Robert, I am thrilled to see you support Stefan in his cause. I interviewed Stefan on my Podcast , Typical Mac User Podcast www.typicalmauser.com.
Go hear Stefan explain in his own words why he is doing this and how this 19 year old is showing many of us the power of blogging and tenacity.
Larry
· 3 years ago
Robert,
You know what would be brilliant? If Stefan collected enough money for the Mac he wants with exactly $1 leftover. Then he should find someone else who wants to switch but doesn't have the funds. Donate the $1 to help get them going and get them some traffic. It'd be a neat social experiment.
Robert 'Groby' Blum
· 3 years ago
Awesome. More virtual panhandling.
Explain to me again why I should give him money to buy a computer, while there are plenty of schools that have no or completely outdated computers?
mschaef
· 3 years ago
"this 19 year old is showing many of us the power of blogging and tenacity."
What this 19 year old is really doing is showing us the power of begging. The fact it's online begging for a $2,400 computer doesn't change its nature in material way. It doesn't even make it original:
There are starving families too proud to beg for food and this guy is begging for a luxury item from the comfort of his climate controlled home and likely on a full stomach. Why an RSS feed makes this somehow less reprehensible is beyond me.
Bright
· 3 years ago
This guy and his blog where banned from digg.com for spamming, try to submit the blog and see for yourself, he was also spamming story comments with his blog link asking users to give him money. I don't see a cause here. Sorry.
Victor Cajiao
· 3 years ago
I continue to say that before it is called " More virtual panhandling," we examine the way that Stefan is going about this. He is being thou rough, communicative, keeping good records and sharing them openly, and he is exercising the freedom that we all still share on the 'net' to "Think Differently"
Of course there are many that have needs and I also donate to those causes. However I have a teenage child and if I saw him having this kind of tenacity and drive I would applaud the fact that he is pursuing a dream. Many will disagree, but I continue to applaud Stefan and in his quest.
Scott Frazer
· 3 years ago
Yeah, I gotta agree... This virtual panhandling crap is obnoxious.
I'll give my change to the guys outside the McDonalds. they look like they need it more than I do. I expect this guy could _easily_ take out a college loan for the computer if he desperately needed it, or just start saving his money and make do with what he's got in the meantime.
"He is being thourough, communicative, keeping good records and sharing them openly,"
Sure, but he could also _do something_ for the money instead of just ask for it. If it was some sort of cool entrepenurial thing, I'd be less inclined to even write this post. Heck, he didn't even bother to open up a Google AdWords account!
pb.
· 3 years ago
Had a look at Steve's site, and I'm beginning to believe that anything is possible through the blogosphere...
I'm coming up with my own wish-list for the blogosphere to grant. Not too sure how it will go, but if nothing else can be learnt from Steve's quest, it is that anything is possible!
Hamster
· 3 years ago
"However I have a teenage child and if I saw him having this kind of tenacity and drive I would applaud the fact that he is pursuing a dream." Comment by Victor Cajiao
If I had a 19 year old begging on the web I'd smack him up side his head. Learning how to save up your own money is a good lesson to learn.
I don't like asking for money and I certainly do like to borrow from anyone this included my own father when I need a PC in college. When you buy with your own "sweat" then it's really yours.
elijahm
· 3 years ago
If you want to contribute to a charity fund, go ahead.
If you want to contribute to someone buying a different computer so they can write about the experience, then go ahead and do that.
What is unique about blogging is that it isn't forced upon me, it is entirely optional to enjoy or not. By writing interesting things, he provides a service. I don't feel obliged at all to give this person money, but I can certainly imagine saying "eh, what the heck, I'll give him a dollar and see what else he writes."
Would you rather give money to a street performer playing a guitar (with some degree of accuracy), or a beggar sitting there on the sidewalk with a cup? I would rather spend my money on talent and effort (the guitar player).
Charity is a different budget item entirely. Donated money for a computer, in this case, is not charity - it is a tip for a service.
jimmy
· 3 years ago
I'm gonna launch my Ferrari website. Who wants to donate the first $10,000? Come on... Anyone?.... What's the world coming to?
TDavid
· 3 years ago
Stephen could build a business inside some place like say, Second Life, and then buy a couple Mac computers. It's called, er, *work*.
This kind of reminds me of the million pixel guy only without the million pixels. Let's hope your post doesn't spawn copycats of this, Scoble.
