while i agree with everyting you said, i just have one thing to ask you.
it's off the grid camp, why are you on the grid blogging, reading apple's stock price, and valleywag?
i know it's hard scoble, but i went to jamacia for 2 weeks last year with no internet and i handled it fine. please try and do the same, you'll come to the realization that a lot of the stuff you care about is pointless.
Robert Scoble
· 3 years ago
You have no idea. I'll write about being off the grid in the next post. It's really funny. There are about nine off the gridders just sitting here on the front porch of the Chico Hot Springs blogging and stuff.
Stefan Constantinescu
· 3 years ago
i'm surprised you haven't talked about how much smack apple has talked about microsoft.
they spent a good chunk of their keynote bashing vista, if i were a mac developer i would have screamed at jobs to remember what he said at macworld boston 97.
Robert Scoble
· 3 years ago
Stefan: I think the smack talk will backfire. Ever remember Scott McNealy? He was fired cause he didn't ship new products and always was talking smack about Microsoft.
Nick Douglas
· 3 years ago
We forgive you, Scoble. Milk and cookies for all!
(I thought McNealy was fired for never firing anyone.)
Robert Scoble
· 3 years ago
Nick: maybe so, but I remember Scott always talked smack and never showed us cool new stuff.
I think Steve is spending too much time trying to run Disney.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Umm...it's a Developer Conference. I'm stumped as to why the media, marketers, evangelists, and other non-engineering types have come expect announcements about consumer products at any Apple event.
Robert Scoble
· 3 years ago
Anonymous: cause we expect Steve to do something cool everytime he's on stage.
Scoble, so when he doesn't that means he's lost his magic? Look, I'm sure you're very pissed at your brother for making you look like a fool, but don't it out on Jobs. And as for talking smack and not delivering. I rather doubt Apple has anything to worry about there. But as for Vista ever delivering? Well, that's another story. Let's wait and see what shakes out when Leopard is out and Vista is barely through the birth canal.
LayZ
· 3 years ago
and in other news... MS drops Virtual PC Software for Macs.
Robert Scoble
· 3 years ago
It wasn't my brother. I had multiple sources either way. But, yeah, saw that. Well, have fun, I'm off to the pool. See ya tomorrow.
mike
· 3 years ago
Don't you always overhype everything you talk about? Like the boy who cried wolf, eventually...
Michael
· 3 years ago
Since when does Apple announce iPods at WWDC anyway?
Mike
· 3 years ago
This is WWDC, a DEVELOPER conference. Apple doesn't announce consumer products like the iPod at WWDC. This was all about the Mac and Leopard has some major new features. Time Machine is one of the most important advances. Most people don't make backups, so Time Machine makes it automatic and lets you revert to any previous version or undo a big mistake. There's also a lot of other cool stuff in Leopard.
sabadash
· 3 years ago
It doesn't make sense to roil the market in the face of the worry about financial restatements.
Wait a bit. Time will come when the market will jump like a hungry coyote.
Then there'll be just one last thing.
"-"
sam
· 3 years ago
If anything's consumed Steve's attention in the past few years, it's been the Apple Stores.
I wasn't expecting any major hardware releases, seeing as how it was a fairly low profile keynote at WWDC. But I was seriously disappointed that the Leopard demo wasn't cooler. And since they did announce new hardware, I'm disappointed that the Mac Pro doesn't have a new enclosure -- though I've always liked the cheese grater.
Etan
· 3 years ago
I have to agree with Mike. This is WWDC, NOT Macworld. Nothing has changed and Apple is not disappointing at all. A couple years back Apple chose to do a live broadcast of the Keynote for WWDC at the Apple Store in SoHo (NYC) and I went with some friends. It was standing room only, to the back of the store! But in the end, the crowd was pretty disappointed. After all, they wanted stuff for them, not dev previews of api's they knew nothing about.
Same thing here. If you read any of the indie mac devs who are there, in between excusing the lack of blogging due to NDA, they are all really psyched. In fact, I would argue that Steve showed off some really crowd pleasing stuff yesterday and every normal person I showed the Time Machine and iChat stuff to was incredibly impressed.
