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Re: Steal my content, please!

Jesse — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:03:23 -0000

It's all fun and games until a competitor steals one of your images and uses it on their delivery truck:

http://projects.jesseheap.c...

Re: Steal my content, please!

Robert Scoble — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 03:55:53 -0000

LookingForFreebies: I've tried to change my Flickr, and it won't do it for some reason. Also, there's no setting for "PublicDomain."

As for my blog here, I own the copyright and this post gives it away. Any lawyer worth his salt will be able to block me with this post from collecting anything on my copyright.

Re: Steal my content, please!

LookingForFreebies — Tue, 25 Dec 2007 17:50:28 -0000

It is Christmas day and you still have have a copyright notice on your blog and flickr stream.

What happened to the hippie dippy feelings of giving away your content?

Re: Steal my content, please!

StMarc — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:55:43 -0000

Photography is Lane's career, because if she doesn't sell photos, she doesn't *eat.*

When making money with your photography is what stands between you and living under a bridge, you can talk about your photography "career" and how you have any right whatsoever to have your opinion taken seriously. (You always have the right to speak, but that right does not inherently include the right to be listened to.)

Until then, go preach to the converted and stop trying to sound like you know what you're talking about.

Re: Steal my content, please!

Paul Jacobson — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:29:56 -0000

Hey Robert

You are on the money with a Creative Commons license and we would be more than happy to chat to you about applying a Creative Commons license to your content. The new CC+ and CC0 protocols are really interesting extensions to CC licenses which open up some really interesting possibilities on both sides of the commercial fence.

It would be fantastic to see your content released under a CC license because it could be a case study on how to contribute meaningfully to the community and still make for a sustainable business.

Re: Steal my content, please!

ellen — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:28:23 -0000

That is soooo excellent, your post. I believe every word you say. I am an artist and I have recently asked two people for their permission to use their photos so that I could paint them. One was an Italian professional photographer and another just a normal guy on flickr. They both were very pleased to have me ask them and that surprised mevery much. The italian guy said that he should be thanking me and that he thought that the idea that a person in italy could shoot a photo that a person in Ireland would turn into a painting was amazing. Both asked to see the finished product and of course I will credit them. Excellent post as I was just reading an article in Vanity Fair about Prince. Clever and daring guy.

Re: Steal my content, please!

Robert Alamo — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:32:39 -0000

I notice that Richter Scales sell mp3 songs. I think Lane should ste--...fair use their mp3 songs and add her photos to them. And upload them to Youtube. I wonder how they would like them apples.

or, would it be okay for me to take their "music" and make a funny video of my friends?

hypocite = sin.

Re: Steal my content, please!

Sal — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:00:49 -0000

One of the air-headed ramblings by a dilettante I've read on the subject so far.

Or perhaps not, I hear the Toyota dealership down the street is giving away Camrys because magical things are happening over at corporate.

I could be naive, though. The author (and his landlord, phone company, bank, hospitals, etc.) may traffic purely in "attention," thus removing the need for money altogether.

Re: Steal my content, please!

Bruce DeBoer — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:17:29 -0000

Here, let me help you out. Start by reading this:

http://fairuse.stanford.edu...

Re: Steal my content, please!

Bruce DeBoer — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:04:32 -0000

Scoble -

You need to educate yourself; you are clearly showing your ignorance of your new profession: photography. Business isn't "magic". If you produce a product you don't give it away for free and expect to earn a living from it. [see Hollywood writer's strike) Remember the '90's internet "burn rate" for investment dollars? It seems you're a little late on the learning curve.

Please educate yourself on our copyright laws, the reasons it was created, it's importance to the lively hood of those it protects and why, if it's not upheld, our society would be damaged.

Re: Steal my content, please!

John Goldsmith — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:35:43 -0000

Strange. I came back to see if you removed your "© Copyright 2007
Robert Scoble" from the sidebar and from your photos on Flickr. It's beginning to look like this post was just a plea for attention. Or am I wrong?

Re: Steal my content, please!

Tom — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:21:44 -0000

@Joe Caruso

"In music you have the “Weekend Warriors” who will work for next-to-nothing and like it. Would other “Professionals” do that ?"

Where there's muck there's brass. Usually fun jobs don't pay as well as un-fun jobs, for good reason.

(http://www.joelonsoftware.c...

Re: Steal my content, please!

Tom — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:15:05 -0000

@Jim Goldstein:

"One thing would have been certain if the Richter Scales had approached Lane for permission is that one artist would have been paid."

That is definitely NOT certain... the Richter Scales most likely would have found one of many other photos who's photographer didn't have a stick up her ass...

Re: Steal my content, please!

CreativeWorkout — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:16:47 -0000

(I stole this article.)

Re: Steal my content, please!

CreativeWorkout — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:14:01 -0000

Mr. Scoble,

I just stole your content.

And improved it.

And improved its comments.