Weak.
DaveR
· 3 years ago
Believe or not, MS employees get a discount on Apple products. No need to bother your bother-in-law....
I would think that if there are any SMRT Apple employees paying attention to your blog, they would donate a Mac to your friends cause. What better way to get "free" advertising than to give a friend of Robert Scoble a Macintosh!?!
But then again, your other readers are sure giving him the gears for resemblance of a Panhandler.
Stefan Constantinescu
· 3 years ago
Thanks for spreading the word Robert. I know a lot of people aren't going to agree with my intentions, but that's life apperently.
Thomas
· 3 years ago
Where are his AdSense or Amazon ads? That might help out a heck of a lot more.
This ethical sparring is total bs. Donate money to who you want to.
So kids in a third-grade class in Brooklyn need a computer more than Stefan? Well, I'm sure there are kids in this country who need food more than Brooklyn third graders need computers. And there are kids in distant countries who are starving on a scale much larger than kids in the US. If you want to give money to them, fine. If not, don't. But it doesn't help anyone to get judgmental about charity, and who should be the recipient of it.
Stepahn: I dont have money to spare, but I do have a lot of goodwill to share. :)- hope that you dreams come true !!
Stefan Constantinescu
· 3 years ago
Why thank you Jon :)
I linked to his post on my blog, my latest blog entry talks about everything.
TDavid
· 3 years ago
Good article, Jon, thanks for sharing. This summarizes the situation pretty well: "I blew him off completely when he first contacted me, because, well, he's a guy who's trying to get a new 20" iMac for free off of a bunch of strangers."
Robert Scoble
· 3 years ago
Sam: I have an interview coming up with the Bitlocker team. I don't believe their tech will prove as nasty as Schneier is making it sound.
MacBooks are showing up all over campus. Just interviewed the MSN Messenger Ad-Ins team and he was using a MacBook with both Parallels and BootCamp.
Stefan Constantinescu
· 3 years ago
I highly suggest you read my last post, everything has been handled.
Stefan Constantinescu
· 3 years ago
Make it a free copy of Office 2004 for the Mac as well, and I'm in!
sec
· 3 years ago
Stupid question....but what is the hook? He's not offering to DO anything if you donate money. I didn't see it in his blog, but did he offer to donate his old computer to a needy school (admittedly, it's not a fantastic computer, but...)? He's a college student, not much time, but what about commiting to donating SOME time to help tutor at-risk kids? In a billion other ways, he can offer to help someone the way he is asking people to help him, I just haven't seen any offers of that kind from him.
Or is this just a social experiment? Is he getting graded on it?
Stefan, I wish you the best. But if you're asking people to donate money just for kicks, I'm sorry but I don't think it would be right for me to help you out.
Diego
· 3 years ago
Hmm beggars these days have their own web sites? There are plenty of poor starving people in the world that don't even have a web site! What is the world coming to?!? :)
But sure, lets help this poor guy buy a MacBook Pro. Where do I send the cheque?
Stefan Constantinescu
· 3 years ago
The hook is I jump to the 5% market share of Mac users.
dmad
· 3 years ago
how does society benefit from giving this beggar money to buy an Mac for his own use?
@19, the difference is, I rather doubt all the 3rd graders will be taking the computers with them. IOW, they won't own them, the school will. So the SCHOOL benefits, thus society benefits in the long run. I fail to see how this poor college kid is any different than any other poor college kid. Isn't he leaning enough in college to figure out how to finance his purchase on his own without begging?
Seems like I'd benefit more by giving to the Human Fund.
Todd Zeigler
· 3 years ago
Mark me down as someone tired of these sort of superficial begging for money memes.
Scoble - use your influence for something more important than buying some college student a freakin' Mac. Isn't there a better cause you can push us towards?
Diego Barros
· 3 years ago
By the way, when I said "But sure, lets help this poor guy buy a MacBook Pro. Where do I send the cheque?"
I was being sarcastic. I find this type of thing deplorable.
Adrian Lee
· 3 years ago
Ya know, I'd quite like to test an Aston martin DB9, I'm fed up with my 2nd hand small car, I want to see what the other side of the fence is like, a big beefy car, with a big beefy engine. They only sell for around £110,000, not a lot at all really if a very small percentage of the worlds driving population donate me £1 each.
Any takers?
No, thought not.....