The real story I thought was not what Apple didn't announce or show yesterday, but rather how Jobs let his guys do most of the talking...
Adding insult to injury, we didn't get to hear about the really cool stuff that might be in Leopard, because that's still "Top Secret" now. What's up with that? Instead we got a demo of a backup program that mostly doesn't crash, and an illustration of how Mail will support stationery... and uh, To-Do lists...
The whole thing was surreal. "People spend hours on Photo Booth," Jobs said at one point. Great. I wanted to hear about virtualization, and instead I'm about to get a tour of 32 new Photo Booth effects... someone kill me, pleeeeeease...
And who spends hours on Photo Booth? Narcissus himself got tired of it after 20 minutes and switched to Garageband.
Jobs introduced one feature by saying, "This is a big one. We call it: Spaces."
And the crowd erupts into cheers and applause. WOOO!!! YEAHHH!!!
Nobody knows what "Spaces" is yet, he hasn't even begun to describe it, you can't tell what it might be from the logo, and the crowd has gone NUTS.
On the bright side, at least I did not camp out in front of the Apple Store. :-)
Robert, I think you could be right about the back-to-school timing thing. Merom's not even supposed to be available until the end of the month...?
Or look at what the stock price is doing. Maybe someone needs to pick up a few shares at $60, so they can sell them at $85 in January. Gotta pay for all those new Apple-branded Christmas presents... ;-)
Goebbels
· 3 years ago
"And the crowd erupts into cheers and applause. WOOO!!! YEAHHH!!!
Nobody knows what “Spaces” is yet, he hasn’t even begun to describe it, you can’t tell what it might be from the logo, and the crowd has gone NUTS."
everyone knew it was virtual desktops and they whoo-hooed because everyone that did so was used to it from Linux and had expected it for years.
Scoble, whoever these alleged sources are (are they the same as your iTablet sources) are completely wrong. There were plenty of rumors that were credible and 100% correct: Pro Mac, XServe, demo, that's it. Other correct rumors would be: nano by the end of the month, Merom supported in the MacBooks and/or iMac and/or Mini within the next two months. The "Video" iPod in November. That's credible rumor. Your hype was just silliness however many sources you claim.
Goebbels
· 3 years ago
And since when do Board Members run companies? Jobs is barely doing anything for Disney... Ratatouille is all but in the can, and Lassiter is handling Disney/Pixar animation.
Jobs is busy with the Movie Store, retail, and finalizing the next iPod.
Tim
· 3 years ago
Hey - I don't know about you, but Apple's announcements of CalDAV support and membership in the Calendaring & Scheduling Consortium is pretty exciting news! Anything that futhers calendar interoperability (and let's face it, most geeks have a pretty heavy work/family calendar quotient) is exciting news, to me.
Michael Markman
· 3 years ago
One of the big held back features was Safari. Apple's web browser is looking a little long in the tooth and its been lapped by other browsers, including . Whichever you picked is likely to have a major upgrade before Leopard ships. Which means Apple will have even more catch-up to do. And more opportunity to astound if they leap ahead.
Michael Markman
· 3 years ago
note: the space after 'including' above is intentionally left blank. Insert your favorite browser.
rochskier
· 3 years ago
Eh, I'm mostly disappointed that the Mac Pro tower systems don't have more options right out of the box. Nvidia 7300 series GPUs aren't going to impress most informed buyers.
On the other hand, I've been a Windows-only guy for the past 11 years, and I have to say I am incredibly unimpressed with Vista. I just picked up a MacBook with Tiger because Apple appears dedicated to holding the line on OS bloat (versus MS) and implementing a truly modern filesystem.
