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I do feel that blogging is more important than any social network though. Social networks aren't truly "your own" whereas a blog is all yours.
For this reason, I try (but do not always succeed) to practice what I refer to as Corvida's Law, in which you make a conscious effort to post your thoughts on the original article before you post my thoughts on FriendFeed (or anywhere else, for that matter).
Until there's some easy way to retrieve all of these comments from all of these sources, Corvida's Law might be a good law to follow.
Here's my post explaining it:
http://www.jer979.com/igniting-the-revolution/s...
(I do feel a bit lame commenting on your blog :-), but here's to trying and raise the quality back here. Do I have to post on FF also now to feel validated by the crowd? ;-)
I'm not suprised by you though. You are, of course, a technology shaker and mover. But what I don't understand is that you are paying less attention to the blogging medium that has given you the career you have now.
Yea, change is good, new technology is good, but give us a break -- I'm sticking to the "One Year Scoble Rule" (http://scobleizer.com/2008/03/18/the-techmeme-k...).
Regarding comments, I've often thought some combination of XMLRPC and RSS could be used to keep comments nicely synchronised - if I blog about a Flickr photo then I'm very unsure where the comments deserve to be and it seems a shame that either site is deprived of peoples' opinions. Maybe if it were _all_ done via FriendFeed. Maybe if they allowed me to post a comment to there from this blog or something. Worth looking into.
Years ago people had face to face conversations and read books, etc. Radio became an important factor (more passive), then TV (passive, shorter attention). I think that some of this fracturing of attention is really a multitasking, due to a proliferation of information and information overload.
Good luck in Amersterdam. Robert, you are everywhere (not only in the blogosphere but real life too). You're not cloned are you?
As a result, you're not tied to a certain app or platform, including blogging. No one can swim against the tide of where the market is going (think Wall Street), one would be trampled to ignore public sentiment -- but we must avoid also, if you agree, becoming like the politician who does everything by poll in regard to what is popular and advantageous at the moment. Leadership, including tech leadership, also involves advocacy based upon principles as well. Of course the two approaches are not mutually exclusive by any means.
You can say embrace change or get out of the way. Unfortunately, those of us that live outside of evangelist-land have to you put your ADD-explorations into action. The constant disruption is not a sustainable business model, for the Enterprise or for Small Business. Please keep having the conversations you're having, but don't assume your audience is a "Scoble clone."
See if Disqus can do commenting for you as you wish. It would only let me use disqus for NEW comments only, on blogs without them .. but I am sure for someone like you they could find a way around it ;)
That way you can also bring your comments into FriendFeed.
Worth a try anyway.. BTW I'm nothing to do with disqus... just like what they do
What a beautiful City. Hope you get out of the conference rooms long enough to enjoy it.
Say hi to the fine folks at the Bulldog.
Again Google gets the tail (previously words, now “the conversation”).
"Some bloggers are getting pissed off because of that (because they think they need the conversation to happen on their own blog).
why should they worry? they could relay it by using a widget.
Don't lose this audience (the wordpress blog readers), its hard to get it back.
Not everyone is a massive information processor like you. I think that the conversation needs to be reaggregated and portable so people can participate and consume whereever they are.
Blogging is hard work and the blogger should be rewarded with the content on their own blog. I want to know my readers and I want the comments on my blog.
So I agree with the pissed off bloggers and don't agree with you even though I respect that you have taken the high road on this!
But rather than get pissed off, I've just set up a bunch of google alerts on my blog names, my company names, my personal name, my @twitter name, so I can follow the conversation where it goes.
@elliottng
I will be hesitant to use one of these aggregation things until I can host it on my own server.
And trying to claim ownership of a comment? Your name is next to every comment, right? If you are going to feel that way about it, then you might be better off not commenting at all.
This capitalist mindset is creating an articial society, with artificial relations, all for the almighty Buck. It is a manipulation of Natural Selection. These inflated Ego's are making wannabe-Gods out of all of us.
We can learn a few things from the Samurai about honour, dignity and respect. As a courtesy, when you are commenting, you can leave a link to your home at the bottom. This is never unreasonable.
I feel it helps if one sacrifices that little bit of insight for the greater good, be it business relations or cultural unification.
