funny, all i get when i go to jaiku.com (which i'd never heard of before, btw) is this:
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Robert Scoble
· 2 years ago
Jaiku is down for me.
Chris
· 2 years ago
yep jaiku is still down here as well... suprising how you mention it and poof lol i could swear i was on it for some reason yesterday and it was ok
Mike
· 2 years ago
Has anyone else noticed that Leo's last few tweets are no longer there? I'm not questioning that they were there (I saw them too) but now they are missing from Leo's Twitter page.
Robert Scoble
· 2 years ago
Mike: Leo asked @Ev to remove his Twitter account. So, I'd expect all his Twitters to go away.
Jaiku is lame compared to Twitter. Sorry, any service that doesn't support a Web interface is lame. If I wanted that I'd just go with Google's Dodgeball.
I expect a lot of Leo's fans will follow, but I won't be one of them. I have enough to deal with just following email and Twitter.
Martin
· 2 years ago
Robert, since Twitter is getting all the press lately, I wanted to know what you think of a service I created with a couple of buddies, loopnote.com
It's not quite as simple as Twitter, but very, very similar. I feel that a lot of the talk on Twitter/Jaiku also applies to loopnote, yet it never gets mentioned anywhere :(
Robert Scoble
· 2 years ago
Martin: where were you four weeks ago when we were all getting hyped up on Twitter?
Martin
· 2 years ago
I guess I was living under a rock ;)
I looked at Twitter when it first came out and thought "hey, they're doing something very similar, but it's a little simplistic". The what are you doing thing seemed strange at the time, but I think I see its appeal now.
Robert Scoble
· 2 years ago
Hint to marketers: when something is happening and 2,500 people sign up in less than a month (which is what happened to me over on Twitter) you better speak up when the movement is happening. Not four weeks after.
Robert Scoble
· 2 years ago
Sorry, Martin, but NO ONE has told me about your service. And I have hundreds of thousands of readers per week. The fact that you weren't here screaming your head off tells me you aren't very up to date on how markets work in the Web 2.0 world.
Martin
· 2 years ago
You're right, I missed the bus on this one. I went for a little stroll, the bus came out of nowhere at an insane speed, stopped, picked everybody up, and by the time I got back from my stroll it was gone.
Lesson learned.
Robert Scoble
· 2 years ago
Martin: how could you miss it? Come on, dude, it was in the freaking Wall Street Journal.
Get onto the RSS bus. Learn to use Technorati and Google Blog Search (different than Google) and search for your name, your product name, your company name, your competitor's names.
Also search Google News for your stuff and your competitor's stuff.
The hype happened three weeks ago at the Game Developer's Conference and SXSW.
Coming in three weeks later just ain't gonna cut it. Sorry.
But, now that you're here. You gotta figure out how to get some big fish to switch. You just missed your chance with Leo, since he switched from Twitter to Jaiku. I doubt he'd switch again (he really was the start of the Twitter hype too).
So, how you gonna get a few big fish to switch from Twitter to your service?
We've got some stuff in the works that we hope people will like enough to switch away from Twitter/Jaiku, or even better, use them together with loopnote (yes, it plays nice with others). I can't give everything away here, but if you want to take it offline I could give you a little more background.
Martin
Jeremiah Owyang
· 2 years ago
Martin
Many many companies are covered in Techcrunch, only a few of them bubble up to 'discussion nodes' like on Techmeme.
Robert Scoble
· 2 years ago
Martin: I read everything on TechCrunch, but don't have time to try everything out. And, since when is talking to Mike the same thing as talking to Scoble?
Christopher Coulter
· 2 years ago
screaming your head off
Hahahahha, yup, Web 2.0 in a nutshell. Presentational layers doing simple tasks, without infrastructual frameworks, screaming until they get funded or bought. Shoot up town, take off with the money, leave town before the Sheriff catches up.
Mike
· 2 years ago
Robert, What I'm finding strange is that Leo's Twitter page is still up (despite the request to have it taken down) but the two tweets that you quoted in your original post are missing. It goes from a tweet about Fastmail (20 hours ago as of the writing of this comment) to a tweet about his account still being active (5 hours ago).
M
· 2 years ago
@mike - the explanation was in one of Leo's earlier tweets also. I remember him saying that when he attempted to delete his Twitter account, the 'delete' action only deleted his last post.
