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Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

Bill — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:59:18 -0000

Good on you Patricia.
You did what you needed to do.
Get rid of that cancer in your midst.
You did not instruct illegal tactics.
You would not instruct illegal tactics.
But these simple soles are making you pay anyway.
The real offender is the political hack bringing these bogus charges against you.
Hold your head high. You are a dignified woman.
Most of the people writing here have no concept of the term.
I wish only the best.

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

mighetto — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:25:48 -0000

Dunn shouldn't have been allowed on the Board given her cancer history, period. Who provides HP's Director's and Officer's insurance? Seriously, you can just about predict unethical behavior. So Dunn - knowing she needs money for cancer treatment - sells HP social security numbers to the highest bidder, which are then used in identity fraud. How does that kind of thing get by the D&O insurance guy? She has had at least two publically disclosed cancer bouts. Perhaps her unethical behavior was displayed during those as well. What a Frankinstine monster. Just the kind of situation where clones might be created to replace cancerous Dunn body parts. Happy Halloween.

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

Sarah — Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:58:59 -0000

Those of you who have given your "at-a-boys" for Robert's apology are missing the point. He did nothing wrong by using the word cancer. def: "a pernicious spreading of evil." The American Heritage, Dell Pub Co., Inc, NY, 1981.

Can you get back to the issue please.

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

Marvin Zinn — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:29:37 -0000

I don't know why, but there is something wrong in parts of the news reports about Patricia Dunn. I believe there is an accusation for which she is not guilty. I never met her and knew nothing about her before this, but I refuse to believe news reports in many things I can see, and this one I smell fishy.

I'd send this message to her if I knew the address, but she probably wouldn't be able to read it for so many others anyway.

marvin

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

TAG — Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:22:12 -0000

Abe Lasso,
What's so funny ? This blog and except from it is first result in Google search for "Robert Scoble"

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I'm feeling Lucky on Google search become not so lucky.

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

Abe Lasso — Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:13:53 -0000

"Can you update http://scoble.weblogs.com/ website to make it clear you are not MS person anymore ? Migrate all postings from weblogs.com to this one (and make sure to make backup). If you need help on setting up redirect pages - I can help."

LOL.

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

Steve Kaschimer — Sun, 17 Sep 2006 01:13:19 -0000

I think people are too touchy these days about being politically correct. You called it like you saw it. You shouldn't have to apologize to anyone.

It's like if you called her the wart on HPs and wart-suffering people getting mad. Or calling her the arm that needs to be amputated and having amputees angry at you.

You were going for a metaphor that we all understand, and from the looks of the other comments received, we got it.

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

Robert Scoble — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:34:16 -0000

TAG: I no longer have access to that blog. Sorry. It's pretty clear that I haven't published to that in more than a year.

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

raincoaster — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 19:50:16 -0000

You were being metaphorical, and you were within the bounds of good taste. As a cancer survivor myself, I think someone was playing the "get out of jail free" card here.

It is your right to apologize for "being overly hurtful and personal" with your word choice, but I don't see that you were personal (you didn't even know she had cancer), and I'd be very surprised indeed if she were actually hurt by this. She's a tough corporate warrior, as she's amply demonstrated, and not a fragile hothouse blossom to wither at the slightest chill.

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

Ken Nelson — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 19:33:23 -0000

The description as initally rendered was accurate. Don't dilute your argument by washing it in the politically correct cesspit. Being overly sensitive is not being sensitive at all.

-k-

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

bananasfk — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 19:21:18 -0000

I disagree 'cancer' is an apt description of what hp has/had. Dont apologise.

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

TAG — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 18:51:50 -0000

Yes. You went too far - you have posted about this matter so much like you never did for any other topic.

Probably this is becouse you was unhappy that board member was sharing information with folks like you and was punished for this. You become scared that somebody will get list of phone-numbers you have called or somebody else has called. This seems to be easy as your phone-number is on the this page.

P.S> Can you update http://scoble.weblogs.com/ website to make it clear you are not MS person anymore ? Migrate all postings from weblogs.com to this one (and make sure to make backup). If you need help on setting up redirect pages - I can help.

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

joe — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 15:53:03 -0000

In other news, that's not funny - my brother died that way.
http://www.theonion.com/con...