John C. Welch
· 3 years ago
Oh lord Robert. This is what I loved about your little dance. It was all about stuff that was never going to be at a WWDC. "Just wait, you'll see, I have SOURCES, and then you'll know"
Dude, all your implications and inferences were so GLORIOUSLY clueless, and everyone with half a brain working KNEW they was, and yet, you just couldn't not do it. You just had to wave your "I'm more connected than you are" dick around, and it totally got cut off. I just feel bad that perhaps your son bought into your BS and thought that a WWDC was Macworld.
Maybe you'll learn from this, but somehow i doubt it. Gotta work that Mac user manipulation thing since you don't have a direct line from Microsoft anymore.
Christopher Coulter
· 3 years ago
It's WWDC...nothing of import in the consumer space ever gets tagged, just the Cult of Mac flags it all up beyond reason. Robert's an Evangelist, his sources are from the 'Wishful Thinking' Dept. Goto 10.
I think the smack talk will backfire.
Smack talk, itself doesn't kill. Smack without delivery does. But in general, smack is of poor form. Just make your product the best it can be, and if it is truly the best, it will be ovbious, and others or rather the market can do the smacking for you. Problem with Apple, is that no matter how good their OS is, they won't ever get serious Fortune 1000 marketshare.
meh
· 3 years ago
Well, my 2 cents. ITS A FRIGGIN DEVELOPER CONFERENCE. Get over it. This is not a consumer conference. As said before, above and I am sure in the following post, which I got tired of reading, this conference was for developers to get their hands on Leopard's API. Why? So, they can develop new products and make their current ones compatible with Leopard. Don't be disappointed in this conference, just look at what it's called WWDC (Worldwide DEVELOPERS Conference). Besides, Steve did say to be on the look out in the following week for more to come. All praises to the MIGHTY STEVE JOBS!
Dirk Cleenwerck
· 3 years ago
As a developer i'm happy about the inclusion of DTrace in Mac OSX Leopard (http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/xcode.html) I've seen DTrace demonstrated by Sun on OpenSolaris at FOSDEM 2006, and I thought it was pretty awesome. I'm surprised that since this was a developer conference, this feature didn't get more attention in the media, because i'd call it big news for developers.
Pete Prodoehl
· 3 years ago
As far as Apple and Mr. Jobs, I think it's about expectations. I honestly forgot the WWDC was going on (I've been busy) so when I noticed a podcast about it, I gave it a listen, and was pleasantly surprised by some of the announcements. I had managed to avoid the hype without even trying, and got a nice preview of a few interesting technologies coming from Apple. Maybe that's the way to do it.
Karim
· 3 years ago
Nvidia 7300 series GPUs aren’t going to impress most informed buyers.
I also noticed they compared a nVidia 7300 Mac Pro to a Dell with an nVidia Quadro. Sort of like comparing "Apple's" to oranges... ;-)
just picked up a MacBook with Tiger because Apple appears dedicated to holding the line on OS bloat (versus MS) and implementing a truly modern filesystem.
Did you mean "filesystem" literally? NTFS is one place where I think Microsoft's clearly superior. HFS is still trying to catch up to NTFS; Apple just added access control lists to HFS+ in OS 10.4 :-) (It is one of those tiny little things Cupertino copied from Redmond and you never hear about...) NTFS is a thing of beauty. Scales nicely when you throw multiple CPUs at it. Unfortunately things like that are rarely selling points in an OS....
"OS bloat" really doesn't bother me, and in any event, it hardly seems fair to say that Apple is "holding the line" on OS bloat when all they did on Monday is describe how much more bloated Leopard is going to be than Tiger. ;-) Performance matters, though, and I've been pleasantly surprised by Vista's performance on a MacBook...
Rick Schaut
· 3 years ago
The funniest thing about the keynote came with the announcment about Leapoard's features. After the obligatory Microsoft bashing about "copying," what was Leopard's #1 feature? Full 64 bit support. Windows XP 64-bit Edition shipped in April...of 2005. It was a pure Kool-Aid moment.
John C. Welch
· 3 years ago
Apple actually was VERY clear that they were copying NTFS's ACL model because it was the best available, and provided the best compatibility. I've never heard anyone at Apple say anything *not* nice about NTFS, it's one hell of a file system.