I can only speculate that he must have tried to delete the account a few times. And each time he tried, he only managed to delete whatever the latest 'tweet' was.
I'm not brave enough to actually try deleting my Twitter account to test my theory, though. LOL.
Brian Adkins
· 2 years ago
Instead of a bunch of proprietary islands of presence updates, I think an RSS like standard for updates would be better. Jaiku is crash-prone, but at least you can add a twitter feed. I suppose it's similar to gaim in that regard.
M
· 2 years ago
This just occurred to me: for those interested in the deleted 'tweets', try grabbing the RSS feed for http://twitter.com/leolaporte before the account is deleted.
You'll find the deleted 'tweets' there.
Mike Flynn
· 2 years ago
I noticed the very same thing last night and twittered it. Odd right? I did notice that Leo mentioned that when he tried to kill his twitter account it was just deleting his last post, so maybe thats the issue, but it is weird and unsettling.
David S
· 2 years ago
I think these services are a great move forward for the connected minded people... but I wonder, like the Unified Field Theory scientists are trying to crack, I'm guessing whoever creates a UNIFIED MESSAGING THEORY will be onto a winner...
I mean, skype, messenger, twitter, email etc... "one messenging service to rule them all" ?????
Tamar Weinberg
· 2 years ago
My post didn't come out right. Revised -
From Leo’s blog: “The problem is the name. I wish to heck he’d named it Tweeter, or Tooter, or anything but Twitter. Twitter is so close to TWiT that I’m afraid it’s really confusing.”
Leo has a lot of issues with names, from podcasts/netcasts to Twitter/TWiT. I’ve been using Twitter since December and I can’t say that the association with TWiT has ever crossed my mind. I think he’s truly in over his head about these naming conventions.
I tried Jaiku for all of 2 minutes, and unless it catches on (I hope it doesn’t), I’m sticking to TWiTter. (Oops.)
Brian Adkins
· 2 years ago
Robert, I'm dying to know (and I bet a lot of other people) - how the heck do you deal with 2,700+ friends on twitter? You can't possibly keep up with them - do you have a reader that scans for keywords, pick some at random? What's your technique? Inquiring mind(s) want to know.
Jeremy Toeman
· 2 years ago
Robert: I think you are getting a little carried away with the "three weeks late" comments to that guy Martin. The necessary reality check here is this: the "claimed" 100K users at Twitter is most certainly an accomplishment for a startup, and hats off to them for it. But it is utterly meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
If this market is really going to be huge (doubtful), then being a month "late" but a lot better is perfectly fine. The "update pseudo-friends about what I'm having for lunch" bus is still in the station...
Bob
· 2 years ago
I'm pissed and sick of Leo abusing his power to sway the masses when he clearly is getting paid to plug these start-ups. He plugged twitter a dozen times and now abandons it? WTF?! Screw him... he can have fun by himself in Jaikuland. Twitter Rocks, Jaiku sucks!
Bob
· 2 years ago
P.S. I'm sick of all of you so called "A Listers" get a freakin' life and get over yourselves already
Christopher Coulter
· 2 years ago
‘discussion nodes’....
Hahha, too rich, gotta love the buzzwording...
Rodney Rumford
· 2 years ago
I heard Leo on the radio this weekend talking about twitter and jaiku. It was interesting to hear his thoughts on the 2 services (he likes them both). But i think the real reason he left was confusion about TWIT and twitter being too similar in names and confusion arising.
i have to agree with is perspective. his brand was having some confusion applied to it due to the name similarities... i think he actually said he was suggested by legal counsel to send twitter a cease and decist. but he said he would not do that, he likes Evan. ;)
Rodney Rumford
Alexander Muse
· 2 years ago
We were thinking about the same thing the other day. Why choose between Twitter and Jaiku (and the next moblogging player to enter the space). What if you could 'twitter' to any or all moblogging platform? We brought the issue up at the office and the guys came up with EgorCast. The idea is to mashup Jott's voice to text service with Twitter and Jaiku.
Jott allows users to dial a predetermined number and record a 15 second message. Jott then transcribes the message and emails the transcription to your phone or email account. EgorCast provides a gateway between the messages from Jott and social mo-blogging services such as Twitter and Jaiku (or both if you want). EgorCast will also send your messages to your WordPress blog with a specific category or tag. So you don't need to pick...