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

MJ — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 13:07:05 -0000

Gaffe? Where's the problem? Was she a nasty piece of work whose continued presence was eating a once-great company from inside, slowly killing i? Seems an apt metaphor.
Let's use the words "infected ingrown hair", "inflamed ingrown toenail", "canker", "pustule", "enraged boil", "necrotic wound", "weeping sore".
Now I'm sure she's had some of these ailments....why do we STILL hide behind the C-word?

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

Dan — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 12:59:56 -0000

Good for you Robert, dealing with your mistake, honestly, quickly, and everyone moves forward.

What an example that is for so many.

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

WindowsObserver — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:57:48 -0000

Robert,

You might not have been able to know she was a cancer survisor but as soon as you found out you did this post and apologized. To me that is what matters most - you regcognized the gaff and dealt with it head on.

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

HowardCronin — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:46:01 -0000

Like some others have alluded to -- if you DIDN'T know she had cancer, it wouldn't be an issue. However, it's an apt metaphor... APT, I tell you! Maybe you could say "festering boil"? But only if she's never actually HAD a festering boil...

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

Carolus.Holman — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:04:55 -0000

Your metaphor was spot on, she is a wretched human, who can't be trusted. She has rolled out her tentacles to ensnare you into apologizing to her. Why do I care that she survived cancer, millions of people survive cancer and aren't as vicious and sneaky as her. She gives cancer survivors a bad name, and apologizing to her, well that's your choice.

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

paul — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:28:55 -0000

Now she is going to have to appear before the Congressional Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations along with all the pretexting slimeballs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006...

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

Russ Henry — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:24:42 -0000

I have to remember what was told to me by a great sage of old.

There are three kinds of people.
“Great people talk about ideals.
Average people talk about things.
Small people talk about other people.”

Turning the mirror is a good thing. I share this with others in the hope that they remind me of it when I stray below average. ; )

Only one guy was perfect and look what they did to him.

You are absolutly right, the end does not justify the means and she should leave over that action. Keep up the great work. I am very excited by all of the “ideals” you continue to shed light upon.

Be careful sharing this quote with others, they will hold you to the letter when you stray.
One last word. “Mercy” ? Given or received. ; )

Again, keep up the vision. Your blog and channel 9 video work is “Great”.

regards,
Russ
"Knowledge is best served as a shared resource!". reh 2000

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

jonezy — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:00:39 -0000

It's tough being in your position let's not forget. everything you say and how you say it get's scrutinized down to the deteail. It's a tough call to decide to do what you did, and for that I think you should be commended

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

morgan — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 05:35:53 -0000

If you feel you went too far then it is right that you should apolgise however I don't think you went to far. She was attacking HP just as a cancer attacks a human body. It is unfortunate that she has had cancer also however as you did not know you cannot really be blamed. Personally I think you are apologising for something you have no need to apologise for. She is the guilty party here, not you.

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

Dawn — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 05:30:17 -0000

My husband recently died from skin cancer, and I'm currently fighting breast cancer myself, and I have to say that I personally don't feel that any "hurt" on Dunn's part is justified by the comment. But I think it shows class that you apologized anyway.

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

Steve Newson — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 05:20:39 -0000

I never took anything you wrote about this scandal as anything other than an attack on the actions, not the person. I can see, however, why what you wrote nagged at you and I applaud what you have written here. I know you didn't write this to make this point, but I do think it shows that you are at heart a good person. And isn't this one of the truly positive points about blogging compared to old media - that it allows the essential humanity of the writer to come through.

As my wife ofte says to me "they nailed the last perfect person to a cross". We all make what we think of as mistakes, but how we deal with those mistakes tells us a lot about a person.

Re: I’m sorry to Patricia Dunn

topgold — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 05:11:44 -0000

An invasion of personal privacy hurts, perhaps as much as the pain of an invasive disease. I'm not a cancer survivor but I have felt the pain of having my personal privacy violated, my personal emails spawned into the reading files of bureaucrats and some of my private photos photocopied and passed around for laughs. Most of these data were compromised through pretexting.

It takes a long time to recover from cancer. And it took me a long time to recover from an invasion of my personal life. In my case, it meant moving out of the country away and living through some of the darkest days I have ever survived.

Perhaps Pattie Dunn does not know the pain she has caused when she authorised the tactics used to chase down leakers. I doubt she wants those tactics used on herself. Certainly the Attorney General doesn't want that to happen and it's good the matter is being investigated to weed out the miscreants.