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lizie — Wed, 10 May 2006 18:20:39 -0000

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J. Random Poster — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:37:34 -0000

BTW, since this "Origami" frob is just a windows PC, it will run iTunes, won't it?

Food for thought.

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Christopher Coulter — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:03:59 -0000

Vegas is the biggest steaming pile of crap in the history of NLE.

I beg to differ (Ulead takes that spot). And knowing tons of pros and studio guys that aren't Sony shrills, that are biggie Vegas fans...well. But I use all. No wars, the focus is on the CRAFT, not the toolset, the days of 'shop talk wars' are long over. What you use? Canopus? Just curious, I am not going to start a 'Mac vs Windows-like' war, always interested in what others think, and the reasoning behind.

But you really didn't expect me to reco Avid Xpress Pro HD or Pinnacle Liquid to a blogger podcaster gishy-gushy whatnot now didyah? :)

Avid - Broadcast arrogant big dog, but modular $.
Adobe Premiere - Nice, but too trapped in the Photoshop zone.
FCP - Loveable and a joy, but has it's annonying quirks.
Vegas - too generic consumerish, but most flexible and quick (imho). Needs interface and HDV work, and the trimmer is quirky as heck.

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Adam Kinney — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:17:53 -0000

Alfredo, we are having issues with safari. If you don't mind, what browser and OS are you havin problems with?

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Sam — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:59:36 -0000

Robert, did you see there's an Office Live blog now? http://spaces.msn.com/offic...

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Alfredo Octavio — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:13:10 -0000

Talent? They look like DJs from MTV in the 80s! Even the topic was boring. Yeah, that's the revolution in Radio! Imagine that people in Saudi Arabia listen to the same music as in the US... great... Also, if they can't make a site that works well, then why would I visit again? even Tiki bar is more entertaining...

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Jon — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:07:46 -0000

Just watched the current video and... wow. It's a 4 minute MTV-ish commercial for Microsoft.

I like watching the channel 9 stuff because there's no pretense and no marketing BS (for the most part).

But 'on10' is just sad. Fast talking people with fast cuts pushing Microsoft products.

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Jonathon — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:08:33 -0000

Seriously, anybody who recommends Vegas over any other product on the market is a Sony shill and should not be trusted. Vegas is the biggest steaming pile of crap in the history of NLE. It's like recommending FrontPage.

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RichB — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:35:00 -0000

It's worth poking around on10 to find the easter egg ;-)

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Dmad — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:01:01 -0000

@19. That's not true at all, Scoble. Long before you were ever at MS, they were making professional qualtiy videos and having "conversations", and did manage to do it by showing up at people's offices. You're excuse is lame.

CSPAN seems to manage to have pretty good conversations while using professional quality videos

Charlie Rose manages to have pretty good converations while using professional quality videos.

Hell, public access TV produces better qualtity

Yes, I do know they are ultimately edited., but you are missing the point. It's quality of the interviewer (that's not you, btw) that makes the content. Low quality producttion does not always equal better credibility.

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Bosko Milekic — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:56:41 -0000

I like Channel10. I also enjoyed the Channel9 interview. Robert, I'm wondering, could you produce an interview with the people who choose and produce the content on 10? It seems that there is a dual value in 10, the first being the community side of it, and the second being a potential content consumer community (presumably they will overlap). It would be interesting to learn more about who drives the content creation + production at 10.

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Andrew Hitchcock — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:29:15 -0000

Hello. The comments are "teh b0rken" in Safari, they don't pop down like they do in Camino. I haven't watched the video yet, but judging from the comments, I'm afraid I'm not going to like the shakiness. I am on the tail end (the long tail end? ;) ) of the MTV Generation, but I loathe their video production style.

Andrew

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Larry — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:14:36 -0000

The hand-held cameras, to me, give the video more of a feel of realism and “being right there”

That's certainly one school of thought. Everywhere I go in reality, though, I don't spin and run up to stuff and see things in black and white. Maybe it's all the Red Bull the kids are drinking today.

I still like the one camera sit and talk thing though, IMHO.