Ontario Emperor
· 1 year ago
Coincidentally, I just requsted a Jaiku account. I'm hoping that I can use my Google login to access Jaiku; otherwise, I may wait until Google login support is available. I just want to give it a whirl and see what happens.
I've tried and tried and cannot get a jaiku account invitation. Tell me again, why Jaiku is going to be better than Twitter? How much better can it be if you can't get on to use it?
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Hmm? The world is turning upside down...
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Jaiku is lame compared to Twitter. Sorry, any service that doesn't support a Web interface is lame. If I wanted that I'd just go with Google's Dodgeball.
I expect a lot of Leo's fans will follow, but I won't be one of them. I have enough to deal with just following email and Twitter.
It's not quite as simple as Twitter, but very, very similar. I feel that a lot of the talk on Twitter/Jaiku also applies to loopnote, yet it never gets mentioned anywhere :(
I looked at Twitter when it first came out and thought "hey, they're doing something very similar, but it's a little simplistic". The what are you doing thing seemed strange at the time, but I think I see its appeal now.
Lesson learned.
Get onto the RSS bus. Learn to use Technorati and Google Blog Search (different than Google) and search for your name, your product name, your company name, your competitor's names.
Also search Google News for your stuff and your competitor's stuff.
The hype happened three weeks ago at the Game Developer's Conference and SXSW.
Coming in three weeks later just ain't gonna cut it. Sorry.
But, now that you're here. You gotta figure out how to get some big fish to switch. You just missed your chance with Leo, since he switched from Twitter to Jaiku. I doubt he'd switch again (he really was the start of the Twitter hype too).
So, how you gonna get a few big fish to switch from Twitter to your service?
We've got some stuff in the works that we hope people will like enough to switch away from Twitter/Jaiku, or even better, use them together with loopnote (yes, it plays nice with others). I can't give everything away here, but if you want to take it offline I could give you a little more background.
Martin
Many many companies are covered in Techcrunch, only a few of them bubble up to 'discussion nodes' like on Techmeme.
Hahahahha, yup, Web 2.0 in a nutshell. Presentational layers doing simple tasks, without infrastructual frameworks, screaming until they get funded or bought. Shoot up town, take off with the money, leave town before the Sheriff catches up.
What I'm finding strange is that Leo's Twitter page is still up (despite the request to have it taken down) but the two tweets that you quoted in your original post are missing. It goes from a tweet about Fastmail (20 hours ago as of the writing of this comment) to a tweet about his account still being active (5 hours ago).
I can only speculate that he must have tried to delete the account a few times. And each time he tried, he only managed to delete whatever the latest 'tweet' was.
I'm not brave enough to actually try deleting my Twitter account to test my theory, though. LOL.
You'll find the deleted 'tweets' there.
I mean, skype, messenger, twitter, email etc... "one messenging service to rule them all" ?????
From Leo’s blog: “The problem is the name. I wish to heck he’d named it Tweeter, or Tooter, or anything but Twitter. Twitter is so close to TWiT that I’m afraid it’s really confusing.”
Leo has a lot of issues with names, from podcasts/netcasts to Twitter/TWiT. I’ve been using Twitter since December and I can’t say that the association with TWiT has ever crossed my mind. I think he’s truly in over his head about these naming conventions.
I tried Jaiku for all of 2 minutes, and unless it catches on (I hope it doesn’t), I’m sticking to TWiTter. (Oops.)
If this market is really going to be huge (doubtful), then being a month "late" but a lot better is perfectly fine. The "update pseudo-friends about what I'm having for lunch" bus is still in the station...
Hahha, too rich, gotta love the buzzwording...
i have to agree with is perspective. his brand was having some confusion applied to it due to the name similarities... i think he actually said he was suggested by legal counsel to send twitter a cease and decist. but he said he would not do that, he likes Evan. ;)
Rodney Rumford
Jott allows users to dial a predetermined number and record a 15 second message. Jott then transcribes the message and emails the transcription to your phone or email account. EgorCast provides a gateway between the messages from Jott and social mo-blogging services such as Twitter and Jaiku (or both if you want). EgorCast will also send your messages to your WordPress blog with a specific category or tag. So you don't need to pick...
Apparently there's an update to this story that I still have to find. http://twitter.com/leolaporte is active.
Tell me again, why Jaiku is going to be better than Twitter? How much better can it be if you can't get on to use it?