Now if *Microsoft* would start really using their own FS, that wouldn't suck either.
Jamie
· 3 years ago
Cheers for the "there are new things coming" comment.
But all i want to know is should i wait to buy my new macbook (or mac book pro i haven't decided yet).
i'm going to be disappointed if i buy it next week, and a week later they bring out a new version.
Stephen
· 3 years ago
I am with you Jamie, but I guess that is what we have to live with in the world of technology.
By the time you buy it it is obsolete.
LOL
Mac
· 3 years ago
Scoble stop acting like you have inside sources. You're considered one of the biggest .com wannabes at Apple. One employee here even sent a friend at MSFT a letter sayng "Congratulations on firing Scoble."
With that said, no one any any mid-high level position at Apple would tell you anything.
Mike
· 3 years ago
I thought it was pretty revealing when Steve mentioned in the past 5 years Apple had 5 major os releases, rewrote the thing to support intel chips, created universal binaries that support both, and wrote some code that allows you to run XP. All in the span where Microsoft didnt ship a new os. Not to mention the whole hardware development wing - when's dell going to ship a desktop pc with 4 sli slots and 8 dimm slots?
Now while it didn't seem like a lot of new stuff to you maybe - its probably about two-three years worth of new to-do's for microsoft to add to windows 2012.
TomB
· 3 years ago
I think 64 bit support is pretty big; after all, it's an area of weakness under Windows.
Robert Scoble
· 3 years ago
Mike: In the past five years Microsoft has done major OS releases too. Tablet PC. Media Center. Server 2003.
kjwcode
· 3 years ago
Mike@41: Universal binaries have been around since NeXT or before. They're a feature of the Mach-O binary format.
sharo1
· 3 years ago
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I was lead to believe (by multiple sources that I can’t name for obvious reasons) that there’d be a lot more interesting stuff
Bullshitting as usual, Robert.
Goebbels
· 3 years ago
"In the past five years Microsoft has done major OS releases too. Tablet PC. Media Center. Server 2003."
Your first two examples are XP plus a couple of apps. Not major OS releases. Server 2003 is decent, but XP Server should have been it... and it took 2 years for Server 2003 to get any traction because of incompatibilities with your own products.
Karim
· 3 years ago
it took 2 years for Server 2003 to get any traction because of incompatibilities with your own products.
*cough* Cheetah *cough*
*cough* Puma *cough*
:-)
yourdoctor
· 3 years ago
"cause we expect Steve to do something cool everytime he’s on stage."
And...? Your expectations are not reasonable. People like you are proven wrong keynote after keynote. Stop teasing and overhyping, you'll feel better for it. :-P
LayZ
· 3 years ago
TabletPC and Media Center.. .MAJOR OS releases? Are you serious? MAJOR OS releases? MAJOR? As John McEnroe would say.. "You CANNOT be serious!"?
Last I checked sales of the "TabletOS" were barely of 1MM. That's some MAJOR OS release.
Christopher Coulter
· 3 years ago
Tablet and Media Center are but subsets, plus now they are 'integrated' into Vista 2007, so they won't future exist. But I guess the various SKU's could be spin-doctored off as 'major' too. ;)
Apple is a cult. Microsoft is dysfunctional. Either way you lose.
Karim
· 3 years ago
Last I checked sales of the “TabletOS” were barely of 1MM. That’s some MAJOR OS release.
[author switches to Napoleon Dynamite voice]
Yeah! Everyone knows you have to sell like 27 million of anything for it to be considered a major flipping OS release. I told Scoble that like 50 times already but he didn't listen to me. But what do you expect from a guy who sits around in Montana soaking in hot water and blogging all day. Gosh!
I'm going to create my own Linux distro and, like give away 27 million copies so it can be considered a MAJOR OS release. Chicks dig guys who make their own Linux distros. It's going to be pretty freakin sweet.
Karim
· 3 years ago
Apple is a cult.