I have a job, this job pays me wages, I decide what I can and can't buy based on those wages and the other things I have to buy. I don't expect free computers from people just because....
Earn some money, get on ebay, buy something...don't ask me for handouts for luxury items.
Tina Terise
· 3 years ago
I wish you the best of luck in your quest for Mac. Your only 19 so it unlikely that you have a whole lot to barter with. It is amazing how quickly those who are raking in huge salaries forget what is like to be a starving student living on Ramen noodles. The decision to give comes from the heart and no one cause is any more deserving than any other.
Stefan Constantinescu
· 3 years ago
Thanks Tina!
Brendan
· 3 years ago
Ahh yes, the joys of panhandling online.
I myself have been trying this route since January with limited success in order to pay off my ~$51k of remaining student loan debt over at http://www.brendansstudentloans.com.
Believe it or not though I do agree with much of what has been said here and while there are often far better causes in the world that are worthy of donations... it’s a simple matter of advertising and traffic. Think about it, how often has Scoble or someone else linked you to a charity asking for money to help starving children? If such charities were to receive the kind of word of mouth that some of these begging campaigns get I would expect that people would be more willing to give their money to the better cause.
Jon
· 3 years ago
"The hook is I jump to the 5% market share of Mac users."
And you must be the 0.000000000000000000001% of the 5% of mac users who are the leeching, give-me-everything-free type.
I'm sure the mac users can't wait to have you on board.
Ben Hollis
· 3 years ago
Hey, I don't even want a MacBook, I just want a Mac mini. This is a great idea. If I can get Scoble and some mac sites to link to me, I'll have it paid off in no time, and I promise I'll blog about it.
Most broke college kids I knew had better things to spend money on than a MacBook - like a cheaper computer that was more in their price range. I doubt it'd go over well if I sat at a freeway ramp with a sign that said "Need Mac 4 Graphic Arts. No Core Solo Please."
Dmad
· 3 years ago
@27 I've not forgotten what it's like and it's been 20 years. No, the more likely sceanrio is that today's generation is expecting immediate gratification and can't comprehend the concept of working and saving and doing things for yourself.
Stefan Constantinescu
· 3 years ago
Who is pious enough to say what man is deserving and isn't?
Hamster
· 3 years ago
"Who is pious enough to say what man is deserving and isn’t?"
I am. Go get a job and work like everyone else. You're a freeloader and you know it.
Mac Lover
· 3 years ago
I like his blog. I think a lot of potential Mac switchers out there could benefit from reading some of his articles. He talks about the features of Mac OS X that he finds impressive. He talks about different applications, gives his reviews and asks for other people's opinions. And you have to admit, he's marketed his website pretty well. The whole idea elicits strong reactions from a lot of differnet people. And I wouldn't be surprised if all the "negative" posts and links out there are actually driving a significant amount of traffic to his website, which ultimately helps him even more.
socialism
· 1 year ago
Wow. how long did it take? ive gotten approx $60 in one month lol
All Comments
Go hear Stefan explain in his own words why he is doing this and how this 19 year old is showing many of us the power of blogging and tenacity.
You know what would be brilliant? If Stefan collected enough money for the Mac he wants with exactly $1 leftover. Then he should find someone else who wants to switch but doesn't have the funds. Donate the $1 to help get them going and get them some traffic. It'd be a neat social experiment.
Explain to me again why I should give him money to buy a computer, while there are plenty of schools that have no or completely outdated computers?
What this 19 year old is really doing is showing us the power of begging. The fact it's online begging for a $2,400 computer doesn't change its nature in material way. It doesn't even make it original:
http://www.savekaryn.com/
There are starving families too proud to beg for food and this guy is begging for a luxury item from the comfort of his climate controlled home and likely on a full stomach. Why an RSS feed makes this somehow less reprehensible is beyond me.
Of course there are many that have needs and I also donate to those causes. However I have a teenage child and if I saw him having this kind of tenacity and drive I would applaud the fact that he is pursuing a dream. Many will disagree, but I continue to applaud Stefan and in his quest.
I'll give my change to the guys outside the McDonalds. they look like they need it more than I do. I expect this guy could _easily_ take out a college loan for the computer if he desperately needed it, or just start saving his money and make do with what he's got in the meantime.
