the 'props' he deserves - what Scoble's achieved in amazing - stunning. http://thetechnewsblog.com/2008/05/19/the-scobl...
Jim Connolly
The Tech News Blog
n.
1) A stench in the ear. Undomesticated music. The chief product and authenticating sign of civilization.
2)In Computer Science, irrelevant or meaningless data.
1)Devil's Dictionary
2)American Heritage Dictionary
And...
What would happen when corporate companies start listening to the noise instead of to the news? Oh.. a... wait... I guess that's called marketing or maybe customer service but what are the executives doing?
I am sure one day that -will- happen. But not today. And not tomorrow.
;-)