[author switches to rapid-fire Robin Williams voice]
Ohmygod you're right. How do you leave the cult, anyway? Turn in your black turtleneck? Go to a software developer and ask him to deprogram you? You have to see sharp in order to de-program. [mimes being a robot] Does. not. compute. Oh look that geek in the front row got it. Yes you the one with the Blackberry holster. I do these jokes for myself you know. Keeps me from drinkin'. [mimes downing a shot glass of alcohol, wipes back of hand across mouth] AHHHHhhhh, Mammy! I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a copy of Windows in front of me. [knees on floor, praying] Take me back, Jobs, for I have sinned and seen a Vista! [switches to effeminate voice] And it wasn't of Cupertino! [switches to serious voice] But enough about me and my cult, let's talk about you and the Boy Scouts of America.
cadtrix
· 3 years ago
Yesterday’s announcements by Apple went over like a lead balloon here at Off the Grid Camp (Patrick was totally not excited and even this morning after he got to hear all the news was not as Apple frenzied as usual).
Matsu
· 3 years ago
Karim, you remind me a lot of Robin Williams. I had the same feelings and thoughts reading your last post as I have when I watch Robin Williams get interviewed on the Tonight Show. I simultaneously feel like laughing and recommending professional help. Probably the latter is the best thing for you (and Robin).
Karim
· 3 years ago
I had the same feelings and thoughts reading your last post as I have when I watch Robin Williams get interviewed on the Tonight Show.
"Man, Karim's last three films all sucked!"
I simultaneously feel like laughing and recommending professional help. Probably the latter is the best thing for you (and Robin).
LOL I'll take that as a compliment, thanks... now if you'll excuse me, the nurse is coming down the hall with a tray of meds... ;-)
LayZ
· 3 years ago
Which should lead you into channeling "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", Karim.
"If Karim doesn't want to take his medication orally, I'm sure we can arrange that he can have it some other way. But I don't think that he would like it."
modernquill
· 3 years ago
I must admit, as a first-year college student, I wasn't expecting anything from Apple. I remember when I bought my present iBook back in July 2004, they waited until after the college promotions to update the model. I don't remember what the update was, but it stung to think I should have waited two extra months. In any event, I'm going to wait until 10.5 comes out to buy my next iboo- er, MacBook.
With that in mind, what did Jobs have anything to act impressed with? Not to dismiss the Wired article, but I think we'll see a much more revitalized pagentry when there's something to celebrate.
Karim
· 3 years ago
Which should lead you into channeling “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”, Karim.
:-) No, I was channeling another Nicholson film (Easy Rider) in another thread, so I think I've hit my monthly quota...
I always wanted to write a sequel to One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, though, about how Nicholson's character leaves the hospital post-lobotomy and goes on to have an extraordinarily successful career in politics.
Seems to be a recurring theme: Cuckoo's Nest was written by Ken Kesey, as in "Ken Kesey's Magic Bus" and its LSD-fueled cross-country adventures; the movie Easy Rider which featured a cross-country trip and LSD; and Scoble's Magic Geek Bus trip to Montana, which probably didn't involve any drugs harder than Claritin but did have passengers who were broadband addicts in withdrawal looking to score a little WiFi. "You're either ON the minivan or you're OFF the minivan." "Turn on, tune in, log out."
I think I'm going to put on some Grateful Dead and stare at iTunes visualizations for a while... :-)
tom
· 3 years ago
"Your first two examples are XP plus a couple of apps. Not major OS releases."
Uh, you mean like, Apple's "major os releases"? Some enhancements to Mail, Safari, iChat, stuff like that? Tiger is just Panther with Spotlight (Freeware on Windows), Konfabulator (Shareware) and Automator (an app). I bought Tiger, and I still wonder why I did that. Feels like Panther to me. Looking at Leopard, I think I'll pass.
John C. Welch
· 3 years ago
Right. Because ACL support is "just panther with spotlight, konfabulator, and Automator".
