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Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

Dazmi — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:22:36 -0000

That's just the Beta version

I have the home premium and it can be turned off & changed

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

Edward — Fri, 02 Feb 2007 11:10:53 -0000

windows is rubbish anyway

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

JQ Poke — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:54:41 -0000

If only I was so lucky to be one to post a complaint 'bout this - oh yeah I am.... Windows Vista doesn't even recognize my on-bored (Pun intented) audio device . On sug's on driver sites?

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

James — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:15:29 -0000

Hmm, that's funny. I don't have an AudioGroup in there.

And stop saying to turn off speakers. Duh, we have them on to play other sounds, that's why we turn them on. Some people use computers to play media files, and games. You think?

It's the annoying, LOUD, same sound every time you just boot the thing, and it's getting on our nerves. Yea, wait till it's booted to turn them on, DUH. But it is a bug that we can't turn it off and needs to be fixed. PERIOD.

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

Tony W — Wed, 27 Sep 2006 08:50:47 -0000

Think yourselves lucky My motherboard sound card will not work so I have no sound! got bits to work by changing the compatibility of setup.exe to XP SP2 and then the same for the EXE once installed but the ADI codec did not install. ASUS has no Vista drivers not even beta's. The whole exersize was to check out an application I have written that uses speech output for the visually impaired. Same with my TV card no drivers although Microsoft did detect and update the Video & sound capture drivers.

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

CKirocZ — Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:15:32 -0000

Open registry editor and go to
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\ServiceGroupOrder]
Look for “AudioGroup”, move it to the bottom of the list, now the startup sound can’t play because the “Windows Audio Service” doesn’t start until all the other services have started!
This works great for me so far.
Don’t forget to export and save this key before changing it!!!!

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

scott — Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:32:55 -0000

I have a laptop. Sometimes I don't want it to make a lot of noise.

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

mark — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:55:12 -0000

It's amazing how many of these testers haven't read the previous post on this blog about the "spiritual marketing" start up sound. Yeah, it's for real and they want to make it permanent. And for some of us, it may just be the last straw.

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

Michael Markman (Mickeleh) — Sat, 26 Aug 2006 12:04:43 -0000

What's the big deal? It's not like Vista will ever crash or anything and force you to reboot. You'll only hear the sound once in your lifetime.

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

antny — Fri, 25 Aug 2006 08:23:51 -0000

My sound doesn't even work in Vista (creative live! 5.1) so i don't get to hear any sounds! seems like a good thing from the articles description..

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

met — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:02:36 -0000

Whats the update? :)

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

Nicole Simon (Berlin, Germany) — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:08:20 -0000

Actually, such annoyances like this ARE a reason not to run the system and or annoy you each time you start the system.

And I bet the market for replacement UIs will come very very soon.

Hell, we even got somebody to do a way for the tablet enhancements of MS to work on non US versions via patching executables.

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

Naim Slim — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:03:17 -0000

Has all sense of common-sense vanished? Or were people's speakers manufactured without a power button?

Seriously though, we shouldn't expect perfect quality in a beta product. Besides, anyone remember this?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

Karim — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:08:20 -0000

First people bitch if the audio doesn't work, then they bitch if you can't turn it off. You people, honestly. [author stands arms akimbo]

If it turns out you can't turn off the boot splash sound, I'm guessing it's because they plan to also plan to sell "Micro-Soft Earplugs." ;-)

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

Jason Cox — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:31:36 -0000

Scoble, the first startup sound played on after the boot-splash will be a different sound then what is played when you finally login to Windows once we get the full Vista audio integrated into the betas.

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

BlogReader — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:22:23 -0000

We currently have Windows 2000 PCs running in very sensitive care environments that need constant reboots

Hope those machines aren't providing any life sustaining services.

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

Olivier — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:00:11 -0000

There exists a way to prevent the OS to play the startup or logoff sound: switch off your speakers...
But honestly, event if MS suppresses this option, I guess somebody will quickly find the registry key allowing to tweak it.

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

Nancy — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:40:04 -0000

Re: quibble as to whether the start up sound is worthy of mention. It is, IMHO, because it is emblematic of Microsoft's glaring disregard of the _simplest_ user interface rules. It's important because if they cannot possibly get _this_ right, how can I possibly believe they've learned _any_ lessons?

Also, keep in mind they've had to exert effort to change the functionality, if only in the functional design.

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

Chris — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:40:00 -0000

I really hope this isn't true. If it is, we'll never deploy Windows Vista in a clinical environment or care setting. We currently have Windows 2000 PCs running in very sensitive care environments that need constant reboots -- if the system is forcing the startup sound to play, regardless of other settings, that could be very disruptive to a care environment without us have to take unnecessary steps to mitigate the noise. Microsoft, _think_ about your users not yourselves!

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

Carolus.Holman — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:31:58 -0000

I think of Windows Vista, like WindowsME a crummy OS flanked by two better ones. I think I will wait for a few more years.

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

Herbert N Swearengen III — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:30:53 -0000

It's not possible to turn off this sound by deleting a wav file. In fact, you can delete every last wav file on your hard drive and this sound will still play.

In order to turn off the sound it's necessary to hack (modify) a system file (authui.dll) by removing an audio resource using a special tool. Security permissions must also be changed to allow this modification.

This information is only valid for the currently released beta build (5472).

Please don't try modifying this, or any system file, on any computer that contains valuable data. This information is supplied without warranty of any kind.

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

Rus — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:50:03 -0000

The Windows startup sound has changed with virtually every release of Windows - this hardly makes it a trademark of Windows, unlike the Windows Flag (which, I notice, glows in the centre of the screen *every* time I start Windows).
The sound most people associate with Windows is probably the '95 startup sound :D

Therefore I can't see any benefit of forcing the sound to play. I will be very annoyed if it plays when the computer is muted though.

For those who want to turn it off, though - can we not just delete /rename/replace the appropriate WAV file??

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:46:11 -0000

Par for the course.

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:00:04 -0000

I don't get it. Why force the sound?

Re: Vista beta testers mad about forced startup sound

Tomi Itkonen — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:11:06 -0000

Does MS really run their beta testers' feedback through a Scobleizer distortion DSP effect unit?

Sorry, could not resist. Take care.