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Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

Fling Brands — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:42:07 -0000

"It’s amazing to see how fast Zuckerberg’s stock is falling in the conversation networks I’m hanging out in."

Seems like this may have been a little premature.

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Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

DJ Boba Fett — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:34:32 -0000

I propose an electronic Jihad against this evil fascistic dictatorship run by a child. Please read my blog at www.myspace.com/djbobafett to see my running trials and tribulations with this site. At this point, they up and cancelled me, with over 200 hours of work on my site, pages, events, profiles and advertisements. They are billing my card even though I no longer have an account. I called the Palo Alto offices at 650-543-4800 to dispute the bill (as it's ads for a deleted site they're billing me for) and had to call 3 times before a human picked up. I talked to a female Sam (supposedly the only Sam that works there, yeah right) and she said they do NOT offer voice billing support. i told her that by refusing to work with me, she is okaying my choice to dispute the charges with my credit card company. We'll see. If you have ANY problems with the site or infrastructure, please call them, ask to talk to SAM, and tell them "DJ Boba Fett sent you."

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

Paul Woodhouse — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:45:09 -0000

Social networking sites probably have a similar shelf life to wherever the latest hot nite spot in town might be . Some close and some ebb and flow. But I'd like anybody to name anywhere that's remained constantly cool for any appreciable amount of time.

Facebook probably started to lose credibility amongst its rank and file the day your average portly tech blogger joined and started rattling on about it. You aren't cool if you dislike beacon. You're cool if you don't care or haven't heard of it.

Call it The Facebook Baby Boomer Blitz if you will.

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

kyle4beantown — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:52:58 -0000

I agree with Bob. They were nowhere to be seen. It's time to undestrand that they are a billion dollar enterprise, not a faternity house

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Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

David Petherick — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 19:39:05 -0000

All very valid points, Robert. I think this is symptomatic of the huge missed opportunity, and farcical lack of foresight that Facebook is only now waking up to.

When the wraps came off in early November, I could NOT believe that they were a) Not going to sell subdomains such as http://mybrand.at.facebook.com b) Not going to have a layered software tool for brands, their PR and Online Media / Marketing companies to claim, manage and administrate groups of business pages c) Not split Social Ads Admin from Page Admin d) Not reveal Beacon well in advance to advertisers and privacy critics and e) Have such sloppy and useless terms and conditions added to deal with pages - http://www.facebook.com/ter...

I thought these guys were smart - but they turn out to be acting like a bunch of green college kids after all, and having set something in motion with little thought for the all-too-obvious consequences, now they’re acting like paranoid a***oles to paper over the mess they made. And it’s a fine mess, to quote Oliver Hardy…

No brand is not run by one person. Facebook have set up a mechanism where major global brands can have their name used or abused by any one person, and their legitimate fans can be disenfranchised, misled, and well-meaning brand advocates and fans can be simply dumped or left in limbo as readily as those who are acting with malicious intent - and all of this damages the credibility of facebook, and will be likely to take up a growing amount of admin time - and that’s before the lawyers get onto things. Get this one: “Facebook reserves the right, but is not obligated, to resolve any complaints, disputes, or potential disputes regarding the infringement of any third party trademarks in connection with your Facebook Page or Facebook URL in any manner it deems appropriate in its sole discretion.” Translation: “We might help you protect your IP, or we might not want to get involved. But whatever, we’re in charge, and your ability to protect your brand is powerless here, OK?”

Pardon my french, but that’s one huge f***ing mess to make, especially if you want to monetize screen (or eyeball) real estate to those brands, and if I were an investor in a company that’s meant to be worth $15bn, I’d be kicking some asses very hard, starting right at the top, because this is the kind of self-inflicted damage that can destroy any company, but which makes the position of what is widely acknowledged to be an arrogant, fast-growth, high-growth and overvalued company very, very tenuous.

The main asset of facebook is their user base, and their only source of cash at present comes from investors and advertisers. If they alienate or marginalise any of these constituencies, they destroy their business.

This could be the tipping point that signals facebook’s decline unless they get this issue dealt with transparently and rapidly - and also creatively, because they really have been very dumb, and put themselves between a rock and a hard place.

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

Karim — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 05:50:39 -0000

You sure enjoy being a dick, eh?

Is that comment meant for me? :)

I enjoy tweaking the noses of morons who project their OWN lack of caring on the rest of the world. :) They end up saying things like "no one cares," when what they really mean is "I personally don't care." You don't care. BFD, thank you for playing and taking the time to tell the six people who DO care that you're so much smarter.

When you press these morons on the point, they end up saying even more idiotic things like, "Well, expressed as a percentage of the Earth's population, very FEW people care." Brilliant. Thanks for that.

Scoble can blog about whatever he wants. He asked why more people don’t care, and I responded.

Where exactly did he ask why more people don't care?

All I see in this post is YOU saying no one outside "the tech press" cares, despite GLOBAL coverage of the story in the mainstream news media.

In a later post, Scoble said, "I backed off cause I see that people just don’t care about this issue the way that I do." Which, you know, is not quite the same thing as asking why the average Joe Moron doesn't care if his privacy gets violated.

If you personally want to close your eyes, clap your hands over your ears and sing ♫ la la la nobody cares ♫, knock yourself out, have fun! Just don't expect everyone else to sing along.

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

Jeff — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 12:02:08 -0000

You sure enjoy being a dick, eh?

Scoble can blog about whatever he wants. He asked why more people don't care, and I responded.

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

Karim — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:26:16 -0000

Think whatever you want, Karim.

Thanks for the permission. ;)

The bulk of humanity, and indeed the bulk of Facebook’s users, could care less about this ongoing story. I don’t care if it appears on the front page of the NYT, that’s the way it is.

