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Re: No AJAXy women?

Mike Sanlon — Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:13:58 -0000

Aren't these conferences just an exercise in circle jerking. The "Blogging Elite" meeting to discuss more ways that Web 2.0 (God I hate that term, it has no foundation in standards - and reeks of marketing hyperbole) can change things.

I've been following a lot of these sites thanks to Scoble's links and frankly I think they are totally over-hyped.

It all sounds like the dot-com Boom all over again, only this time I'm hoping the emperor has found some clothes.

Isn't the bigger picture, getting Mr Joe Average with his AOL/MSN/Yahoo email account exposed to blogging, mobile web, and having them hit those AJAX sites at least once?

These people don't know who Robert Scoble is, or what RSS is and when you tell them their answer is: "Sounds boring"

Where is the Web 2.0 killer app? And please god don't tell me it's a social networking/photo sharing/office on-line thing. We can do all this stuff with normal programs.

Re: No AJAXy women?

Laurent Haug — Thu, 22 Dec 2005 07:18:18 -0000

In related news: at LIFT06 (the conference Robert will do the closing keynote on February 2-3 in Geneva Switzerland) we just announced a panel on Women and technology.

http://www.lift06.org/blog/...

Anina, Kelly Richdale, Beth Krasna and Emmanuelle Richard will discuss why women, 50% of total users of technology, are so under-represented in the geek world.

Re: No AJAXy women?

Nicole Simon (Berlin, Germany) — Wed, 21 Dec 2005 14:30:11 -0000

Well, I am not a lamp girl, and I will be going to Etech. :)

And yes, servers of mine run on Lamp. But not my working machines for myself, those are Windows. :)

Re: No AJAXy women?

setmajer — Wed, 21 Dec 2005 09:02:54 -0000

A (very) abbreviated list of people with whom I'd like to have lunch at a web design/dev wingding:

Adam Bosworth
Tantek Çelik
Brendan Eich
Håkon Wium Lie
Bert Bos
Ian Hickson
Shaun Inman
Mike Davidson
Eric Meyer
Danny Goodman
David Flanagan
Dave Winer
Khoi Vinh
Hillman Curtis
Mark Boulton
Andrei Herasimchuk
Tim Berners Lee
Tim Bray
Hrant Papazian
Matthew Carter
Jason Fried
Larry Wall
David Heinemeier Hansson
Joe Clark

Re: No AJAXy women?

John C. Welch — Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:18:45 -0000

Yep. You want to know why you see the same people at the conferences? well, move them. THis one's new, there was no requirement for it to be anywhere. But, you put it in Vegas or Cali, it's Yet Another West Coast Conference.

Whatever

Besides...MixMasters? Um...right.

Re: No AJAXy women?

Richard Brownell — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:25:00 -0000

John C: agreed. Hollywood has spread across the country. The tech industry is stuck on the west coast, the video game industry moreso.

Although personally I don't care too much. I have a good job at a tech company (APC) and if/when I leave, it will probably be to do a startup, in which case I can work wherever I want.

Re: No AJAXy women?

John C. Welch — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:22:25 -0000

Lord, yet another West coast conference. I've enough to go to as it is. YOu know, there's an entire country that ISN'T on the West Coast, or Vegas. Really. You should try seeing it some time.

Re: No AJAXy women?

Nathan de Vries — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:09:07 -0000

I think you're going to have a bunch of "mix masters" and no-one to watch. The crowds you're after can't afford to go, and the corporate circle-jerkers really couldn't give a damn who they're listening to, just so long as they can sell the final product.

Re: No AJAXy women?

Morgan Schweers — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:41:57 -0000

Greetings,
Does LAMP imply !AJAX? I'd think LAMP as a backend would be the easiest way to implement AJAX. (Caveat, I say this as a developer who has implemented tools using LAMP as the backend behind an AJAX UI, because...well...I think it's the easiest way. :) )

Anyhow, on a side-note thanks for the pointer to your OPML file. It's been a treasure-trove of hard-to-parse feeds, including unusual HTML entities, broken HTML, and non-content data! ;) (I really do mean treasure-trove, as it's stressed my RSS parsing library to near death, and that which does not kill a library...) One wonders how the search engines filter this stuff out, until you realize they usually just don't care.

Google's Zeitgeist for 2005 is out... Hopefully I'll be able to generate a decent 'Scoble Zeitgeist' (where 'Scoble' is anybody who has an OPML file of their own) shortly.

-- Morgan Schweers, CyberFOX!

p.s. The acronymage above really got me thinking... "REST easy using Pine Fresh AJAX instead of the leading SOAP to get rid of the Web 2.0 that's grown on your LAMPs!"

Re: No AJAXy women?

dunsany — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:39:43 -0000

Why aren't women invited to speak at tech conferences? I know if I was running conf, be it Ajax, Etech or whatever, my short list would include Esther Dyson.

Re: No AJAXy women?

Dori — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:20:36 -0000

Hey, thanks for the link and the compliment!

If MS is serious about me going to Mix '06, someone should contact me. 2006 is beginning to look very busy (in a good way!).

Re: No AJAXy women?

scobleizer — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:44:48 -0000

Although you should be coming to speak, no?

Re: No AJAXy women?

scobleizer — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:44:16 -0000

Dare: I sincerely doubt that Mix and ETech will have much commonality. ETech types tend to be LAMP types.

Re: No AJAXy women?

Dare Obasanjo — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:35:12 -0000

I'm tired of seeing the same faces at the all these technology conferences. Given that I'm going to ETech, I'm doubt I'm going to go to Mix '06 to see the exact same crowd a few weeks later.

Re: No AJAXy women?

scobleizer — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:10:59 -0000

Richard: no.

Here's the Wikipedia entry on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... -- go read that and if you still have any questions, let us know.

Re: No AJAXy women?

Richard — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:10:17 -0000

I am trying to understand what this Ajax stuff is? Is this just another version of Java or is it easier to write then java?