If you try too hard, you end up recycling 2nd hand info, with no real input from yourself. This also causes dry spells in rich material, which I refer to as "feeling the burn."
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Not to defile the comments or commentors themselves, the act of commenting is much like bird droppings to me in that people will leave them wherever they frequent.
Whatever medium is most convenient and what people are use to they will use. I suppose that's why faxing technology still exists today and is widely used - a lowest common denominator of sorts.
You have talked me in to trying this however, as I was just talking with Dan Keldsen over at BizTalkTech on this very subject yesterday! Great timing as always:
http://www.changeforge.com/?p=45
Scoble is on the way far bleading edge and technology adoption isn't going to happen over night. The mainstream is just now "getting" the Internet.
I found Ken's comment, "the act of commenting is much like bird droppings to me in that people will leave them wherever they frequent," ironic seeing how he left his poopoo here... Commenting, it's so last year.
You know, to be honest with you, all this "new" Web 2.0 technology is great. It gives the VC's a place to employ well meaning people. But what matters is how will these startups find real revenue streams and sustain them for years to come. That boring old telephone technology that A.G. Bell invented a century ago is still bringing in revenue around the world. Hell, I'll be impressed if Facebook, Friendfeed and the lot of these social expierments are around in ten years.
The Social Media I am going to get excited about is the one that makes it easy for me to make a back-up of both sides of any conversation I am a part of.
Also it took us forever to get a working blog search. How on earth do we find the conversations we are interested in now that they are spread all over the place?
I prefer your blog to a conversation held elsewhere. It's like a party that you are hosting, instead of floating around at other events.
You make a great host.
If there is going to be one place online that is Justin Thorp, I'd rather it not be part of one centralized system. My blog is the center of my online identity and everything branches out from there.
FriendFeed is too much of a centralized decentralized social network.
http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2008/04/02/twitter...
I finally opened a FriendFeed account and started following people immediately - I feel like I have a much better pulse on what is going on on a daily basis in the tech industry.
FriendFeed is almost like a 24 hour CNN or Stock Market TV program...except it has news you care about!
Friend Divide? How seriously condescending. Just because some people don't play gotta-collect-them-all Pokemon games with software Social Services doesn't mean they don't have friends, in fact offline, the friendships are wider, deeper, richer and more focused on things other than the latest Web 2.0 or Web-personality-cult of the moment. Besides, you (personally) don't so much as "have" friends in these spaces, as much to "broadcast" to them.
I've definitely been able to implement many of them (where else can you uniformly Comment/Tag Search Results or Feed Items and share with friends, or Post to Topics, all within an overarching framework of interconnected Memes..?)
I just never had enough in the way of friends.. Stayed away from Facebook because I wanted to code.. Always though MySpace was ugly.. Had a couple friends who coded with me but got tired..
Its clear that the will to code and good ideas simply aren't enough.. I've slowly watched Google implement things I had going (Notes on Search Results..? Search History?)
Damn you Titans!! :)
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http://www.marketingfacts.nl/berichten/20080404...
Dutch Marketingblog, but don't worry interview is in English :-)
My prediction: your readership has peaked.
A "friend divide" that is new one to me. I would love it if the Internet friends were my "real" friends but since many of these "friends" use social networking as a marketing tool it is hard to believe that I would consider them real friends. Do you actually meet any of these friends in real life? I am sure that the vast majority of them you have never met in person, like myself. I would have a beer with you if i met you in person but since your such a globe trotter then i do not see that happening. Just my thoughts on the subject.
BigOven is a social network about food, and will automatically place notices on your FriendFeed (with your permission, of course) when you rave about a recipe, post a cooking video to the site, post a photo, or receive a medal from another user for something great you've done in the community.
What it means for sites like us is not only a development-cost savings (not having to roll our own friending/broadcast platform), but also to be able to participate in a much, much bigger platform. I argued that Microsoft ought to buy FriendFeed (or ShareThing) immediately and drop the Yahoo bid, on my blog recently.
Basically, a movement back to the 1920's and Burma-Shave style of marketing.
If you are curious, here is the link:
http://timbauer.bauerfive.com/2008/04/07/friend...