I'd bet good money that they ship a new iPhone. If nothing else, they'll add new colors or something.
Jon Biddell
· 1 year ago
If Apple don't release the 3G phone, who cares ? From an Australian viewpoint it's going to be a complete disaster unless telcos offer a good flat-rate unlimited data plan.
Data for cellphones in this country is so damn expensive most people rarely if ever use 3G features. For example, one of our telcos (Vodafone) sells a data plan for $19.95 a month with a whole 5Mb of data - and charges around $0.49c/kilobyte over that... That's $4900 a Gigabyte !!!
Who the hell can afford that ?
Admittedly that's at the extreme end of the spectrum, but my own telco (Telstra) is almost as bad, and there are NO CAPS on broadband usage - so those less careful can get some really REALLY nasty bills.
jon
Robert Scoble
· 1 year ago
Jon: actually if they did delay a 3G iPhone, it'd really help me out because I wouldn't have any competition for AT&T's 3G network and it'd remain fast so I could do more live Qik videos. I really expect a 3G iPhone to greatly reduce the quality of that network. Luckily here in America we don't have such nasty restrictions, otherwise my bill would really be huge (I have done about 100 hours of videos now on Qik with my cell phone at 300 kbps of 3G that'd add up quickly).
Zach Bass
· 1 year ago
I posed this same question in my blog this past week, it also got picked up by SeekingAplha.com, this past Friday. The reaction I got was surprising, in that I was labeled by some to be irresponsible to event put forth such a notion, a basher. When that couldn't be further from the truth.
I think Apple would be better not to diminish the message that WWDC should be all about, and that's a 3 prong strategy for the future direction of Mac OS X; iPhone, Macs, and the enterprise. The intro of the iPhone will dilute the overall message.
Ben Kelly
· 1 year ago
If this report is correct then I would love to know what is in those boxes that Apple is supposedly shipping around the US ATM.
If not new iPhones, then what is an "electric computer"?
Down here is South Africa the networks do provide "unlimited" internet for the Blackberry, but I would wonder if they would let a 3G and bandwidth hungry phone like the iPhone the same courtesy.
A standard data contract from the cellular operators comes with 1GB of data for about $45 on a 24 month contract including the modem. I just hope the iPhone is the start of something new for our local Vodafone subsidiary.
Robert Scoble
· 1 year ago
Like I said, my source isn't very reliable and might be pulling my leg. Probable, even. And, I'll be hanging out near an Apple store just in case something cool does come out.
Gary Arndt
· 1 year ago
1) Apple has suspended sales of the iPhone. 2) Apple has publically stated they wish to sell 10m iPhones. 3) You can't sell iPhones if you don't have iPhones.
A new iPhone is the only thing which explains taking them off the shelves. Else, they'd keep selling the old ones.
Robert Scoble
· 1 year ago
Gary: like I said, a new iPhone is probably coming Monday, but there's one in development that is having troubles getting finished. So, that's probably where these rumors are coming from. And, like I said, my source isn't very good. Of course that hasn't stopped other bloggers from printing photos that other bloggers say are fake. Apple sure has created a PR monster: we can't help ourselves!
James
· 1 year ago
Jon: The UK was in a similar situation until a year or so ago, with telcos seeing data users as a small, vulnerable captive audience they could exploit to an unlimited extent; one guy I know racked up a three figure bill checking his e-mail over the weekend, I had an "unlimited" Vodafone plan (three figures per month, in USD) which had a low usage cap and appalling performance.
Now, however, they've changed completely: it's finally occurred to them that a reasonably-priced data plan will actually sell to consumers in profitable volumes — and several of them introducing caps on the daily cost of pay-as-you-go plans for data as well. One telco, Three, is even bundling free Slingboxes and promoting video streaming to their handsets as part of the $20/month (10Gb/month) pack! I imagine Australia will go the same route quite soon.
