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Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

Brandon Paddock — Tue, 14 Feb 2006 03:02:13 -0000

And I NEVER said the PS3 would "fail." I have no idea how the PS3 will do.

But all indications are that it will be very expensive. There's a lot riding on their launch line-up, and their timing. But if they're charging over $500 for the thing, I don't see it doing well. Not in the US. Not when the 360 is available with more features and more power at a lower price.

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

Brandon Paddock — Tue, 14 Feb 2006 02:59:50 -0000

Chris - there are publicly available Vista releases (the CTPs) that run on these systems WITH GLASS. Or run on much older systems without it.

So what the hell are you getting at? You think we're lying about something that you could just as easily verify yourself?

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

John C. Welch — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 07:30:11 -0000

Oh definitely Chris. Still waiting for tech docs on WPF/E other than saying "Yeah, you'll be able to use it one day"

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

Christopher Coulter — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 06:17:58 -0000

You know, nothings gold until release, "Mr.-PS3-will cost-twice-as-much-and-fail". I don't care what they say, and I don't care (nor trust) what you say. Until it's on the open-market, and had some real world vetting, it's all pure speculation. They hype one extreme, you hype the other. It's pointless. Talk after you get that 'Spruce Goose' to actually fly.

End Prog.

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

Brandon Paddock — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 03:40:36 -0000

What on earth are you talking about?

There are two points being made. One by Scoble, and one by me.

1) Slashdot posted disinformation as "news" - and so far has not posted a correction. However, they seem to do this daily so I'm not really surprised. As someone said above, Slashdot is basically a blog. It's written by the submitters (most of whom have no authority what-so-ever) and edited/filtered by some extremely biased moderators.

2) The article they linked to is also incorrect. Most integrated chipsets you buy today can run the DWM (Aero Glass) just fine. My Vista machines at work are 6+ months old, with integrated chipsets, and they run Glass perfectly well.

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

Christopher Coulter — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 02:28:54 -0000

Gee really? Touchy touchy. The context clearly meant 'the whole kit' And a modded +5 post "corrected" the strain-a-gnat glitch, seconds after. And the headline was, "One In Two PCs Won't Run Vista's INTERFACE." Not won't run Vista itself.

Paraphrased sum-up from a linked article...meaning obvious from context.

Tracing. Back. Original. Sources. [and] Not. Jumping. To. Conclusions. And. Not. Going. Off. Half-Cocked. Useful skills.

Now if you want to start parsing down things that narrow, beating chests loudly, then first deal with thy own wooden plank, before you whine about the dust in Slashdot eyes.

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

Scott Kindorf — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:38:08 -0000

What people need to understand about Slashdot is that, firstly, it' is supported in a round-about way by OSDN (Open Source Developer Network) - which is decidedly anti-Microsoft. I've been a poster there for nearly 5 years now and have repeatedly corrected posts and topics related to Microsoft and Microsoft software, but there's a catch; If the readers-nee-contributors that have "mod points" decide that you're pro-Microsoft they will mod-point you down to the point that you can only post 1 comment per day (otherwise known in a cute way as "Negative Karma - and mine is pretty bad at this point) - it's a underhanded way for them to squelch and censor people whom post corrections or comments that are attempts to correct the dis-information spread on Slashdot. Remember, Slashdot is just more than an overblown blog - nothing more.

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

Brandon Paddock — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:03:39 -0000

Chris -

"they won’t be able to handle Vista’s 3D ‘Aero Glass’ compositor, which will prevent roughly half of all PCs from running Microsoft’s new OS."

was added by the person who submitted it to Slashdot, and approved by their mods.

Reading Comprehension. Useful skill.

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

scobleizer — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:09:30 -0000

Christopher and Jon: WRONG. Slashdot CHANGED what the original article said. The original article did NOT say that those PCs that couldn't run Glass wouldn't be able to run Vista at all, yet that's what the Slashdot blurb made it sound like.

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

Brian — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 09:30:30 -0000

Apologize to Slashdot? That's hilarious.