Maybe you don't know all the differences betwen 10.3 and 10.4
LayZ
· 3 years ago
@60. Perfect!!!!
angelosaxon
· 3 years ago
Great post
Christopher Coulter
· 3 years ago
Cuckoo, got me thinking of the 'The Midwich Cuckoos', per John Carpenter's (and David Himmelstein's) 'Village of the Damned' remake. Appleites meet the Scobleizer Griswalds.
The Appleites in their trademarked white hair and cobalt eyes, are using their supernatural and telepathic powers to draw energy away from the post-Microsoft lifeforces. They have internal-visionary located the lifeforces in a remote Montana town.
Meanwhile, the Scobleizer limo-sized station-wagon criss-crosses the country, video cameras in tow, searching for the perfect internet Wally World, amusement, and away from civilization, just not too far. Clark Scoble, eternal optimist, yet hopelessly bumbling, stops in Montana for a rest (reboot), before romping onto the next tourist stop, world's largest ball of Cat5 cable twine. But they won't make it...
"If we coexist, we shall dominate you. That is inevitable. Eventually you will try to eliminate us. We are all creatures of the life force. Now it was set us at one another to see who will survive."
All Comments
it's off the grid camp, why are you on the grid blogging, reading apple's stock price, and valleywag?
i know it's hard scoble, but i went to jamacia for 2 weeks last year with no internet and i handled it fine. please try and do the same, you'll come to the realization that a lot of the stuff you care about is pointless.
they spent a good chunk of their keynote bashing vista, if i were a mac developer i would have screamed at jobs to remember what he said at macworld boston 97.
(I thought McNealy was fired for never firing anyone.)
I think Steve is spending too much time trying to run Disney.
http://www.techmeme.com/060808/p37#a060808p37 has more reaction from around the blogs.
the market in the face of the
worry about financial restatements.
Wait a bit.
Time will come when
the market will jump
like a hungry coyote.
Then there'll be
just one last thing.
"-"
I wasn't expecting any major hardware releases, seeing as how it was a fairly low profile keynote at WWDC. But I was seriously disappointed that the Leopard demo wasn't cooler. And since they did announce new hardware, I'm disappointed that the Mac Pro doesn't have a new enclosure -- though I've always liked the cheese grater.
Same thing here. If you read any of the indie mac devs who are there, in between excusing the lack of blogging due to NDA, they are all really psyched. In fact, I would argue that Steve showed off some really crowd pleasing stuff yesterday and every normal person I showed the Time Machine and iChat stuff to was incredibly impressed.
The real story I thought was not what Apple didn't announce or show yesterday, but rather how Jobs let his guys do most of the talking...
DISAPPOINTED!!!
Adding insult to injury, we didn't get to hear about the really cool stuff that might be in Leopard, because that's still "Top Secret" now. What's up with that? Instead we got a demo of a backup program that mostly doesn't crash, and an illustration of how Mail will support stationery... and uh, To-Do lists...
The whole thing was surreal. "People spend hours on Photo Booth," Jobs said at one point. Great. I wanted to hear about virtualization, and instead I'm about to get a tour of 32 new Photo Booth effects... someone kill me, pleeeeeease...
And who spends hours on Photo Booth? Narcissus himself got tired of it after 20 minutes and switched to Garageband.
Jobs introduced one feature by saying, "This is a big one. We call it: Spaces."
And the crowd erupts into cheers and applause. WOOO!!! YEAHHH!!!
Nobody knows what "Spaces" is yet, he hasn't even begun to describe it, you can't tell what it might be from the logo, and the crowd has gone NUTS.
On the bright side, at least I did not camp out in front of the Apple Store. :-)
Robert, I think you could be right about the back-to-school timing thing. Merom's not even supposed to be available until the end of the month...?
Or look at what the stock price is doing. Maybe someone needs to pick up a few shares at $60, so they can sell them at $85 in January. Gotta pay for all those new Apple-branded Christmas presents... ;-)
Nobody knows what “Spaces” is yet, he hasn’t even begun to describe it, you can’t tell what it might be from the logo, and the crowd has gone NUTS."
everyone knew it was virtual desktops and they whoo-hooed because everyone that did so was used to it from Linux and had expected it for years.
