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Unlike any other period in civilization - we are not totally dependant on brick and motar companies hiring or being at a specific location to start a business.
Ecommerce sites, affiliate programs and search engine marketing have never been easier.
Even seeking a job is relatively easy and cheaper with Craigslist and email. Gone are the days of open pre screening interview and faxing resumes.
Having said that you have given some really good tips.
Though not everyone can be artists or reporters and make a living out of it. So I guess sites like getafreelancer.com and elance.com should become much bigger and integrate many kinds of work done using the Internet.
It's happening already? Perhaps, there are a lot of freelancers and a few people making a living with their blogs and video-blogs, but how about a system that could integrate nearly any type of job and have it monetized to its maximum using the Internet.
I'm fortunate in that I'm now VERY close to retirement after 45 years in the industry so if I'm laid off this time it won't matter to me but I've lived though a number of these cycles and your advice is absolutely on the button. In recent years I've been working in a volatile industry, biotech, and have seen several cycles like this. All you say absolutely applies and I'll be handing out a link to your blog when the next round hits my friends and colleagues.
It also applies if you just want to change your job. I spent several months last trying to find a "better" job to end my career, something more meaningful. Your approach was pretty-well my approach too and even at 64 I was able to get several offers ... but sanity ( and family and friends "you are thinking of WHAT!") hit and I decided to stay where I was.
Good luck with your new job... and don't forget to update your blog's about to reflect it.
John
As always, great stuff!
John
I recommend somewhere a long way away from cubicles like here http://flickr.com/photos/19442561@N00/119647194/
1. Think about what you want to do next and come back ready to do an effective job search.
2. The job hunt may take a while and you won't get any vacation in your new job for a while.
3. The government probably won't pay you benefits when you are not actively seeking work.
Kyle
Any job hunter (or employee) is an entrepreneur in the business of selling time and skills to someone who can build value/make money from them. End of story. See it that way, learn to describe yourself that way, and it becomes less work for the hiring manager to figure out what to do with you and why you'd be a valuable hire.
Particularly in a rough economy, understand how you can help a company that's facing those realities. Pursue knowledge and skills that are particularly helpful in tough times. No matter how bad it gets, every company has money for things that will make them more money. See yourself that way.
You need to understand *and articulate* the audience-specific objectives for what you say/write/etc. Think about the person reading your cover letter/doing your interview. What do they want and need? How can you help them? Make sure they know this.
Most of all, take heart. Every layoff we've been through (4 and counting) has led to something wonderful eventually. Hang in there! http://pistachioconsulting.com/blog/?p=175
And remember, finding a job is a job in itself. But take time to hit the gym or take a walk; don't stress, something always comes along if you keep positive.
Great post.
There's an old populist view on economic downturns: A recession is when your neighbor loses his job. A depression is when you lose yours.
However, to be technical, a recession is a trailing indicator--it represents a downturn of GDP for two consecutive quarters. It does seem like we're entering a recession, but that won't be known for sure for at least another 3 to 6 months, at which time we may already be moving out of it.
As you talk to economists at the World Economic Forum, you can have them educate you on this, if you'd like.
I was laid off in 2002 also and took some time off before looking again. I probably did pay for it later. I'd view taking time off as a tradeoff. It's a great chance to do some other things - not just slack off - but it will cost you down the road.
I was burnt out from the startup I'd been working at when it folded and I'd already planned to spend a month or two remodelling my house. That all worked out but it probably meant I spent another two months building a network and finding a job.
I like the post & really like both #2 & #3.
Thx,
Catto
Writing resume for a headhunter for side money many years ago I discovered one critical job-finding tip: most resumes now are scanned and parsed by software in HR departments and only a small number of those get to hiring managers hands.
Tip? Increase your odds by placing your qualifying keywords (software experience, certifications, etc.) at the top of your resume where the scanning software will lift it and match it with any job keywords the employer has listed in the job notice.
It works. Because I'm a technical writer and people ask me, I've volunteer re-written resumes for many people over the years, from ex-White House guys to geeks just out of school.
When I've rewritten their resume to include keywords at the top where the scanning software can read it (and not buried on the second or third page)...they get interviews and then that converts to a job.