Another good book on the subject is Aim for the Heart by Al Tompkins. Disclosure, I work with the guy and think the world of him so I might be biased.

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Christopher Coulter — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:30:11 -0000

PS - Quick Whip Zoom Cuts make my teeth hurt, actually I hate Zooms period. But I guess on10 is good for the 'techie gee-whiz duh-dimwitty Valley Girl MTV headache dizzy' style. :)

Ok ok ok...Zoom Cut In and Zoom Cut Outs can work, only sfxy tho. Zoom is unnatural, imho.

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Christopher Coulter — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:56:16 -0000

And, well, if you have professionals you won’t get the conversation.

That Tablet PC Team video had horrid mumbled audio quality, can't even hardly hear it, or am I missing the point there too? There’s a place for "professional" audio. But to get "professional audio" you need professionals. Darn, and I was thinking that I'd like to hear them speak in those supposed "conversations". Silly silly me. Amateurism is NOT a virtue. And you can do professional on the cheap, just Robert Rodriguez it all up (heck you could hire someone like me, Microsoft salaries are on the cheap anyways).

The conversation is the content, a better presentation, makes for a better and bigger audience. If podcasts approach broadcast quality, and are well developed, they might get picked up and might get a development deal. If Indie productions have a good script and have the warm film look and good acting, they might get distribution. Claiming incompetence as a "conversational badge of honor" is a cop-out. You should strive to always be better, DV quality and modern nonlinear editors and sfx toolsets let you do that. Why isn't THAT the meme?

Anyways, just my advice, take or leave, wasn't trying to start a "meme war".

There’s a reason that professional video crews have two or three (or five) people on them.

Yeah, I can best 10 men. Just give me 4 cameras, and Vegas, and in no time, zing. Add in days if FCP and Avid. Vegas 7 at NAB, I hear, my life is complete. :) Speaking of NAB, anyone going to NAB, near Chicago and road tripping?

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Brandon Clinger — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:31:37 -0000

I rather channel9 become 10. This website brings a better user expirence to me than channel9 does, in Firefox!

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jaseone — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:10:06 -0000

No offence but as far as web development goes that site seems fairly basic, it is basically just a blog that has enclosures for video content so why are you touting it as a marvel in modern coding that only took a month to code? What about it is so complex that .NET helped with?

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pigeonblog — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:51:08 -0000

Mr Scoble

Not sure the pigeon angle has been fully covered.

http://pigeonblog.wordpress...

Your pal

Brian P

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Sarah Blow — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:23:20 -0000

Sorry but I have to say I am disappointed in the MS PR stuff... after such promises that the community would know about this stuff early... Their PR company just aren't performing! We hear about this stuff from MS insiders before the PR company even hear about it! So why do MS employ them!

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akhater — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:55:16 -0000

well i don't know about the others, but i'm surprised of the leap Microsoft done in just a few years. I hardely believed that http://akhater.wordpress.co... this was the first MS web page ever :) and look at it now

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Richard Brownell — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:26:29 -0000

"And, well, if you have professionals you won’t get the conversation."
http://the1upshow.1up.com

Give one or two of those episodes a listen if you have time. Each one is about half an hour. I think they once described it as a documentary style video game show and I think you'll rethink that blanket statement if you give it a watch.

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met — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:06:34 -0000

Rob don't change your style :) but if there are screenshots or something which are not clear in the video, it would be nice to have a link or a clearer one edited in later on .... :)

Or think of a different solution. Isn't that how innovations happen ?

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scobleizer — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:56:17 -0000

Chris: those who complain about Channel 9's video quality are totally missing the point (and, if let run that would totally f it up). There's a place for professional video. But to get professional video you need professionals. And, well, if you have professionals you won't get the conversation. There's a reason that professional video crews have two or three (or five) people on them. There's also a reason Channel 9 doesn't do that. If we did, we'd never have access to people's offices and we'd never have candid conversations in the style that Channel 9 does.

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Adam Kinney — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:01:29 -0000

Robb Hecht, there is a Subscribe button with the RSS icon in the top left, that provides multiple enclosure formats. For example the daily .wmv feed is - http://on10.net/TheShow/fee...