Good god, what conceit! He just mentioned your name, and you decide that he's "sucking up"?
/pd
· 3 years ago
" great name has the potential to turn into a verb. Examples: Xerox (fortunately, they overcame the X), Google, Digg, and StuffIt. (Scoble too?***) Words with verb potential are short--no more than three syllables and “active sounding.” "
I wonder how he was sucking up ??
Woot woot "Scoblize it" ?? Like lets "xerox it" or its a "Kodak moment" . I dont think so Robert !!!
Mr. Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I'm an employee of Microsoft. You're an embarrassment.
Marc Valentine
· 3 years ago
Wow, what an ego. You're seriously starting to lose it. Is this comment "sucking up"?
Milcho Srebrenica
· 3 years ago
What would "to Scoble" or "to Scobleize" mean exactly? To be a pompous turd, paid Microsoft shill, and all around jackass? If so, it will probably get accepted broadly. Regardless of what Mr. Kawasaki was attempting to do - which I highly doubt was to "suck up" to your fat ass - it appears to have worked as you've now linked to his blog. I don't know why I read you anymore. You're ridiculous.
scobleizer
· 3 years ago
Geez, all the love!
If you read Guy's post he said he was sucking up to me. You guys don't read very carefully, do you?
Mr. Anonymous: you're an embarrassment to Microsoft. Why don't you sign your name so we can all take shots at you the way you did here?
John C. Welch
· 3 years ago
well, if you read the WHOLE article, you see this bit:
*** I threw this in since he's always saying that I don't include enough outbound links in my blog. How's that for sucking up? :-)
So yes, Robert is correct, Guy is sucking up in a humorous way. It's a joke people. I mean, I'll smack Robert around when he's being a prat, but really...read the ENTIRE POST first.
Yeesh.
Diego
· 3 years ago
Scoble: "If you read Guy’s post he said he was sucking up to me. You guys don’t read very carefully, do you?"
Sometimes not reading something still doesn't stop people from commenting. Always reminds me of when controversial books and films are released and some people still protest or comment without having read or seen the films. "The Last Temptation of Christ" anyone?
Diego
· 3 years ago
Sure... the whole Scoble "Suck Up" Scandal and "The Last Temptation of Christ" scandal are slightly different in magnitude, but you get the drift. :)
Matt Jaunich
· 3 years ago
I have a great blog waiting to be discovered, Guy, and I even won your "most likely to be an MBA" award! Check it out -
What? Microsoft bashers are making personal attacks on Scoble? I am truly stunned. I've never witnessed this sort of behavior before...it's unprecedented!
Dmad
· 3 years ago
I'm not sure I understand the point of this entry except for Scoble to show his terminal insecurity by mentinoing again how someone links to him. "See! Look at how well known my blog is! You can be like me, too if you get enough people to link to you!" We get it, Scoble. You think you are important, but you're only known in a limited geek blogosphere. Now, go back to blogging about your company's products so you can work to give your shareholders more value.
John C. Welch
· 3 years ago
No Robert, you're ALWAYS egotistical, but this time, you were just going along with the humor in Guy's post.
This debate makes for great reading. Although I'd call a few of the comments below the belt. (pun intended)
So let me get this straight: Scoble advises someone to find talented, unknown bloggers and link to them. He then suggests that Guy should interact with his readers and include them in his conversations. So...could someone please explain the logic behind attacking Rob for these points? If you're a bitter "D-Lister," wouldn't this post show some support for you?
Whoosh, I really thought he was referring to Piaras Kelly's PR blog as he referred to it as a "very interesting discussion". Sure, he name-checked you but that was because you have a great name for verbage. Make sure you encourage your lad to use it - I full expect to be "scobling" things by the time he's in college. Smart kid (well, he chose the Mac...duh!) :D
Still -- it's cool to be namechecked by the great Guy Kawasaki ;) even when you're an A-list blogger with a bazillion loyal subscribers
All said, some of your readers really need to chow down on a kilo of "Chill the **** Out".
feedscott
· 3 years ago
We need blogging as an olympic sport to settle this :)
kill your tv
· 3 years ago
Ah the egos of rich middle-aged white men...they never could quite free themselves from what Freud dubbed the 'mother complex'...thank god the red alternative is on the horizon, not that it will be any better, but at least it will bring change to the appalling white hegemony we have to put up with.