"The bulk of humanity" is probably sitting in its own filth right now wondering where its next meal is coming from. And your point is what? Scoble shouldn't blog about anything that doesn't concern them? Or is your point that very few people, expressed as a percentage of Earth's population, have a Facebook account? Thank you Captain Obvious.

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

Jeff — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 13:40:10 -0000

Think whatever you want, Karim. The bulk of humanity, and indeed the bulk of Facebook's users, could care less about this ongoing story. I don't care if it appears on the front page of the NYT, that's the way it is.

The apology isn't even on the front page of Digg, main or tech category. Maybe there's something to that "wisdom of crowds" nonsense after all.

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

david — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 13:26:51 -0000

How can you expect to explain your actions in a simple blog post:

http://blog.facebook.com/bl...

God, this guy is immature and arrogant and should not be running such a company

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

Karim — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 13:23:32 -0000

I’m just glad that in most cases Zuckerberg has the courage to ignore sensationalist trolling.

Yes! Because everyone knows it takes WAY more courage to stick your head in the sand than it does to listen to the complaints of THOUSANDS of customers you supposedly serve.

Personally, I just think it was bad form. I mean, hiding in Der Facebunker, yelling at your generals for their incompetence, feeding cyanide capsules to your favorite dog -- it's all so 1945, honestly.

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

Karim — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 13:07:18 -0000

The tech press, and worse, tech bloggers, are becoming so disconnected with the general population that they lose perspective.

First: What "perspective" was lost, exactly? Scoble's post was that Facebook screwed up and that Zuckerberg should have had some reaction OTHER than hiding under his desk.

Hell, Zuckerberg just posted an weak apology today agreeing with Scoble, stating that Facebook took too long to react.

Second, I guess I needed to give you TWO dozen links to publications like the New York Times, The Washington Post, etc. in order for you to realize that people other than "tech bloggers" care about this issue?

Third, EVEN IF only "tech bloggers" cared, does that mean Scoble should not have blogged about the issue? He's a tech blogger. Do you stalk blogs about knitting and then post comments like, "Only people who knit care about these things?" Does making those kinds of comments give you a warm, snuggly sense of superiority over those crazy, knitting-obsessed people who have lost touch with the "real world?"

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

Sam — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 13:04:24 -0000

Yeah, seems like he would say something, but remember the guy is still under 30, in my view he should have sold the company, and made his billions last year.

pretty soon members will bail, when the next big thing comes along

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Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

LaurelPapworth — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:04:30 -0000

*780,000 joined 'stop newsfeed' groups last year, not 100k.

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

LaurelPapworth — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:01:34 -0000

You confuse the Echo Chamber with the real concerns of members who couldn't care less - less than 100k of 45 million registered concerns about Beacon by joining protest groups. Unlike the 100,000 (who joined groups in 48 hours) who complained about Newsfeed a year ago when FB was only 3 and half million.

It doesn't take any where near as much courage to express half thought out opinions on a one-to-many mechanism such as a blog than it takes to run an online community. I'm just glad that in most cases Zuckerberg has the courage to ignore sensationalist trolling. Unfortunately, in this case he hasn't, as he has just blogged about Beacon. At least he did it on his own blog and not pandering to others...

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

Murray Williams — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:48:34 -0000

23 Year old Kid??? With great paychecks...comes great responsibility... or at least I think that is how it goes.

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

Jeff — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:46:45 -0000

"Things in the tech press have no effect on the real world?"

These days, yeah, that's what I'm saying. The tech press, and worse, tech bloggers, are becoming so disconnected with the general population that they lose perspective.

There is no sudden drop in items on my Facebook feed, and we don't even talk about it at work. (And by the way, for a dotcom, you'd be surprised how few of us even use Facebook.)

I stand by my original statement. The public at large could care less about Facebook's blunder and it will have no effect on the company.

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

113.com — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:32:33 -0000

Give him a break.. he's only a 23 year old "kid" ;-)

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

extrapreneur — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:20:06 -0000

Yeah, they're a big company, you'd have thought they could do better.

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Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

Rodney Rumford — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:26:04 -0000

Robert. The time is much overdue for zuckerberg to step out front and admit the error they made.

This beacon issue is not going away.

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

cockflavored — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 03:29:45 -0000

Robert Scoble..you believe 200,000 new users a day. That would mean if everyone in the USA would stop using facebook, and starting signing back in, then every man woman and child would have a profile by Mid-March..

Quit bitching people, you don't like it, don't use it. No one is forcing you to.

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

Robert Scoble — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:08:40 -0000

anon (67) so you know it's a lie? How? And what's the real number? Certainly looking at how many people want to add me as a friend it's growing quickly.

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

Thunk Different. — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:57:21 -0000

Geez, what is there like 67, 68 of us now... lets bum rush him. c'mon we'll just get him. tie him up for a few minutes so he HAS to listen to us, who's in!?

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

anon — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:51:50 -0000

"Facebook is still seeing 200,000 new users a day."

This is a lie they hope if they repeat enough times will come true.

Re: Where the hell is Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook?

Robert Scoble — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:00:14 -0000

Christopher: I really hyped two things this year. 1. iPhone. 2. Facebook.

iPhone is outselling Windows Mobile. That sure hasn't slammed into the concrete.

Facebook is still seeing 200,000 new users a day. That's certainly a far cry from slamming into the concrete. At worst you could say about Facebook is that it's having a rough PR week. So what if some bloggers give Zuckerberg a rough time if they come out of the week with unending growth? Most people really don't care about this whole issue. Which probably explains why Zuckerberg hasn't come out of hiding.