Between the level of expectation built up and the way the existing iPhones have been cleared off the shelves now, there MUST be some form of new iPhone coming on Monday. It wouldn't surprise me if this just switched to 3G (a replacement baseband), with a more dramatic change (better video capabilities, higher resolution etc) coming later as "iPhone 2".
jofarnold
· 1 year ago
You might be right, Robert, about at least *one* phone getting delayed. Reuters are speculating about there being an entry-level version of the phone - and many have talked about the iPhone nano for a while. Perhaps it's that phone which is suffering the delays? Damn them and their PR. I really don't get on well with Apple hardware and software and yet here I am whipped into a frenzy by them yet again. How do they do it? I KNOW I'm going to hate the thing when I actually use it, but I can't help myself. Very much looking forward to tomorrow.
Tim F.
· 1 year ago
1. The highly questionable Barron's report is about an order reduction and slowed production (10.5 million by 4Q instead of 12.5 end of 3Q), not an inability to produce nor a delay in launch
2. Infineon produces the mobile communications transceiver not ARM processors -- so your rumor isn't linked at all to this questionable report (which is still very positive for Apple unless you have absurd expectations).
3. Your "source" can't even correctly identify hardware in existing hardware -- no need to claim he's compartmentalized from future products.
4. You yourself admit your sources suck and have no confidence in them or your own reporting.
5. You just added to the noise. No surprise there.
Lasha
· 1 year ago
What's funny about these telcos is that they're all switching to unlimited data plans (or the likes), and Internet providers are looking to cap the networks with the same crap that mobile companies are moving away from.
On top of that, it seems highly probable for a 3G iPhone to at least be announced at tomorrow's WWDC. I'll be waiting anxiously to see what happens and rush to the Apple store if anything.
The 3G network very well may take a beating because of the iPhone so I hope AT&T is prepping up really well. I just wish the iPhone was opened up a little bit more so I can connect it to my MacBook Pro and use it as a darn modem!
c
· 1 year ago
Your sources are bullshit.
Alex Hammer
· 1 year ago
Great post (as usual). Very informative. For people like me who are not that technologically knowledgeable about the mobile space, a few words in regard to exactly what 3G is and why I've been hearing it is so important (what it means in the evolution, what new capabilities or features etc.) would be helpful. I believe that I read that there are more cell phones (or phones in general) in use in the world than PC's . That is interesting.
In regard to Friendfeed breaking news earlier than TechMeme, that is interesting as well. I know with the China earthquake, Robert's focus on Twitter being the newsbreaker. In general, is the news that is being broken (or arriving early) on Friendfeed arriving from Twitter (or some other outside source from Friendfeed), or is it being inputed directly into Friendfeed?
Mujibur
· 1 year ago
Is this the same source, related to your wife I believe, who told you a Mac tablet was imminent?
It's also highly misleading to say that the iPhone has a three-core ARM.
It has three separate ARM cores on board - they're not part of the same CPU. Little screwups like this continue to demonstrate your technical incompetence.
The sad truth is that your blog is a business. What's worse is that you and your pals use "Wag the Dog" techniques like fake arguments/dustups to generate page views. It's pathetic and indicative that the A-list blogging community has taken on the worst characteristics of the cheapest forms of media.
Omar G.
· 1 year ago
I think they could get away with not shipping a new iPhone on Monday, but they would have to unveil the phone's details, at least.
I could even see them setting a ship date for the 1-year anniversary of iPhone 1.0 or pushing into July/August, as long as they announce the specs, pricing and other details at WWDC.
So much of their developer efforts have been around the iPhone SDK and I know of several software developers who are stuck in neutral with products they've been working on specifically for 3G iPhone. It would be a huge disappointment if, failing having the phone in stores, they didn't at least give us a date and price.
Greg
· 1 year ago
"And, like I said, my source isn’t very good."
Then what's the point? That line might have been a good one to include in the first paragraph.
I tend to also believe there's a high-ish likelihood that Apple is working on one than more model for release this year, or certainly at least they're working on more than one model at a time (regardless of release timeframes).
Al Degutis
· 1 year ago
I think this post was difficult to read with so many side comments in parenthesis, right in the middle of a thought.
Robert Scoble
· 1 year ago
Greg: cause it's a datapoint worth considering. Engadget is saying that the phone tomorrow will have the same processor as the original iPhone. So, this tells me there indeed are two different phones being worked on. The one my source worked on will come out later this year. Who cares anyway. Tomorrow we'll all know the truth.
Tim F.