Scoble, the writing is on the wall when your own team turns against you...change or be changed.
skc
· 3 years ago
Wow, I wonder if all the people that made personal attacks on Scoble in this post will come back and admit that they look like complete and utter idiots after realizing the joke that both Robert and Guy are in on.
The Scoble hate is pathetic.
Pete Quily
· 3 years ago
Hey Robert,
Guy's been doing well for a novice blogger.
He's been blogging for less than 2 months and already has 1,567 sites linking to him in Technorati vs your 3793, and he isn't even out of google's sandbox yet. Is that some kind of record?
He may learn some tips on blogging from you but I don't think he needs you to teach him how to build a user movement.
"Kawasaki is credited as being one of the first to use evangelical methods to promote a computer brand."
As someone who's read and benefitted from some of his tips for spreading the light (Macintosh), you might learn a few tips about developing a user movement from Guy. Of course, you have a more difficult product to sell:)
MK
· 3 years ago
This bridge has a lot of trolls under it.
Jonas Antonsson
· 3 years ago
Scoble.
Nice point on linking to lesser known blogs - although I think Pete Quily is probably right. Most might learn a few tips about developing a user movement from Guy.
Disregard all the hate and personal attacks.
J#
Christopher Coulter
· 3 years ago
Hey, I got the joke...
Per Guy's post, good thoughts, however the runaway product can blast away all that. But never with the dot.com Z,Y,X Spacey names.
But it's just basic branding, not sure why this Marketing 101 stuff is all a grand 'Road to Damascus' revelation for VCs and Bloggers. But anyone laser-focused on being first in the alphabet, doesn't have a good product to begin with; good enough product they will beat a door, no matter where you place yourself in the CES list.
Michiel
· 3 years ago
This post and the comments contain entirely too much of the work 'suck'. Which makes a point in itself.
kill your tv
· 3 years ago
What the pro-scoble, oh-my-god-the-outrage crowd needs to understand, and I think Mr. S has well understood it himself, is that the trolls (myself included on this thread) are a necessary evil: a) any controversy brings in the punters and b) without a 'negative' force there would be nothing to spur blogs like this on.
Guy Pelletier
· 3 years ago
Robert, If nothing else, you have proved what you keep saying all along.Bloging is the next level of marketing. Evenwith the last several post you have made, you keep getting hate comments like nobody else. This market you find yourselve in is as naked as anyone could be and yet your subscribers keep growing. I agree with you you, if nothing else, you comment, you should have the whatevers to leave a return address so that everybody can comment back.
You do not need any encouragment Robert, your numbers speak for themselves.
Rick C.
· 3 years ago
I just do not understand the "hate Scoble" crowd. Good grief, would you people just go get a life somewhere, anywhere? The man is not a god, nor is he evil-incarnate. He's just a rather normal-sounding human being expressing his opinion about a variety of topics. So what's the big deal? Geez, get off his case. If you think he's got an ego as big as a continent... so what? Why do I care about your opinion? Go get your own blog, and spew your hate over there. I'd prefer to read some semi-intelligent comments without all the nastiness. Although because it's a free country, and Robert is kind enough to post your junk, even though he's under no obligation to do so, I guess I'll just have to endure it, anyway. Too bad...
Richard Brownell
· 3 years ago
kill your tv: way to be racist man. There are plenty of non-white bloggers out there. I see no reason to bash Scoble for being white. He can stop working at Microsoft, change his opinions on things, and close his blog, but he'll always be white. Oh well, I guess racism is the next step in the Scoble trolling.
Never trust whitey
Sam
· 3 years ago
Robert, did you see the lame Google Pages (http://pages.google.com) that's trying to compete with Office Live?
Robert Anderson
· 3 years ago
I was going to just make a crack here: "It looks like you've been scobled", then I read the comments.
Why on earth do people take this all so seriously? A joke on Kawasaki's side, noted by Robert gets people upset why?
I guess I'm just clueless in Oakland
anon
· 3 years ago
Congratulations Robert. You're in the big leagues now.
Aunt Mid
· 3 years ago
Scoble wants us to point to lesser known bloggers, like his son, perhaps.
Peter T Davis
· 3 years ago
Geez, you should get over yourself already. And, by the way, your book put me to sleep.
Fred
· 3 years ago
Guy doesn't need to suck up to a nobody like you, Robert!
