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be good Robert - hope Maryam's pregnancy is going fine =)
The clean interface of Facebook, third-party add-ins and mobile functionality will keep fueling the site's growth. After linking your mobile, you can actually create content and interact with other users all through SMS.
But I got kicked off FB again today for the third time in two weeks. Apparently I misuse the notes feature, because I import my Jaiku feed there.
It's a big problem, especially as I'm advocating using FB for our business.
Apart from that, there's the big debate about the shifting boundaries between private/public as well as private/professional.
Oh, and feel free to add me to your endless list of Facebook contacts Robert :-) (i think they should be using your profile for performance testing)
And why do you think dodgeball (acquired by google) isn't in the race ?
Because of this it has better network handling than Facebook (easy to keep groups separate: friends, work, sports, family, etc). It also does some cool things with SMS which no-one else is doing. SMS works internationally, not just in the USA and Canada. I admit the site is still a bit rough but we are getting there!
Friday we are launching our Mornington Crescent game so people can get an idea of what Phuser can do. Do check it out!
it feels very like IM permanently on ...
http://thinkabdul.com/2007/05/28/plaxo-30-previ...
Love the pro's and con's: Spot on!
These services are all very interesting and all are gaining momentum.
I actually just published a rating and review of the Jaiku facebook application here. http://facereviews.com/2007/06/20/jaiku-faceboo...
And I did a rating and review of the twitter facebook application 2weeks ago: http://facereviews.com/2007/05/28/twitter-faceb...
Cheers,
Rodney Rumford
Of course, I am Generation X, and we are a cynical and private bunch.
Facebook for me is an aggregator, and it has a more reliable video uploader for me than YouTube and Googlevideo, which time out.
here is mine Scoble
http://30boxes/user/6701/ErikWeese
I've been trying to move them over, but they're all "design handicapped" and think myspace is better because you can customize it with hideous backgrounds and colors, etc.
The only thing I would change about Facebook is their updater. As it stands now, you have to write the sentence with the words {Name} is _________. I'd rather just type in a short message in present, past, or future tense like I do in Twitter.
I do like linkedin and facebook as well, but they're definitely less "important" to me at a personal level, although I guess linkedin has helped me with some work-related stuff...
For instance my tumblr reads my twitter, as does my jaiku. Now If I get facebook and have it read my tumblr (because I create original content there), and my jaiku (cause I create orginal content there). It will now double post my tweets, and thats before I even get to having facebook read my twitter feed.
We need some sort of smart feed system, that will update content only if it doesn't already have it elsewhere...
Right now engineering your own "noise" is becoming quite a task.
Robert, you have to be having the same problem... how do you deal with it?
PS missing Shea Israel on Facebook ;)
I guess there is a place for Twitter, but not sure what just yet.
Robert,
How do I get added as your friend in Twitter. Dumb me couldn't find anyway to do that.
I tried to join Facebook. Evidently I missed the first captcha. At that point it kept upping the ante of captcha difficulty.
I finally threw in the towel, too frustrated to continue.
For example Twitter has my identity, attention, location and using Twitterific I get a stream od information.
I could do the same with Plazes, Jaiku, Particls etc.
Of course FaceBook is THE biggest example of a iPALS application aggregating my flickr, twitter, plazes, kyte, presence, profile/friends etc all in one place
The only downside is that FB is a silo with no RSS out but if I could share my FB profile as an RSS feed with others then people might subscribe to it to learn what I am reading, watching, browsing etc. There is a longer post on why we would want to aggregate and data mine our friends lifestreams for Discovery but that is not for here and now.
Bottom-line we are on a path to aggregating out lifestreams. Eventually we will share these using APML and then application like Feed Readers will be able to read APML and they will help discover needs things. Until then I too will use multiple apps.
Great high speed intro and call to arms! I'm already digging in on a couple of those. Like your earlier post about Plaxo, I adopted that when it first came out and came to hate it. Jaiku and Twitter have their place, but I seriously need to recruit more friends to either one.
