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Acidia — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:04:36 -0000

Peter Carvell slow buggy rubbish? maybe its more dumb, stupid retarded user?

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Peter Carvell — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:13:12 -0000

I just gave up my N95 today. Buggy, slow, rubbish piece of crap. I'll wait and get the K850i or W960 when they come down a bit in price. I'll have my old K800 over the N95 any day.

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Robert Scoble — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:31:49 -0000

rob: I've never been paid a dime by Apple Computer and, unlike Nokia, I haven't been sent a free iPhone either (Nokia sends bloggers free phones -- I didn't get mine from Nokia, but from Pure Mobile, a distributor of phones).

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rob — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:53:28 -0000

That must be one big phat check you have from Apple?!

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delvee — Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:17:16 -0000

Hi Robert,

I am happy for you to make your money by blogging. You are totally funny guy.

BR,
DV

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tnkgrl — Sun, 08 Jul 2007 02:55:47 -0000

I'm in the same boat as you Robert... I have both a Nokia N95 and an Apple iPhone!

I spent a few days in Seattle around July 4th, and used my N95 mostly as a camera, and my iPhone for everything else :)

Of course, I'm still in the honeymoon phase, but as an Internet device, the iPhone beats the N95.

I'm still committed to teh N95 as my primary phone, but I'm using the iPhone more than I expected.

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Tony Pisarek — Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:17:11 -0000

I watch the grenades being tossed back and forth, admittedly, with some amusement, I can only think that the arguments, accusations, not too mention the "mine is bigger than yours" contests, are unnecessary.. The reason that there are so many devices on the market is that not everyone's criteria for what the perfect device is, is the same.

I just, as in, 2 days ago needed to get new phone because the piece of crap, Windows Mobile-Based Motorola Q, decided to die once again.. Because I also use the device for business communication, I need something I can rely on.. Windows Mobile apparently isn't it... (I hope that this doesn't start a WM5/6, Symbian, Apple, Palm, flamewar..)

I owned a Palm based Treo and was frustrated by some of its failings as well.. Ruling out all things Windows Mobile and Palm... I looked at, and played with the iPhone, and compared it to the N95.. For a number of reasons, I selected the N95, bought an unlocked/unbranded version and am, thus far, very pleased. I have not experienced any of the issues regarding battery life, instability, etc.. I am running the latest firmware..

I have never owned a Symbian Based Phone, or anything Apple... Unless you count the Apple II+, IIe, IIGS, and the few iPods I have owned or currently own..

The iPhone has some definitely eye-catching features.. it's just not for me... there were too many show-stoppers, and missing features that are important to me when I looked at it..

Will I eventually own an iPhone? Maybe.. But, definitely not a version 1.0 one, but things can change.. I think Apple has some work to do.

Hell, I know a lady that lives down the street that is still using a rotary phone hanging on the wall in her kitchen and she is perfectly happy with that...

To each his own.. Differing viewpoints drive creativity, competition. innovation and progress..

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Isamu Shinozaki — Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:14:08 -0000

I love my N95 but I'm not that religious to it and I don't see myself ditching it for an iPhone anytime soon.

I'm really in utter disgust on the approach the N95 community is taking on the iPhone. Senseless jabs.. here, there. If you didn't read well enough, I love my N95 and it's clearly conquered over the iPhone by a mile on the features side.

I've actually mentioned something like this to Darla Mack, the N95 community or Nokia in general is becoming what the Apple ads are to the Microsoft community, and I hate that. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO PROVE but yet we can't shut up.

My two cents.

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Robert Scoble — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:14:56 -0000

I updated the N95's firmware two weeks ago. I'll have to get the latest v. 12 update.

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Mark_Anderson — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:05:53 -0000

As the iPhone hasn't been released in Europe I'm not in a position to say if it's a more enjoyable user experience than the N95 or not so all I can go on is:

a) How easy I find the N95 to use, and
b) The features of each device and how often I would use them.

In answer to to a) I have to say "very easy". Everything is where it should be and my most important applications are just one key press away. So: Is a touchscreen UI cool? Yes. Do I really need one? No.

As for b), I use my 'phone mainly for calls, texts, music, quick web browsing, e-mail and navigation and find the N95 pretty good at all of them. Maybe the iPhone is better at some functions but that isn't a substitute for not having other essential features at all. Also, wi-fi is fine and dandy when you're sitting sipping your skinny latte in a hot spot enabled cafe but HSDPA is essential for mobile browsing on the tube or the bus which is where it's mostly going to be used.

I'll certainly give the iPhone a try out though. I just don't think it'll do for me and the majority of the European market though.