Feel free to build upon my contribution.

You're welcome,

Jonathon

Re: Steal my content, please!

madame l. — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:00:46 -0000

So, it's ok that I used your beautiful photo of that lobster roll for my holiday greeting cards? Rock on dude!
I am waiting for the day you make one post that does not mention money or food.

The idea that the word "art" is even uttered on your blog is hilarious. explain why my photo of Ronald Reagan is hanging in Silicon Valley’s Republican Headquarters... OMGZWTFBBQLOLicopter!!! you never fail to amaze and dazzle.

Re: Steal my content, please!

Shannon — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:33:07 -0000

I'm not sure about this. I've had my content on all of my blogs stolen time and again and nothing magical has happened to me. I did give up on trying to hunt every person down that takes my stuff without proper attribution--so I guess in a way I indirectly am allowing the stealing now. It's just getting too vast to deal with.

However, I agree with what others have been saying, people take posts from my blogs and make money off of them. I'm a mom with 4 little mouthes to feed and I find it obnoxious that something I put time and energy into is putting green in someone's pocket and it's not mine.

I respect you a lot Robert, so I'll cross my fingers that something magical happens to me soon.

Re: Steal my content, please!

Robert Scoble — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:00:51 -0000

acidmine: you're so funny. So explain the check I got from San Francisco Magazine. Or, explain why my photo of Ronald Reagan is hanging in Silicon Valley's Republican Headquarters.

Re: Steal my content, please!

acidmine — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:48:51 -0000

Based on your flickrfolio, it looks like "free" is the only way people will use your photos.

Re: Steal my content, please!

Robert Scoble — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:55:52 -0000

Ryan, wait a second here. That's not up to me, that's up to Wiley (they own the copyright on that work, not me). But, let's go over the facts, shall we? We put it up on the Web for free. So, you could read the entire book for free, if you wanted. Why, then, have we sold tens of thousands of copies and outsold all other corporate blogging books combined?

Also, you might talk to Cory Doctorow. His books are free and, yet, his books are best sellers.

Weird how this "stealing" thing works.

Re: Steal my content, please!

Ryan — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:03:11 -0000

I'm with Lane. Thank you, Scoble, for giving us all permission to steal your book.

Re: Steal my content, please!

Ben — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:32:01 -0000

Robert, I'm sure SF Mag will be happy to know they won't have to pay for your photos in the future.

I find the negative attitude towards this disturbing. Is it so strange that a content creator ask for their work to not be used without permission? If you want to give it away, fine. CC is good for that. But don't dismiss someone because they choose to do something different for their own reasons.

Re: Steal my content, please!

Brad Trent — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:30:42 -0000

Wow...you've spent more than $5,000 on equipment on your hobby, oh, I'm sorry, your "photographic career", and through all the knowledge you've gained with that 5K purchase you think it's just groovy to have anybody come by and steal your work! Sonny, do you have any idea how Goddamned stupid you sound?!! It's completely boneheaded thinking like this that makes the day-to-day lives of REAL professional photographers so challenging. And just in case you were wondering, I don't want your photos adding to "the human experience" if it makes it even the tiniest bit harder for me to convince a client to pay a fair usage fee for one of my images!

Re: Steal my content, please!

Angell — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:10:11 -0000

Actually Robert. Now that you have mentioned "I WANT YOU to steal my content." is it ok if I buy a copy of your book, scan it in, OCR it and make it available on Usenet and as a torrent via PirateBay.

I mean, I just wanted to check before I do that, as I would hate to spend all the time it would involve only to have a lawsuit land on my desk. I mean, I will leave in the title page thats says you wrote it...

Also is Shel ok with this?

Unless you want to beat me to it and offer the book as a free downloadable PDF - ala Radiohead...

Re: Steal my content, please!

Angell — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:55:06 -0000

There has been some speculation over how the image was found in the first place. A day or so ago, I typed "Owen Thomas" into Google Images and lo and behold, I got the aforementioned photograph.

What's interesting is that Lane (the photographer) is credited at the top and at the bottom of the article as the photographer (it says "Continue reading for more photos from the party by Lane Hartwell." and "All photos by Lane Hartwell.") and very her name is hyperlinked in both cases to her website. On the front page of her website at the bottom is a link to her email address. Her email is just as easy to find as the photograph.

From viewing that picture, in just TWO mouse clicks I could be typing an email to ask permission to use that photograph in my upcoming music video parody...

It's theft AND it's lazy too! Maybe the real bubble that's bursting is people ability to give a damm about other peoples rights and feelings. Richter Scales are quite clearly in the wrong and no amount of "oh but it's on the internet so it's ok really" talk will change that fact.

Finally, I really don't want this to come across as a personal dig, but having actually looked at your photostream, I would posit that you sold a couple of photos in that situation more because you are Robert Scoble, than the fact that they are good photographs. You undervalue the weight of your name.