It's a simple, FREE step that brings big rewards. And ...oh...remember to smile.
massimo/italy
When you're relaxed and genuine, and somebody says, "what can I do to help you out?" you can say "well, you could give me a job..." in a way that *doesn't* sound like you're desperate for a job (although I'd recommend that approach only in certain situations.) That's actually how I got my first job blogging for someone other than myself. After awhile, enough people will know who you are and you may find calls coming to *you* before you ever think of picking up the phone.
This is a great and helpful post, but I don't think that it should be limited just to being laid off.
Sure, there are many elements that would be specific to that situation, but most of them are good advice to undertake now, before getting laid off to build your personal brand.
Thanks for the advice!
Kevin
In any case, companies are still hiring right now.
Your tips regarding being laid off are good ones especially #1 get out there now.
Additional tips; Find the right company for you first and then the job. Don't assume there is no job just because there is not one posted on the web site.
And next time, have a plan B in place by cultivating relationships with other opportunities prior to needing to move.
I have a friend that might get the ax, he called me the other day kinda down, and I needed ammo to cheer him up, just some kind of direction. Your list is excellent, and could at least be a glimmer of hope.
This time around is very similar. Luckily it is not a tech recession so there will be more tech jobs available!
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"You are ineligible for unemployment insurance on any day in which you perform any services in employment or self-employment regardless of whether you are paid for these services."
I got 4 leads, one offer, then eventually got a job through Facebook!
Paul
Very complete post. Most of your tips kept going back to networking. This is so basic and so important, but people often blow this off...they either think it is hard, or that it takes magic, or that networking is ONLY for when you need something (like a job).
The truth is that if you are not ALWAYS networking you are setting yourself up for failure. The time to network is not when you are looking for a job, but instead while you have a job and things are great. Networking is not about asking others to help you as much as it is you trying to find ways to help others. This is what builds real relationships. If you wait to try to make connections with people until you need something you look desparate.
People can take a variety of free online surveys that will show them their "networking quotient" to make them think about how they approach networking. It is not about the score you get on these tests, but instead to inspire someone to think about how and why they network.
This topic (networking) has been huge on all the blogs and social media sites in the last few weeks because of the gloom in the economy...but this is not something people should worry about now....it should be part of their lifestyle.
thom
The only point I'd add is I've never known anyone who has been laid off and didn't end up in a better situation.
Can you post your cover letter as an example?
Last time I got laid off, my small consulting job turned into the full-time job I have now.
In both cases I treated it as a positive and refreshing challenge and didn't take it personally (in the first case we were acquired and lost 30% headcount, in the second the company folded). I tried freelance for a while but am now back in a real company and loving it.
Wouldn't like to go through it again at this point in time (for various personal and financial reasons) but as long as you stay positive the results are positive.
My motivator - track the positives and learn from the negatives
You can then use the time this saves you in your online job search to do all the other things itemized so well in this post.
Also, consider job searching an exercise in numbers. Out of 100 resumes sent out, you get 10 interviews and from those 10 interviews you will get 1 offer. To improve the odds, stay busy. Get the 9 interviews out of the way fast.
At the end of the road, say when you're 85, you'll treasure the memories much more than the extra money you'll have made.
I don't think Yahoo is a good poster child for your headline though. Yahoo, and several other tech companies have their own unique problems with performance that have nothing to do with recession, but more too do with continued bad management.
If we are in fact at the beginning of a recession (which is still questionable) the factors driving it will be the housing bubble, and the fact that an upcoming potential change in leadership (as in 2000) gives a lot of people incentives to talk the economy down. So some of this recession will magically correct itself right after the November elections, other parts will take longer.
If we are in fact also experiencing a tech bubble-burst, it may in fact be a continuation of what happened in 2000 which is I think a VERY healthy shift away from everyone's desktop being treated as an independent "data-center". Businesses should be able to get by with far fewer "administrators" than they use today, and home users should not have to learn the details of how a PC operates in order to do ordinary tasks. Web (meaningless number) technology will continue to move toward big server farms that will support appliance-like devices at home (or in the office) that are cheap enough to be thrown away when they stop booting (failure to boot being a very rare event). It's fairly easy to see which companies are helping this process along versus companies that are fighting it all the way. Don't underestimate Wall Street's ability to pick the eventual winners and losers.