· 1 year ago
"Who cares anyway."
You do.
Christopher Coulter
· 1 year ago
Umm, Snow Leopard 10.6 too, plus 3rd party iPhone applications, with 10.5.4 in 2 weeks or so. But I thought the touch-screen mini-tablet was going to hit, but it might all be 10.6, 3G and way way cheaper subbed iPhones.
The BIG RUMOR be if they are finally gonna bless OS X on PCs (10.6 being Intel only), so no need for Hackintoshing, the whole lack of action on the Psystar being worth a ponder. So 10.6 and OS X on PCs? That news is way bigger than simple iPhone refreshes.
Hasbro
· 1 year ago
This post is a great demonstration of the problem with blogging. You simply do not quote your sources and say they are unreliable. It mqke your blog look bad and it pisses off your sources.
You 'bloggers' like to bash the so called Old Media but the Old Media would never report something and the say... "oh by the way what we just reported is complete BS because our sources are crap'
Welcome to amateur hour.
Andy Mesa
· 1 year ago
Your source says it huh? I can't wait the 18 hours it'll take to see you fall flat on your face.
Sam Davyson
· 1 year ago
Last time there was a live Apple event you commented about how much you liked MacRumor's coverage. Why don't you try them again...?
JS
· 1 year ago
I hope your source is wrong because I'm really looking forward to getting an iphone 3G this month.
Nuance Comm.
· 1 year ago
With all eyes in the mobile world on Apple this week I thought I thought the time was right to talk about what we believe is the best way to conduct a mobile web search on a device like the iPhone…a device with a rich, full screen, touchscreen only. Namely: Voice search. You say it, our speech recognition (running on a server) produces text, the text automatically dumps into the search engine that’s the subscriber’s choice (Google, AOL, MSN, etc.), the search engine returns results. Or via voice, search for any content from your local iTunes playlists.
Using the Apple developer kit, we’ve been hard at work developing impressive technology that make the iPhones capabilities even more powerful. Voice search. Song search and selection. At the touch of a button and simply by saying the word. Over the next few days – as the excitement mounts for the WWDC – we’ll be sharing more and more details here on our blog. For now though, I think all of us should sit back, relax and enjoy the show.
Of course, we believe the most powerful use of speech would be running on the iPhone itself (vs a remote server) and made available to the developer community via iPhone’s SDK APIs.
pbx
· 1 year ago
we had predicted that Apple was about to revolutionize video calling... a source told us this was coming. we think it still is but later. video calling requires hardware, namely a video camera, front-end. apple didn't pull this off.
also, unrelated, but a bit concerning... what's going on with Steve Jobs, this guy is way to skinny, i sure hope he is well. Apple needs him, tech needs him, we need him!
Web Designer
· 1 year ago
Great post. Useful sources...
buzzcowboy
· 1 year ago
I was an early adopter iPhone user myself (tho' I'd heard the price drop rumors and waited until that happened), and although they're not adding big bells and whistles to this second-gen model I do think that faster connections, more storage and a proper GPS is enough for some folks to upgrade. Truthfully, all I do with the thing is use it as an iPod when I travel or forget my nano at the gym, make phone calls, Yelp new restaurants when I'm on a business trip and standing outside one wondering if I should eat there, and find myself when lost (often). That being said, doing these things better or faster or with more storage isn't enough of a reason for me personally to ditch a perfectly good phone - especially since it seems likely that the third-gen is already in progress.
Plus, I break things. A lot. (So, best to wait until I break this one and the third-gen is out.)
The addition of a video camera might have sent me to the upgrade camp... looking forward to that someday.
On the plus side, a faster connection does mean that people can easily manage their CafePress shops on-the-fly from remote locations... http://blog.cafepress.com/?p=50
Which is good for the headline-driven tee purveyor. ;)
fnfzone
· 1 year ago
Well, Technology always come true. It may today or tomorrow. So we can see this soon.
cem ceilsoy
· 1 year ago
I really don’t get on well with Apple hardware and software and yet here I am whipped into a frenzy by them yet again.
bydavid
· 1 year ago
I hope your source is wrong because I’m really looking forward to getting an iphone 3G
Dshot
· 1 year ago
I can't wait this is going to be great and it's only 48hrs away! What other Phone in the world makes people wrap around building for hours. They skip school, call in sick for work. They should make every day that a new Iphone comes out a holiday. Everyone wants to complain about the #1 phone in world. I say. Screw the Haters. The Iphone kicks butt... Nothing in the world is perfect. But there's so many Pro's to the Iphone that it makes people come out in droves! Droves! Rock on Iphone!! Show some Iphone Luv...!!!