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

Christopher Coulter — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 04:44:20 -0000

Yeah, I was about to say, Slashdot just doing the pointer. Blame ExtremeTech Staff, who are themselves just pointing to a report from Jon Peddie Research.

Or are you gonna blame Slashdot for mere linking...?

A misrepresentation of facts, about a supposed misrepresentation of facts, that was in fact just a pointer. The irony is killer. Blame Jon Peddie Research, so then you gonna apologize to Slashdot then?

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

Jon — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 04:16:31 -0000

That information is coming from the extremetech site. Not slashdot.

Good job misrepresenting the facts yourself Scoble.

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

Tetra — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 00:37:53 -0000

Well, within context, they obviously mean running Vista in all its glory.

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

BenB — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:54:30 -0000

Ugh, I meant Brandon....

So you can cofirm that the Intel 950 graphics support glass? Such as those found on the new Toshiba M400?

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

BenB — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:53:39 -0000

Brian,

So you can cofirm that the Intel 950 graphics support glass? Such as those found on the new Toshiba M400?

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

Brian — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:23:52 -0000

I love all the drive by snark from "anon". More please.

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

Brandon Paddock — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:39:12 -0000

Also, the M200 is perfectly capable of running Glass. It has a Geforce FX 5200 with 32MB of RAM. A Geforce FX or later is all you need for Glass (needs to support DX9).

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

Brandon Paddock — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:37:35 -0000

I have 2 machines at work that are running Vista WITH GLASS on ATI integrated video chipsets (on-board ATI PCI-Express chips), and one that runs WITH GLASS on an integrated Intel video chipset.

So what are they smoking?

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

anon — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:44:05 -0000

It's amazing that Microsoft shills complain about misinformation while their own convicted monopolist felon employer runs an anti-Linux "Get the Facts" site full of Martin Taylor's - a Microsoft employee - fabrications and misrepresentation.

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

not billg — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:43:28 -0000

Slashdot trades on the thin distinction between something they stand behind and something a contributor says. Hence, those all-important quotes around the pertinent parts. It might be a lie, they'd say, but we didn't say it. We only published it.

Isn't it interesting that they get way with that only because they publish online, not on paper? Could your morning newspaper survive doing the same thing?

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

scobleizer — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:50:50 -0000

Mujibur: the NeXT story came from Dan'l Lewin, who was a co-founder of NeXT. He watched as I typed that post. It has been corrected by many other people involved, but if Dan'l's recollection is what it was who am I to argue with it? I'm not a co-founder of NeXT.

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

BenB — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:19:55 -0000

Btw, I should have added, the Intel spec can be found here:

http://www.intel.com/produc...

Also stating Windows Vista ready spec here:
http://www.intel.com/busine...

Finally note this on the Vista page:
The Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950 on both the Intel® 945G and Mobile Intel® 945GM Express Chipsets will support the Windows Vista Display Driver model (WDDM) drivers.

As for Nvidia and Ati, they have similar pages which I will not bother posting since Intel has had the worst support for Vista.

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

BenB — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:12:36 -0000

My understanding is that while this is true for past integrated graphics.. the Intel 950 series of ig will work fine as it has LDDM drivers available is is considered Vista Ready. That also applies to Nvidia LDDM and ATI graphics. If I am wrong on this - I would like to know? That said, games of almost any type will not play real well, if at all... for example 11 fps. Basically anything with shared memory is not going to be a gaming machine, but if it is Vista ready with LDDM, then it is glass ready.

-bb

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

ceejayoz — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:04:17 -0000

One thing's nearly certain - you won't find Slashdot issuing a correction or retraction. Flame wars mean page impressions mean profits. I've no doubt the editors take the most intentionally inflammatory version of a writeup on any given linked article.

Re: Surprise: Slashdot misrepresents facts

Mujibur — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 15:55:34 -0000

Scoble,

I agree slashdot should fix the story. That having been said, you still haven't corrected the NeXT story you posted ages ago. You claim you are right but have never explained why.