Tech is about optimism. Old media talks down the economy at election time. We shouldn't join in.
#50 - right on.
We are not in a recession regardless of what you hear on TV. The media (get this) is biased to present extreme versions of the truth (shocking!). They wouldn't be able to make much hay with the story of "US in Flat Growth Mode!". So they default to putting a bunch of talking heads on TV screaming about the recession we're in. Even though we're not.
Please step out of the echo chamber and acknowledge reality.
For now, in early 2008, there are a lot of folks that are seemingly "hoping" for a recession. Is thispolitically driven? I don't know but kinda seems like it. Oil prices are high, yes, and the housing market got shit hammered by the mortgage industry crisis...not great but hardly a recession. Yahoo is trying to impress shareholders and focus their efforts, fine, those folks will have no problem finding work. In Portland it is still hard to find solid, experienced high tech empployees in all areas. Office vacancy here is low, low, low and businesses are buying software products in all areas. Though I am no longer at Attensa the pipeline is impressive and bulging...No recession there or foreseen. All analysts agree it is ramping up, not down.
All of that said, your post has some great tips if someone finds themselves looking for work. Also, if one finds themself at "no business model web 2.0, bubble 2.0" kind of company - they SHOULD worry. There are a lot of those in the bay area and google/yahoo can't buy them all...
Oh, and the dollar sucks overseas. Wait until the American consumer starts getting hit with inflation that inevitably is coming. Oh no. 2. Is not oil still hanging around $100?
If our economy is so healthy why did the Fed give us a huge rate cut? Why is Bush trying to pass tax inventives to jump start the economy?
Yeah, all those guys listen to me. Bbbwwwaaahhhaaahhaaaa!
Recession is defined by 6 months or perhaps even 3 months of negative growth (aka a loss) in the GDP. We've not had a single month. So stocks are down. So Yahoo laid off a bunch of people. So the mortgage industry is in shambles. This does not mean we're in recession just because the weather is bad. The more you and FOX and NBC throw around this term, the more people get scared with their money. The more they feel like ALL aspects of the economy are going down the crapper. Then they don't spend money, they sell their stocks, they downsize a department in preparation. And then guess what... we really ARE in a recession. It's true that it would be very hard for media (both independent and large) to cause a recession... but they sure can fan the flame of hysteria.
Today, you are being part of the problem. dang.
Make you feel better?
We're not in a recession. We could get there though. Especially if everyone acts like it's inevitable and cries "uncle" as you say.
Just saying.
I have a degree and ten years of IT experience. The nearest big city is an 1 1/2 hours away, and with the price of gas over $3, I cannot afford to drive that far on a daily basis.
Anyone have any tips for areas that don't have a lot of IT jobs?
Everyday I look at the papers, job sites, government sites, etc. Nothing out there for me in this area. I cannot afford to move at this point in time.
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,652978,00.asp
That's the difference in the world today - people can hear it through you: five Nobel economists weighing in, and you're translating... which causes a discussion and more tips.
In our globally-interconnected world, we have a lot to learn from each other. Thank you for sparking the conversation, Robert. Here's to you.
Good luck with your future!
I'll just reiterate the importance of quantity over quality initially. You can be choosy once you have five different job offers.
Works for me ;-)
The Japanese property bubble was a long time unwinding - I came here in '94 thinking the worst was over lol.
I wonder if the US will 'snap' out of theirs a lot faster...
Anyway, here's George Soros in yesterday's FT.com with "The worst market crisis in 60 years".
Hedging his bets again?
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/24f73610-c91e-11dc-98...
regards
mark mcclure
tokyo
I think the message underlying that is to do your best to put your best foot forward when you network (or interview) -- being up-beat and positive about your skills and your future is key! (Though, admittedly, not always easy...)
Romanticization is fine if you work for Apple an evangelist, or you're like Robert, and literally hang out with industry luninaries all the time, but for most of us, it's actual drudgery.