Scoble, whoever these alleged sources are (are they the same as your iTablet sources) are completely wrong. There were plenty of rumors that were credible and 100% correct: Pro Mac, XServe, demo, that's it. Other correct rumors would be: nano by the end of the month, Merom supported in the MacBooks and/or iMac and/or Mini within the next two months. The "Video" iPod in November. That's credible rumor. Your hype was just silliness however many sources you claim.
Jobs is busy with the Movie Store, retail, and finalizing the next iPod.
On the other hand, I've been a Windows-only guy for the past 11 years, and I have to say I am incredibly unimpressed with Vista. I just picked up a MacBook with Tiger because Apple appears dedicated to holding the line on OS bloat (versus MS) and implementing a truly modern filesystem.
Dude, all your implications and inferences were so GLORIOUSLY clueless, and everyone with half a brain working KNEW they was, and yet, you just couldn't not do it. You just had to wave your "I'm more connected than you are" dick around, and it totally got cut off. I just feel bad that perhaps your son bought into your BS and thought that a WWDC was Macworld.
Maybe you'll learn from this, but somehow i doubt it. Gotta work that Mac user manipulation thing since you don't have a direct line from Microsoft anymore.
I think the smack talk will backfire.
Smack talk, itself doesn't kill. Smack without delivery does. But in general, smack is of poor form. Just make your product the best it can be, and if it is truly the best, it will be ovbious, and others or rather the market can do the smacking for you. Problem with Apple, is that no matter how good their OS is, they won't ever get serious Fortune 1000 marketshare.
I've seen DTrace demonstrated by Sun on OpenSolaris at FOSDEM 2006, and I thought it was pretty awesome.
I'm surprised that since this was a developer conference, this feature didn't get more attention in the media, because i'd call it big news for developers.
I also noticed they compared a nVidia 7300 Mac Pro to a Dell with an nVidia Quadro. Sort of like comparing "Apple's" to oranges... ;-)
just picked up a MacBook with Tiger because Apple appears dedicated to holding the line on OS bloat (versus MS) and implementing a truly modern filesystem.
Did you mean "filesystem" literally? NTFS is one place where I think Microsoft's clearly superior. HFS is still trying to catch up to NTFS; Apple just added access control lists to HFS+ in OS 10.4 :-) (It is one of those tiny little things Cupertino copied from Redmond and you never hear about...) NTFS is a thing of beauty. Scales nicely when you throw multiple CPUs at it. Unfortunately things like that are rarely selling points in an OS....
"OS bloat" really doesn't bother me, and in any event, it hardly seems fair to say that Apple is "holding the line" on OS bloat when all they did on Monday is describe how much more bloated Leopard is going to be than Tiger. ;-) Performance matters, though, and I've been pleasantly surprised by Vista's performance on a MacBook...
Now if *Microsoft* would start really using their own FS, that wouldn't suck either.
But all i want to know is should i wait to buy my new macbook (or mac book pro i haven't decided yet).
i'm going to be disappointed if i buy it next week, and a week later they bring out a new version.
By the time you buy it it is obsolete.
LOL
With that said, no one any any mid-high level position at Apple would tell you anything.
Now while it didn't seem like a lot of new stuff to you maybe - its probably about two-three years worth of new to-do's for microsoft to add to windows 2012.
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Bullshitting as usual, Robert.
Your first two examples are XP plus a couple of apps. Not major OS releases. Server 2003 is decent, but XP Server should have been it... and it took 2 years for Server 2003 to get any traction because of incompatibilities with your own products.
*cough* Cheetah *cough*
*cough* Puma *cough*
:-)
And...? Your expectations are not reasonable. People like you are proven wrong keynote after keynote. Stop teasing and overhyping, you'll feel better for it. :-P
Last I checked sales of the "TabletOS" were barely of 1MM. That's some MAJOR OS release.