For Facebook, it is easy to see what you pointed out. The profile page with anything and everything is a bit busy but can be a lot fun, and it allows me to see all the things someone is into and doing at the same time.
Thanks for the quickie post and the encouragement to try Plaxo again.
What I *don't* like about any of these services is that they're all ego-based delayed communications. They are popular because they appeal to people's innate desire for attention and all communication is at either the Princess or Peasent level, you either broadcast your pearls of wisdom on your own blog or you grovel at the comments of someone elses. Basically I wonder what they're doing for basic, direct, face to face communication skills.
On the other hand for some people they seem to really be the best way for them to make friends and enjoy a social connection, whether it be because they are uncomfortable in face-to-face talks or because they are in a remote or busy location. Those are definitly the positive points.
Hi Rob,
Yes, one by one I have read each of the above entities, and enjoyed all of them! ... and have made my notes, and when I get the time I will definitely
become one of the 'new' members of 'Facebook'.
Rob, your "live" presentation this past Saturdy, June 16th, was very well presented, but a lot of the 'talk' was just a bit "over my head" ....yet, still
very interesting.
I am surprised not to find any of the 'members' in the list, above, and just wonder when that may become a reality. Wouldn't it be strange if I, the
'Novice' = " beginner" would be first of our group! I just have to sudy more
of those who 'present' before I get my comments out to "FB".
Any help you can give to me for the "FEN" connection, will be greatly appreciated.
A question, what is the meaning of the "time" indicated? Is that "JST" ? or
where does that represent?
You now have my email address and can contact me there anytime.
Thanks again,
"perky"
Just my opinion - but Mark My Words :)
I'm a blogger, and my blog is probably not interesting to anyone that doesn't know me or isn't related to me - and that's OK. I live away from a lot of friends and family and this is my 'life-line' to them.
I tried Twitter and Facebook, but they just couldn't hold me - I use Google reader to glean information from a number of sources, on a variety of topics, but I think that's about as plugged in as I would ever need to be.
Most of my friends are in the real world, and while they see the web as a great tool, most of them feel that life is meant to be lived 'outside'.
Me - I love the 'net, but there's only so much time I can spend in a chair, or looking at a phone to update my twitter.
Great reviews, however, and I'm probably going to give Plaxo another look.
Right now we are experimenting with embedding our blog (broadstuff) within facebook - a sort of conversational medium inside a social net - to see what lessons can belearned, as we think this is the potential path for "4th Generation" social nets
Their features are easily replicateable. I don't think it would take much time to add such features to any common webapp.
Might be good for a bit of a fad during dotcom boom 2.0 though.
Only facebook looks like of some real long term value
All of these apps remind me of toys. They are cool and they are fun to play with. And because they are essentially free to the user, there is no reason not to get one and have some fun.
But unless they provide some practical value at the very root level, they all run the high risk of gathering dust in the garage when the next new toy comes out...and there is SO much money involved in all of this...I know the Facebook guy turned down a cool billion from Yahoo, and he may have actually made the right choice considering Facebook's present value.
I don't mean to be Debbie Downer, but something just seems shaky about this whole picture...Maybe I'm one of the few people left in this world that really doesn't give a **** about knowing that my friends are watching TV right now...or maybe I just don't want to invest the time making the lifestyle change required to learn and use ALL of these apps...
For whatever reason, I just can't get into this Facebook/Twitter/Kyte/Jaiku/Dopplr/Plaxo/Phuser/MySpace thing...I'm fascinated by it all, but just not even close to being hooked...
Twitter is unique in my mind because it is so simple. Facebook is powerful but has the same drawback as Myspace which is that there's so much. I believe people out there are as overwhelmed as I am and are looking for simpler, lower tech solutions. I believe we are seeing regression to the mean with Twitter, moving to a platform that does one thing really well.
The truly sticky users, the ones who provide long-term revenues are the ones who don't necessarily have dozens of accounts with social media services but know what they want and need.