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Re: Overwhelmed with pitches, Dave, say it isn’t so!

vatancomputer — Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:49:49 -0000

Media outlets are overwhelmed with pitches and news release and, as we know, they respond to only a handful of them. Sending a breaking news release to the media and expecting to go from being a complete stranger to being a trusted source with one email or phone call is ridiculous. You’ll usually make multiple attempts to contact your reporter and pitch the story.

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NineThreeNine — Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:02:24 -0000

Seems like after a point blogging is more hassle than it should be...

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Clyde Smith — Sun, 19 Mar 2006 02:36:38 -0000

I haven't followed you long enough to understand why you and Winer are so strongly linked in people's minds. I've said some nasty things about him, but you're a really interesting guy and I appreciate getting a little glimpse at just how smart Microsoft folks can be, even though I despise Microsoft.

Your honesty and openness help cut through a lot of the nonsense, including making you responsible for everything that Microsoft has done wrong.

Hang in there.

Re: Overwhelmed with pitches, Dave, say it isn’t so!

Tom Raftery — Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:43:11 -0000

the point is you get what you pay for

Dmad I understand that. My point is that for the same price (free) I get a whole lot more from Hotmail's competitors (Gmail and Yahoo!).

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Richard Grayson — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:33:11 -0000

I think your life would be easier and better if you didn't let people like me make comments like these.

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Lee White — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:08:54 -0000

The irony of pitches is that they miss the whole point of the social web. Power is now in the hands of the information seeker (or at least is heading that way) not the information provider. Pitches are just old school "push" marketing. Maybe some day they will get the joke.

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Dmad — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:48:03 -0000

@66. But, again, the point is you get what you pay for. Gmail chooses to offer those services for free. Hey! How about that! Good for them! Hotmail does not. When you aren't paying for something the level of service you get is what it is. Where your expectations set going in that Hotmail would not delete your mails if you didn't use the service for 30 days? Did they say "for no money this is the level of service you get?"? When you signed up for Hotmail did they say you get POP for free? What you expected to get for free is not necessarily what the provider chooses to offer for free. Until you start paying there is little reason to complain.

Re: Overwhelmed with pitches, Dave, say it isn’t so!

Tom Raftery — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:14:27 -0000

As far as hotmail goes.. well, you get what you pay for.

Dmad, Gmail is free also and they don't have this policy. Furthermore, they allow POP access which means my mail client logs in to my Gmail account every 30 minutes, so even if Gmail did decide to institute such a ridiculous policy, I wouldn't fall foul of it.

Re: Overwhelmed with pitches, Dave, say it isn’t so!

Dmad — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:30:53 -0000

Scoble. if you do decided to follow Winer's lead, I suggest checking into the Betty Ford Clinic first. Going cold turkey is usually not successful.

Re: Overwhelmed with pitches, Dave, say it isn’t so!

scobleizer — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:39:11 -0000

Tom, I forwarded this to the Hotmail team. Sorry about that.

Re: Overwhelmed with pitches, Dave, say it isn’t so!

Ross — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:41:19 -0000

Maybe Dave just needs more time off to sue all his ex-colleagues?

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D. Wellington — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:06:44 -0000

I assume the date he's giving up his blog would be sometime in April, possibly the 1st?

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Dmad — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:13:31 -0000

@55. As far as hotmail goes.. well, you get what you pay for.

Re: Overwhelmed with pitches, Dave, say it isn’t so!

Tom Raftery — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:58:15 -0000

What’s your small story? How about we do a contest? 100 things that you won’t read about on Digg, Memeorandum, or TailRank? Wouldn’t that be fun?

Robert - my small story is how furious I am that Hotmail deleted all my old mails - going back years - just because I didn't log in in the last 30 days.

How stupid a policy is that? Do any of hotmail's competitors have similar policies?

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Ethan — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:04:02 -0000

I dont understand this at all.. Why dont all your Guys stop bloging for a change and really engage in conversations ??

Or have the stones to set a date? I did - TVT has been terminated this morning. Compare that to empty threats of stopping "someday", or "later this year".

Want conversations? Want community? Take a gander at Vision Monthly. Real people, 100% community supported, no ads, ever.

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Ian Betteridge — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:18:30 -0000

Robert, I think it sounds a little like you're trying to have your cake and eat it. Actually, that's a little strong: but you've spent many long hours talking UP the impact and influence of bloggers and blogging in general. You've contributed to the hype around blogging. Unfortunately for your inbox, there's a price that comes attached to that - you will gain the attention of people who want to reach your readers through you.

You're an opinion-former, Robert, whether you like it or not! :)

As for Dave's decision, I think it will make precisely zero difference to anyone outside his circle. Dave is no more responsible for the popularity of blogging than Gutenberg is responsible for the popularity of Vogue magazine. Dave made some tools that people have used to make great stuff, and that inspired other people to make better tools than his, but claiming that him deciding not to blog (and personally I'll believe it when I see it) will have some impact on the wider blogging space is silly.

Blogging grew beyond the point where Dave Winer could have an impact on it years ago. I suspect that 90% of the people who use LiveJournal or Blogger or TypePad barely know who he is, let alone care if he blogs.

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John Furrier — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:11:55 -0000

This is a great post. Transparent and honest.