There is nothing romatic about running ethernet for a living, working as a computer technician, or being in Internet security. I know, I've done all three.
Tech people cannot seem to let go of the last vestiges of when things were really good before the dotcom crash. I, too, miss the three-hour lunches, the foosball tables, and the high pay, but it's now down to brass tacks and just making a living.
What no one mentioned here is outsourcing/offshoring. In my area, where there are precious few tech jobs available, the rest are offshored to third-world hell holes to people who will work for less a year than illegal immigrants. I cannot afford to move to those areas where there are tech jobs in abundance, so I'm becoming frustrated with the system. It seems to me that American companies are more concerned with profits than with the people that help them earn those huge profits.
Fact is, it's hard to get a job in tech. I know. I hav ea degree and ten years of experience, but things are getting bad for techies unless you either know someone or you get lucky.
Day 1: Shock, no matter how prepared you were for it. Cut yourself some slack and do NOT burn any bridges.
Day 2: Mourning. You have friends you won't see everyday. People have called you, and they are sympathetic and sad. Don't be afraid to grieve the loss. Don't be surprised if you can't help it.
Day 3: It's showtime. Get organized. Lists of contacts and business cards. Doesn't matter how well you know them, whether they'll remember you, whether you're sure their information is current, or anything. This is a volume exercise. If you've got their card, you've met. If you've met, you owe it to them to provide updated contact information.
Day 4: Start sending emails. Break your contact list into logical groups. For me, it was simple; their were insurance carriers, vendors, and TPAs. Come up with a form email for each; I am no longer with xxx, I can now be reached at yyy, I can help you with zzz, and if I can ever be of assistance please give me a call or email. Start emailing alphabetically.
Day 5: If you spent all day yesterday emailing people, chances are you heard from somebody... start a conversation. Ask them if they know anyone who's looking for somebody. At this point, you're pretty much on your own; things will take on a life of their own at this point. Some people will ask for a resume. Others will offer to be a reference. Others will recommend a recruiter or two. Still others will offer to make an introduction to someone else. Say yes to everybody, and say thank you to everybody.
Above all, until you receive and accept an offer, do not stop looking. You must have no guilt right now about your open-mindedness. Until somebody signs on the dotted line, you're a free agent.
...and for what it's worth, I'm not convinced we're entering a recession. I think we may be entering a period of slower growth, but I think those who believe that the sky is falling are going to look pretty silly in a year or so. And this is coming from a guy who's just coming off being unemployed for three months! So for crying out loud, keep your chins up, everybody!
Since I wrote those posts, I've had many occasions to point other friends to this advice, and folks have told me that the series is a useful starting point.
The main, main, main thing, from my perspective, is to fight cynicism. I start the series by saying "It's not over until you win." I believe that having that attitude is as important as anything else you can do when you've lost your job.
Colin Joss
East Lothian, Haddington
United Kingdom
Great advice. I learned something new. Always a good thing.
Something I think may be a problem with me is that I've had six jobs in eith years. Granted, this is/was somewhat normal with tech jobs. The area in which I now live is somewhat different in how they look at things. Most people here stay at the same job for years. Even the service sector jobs here are that way. I've noticed quite a few people here at my local Wal-Mart that have 20-Year service stickers on the name tags. I couldn't imagine staying with one job for that long a time. Perhaps it's because I'm a techie. Anyone have an idea on how I could cope with the potential questions I may get? I often think I receive no responses to my emails because my resume has so many jobs in a short amount of time. Makes me wish I would have gotten my degree in Astrophysics or something where I could have a cushy university or research job with tenure and one that cannot be sent offshore.
oops!
Those of you with the luck of the draw will consider yourselves to be better than the rest.
The housing bubble and the coming tech employment bubble are just a cycle of supply and demand.
The next 5 years, demand will continue to drop.
The best advice is to put 30% into savings each year when your working, keep applying for work, realize that any company will lay off a tech in a heartbeat.
More important, what will you do when the tech market is so over supplied that your best salary will be half or a third of what it is now?
Years ago, I worked in electronics for top dollar. As it became automated, I had to adapt.
You think that your tech job can't become automated?