Yatin Bhatt
· 1 year ago
Hi Scobleizer,
I have a weird need. I had a topic on the Apple forum regarding iPhone 3G stabilization issues, battery life and so on.
Over last 3 days it turned into some discussions directly between me and Apple site moderators. They deleted 4-5 posts which highlighted some direct facts and most importantly, one moderator's comments that "You are of course right in that Apple botched this project entirely"
Now, Apple moderators made my access Read-only, so no freedom to speak.
I need some medium to publish the screen shots which I took before they were wiped off from the site ... If you want to see them before helping to the people, I would be fine.
Thanks
Colin
· 1 year ago
The day came, and went... now even your grandma knows what an iphone is : )
telefondinleme
· 5 months ago
i dont like it :(
Allan Cass
· 1 year ago
Iphone ROCKS! I love it!
dryskin
· 1 year ago
i have iphone too, and i like to use (of course 3g) it is perfect
telefon dinleme
· 1 year ago
Iphone is the king of the cellular comminication technology.
Dinleme Cihazi
· 1 year ago
Nothing can be better then an I phone...Thants for sure..
webmaster
· 1 year ago
iphone? it is my dream maybe later i can buy..
dinleme cihazları
· 11 months ago
Apple release new iphone series very soon i think. Lets wait and see...
facial skin
· 11 months ago
in my country (turkey) now we use 3G tech. so i bought an iphoen it is realyy really awesome!
PowerProNet
· 10 months ago
Nothing can be better then an I phone…Thants for sure..
All Comments
Data for cellphones in this country is so damn expensive most people rarely if ever use 3G features. For example, one of our telcos (Vodafone) sells a data plan for $19.95 a month with a whole 5Mb of data - and charges around $0.49c/kilobyte over that... That's $4900 a Gigabyte !!!
Who the hell can afford that ?
Admittedly that's at the extreme end of the spectrum, but my own telco (Telstra) is almost as bad, and there are NO CAPS on broadband usage - so those less careful can get some really REALLY nasty bills.
jon
I think Apple would be better not to diminish the message that WWDC should be all about, and that's a 3 prong strategy for the future direction of Mac OS X; iPhone, Macs, and the enterprise. The intro of the iPhone will dilute the overall message.
If not new iPhones, then what is an "electric computer"?
Down here is South Africa the networks do provide "unlimited" internet for the Blackberry, but I would wonder if they would let a 3G and bandwidth hungry phone like the iPhone the same courtesy.
A standard data contract from the cellular operators comes with 1GB of data for about $45 on a 24 month contract including the modem. I just hope the iPhone is the start of something new for our local Vodafone subsidiary.
2) Apple has publically stated they wish to sell 10m iPhones.
3) You can't sell iPhones if you don't have iPhones.
A new iPhone is the only thing which explains taking them off the shelves. Else, they'd keep selling the old ones.
Now, however, they've changed completely: it's finally occurred to them that a reasonably-priced data plan will actually sell to consumers in profitable volumes — and several of them introducing caps on the daily cost of pay-as-you-go plans for data as well. One telco, Three, is even bundling free Slingboxes and promoting video streaming to their handsets as part of the $20/month (10Gb/month) pack! I imagine Australia will go the same route quite soon.
Between the level of expectation built up and the way the existing iPhones have been cleared off the shelves now, there MUST be some form of new iPhone coming on Monday. It wouldn't surprise me if this just switched to 3G (a replacement baseband), with a more dramatic change (better video capabilities, higher resolution etc) coming later as "iPhone 2".
Damn them and their PR. I really don't get on well with Apple hardware and software and yet here I am whipped into a frenzy by them yet again. How do they do it? I KNOW I'm going to hate the thing when I actually use it, but I can't help myself. Very much looking forward to tomorrow.