"He is being thourough, communicative, keeping good records and sharing them openly,"
Sure, but he could also _do something_ for the money instead of just ask for it. If it was some sort of cool entrepenurial thing, I'd be less inclined to even write this post. Heck, he didn't even bother to open up a Google AdWords account!
I'm coming up with my own wish-list for the blogosphere to grant. Not too sure how it will go, but if nothing else can be learnt from Steve's quest, it is that anything is possible!
If I had a 19 year old begging on the web I'd smack him up side his head. Learning how to save up your own money is a good lesson to learn.
I don't like asking for money and I certainly do like to borrow from anyone this included my own father when I need a PC in college. When you buy with your own "sweat" then it's really yours.
If you want to contribute to someone buying a different computer so they can write about the experience, then go ahead and do that.
What is unique about blogging is that it isn't forced upon me, it is entirely optional to enjoy or not. By writing interesting things, he provides a service. I don't feel obliged at all to give this person money, but I can certainly imagine saying "eh, what the heck, I'll give him a dollar and see what else he writes."
Would you rather give money to a street performer playing a guitar (with some degree of accuracy), or a beggar sitting there on the sidewalk with a cup? I would rather spend my money on talent and effort (the guitar player).
Charity is a different budget item entirely. Donated money for a computer, in this case, is not charity - it is a tip for a service.
This kind of reminds me of the million pixel guy only without the million pixels. Let's hope your post doesn't spawn copycats of this, Scoble.
Weak.
http://microsoftprime.com/FramePage.aspx?cat=16...
But then again, your other readers are sure giving him the gears for resemblance of a Panhandler.
So kids in a third-grade class in Brooklyn need a computer more than Stefan? Well, I'm sure there are kids in this country who need food more than Brooklyn third graders need computers. And there are kids in distant countries who are starving on a scale much larger than kids in the US. If you want to give money to them, fine. If not, don't. But it doesn't help anyone to get judgmental about charity, and who should be the recipient of it.
And in unrelated news: Scoble, can you confirm or deny this Windows Vista rumor:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/04/27/schneie...
If it's true, you might want to rethink that MacBook purchase.
Be sure to read this post about the guy:
http://wiredblogs.tripod.com/cultofmac/index.bl...
I linked to his post on my blog, my latest blog entry talks about everything.
MacBooks are showing up all over campus. Just interviewed the MSN Messenger Ad-Ins team and he was using a MacBook with both Parallels and BootCamp.
Or is this just a social experiment? Is he getting graded on it?
Stefan, I wish you the best. But if you're asking people to donate money just for kicks, I'm sorry but I don't think it would be right for me to help you out.
But sure, lets help this poor guy buy a MacBook Pro. Where do I send the cheque?
@19, the difference is, I rather doubt all the 3rd graders will be taking the computers with them. IOW, they won't own them, the school will. So the SCHOOL benefits, thus society benefits in the long run. I fail to see how this poor college kid is any different than any other poor college kid. Isn't he leaning enough in college to figure out how to finance his purchase on his own without begging?
Seems like I'd benefit more by giving to the Human Fund.
Scoble - use your influence for something more important than buying some college student a freakin' Mac. Isn't there a better cause you can push us towards?
I was being sarcastic. I find this type of thing deplorable.
Any takers?
No, thought not.....
I have a job, this job pays me wages, I decide what I can and can't buy based on those wages and the other things I have to buy. I don't expect free computers from people just because....
Earn some money, get on ebay, buy something...don't ask me for handouts for luxury items.
I myself have been trying this route since January with limited success in order to pay off my ~$51k of remaining student loan debt over at http://www.brendansstudentloans.com.
Believe it or not though I do agree with much of what has been said here and while there are often far better causes in the world that are worthy of donations... it’s a simple matter of advertising and traffic. Think about it, how often has Scoble or someone else linked you to a charity asking for money to help starving children? If such charities were to receive the kind of word of mouth that some of these begging campaigns get I would expect that people would be more willing to give their money to the better cause.
And you must be the 0.000000000000000000001% of the 5% of mac users who are the leeching, give-me-everything-free type.
I'm sure the mac users can't wait to have you on board.
Most broke college kids I knew had better things to spend money on than a MacBook - like a cheaper computer that was more in their price range. I doubt it'd go over well if I sat at a freeway ramp with a sign that said "Need Mac 4 Graphic Arts. No Core Solo Please."
I am. Go get a job and work like everyone else. You're a freeloader and you know it.