Every company that sells technology is promising your CEO that it takes less people to install and maintain. That is the way it works.
I am enjoying my programming and DB work while it last. But, 2008 ain't nothing like it was back in 1999.
And 1999 was nothing like it was back in 1973.
My 2 cents; product companies are a better bet than services companies in such situations.
Try to have an alternate source of income before the recession hits you, there are so many ways to make money right now.
What a helpful advice that I hope one will never need .
We all know that statement most likely will not come true.
Sooner or later the loss of job will occur and it is never welcome.
I am not in tech but I sure do use it . I saw the value many many years ago.
I am in my 3rd career and soon to move to a 4th . Each one has been
I very big change . Military , Food retail, for the past 22yrs real estate
and next the 4th managing our IRA acct.
In real estate I consider myself out of work after I close a home or should lose the listing. So laid off to me occurs often . I am always looking for work and now with this current r/e market. One must reinvent how to help buyers and sellers get through this awful mess. I have never been an order taker .I have always worked hard to get to closing. Focus on service and not your self, pay it forward and remember nothing is easy--- work is work !
Thanks for all of you and your posts of helpful advise. Just think we may have assisted someone that got the new job !!!!! What joy that would be to them and their family !!!!!!!
Dave Bigos
There is a non-profit job support and networking group in the Phoenix Arizona area that people in Arizona should be aware of. Some of their resources are also useful to job seekers anywhere. Meetings are held twice a month and the mailing list is quite useful for current job openings and other job related information.
http://www.scottsdalejobnet.com/
Scottsdale Job Network (SJN) is a non-profit community group of business leaders and volunteers. SJN provides education in the job search process and all attendees have the opportunity to meet and work with people who offer support and guidance during employment transition. We are not a job placement forum, and we do not match candidates to openings nor do we send resumes to employers or recruiters. There is no guarantee of employment either directly through this group or as a result of association with SJN.
The value of SJN lies in the skills, business networks and personal passions of our members. Membership is open to everyone willing to share their skills and anyone interested in local networking or in need of employment transition support.
Scottsdale Job Network
Good luck on finding a new job to everybody who sadly has just being laid off.
Cheers,
Thomas
I'm going to be writing a practical "what to do" if you get laid off but in the mean time, check out Six Steps…to a Recession-proof Career, Six Steps…to Financially Surviving a Recession, and this from Slackermanager.
I think however that these are things that you should do regardless of whether you're laid off or not. :)
Cheers,
SML
What is even weirder and cooler is that it is also with NEC!
Rock on!
Brent
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Ramon Greenwood
In these times of economic turmoil anyone can get the axe at any time. It happens to good people and bad ones...hard workers as well as slackers.
"We feel you would be happier working for another company."
"Sorry, business is falling off. We no longer need your services."
"Operations are being consolidated in Mexico. The Bedrock Plant will be closed March 1."
Sugar-coated or not, the message is the same: You're fired! You are out of a job! Your career path has been disrupted!
Therefore, your career plan should include knowing what to do to survive and reach your career goals should you ever get the dreaded "pink slip".
13 Career Tips To Survive and Prosper
1. Keep in mind that in the current environment the idea of womb to tomb job security is as dead as a hammer. Be loyal to your present employer, but never develop a romance with the organization. Know that the relationship can end at any time. There is enough suffering in store for anyone over the loss of a job without adding the pains of an unrequited love. Look out for yourself first.
2. Be alert and well informed at all times about the outlook for your employer and your job. If you know things are going down the drain, begin a below-the-radar search for other opportunities. If the axe falls, you'll have a head start on finding another job.
3. Stay prepared financially. Always try to have enough cash in reserve to cover at least three months living expenses.
4. Keep your skills up to date with the needs of the job market. Capitalize on opportunities for additional training. Read the literature of your field.
5. Maintain an up-to-date record of your accomplishments so you can produce a resume in 24 hours.
6. Nurture contacts with people in your line of work and with those likely to employ your type of qualifications. Be visible through outside activities and positive publicity.
7. Help others who lose their jobs. Also, be of assistance to those who are looking to recruit employees. They may help you some day.