2. Infineon produces the mobile communications transceiver not ARM processors -- so your rumor isn't linked at all to this questionable report (which is still very positive for Apple unless you have absurd expectations).
3. Your "source" can't even correctly identify hardware in existing hardware -- no need to claim he's compartmentalized from future products.
4. You yourself admit your sources suck and have no confidence in them or your own reporting.
5. You just added to the noise. No surprise there.
On top of that, it seems highly probable for a 3G iPhone to at least be announced at tomorrow's WWDC. I'll be waiting anxiously to see what happens and rush to the Apple store if anything.
The 3G network very well may take a beating because of the iPhone so I hope AT&T is prepping up really well. I just wish the iPhone was opened up a little bit more so I can connect it to my MacBook Pro and use it as a darn modem!
In regard to Friendfeed breaking news earlier than TechMeme, that is interesting as well. I know with the China earthquake, Robert's focus on Twitter being the newsbreaker. In general, is the news that is being broken (or arriving early) on Friendfeed arriving from Twitter (or some other outside source from Friendfeed), or is it being inputed directly into Friendfeed?
It's also highly misleading to say that the iPhone has a three-core ARM.
It has three separate ARM cores on board - they're not part of the same CPU. Little screwups like this continue to demonstrate your technical incompetence.
The sad truth is that your blog is a business. What's worse is that you and your pals use "Wag the Dog" techniques like fake arguments/dustups to generate page views. It's pathetic and indicative that the A-list blogging community has taken on the worst characteristics of the cheapest forms of media.
I could even see them setting a ship date for the 1-year anniversary of iPhone 1.0 or pushing into July/August, as long as they announce the specs, pricing and other details at WWDC.
So much of their developer efforts have been around the iPhone SDK and I know of several software developers who are stuck in neutral with products they've been working on specifically for 3G iPhone. It would be a huge disappointment if, failing having the phone in stores, they didn't at least give us a date and price.
Then what's the point? That line might have been a good one to include in the first paragraph.
I tend to also believe there's a high-ish likelihood that Apple is working on one than more model for release this year, or certainly at least they're working on more than one model at a time (regardless of release timeframes).
You do.
The BIG RUMOR be if they are finally gonna bless OS X on PCs (10.6 being Intel only), so no need for Hackintoshing, the whole lack of action on the Psystar being worth a ponder. So 10.6 and OS X on PCs? That news is way bigger than simple iPhone refreshes.
You 'bloggers' like to bash the so called Old Media but the Old Media would never report something and the say... "oh by the way what we just reported is complete BS because our sources are crap'
Welcome to amateur hour.
Using the Apple developer kit, we’ve been hard at work developing impressive technology that make the iPhones capabilities even more powerful. Voice search. Song search and selection. At the touch of a button and simply by saying the word. Over the next few days – as the excitement mounts for the WWDC – we’ll be sharing more and more details here on our blog. For now though, I think all of us should sit back, relax and enjoy the show.
Of course, we believe the most powerful use of speech would be running on the iPhone itself (vs a remote server) and made available to the developer community via iPhone’s SDK APIs.
also, unrelated, but a bit concerning... what's going on with Steve Jobs, this guy is way to skinny, i sure hope he is well. Apple needs him, tech needs him, we need him!
Plus, I break things. A lot. (So, best to wait until I break this one and the third-gen is out.)
The addition of a video camera might have sent me to the upgrade camp... looking forward to that someday.
On the plus side, a faster connection does mean that people can easily manage their CafePress shops on-the-fly from remote locations... http://blog.cafepress.com/?p=50
Which is good for the headline-driven tee purveyor. ;)
I have a weird need. I had a topic on the Apple forum regarding iPhone 3G stabilization issues, battery life and so on.
Over last 3 days it turned into some discussions directly between me and Apple site moderators. They deleted 4-5 posts which highlighted some direct facts and most importantly, one moderator's comments that "You are of course right in that Apple botched this project entirely"
Now, Apple moderators made my access Read-only, so no freedom to speak.
I need some medium to publish the screen shots which I took before they were wiped off from the site ... If you want to see them before helping to the people, I would be fine.
Thanks