D. Wellington
· 3 years ago
This is the way I see it: Kawasaki teased Robert with his post. Robert, feeling vulnerable and slightly insecure because many of the blogger suckup techniques he has been using were being called out for what they were, gets defensive. Taking Guy's joke overly seriously, Robert attempts to score points against Guy by adopting a Holier-Than-Thou stance, appealing to the sentiments of the masses, and, therefore, making a faux attempt to defend the "little guys" (Really, since when has Microsoft been concerned the with welfare of the little guys? lol)
You have to understand what Scoble's blog is all about. It's an attempt by MS to simulate the type of grassroots buzz that other companies like Apple generate for free from their UNPAID users. Scoble attempts to build bridges with other potential opinion leaders (making them feel important) and attempts to appear reasonable and fair all so that whenever MS releases products and Scoble says how wonderful they are, everyone believes him. End of story. Give the guy a break, he's just trying to do his job.
scobleizer
· 3 years ago
D. Wellington: unfortunately that's how I really feel. Steve Broback (founder of Blog Business Summit) asked me last week "how do you quantify influence of a blogger" and I said "you better forget about that and pay attention to the kid in Australia with 5 readers. He's gonna be the one to point out your product sucks, if it does, and he'll get found within an hour of his post."
You might also realize that I blogged for three years before joining Microsoft. You also might realize that when I did marketing for Winnov I remembered when anyone with any influence paid attention to us, cause it was so rare.
That's why I said that Guy should suck up to the unknowns. That's how he'll make his brand even bigger. Getting yet another link from me won't help him (and, might even do him some brand damage as the comments here point out -- everyone hates the guy on top).
Janine
· 3 years ago
I fully understood what you meant in this post as it is something that happened to me approximately 8 months ago. TDavid at MakeYouGoHmm.com did exactly to me what you are talking about and, obviously, I haven't forgotten about it. I thought it was really cool that # 1) he even read my blog and # 2) that he made a post to his own blog referencing a post on my blog. But, he did more than that. He went on to tell his readers that my blog typically isn't something he would normally read but he enjoyed it because it added a little variety to his feeds. I'm not like most of your readers here, Robert. I am not into technology on the scale as most of your readers are and I consider my journal/diary blog to be not very different than so many other blogs like it out here on the net. That is why TDavid making a reference to it made a really big impression on me.
I read your blog for the simple fact that, more often than not, I learn something new every time I visit your site. Be it something you personally teach me or a link to another location where I discover something (or someone) new. I don't want to speak for you but I think this might be a little close to what your point is here in this post. Kind of like what TDavid did to me when he linked my blog. It was a total feel-good and I'll always remember him for it.
misssexy
· 3 years ago
hay nice story how old r u im 14 love hot chilly chick
met
· 3 years ago
For people saying Kawasaki is great and blah.... :)
Give Scoble a chance... If he can make MS half as evil as it is today - that will be a greater feat than anything Kawasaki can do in his entire life. and still keep MS profitable ofcourse ;)
met
· 3 years ago
To people saying Kawasaki is great and blah.... :)
Give Scoble a chance... If he can make MS half as evil as it is today - that will be a greater feat than anything Kawasaki can do in his entire life. and still keep MS profitable ofcourse ;)
All Comments
I wonder how he was sucking up ??
Woot woot "Scoblize it" ?? Like lets "xerox it" or its a "Kodak moment" . I dont think so Robert !!!
If you read Guy's post he said he was sucking up to me. You guys don't read very carefully, do you?
Mr. Anonymous: you're an embarrassment to Microsoft. Why don't you sign your name so we can all take shots at you the way you did here?
*** I threw this in since he's always saying that I don't include enough outbound links in my blog. How's that for sucking up? :-)
So yes, Robert is correct, Guy is sucking up in a humorous way. It's a joke people. I mean, I'll smack Robert around when he's being a prat, but really...read the ENTIRE POST first.
Yeesh.
Sometimes not reading something still doesn't stop people from commenting. Always reminds me of when controversial books and films are released and some people still protest or comment without having read or seen the films. "The Last Temptation of Christ" anyone?
http://www.sharkride.com/
thanks!
So let me get this straight: Scoble advises someone to find talented, unknown bloggers and link to them. He then suggests that Guy should interact with his readers and include them in his conversations. So...could someone please explain the logic behind attacking Rob for these points? If you're a bitter "D-Lister," wouldn't this post show some support for you?