8. Understand your emotions.
Psychologist Bill Weber says getting fired is very much like dealing with the death of a loved one.
"The first reaction is denial, or wishful thinking. There's been a mistake. This can't be true," Dr. Weber says. "Then the shock sets in, followed by anger, depression, frustration and fear. Worst of all is the loss of self-esteem."
9. Let it go. Allow some time for grieving, but not too much. Don't just sit there feeling sorry for yourself. It's natural to be angry with your employer, but don't let your feelings show. You still need him. Negotiate the best possible severance package possible for continuing pay and benefits, particularly insurance coverage. Don't forget good references, too.
10. Start immediately to launch your search for another, better job. Use this time to reassess the goals you have set for the rest of your life. Define the job that will enable you to achieve these objectives.
11. Prepare a plan to market yourself. Let it be known you are available; "advertise" what you have to offer. Involve your network of friends and family in the job search.
12. Be patient. Recognize it will take time to find another acceptable position.
13. Don't panic. If you possibly can afford to wait, don't jump on the first opportunity that comes down the pike, unless, of course, it really matches up with your objectives.
Career advice: remember two things.
1. It can happen to anyone.
2. A high percentage of people end up with better jobs than the ones from which they were fired.
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To subscribe to Ramon Greenwood's free semi-monthly newsletter and blog please go to http://www.commonsenseatwork.com> His advice comes from a world of experience, including serving as Senior Vice President of American Express, an entrepreneur, professional director, career coach and author.
Most job seekers today still use old school strategies that worked when resumes were made of paper. In today's Web 2.0 world, there are so many ways to give yourself an unfair advantage in the job seeking world, and you mention a few.
I disagree with one tip #8...because cover letters are dead. Check out my podcast interview with
I've got one point of disagreement with you Robert....cover letters that you mention in tip #8. Cover letters are the dinosaur of today's job search. Cover letters are dead, a waste of time, and can actually be detrimental to your resume.
Web 2.0 tip: Customize your resume, not your cover letter! Check out my interview with Chris Russell here (http://recareered.blogspot.com/2008/02/ugly-job...) and see why cover letters are dead (hint...resume databases strip the cover letter off, and don't search them).
For more ways to get an unfair advantage in your job search, Job Search 2.0 techniques, and Resume Search Optimization tips, check out www.reCareered.blogspot.com.
If you'd like a free resume review, or for help or coaching to get an unfair advantage in your own job search, go to www.reCareered.com.
Phil Rosenberg
President, reCareered & Rainmakers Global
Phone: 773-831-4628
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Keep up the good work pal !
Make a brief summary of that project you worked on last month. You might not remember the details a year from now.
Borrow from family, friends, seek charity, churches etc, don't take from me.
Re: Gov't assistance
I've been paying taxes in one of the top ten taxed states for the last 25 years. I was laid off on 3/11--absolutely no fault of my own, I was the top performer in 2007. I did apply for "unemployment insurance," and it will help me stay in my house, feed my family and keep up with life/health insurance. It's a supplement to the emergency fund. I have no qualms about using it, nor do I have problems with others who are legitimately in the same position I am...
Good things to you all.
As a self-employed in the last 4 years, I still remember what it means losing a job. It is terrible if you can't earn and you need money NOW.
In short, you can learn how to make a few balloon animals. It will be easier to meet people.
If you're looking for work as a developer or other applications skill set, please reach out to me. I focus in Greenville, SC and Charleston, SC. Right now I am primarily looking for Java developers. You can reach me at mstoneki@teksystems.com.
Thanks,
MSS
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I call it "starting work before you're hired." It's one thing to claim you're a whiz at this or that, but it's quite another -- and sets you instantly apart from the hordes of ordinary job seekers -- to prove your skills by demonstrating them on your blog, in a YouTube video or in something you FedEx to hiring managers.
Kevin Donlin
www.TheSimpleJobSearch.com
As part of my therapy, I created this video. I have a little extra time lately.
Dedicated to the more than one million who lost their jobs in 2008
http://vimeo.com/2336731
Either way, thanks for the tips, they're great. I'll definitely be using them while I'm on the hunt for my next position.
-Melissa
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