Apple is a cult. Microsoft is dysfunctional. Either way you lose.
[author switches to Napoleon Dynamite voice]
Yeah! Everyone knows you have to sell like 27 million of anything for it to be considered a major flipping OS release. I told Scoble that like 50 times already but he didn't listen to me. But what do you expect from a guy who sits around in Montana soaking in hot water and blogging all day. Gosh!
I'm going to create my own Linux distro and, like give away 27 million copies so it can be considered a MAJOR OS release. Chicks dig guys who make their own Linux distros. It's going to be pretty freakin sweet.
[author switches to rapid-fire Robin Williams voice]
Ohmygod you're right. How do you leave the cult, anyway? Turn in your black turtleneck? Go to a software developer and ask him to deprogram you? You have to see sharp in order to de-program. [mimes being a robot] Does. not. compute. Oh look that geek in the front row got it. Yes you the one with the Blackberry holster. I do these jokes for myself you know. Keeps me from drinkin'. [mimes downing a shot glass of alcohol, wipes back of hand across mouth] AHHHHhhhh, Mammy! I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a copy of Windows in front of me. [knees on floor, praying] Take me back, Jobs, for I have sinned and seen a Vista! [switches to effeminate voice] And it wasn't of Cupertino! [switches to serious voice] But enough about me and my cult, let's talk about you and the Boy Scouts of America.
"Man, Karim's last three films all sucked!"
I simultaneously feel like laughing and recommending professional help. Probably the latter is the best thing for you (and Robin).
LOL I'll take that as a compliment, thanks... now if you'll excuse me, the nurse is coming down the hall with a tray of meds... ;-)
"If Karim doesn't want to take his medication orally, I'm sure we can arrange that he can have it some other way. But I don't think that he would like it."
With that in mind, what did Jobs have anything to act impressed with? Not to dismiss the Wired article, but I think we'll see a much more revitalized pagentry when there's something to celebrate.
:-) No, I was channeling another Nicholson film (Easy Rider) in another thread, so I think I've hit my monthly quota...
I always wanted to write a sequel to One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, though, about how Nicholson's character leaves the hospital post-lobotomy and goes on to have an extraordinarily successful career in politics.
Seems to be a recurring theme: Cuckoo's Nest was written by Ken Kesey, as in "Ken Kesey's Magic Bus" and its LSD-fueled cross-country adventures; the movie Easy Rider which featured a cross-country trip and LSD; and Scoble's Magic Geek Bus trip to Montana, which probably didn't involve any drugs harder than Claritin but did have passengers who were broadband addicts in withdrawal looking to score a little WiFi. "You're either ON the minivan or you're OFF the minivan." "Turn on, tune in, log out."
I think I'm going to put on some Grateful Dead and stare at iTunes visualizations for a while... :-)
Uh, you mean like, Apple's "major os releases"? Some enhancements to Mail, Safari, iChat, stuff like that? Tiger is just Panther with Spotlight (Freeware on Windows), Konfabulator (Shareware) and Automator (an app). I bought Tiger, and I still wonder why I did that. Feels like Panther to me. Looking at Leopard, I think I'll pass.
Maybe you don't know all the differences betwen 10.3 and 10.4
The Appleites in their trademarked white hair and cobalt eyes, are using their supernatural and telepathic powers to draw energy away from the post-Microsoft lifeforces. They have internal-visionary located the lifeforces in a remote Montana town.
Meanwhile, the Scobleizer limo-sized station-wagon criss-crosses the country, video cameras in tow, searching for the perfect internet Wally World, amusement, and away from civilization, just not too far. Clark Scoble, eternal optimist, yet hopelessly bumbling, stops in Montana for a rest (reboot), before romping onto the next tourist stop, world's largest ball of Cat5 cable twine. But they won't make it...
"If we coexist, we shall dominate you. That is inevitable. Eventually you will try to eliminate us. We are all creatures of the life force. Now it was set us at one another to see who will survive."
PS - Ok ok ok, lame, but playing Karim's game. ;)