As a final point, Robert - have you updated the N95's firmware (currently V12)? This has corrected the stability issues and improved a number of the unit's features.

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Steve Keriaglou — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:29:26 -0000

I would have prefered a more intelligent discussion on here. I understand why Scoble's blog was gaining more and more popularity in the beginning, it was of higher quality. Now it seems that polarizing just for the sake of it is making the blog more popular. As we all know -we can't argue about taste. So leave ppl alone if they don't own the cell u think they need. That goes both for Nokia and Iphone users!
And please, when somebody states a good point acknowledge that please. Try to admit that you were wrong at a certain point. That's exactly the reason why I think it's not religions colliding. It is simply the inability to accept that there are also positive things about other people's cellphones. That's why ppl start to discuss heavily now. Acknowledge the other and it's all good. On one hand Scoble lacks a bit the ability to admit when he was wrong; but on the other hand some of the BLOG READERS DO THAT TOO! I don't know what Scoble's real life occupation is, but I am pretty sure he is not a journalist. If he was he might have been more able to express that EVERY cellphone has a right to exist. He has just fallen in love with the iphone now. And we all now damn well that ppl who are heavily in love can't get their mind changed by other ppl. So leave it! Love is blind! Alright, now I want EVERY ONE here to try and put their emotions aside- please be more objective on here. Thank you! :-)

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Corrupted Mind — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 11:33:11 -0000

I have been following this debate and felt compelled to share a quick word or two. Both my buddy and I are european "phone enthusiasts" - to be truthful we're phone whore's (no allegiance to any brand). To declare upfront, he currently holds an SE K800i and I'm rolling with a Nokia N93 (I think I should also make clear that - either of us could have ANY phone, bar the Vertu nonsense, and have chosen these phones on merit and lifestyle fit).

Yesterday we had a kinda surreal discussion on the iphone - the highlights of which were:

* The main thing is HSDPA. Not even regular 3G can keep up with my internet phone demands, and the way I see wi-fi, whereever it is available to me (work and home) a desktop or laptop is nearby. I don't sit in coffee shops to browse the net.
* An RSS reader, although I understand there will be apps that can do this.
* User customisable ringtones and sms alerts. Major oversight that can be rectified by firmware upgrades I suppose.
* No MMS is terrible. It really shows how much they only think about the US market. I send pictures all the time, email isn't as immediate.
* No ObEx bluetooth profile... thats like going back to GX30 Sharp days.. again, people won't stand for it.
* No proper Cam
* No camcorder
* No phone as Modem functionality.

Both of us are considering the iphone, but as 2nd phones (dope dealer style)...

More thoughts to add to the pot I guess (sorry about the length of post). Is my post off-topic? Damn, briefly - Robert isn't a Nokia hater and who wouldn't lust after a iphone - In Europe we just accept that the Nokia phone design department is where they sculpt BRICKS!!

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LayZ — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:54:34 -0000

"Since leaving a year ago I’ve interviewed more than 100 CEOs"

What percentage of those CEOs are running companies that are profitable? What percentage of those CEOs are running companies with >1000 employees? Point is, anyone can start a Web 2.0 company and call themselves a CEO. Doesn't mean they actually know how to run a business. So, unless ALL those CEOs were part of the F500, that's really not something to necessarily brag about nor does it make for a great barometer.

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cg — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:52:02 -0000

Amazing how a flame war starts over smartphones. After all this is Scoble's blog and from what I have been following he offers *some* reasons for why he thinks the iPhone is better. As the cliche goes, "To each his(or her) own".

My opinion? Features aren't everything. Something to keep in mind in the seemingly endless iPhone vs N95 debates...err if they can be called debates, that is.

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LayZ — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:37:51 -0000

@17 "Walt Mossberg, of the Wall Street Journal, called it revolutionary."

Mossberg wouldn't know revolutionary if he were dropped in the middle of King Street in Boston on March 5, 1770.

Mossberg more or less loves the last thing he's reviewed, particularly if it comes from Apple. Hardly a "non-partisan" endorsement.

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Geoffrey — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:09:43 -0000

Podesta:

"GPS can be handy, though I found the example of using it as a Neighborhood Positioning System during one’s daily run silly. (Get Nike + iPod instead.)"

The nike device won't map your route to a satellitel photograph on Google Earth. Plus, now you're using two devices, not one :)

It maybe an unnecessary use of GPS (I used the phone to drive 2800 miles this summer, across country, where it was incredibly useful) - but it is FUN. Try it sometime... the Nokia SportsTracker.