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glemak — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 21:58:08 -0000

hey robert - my take on dave potentially giving up his blog is that he'll be lonely - he uses his blog the way most folks talk to their neighbors, co-workers and friends - he is a nomadic soul, so the blog ends up being his way of staying in touch and connected...

he really shouldn't give that up - maybe he should just blog less and take a break from time to time is all...

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Chris Heuer — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 21:22:49 -0000

People are the ultimate vessels for life energy in the world. Whenever we are connected to a story, a photo, a bunch of text, a piece of music or something that strikes a chord, it is generally because we are sharing a real experience with another human that holds meaning for us to. In a very real sense it is finding meaning in life in the small things that connect us to one another - that connects us to ourselves.

I still don't use a feed reader because I dont have time to be that committed to reading any one thing or person. Sure, I have missed important conversations as they emerged, but with time and perspective I was able to get to the stuff that really mattered in it all rather than being wrapped up in it. But I have never missed the life I am in while I am living it.

I love gadgets, tech and toys - but only in so far as they enhance my lilfe. Once, during the downturn in 2002, I did not check voicemail for almost 6 months. The people who needed to get a hold of me got a hold of me or I got in touch with them. Not something I will be able to do with the new committments in my life, but it was fun while I had my freedom to do so...

Then to think that half of the people I know cant say what they really mean out of fear for pissing off (or causing legal harm to) an organization they represent. That just sucks. I had to deal with some political BS with a client once where I had to recheck each email 8x before sending it, then even after clicking send, I was paranoid that I had one of the wrong people on the cc list...

One of the things we hope to do with BrainJams is to help the disenfranchised centrist majority to find ears for their great ideas to hear. The power of knowledge is not limited by any Power Law, though the ability to gain wide distribution might be. I think we can fix this somehow and hope we figure it ouot soon. Long live the M-listers!

Nuff rant for now.

People matter. Good technology is a tool that enhances what matters most to us in life, not those that suck life from us.

Re: Overwhelmed with pitches, Dave, say it isn’t so!

pit schultz — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:14:54 -0000

let's not underestimate mr. winer. if he says he stops blogging, he is probably about to change blogging alltogether, once again. so he puts his focus on the mother (and metalevel) of all text forms: lists. and again comes up with a potential killer format. btw, small details, what was the original function of live.com?
who said that it has to be always people reading rss? people love to watch tv. if you want to change someting, change big broadcast media, radio and tv, and don't boil yourself in your own soup (as we say over here)..

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RL — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:01:52 -0000

Darin, I think you said it all....... thank god for the common people who are bringing back democracy one piece at a time.

Re: Overwhelmed with pitches, Dave, say it isn’t so!

Darin Patrick Codon — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:50:06 -0000

Thanks for the message. I remember calling you about 6 months ago, it was a couple of weeks before you quit blogging for a week.

You were in this state of panic, despair. I recall your concern with the way the world was changing. You watched the Seattle Police fairy escorts with sorrow.

I called becuase I was concerned about Microsoft and their China implementation. I was concerned about the future of democracy and the role your country took in it.

I live in the Ozarks though I feel more connected to my fellow Netizens of old. I plan on taking this back - Remember Dave?

Blogging is taking on a new meaning to me today. I've been able to meet local politicians, business leaders and men I would never have had the opportunity to meet. I get to ride on the backs of you guys and the development we do together. I get to capitalize on this brainpower. That's what's cool about this revolution - access to massive amounts of world brainpower.

I bet you wouldn't remember me today. But, I remember you asking the concerns I raised to you personally to Bill Gates.

I read about your condemnation of those within Microsoft who fail to support democracy and the sacred nature of a free press to creating a free world.

I feel vindicated.

Dave Winer wrote me an e-mail almost a year ago. I was reading a book on RSS and couldn't get it. He let me know...the inventor..that the book was making it more complicated than it needed to be. That meant a lot. It still means a lot.

I just wanted to let you know that I'm sharing this technology here in the Ozarks. I'm helping our government open dialogue and communicate. I'm beggining to make a Vlog which is nothing less to me than my own local TV station.

Just wanted to say thank you to you and to Dave and wanted to let you know, your work has meant worlds to me and my community.

Tonight a website goes online as a gift to our local Salvation Army. They'll be blogging for goodwill and that could mean the world to someone else.

Sincerely,
Darin Codon
No time to edit Laptop will die

Re: Overwhelmed with pitches, Dave, say it isn’t so!

Robert Scoble — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:03:52 -0000

Steven, thanks, unfortunately I'm on my way home from SXSW. I wish I could stay for the music, but I've been away from home too much lately.

Re: Overwhelmed with pitches, Dave, say it isn’t so!

Guy Pelletier — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:52:02 -0000

Popularity is an evil that always follows fame. This blog is your personal blog and yet you have a very latge following with it. Your job blog (Channel 9) does not appear to have as large a following as this one does. Robert in case you did not know it, your famous now and you have the bloggers version of Paparazzi - e-mailers. Sorry folks I know this sounds harsh but everybody that demands attention (I have sent Scoble e-mail myself) is gulity of having the Scobilizer light turn on them.
You can only get more famous or hid somewhere.

Re: Overwhelmed with pitches, Dave, say it isn’t so!

Jeff Tomlin — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:28:05 -0000

I'm soaking it all in Robert. I just read your book while on vacation in the Domincan Republic. After Siping sex on the beach with sun sand and Scoble, I'm ready to jump into the blogoshpere. Now if I can only get my first comment...