Rob, your back on my feedroll -- http://www.voiceoftech.com/swhitley
.
Still -- it's cool to be namechecked by the great Guy Kawasaki ;) even when you're an A-list blogger with a bazillion loyal subscribers
All said, some of your readers really need to chow down on a kilo of "Chill the **** Out".
Scoble, the writing is on the wall when your own team turns against you...change or be changed.
The Scoble hate is pathetic.
Guy's been doing well for a novice blogger.
He's been blogging for less than 2 months and already has 1,567 sites linking to him in Technorati vs your 3793, and he isn't even out of google's sandbox yet. Is that some kind of record?
He may learn some tips on blogging from you but I don't think he needs you to teach him how to build a user movement.
"Kawasaki is credited as being one of the first to use evangelical methods to promote a computer brand."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_evangelist
might have something to do with it.
As someone who's read and benefitted from some of his tips for spreading the light (Macintosh), you might learn a few tips about developing a user movement from Guy. Of course, you have a more difficult product to sell:)
Nice point on linking to lesser known blogs - although I think Pete Quily is probably right. Most might learn a few tips about developing a user movement from Guy.
Disregard all the hate and personal attacks.
J#
Per Guy's post, good thoughts, however the runaway product can blast away all that. But never with the dot.com Z,Y,X Spacey names.
But it's just basic branding, not sure why this Marketing 101 stuff is all a grand 'Road to Damascus' revelation for VCs and Bloggers. But anyone laser-focused on being first in the alphabet, doesn't have a good product to begin with; good enough product they will beat a door, no matter where you place yourself in the CES list.
If nothing else, you have proved what you keep saying all along.Bloging is the next level of marketing. Evenwith the last several post you have made, you keep getting hate comments like nobody else. This market you find yourselve in is as naked as anyone could be and yet your subscribers keep growing.
I agree with you you, if nothing else, you comment, you should have the whatevers to leave a return address so that everybody can comment back.
You do not need any encouragment Robert, your numbers speak for themselves.
Never trust whitey
Why on earth do people take this all so seriously? A joke on Kawasaki's side, noted by Robert gets people upset why?
I guess I'm just clueless in Oakland
You have to understand what Scoble's blog is all about. It's an attempt by MS to simulate the type of grassroots buzz that other companies like Apple generate for free from their UNPAID users. Scoble attempts to build bridges with other potential opinion leaders (making them feel important) and attempts to appear reasonable and fair all so that whenever MS releases products and Scoble says how wonderful they are, everyone believes him. End of story. Give the guy a break, he's just trying to do his job.
You might also realize that I blogged for three years before joining Microsoft. You also might realize that when I did marketing for Winnov I remembered when anyone with any influence paid attention to us, cause it was so rare.
That's why I said that Guy should suck up to the unknowns. That's how he'll make his brand even bigger. Getting yet another link from me won't help him (and, might even do him some brand damage as the comments here point out -- everyone hates the guy on top).
TDavid at MakeYouGoHmm.com did exactly to me what you are talking about and, obviously, I haven't forgotten about it. I thought it was really cool that # 1) he even read my blog and # 2) that he made a post to his own blog referencing a post on my blog. But, he did more than that. He went on to tell his readers that my blog typically isn't something he would normally read but he enjoyed it because it added a little variety to his feeds.
I'm not like most of your readers here, Robert. I am not into technology on the scale as most of your readers are and I consider my journal/diary blog to be not very different than so many other blogs like it out here on the net. That is why TDavid making a reference to it made a really big impression on me.
I read your blog for the simple fact that, more often than not, I learn something new every time I visit your site. Be it something you personally teach me or a link to another location where I discover something (or someone) new. I don't want to speak for you but I think this might be a little close to what your point is here in this post. Kind of like what TDavid did to me when he linked my blog. It was a total feel-good and I'll always remember him for it.
Give Scoble a chance... If he can make MS half as evil as it is today - that will be a greater feat than anything Kawasaki can do in his entire life.
and still keep MS profitable ofcourse ;)
Give Scoble a chance... If he can make MS half as evil as it is today - that will be a greater feat than anything Kawasaki can do in his entire life.
and still keep MS profitable ofcourse ;)
http://customerevangelists.typepad.com/blog/200...
Figured you would enjoy the nicely done book cover pic.