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toivo — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:14:12 -0000

computer geeks in 2007: ctrl+J, ctrl+J, ctrl+J, ctrl+K, ctrl+S, ctrl+J, ctrl+J, ctrl+J, ctrl+S

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Geoffrey — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:12:21 -0000

My mistake, Robert, you are right, and I did read elsewhere that you don't own an iphone. I did not mean to suggest otherwise. But you did say in an earlier blog you were planning on buying two, so perhaps it was a reasonable confusion on my part...

With my n95, I very rarely have crashes, and have been very pleased by the results of the n95 camera, including the fun of geocoding. I love the GPS and other functions. Every day, I bike 15 miles and the n95 records my speed, altitude, time, and maps my course to google earth! And I take pictures and answer the phone, along the way.

I admit, I am sure I would love an iphone too, it is undoubtely a cool device.

My offer still stands... I can get your n95 gps locked in under 20 seconds or... I dunno, did we settle on a beer?

They are two different phones. I hope you continue to explore some of the amazing features of the n95 ...

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Robert Scoble — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:04:14 -0000

Today I raced Bart. I used my Nokia N95. He used his iPhone. My phone crashed when I first opened up the lens shade. I rebooted the phone. And started again. He was able to take a photo before my camera even booted up and showed an image.

That's why I said the "photo taking experience is better on the iPhone."

Oh, and to demonstrate you are NOT listening to me. I don't even have an iPhone. I bought one for my wife. Get your facts straight and maybe we can have a decent conversation. I love my Nokia N95. You HAVE noticed I use it for all the pictures I take, right?

But it is no iPhone.

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Geoffrey — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:54:15 -0000

scoble,

You haven't until now, addressed anything I've said, so you can't tell me you're done arguing :). Plus, I'm not here to win - there are two things I'd like to point out, that's all.

Choose the iphone, there are plenty of good reasons and I don't deny it... certainly coolness is an acceptable factor.

The first thing that annoyed me was your statement that the iphone offered a 'better picture taking experience'.

In the real world, Robert, believe it or not, the PICTURE is part of the "picture taking experience"... so the result matters.

I don't care how great it feels to press the button, what matters is the end result. The iphone has a crappy camera... and no, "go buy a camera" isn't a defense either... it's an admission, by you and Steve Jobs, that they screwed up in the camera department.

My second problem is that every reference you make to the n95 - a good, solid convergent device - is filled with backhanded compliments (GPS? "yes, I’ve used it, it takes four minutes to get a lock most of the time" - simply not true, mine locks on in 20 seconds or less, and I can demonstrate it on yours if you send me your n95 - I'll do a video of it)... yet your blog is also filled with all kinds of excuses for the iphone (such as: "if you want a camera, buy a camera!")

Where's the balance there?

Lastly:

Scoble said: "Hint: having a GPS, a better camera, video, 3G networks, and all that doesn’t MATTER to having a better phone experience."

Scoble, I bought a convergent device that does many things, mostly very well... I didn't want just a phone...

Is that all you bought the iphone for?

Sorry to hear it!

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Robert Scoble — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:42:32 -0000

Oliver: heheh, I was just telling Patrick that when I was his age in 1977 we used to argue about Apple II's vs. Mainframes. :-)

Come to think of it, the conversations were extremely similar to the ones we're having today.

And the end result will be the same, too.

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Robert Scoble — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:41:26 -0000

Geoffrey: Coolness has SOMETHING to do with it, yes.

But it is a superior phone, too. But I'm done arguing with you guys. You aren't here for a conversation about why, you're just here to "win" an argument. Hint: having a GPS, a better camera, video, 3G networks, and all that doesn't MATTER to having a better phone experience.

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Oliver Widder — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:38:28 -0000

At the end of the day it's just a thing you can phone with.

See my small cartoon:
http://geekandpoke.typepad....

Bye,
Oliver

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Geoffrey — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:36:19 -0000

"No one has EVER stopped me in the street for carrying around my Nokia."

I think that really says it all. You don't deny the n95 has a better camera, GPS, 1200+ apps...

you just want the cool factor.

Admit it and be done with it. Just don't tell us its a better phone.

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Robert Scoble — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:18:05 -0000

>Salada2k: I've written AT LENGTH over the past two weeks about what's inferior about the iPhone. It's pretty obvious to me you aren't an astute reader if you've missed my many posts on the topic. So, I'd rather you not read me. I want smart readers here and ones that do their homework and participate in a conversation rather than just slinging mud because their piece of kit isn't as cool as the next guy's. Have a good day!