Scobleizer: Google Reader, the next “Digg?”
Ian Betteridge
· 2 years ago
I started using Google Reader as an experiment a month or so ago, switching from Newsgator - and despite loving NewsGator's offline clients, I don't think I'll be going back. The interface is really nice, the starring and Sharing features are well thought-out, and it works with IE, Firefox AND Safari, which is a bonus.
I agree that they could build some very interesting social software stuff around the Sharing idea, too. At the moment, its almost hidden in the background - but it could easily go some interesting places in the future.
watever
· 2 years ago
can you upload u r opml file sumwhere..
Robert Scoble
· 2 years ago
Yes, but this weekend. I'm busy until then.
francine
· 2 years ago
I think Google Reader is great, except I would love to be able to comment directly on blogs from the Reader without having to open another screen and actually go to the blog. I would also like to have the shared items go directly to my own blog. Since you are in a dialogue with Google and I am a peon, why don't you suggest this to someone?
Chris G.
· 2 years ago
I love Google Reader. It has nailed every aspect of feed reading that I need.
Sharing has a ton of potential too. I know that by subscribing to Scoble's sharing feed and a few others that I never miss anything of note.
Amit Doshi
· 2 years ago
I moved to Google reader a couple of weeks ago, and its been a great experience. One thing I miss, that I used to use quite a bit of, from the Opera browsers built in feed reader, was the ability to set up searches of the feeds. I used to have searches like symbian, india, e61, etc set up and all the new messages with any of these words in it would get tagged accordingly, so I could see them quicker and in a single folder. Actually the (nonexistent) search features pretty much suck in Google Reader.
Thats pretty much the only thing Im missing.
JoeC
· 2 years ago
I started using Google Reader when I got fed up with feed clients that I couldn't figure out, or that had too many "features". Google Reader was so easy to use, unencumbered by crap and just so intuitive: it fits my understanding of what RSS does. Plus, when I click on an RSS link, it does what I expect: it goes to my G.R. page. That little bit by itself was enough to sell me. And finally, it's web based, so reading at work or reading at home doesn't involve duplication of effort.
Michael.NET
· 2 years ago
I too switched to Google Reader a while back, the sharing aspect is a plus, but feels very under utilized, one has to wonder if they do have something like this in the works. It makes sense for them, they acquired Blogger, and made it easy to add AdSense to pages. And how many other blogs out there use AdSense? It's in their best interest to drive as much traffic to as many blogs as possible, a front page link to an aggregation service of peoples shared and starred items would certainly do that. And there's no overhead for them, people are responsible for maintaining their own blog sites. Win-Win for Google.
Google reader is great. I just wish they'd fix the leaks. My preference is to just leave it open in a tab under IE7, in its own IE process. Doing that, it's typically grown to about a half gig process size within a week, usually within 3-4 days. But then again, google talk leaks just about as badly so I shouldn't be surprised.
Eddie Codel
· 2 years ago
Google Reader is sending us (GETV) a lot of traffic today for Irina's 'boobs in a box' music video. I wonder if this is because people are sharing this link or if it's just a lot of Scobleizer and BoingBoing readers who use Google Reader. Interesting to watch.
David Morris
· 2 years ago
I recently switched to Newsgator Online from JetBrains Omea Reader. This was because Omea Reader had way too much functionality that I didn't need. If Google Reader were to compete against other products, it would be the likes of Newsgator Online and downloadable clients. Digg is a different sort of service, so they can't really compete against each other.
Tamar Weinberg
· 2 years ago
It would be nice for Google Reader users to have a more unique URL rather than one with a random 15 digit number attached to it.
I still haven't converted to Google Reader yet. In due time...
Brian Sullivan
· 2 years ago
I switched too (after one too many crashes with Intravnews and Outlook).
But I agree with Skip -- there definitely is an issue with growing browser memory size on IE7 anyway -- I am not sure if it can be classed as a "leak" as closing the browser releases the memory and it is not clear if this is a reader issue or an IE7 issue but regardless it is a pain in the butt.
Doug
· 2 years ago
Digg and reddit are far and away better than Google reader. Full stop. No competition. Google came into this market far too late.
Louis Gray
· 2 years ago
I've grown so accustomed to using Google Reader to navigate feeds that I find myself trying to hit "J" to go to the next unread comment on blogs or the next article on news sites.
I don't know if it will replace Digg. The tools have different uses.
Digg itself is morphing to the point it's not very useful, and for me at least, I never relied on Google News' front page for anything. Everyone has their own preference, and I just don't expect those properties to run my viewing habits.
ben
· 2 years ago
Try out feedable.com. It's in beta and is easier to use that Google Reader.
Thomas Fitzgerald
· 2 years ago
Here's hoping if it does become the next digg, the rediculous and frequently offensive commentary that pervades digg can be oprevented somehow.
Michael Markman
· 2 years ago
You wore me down about seventeen plugs ago. Google reader is the shizzle. Flashback: early days of the Web... remember all the sites that were mainly lists of links to other sites? Google Reader is that again. "Here's stuff I like."
But that's not enough. When I tell people about it, they often throw up their hands and say, "enough internet already. I already have more ways to find stuff than I can deal with. I have no apetitite no cycles left to ride up another learning curve. Even a shallow one."
There are some meta-lessons here: Google Reader is an acquired taste. The sharing and community features are too well hidden for an explosive viral effect.
Biggest obstacle to wide adoption of Google Reader: it solves a problem that either don't have or already have a solution for.
No worries. They'll keep gaining. They have time. Cause, after all, it is the shizzle.
Donal
· 2 years ago
Robert,
I agree with you that it would be useful for readers to download an OPML file.
However, in my opinion, a bigger drawback with many feedreaders is their inability to distinguish categories from feeds when importing data from an existing OPML file. Some assume the category is a feed, others simply ignore categories.
I haven't used Google Reader to date so I was wondering how good it is at separating categories from feeds when importing existing OPML. I'll test it out and see. If it can't do it, does any other feedreader get it right?
Donal
· 2 years ago
Checked. It does work!
Teresa Valdez Klein
· 2 years ago
I burned my shared items feed and then used the attached widget to display my six most recent shared headlines in the sidebar of my blog. I think the sharing angle is my favorite feature of Google reader.
Hi Robert. I'm sorry but I don't Digg Google Reader.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't like it or any other web-based aggregator. It is way too slow for my liking (yes, I have broadband).
Admittedly I subscribe to thousands of filtered feeds, but I don't have the patience (or the time) to wait for it to load.
I understand that someone like you who is on the road a lot has need for a web reader (have OPML will travel). But as for the rest of us I don't see it as a viable option to replace desktop aggregators that can be much faster and more feature rich.
The only real advantage that I can see web-based aggregators might have is the social aspect. The other advantage would also be for retaining a history of my feeds on Google's servers instead eating up dwindling space on my hard drive.
Nevertheless, until they can improve performance issues I will stick with my free copy of "GreatNews" which is super fast and has all of the important features that I need.
I hope that you and your family had a terrific Christmas.
dan mcweeney
· 2 years ago
If Google would really start to look at their reader stats they could use that to help search blogs/everything better. The the more people who subscribe to your blog and who actually click links on your blog, the more useful your posts are and links probably are. If Google started to give different weighting to these referring links based upon actual human click throughs they could tell what was a good link and what was a bad link ( Wizard of Oz flashback ) even more accurately. Its basically a way for Google to validate their index using real live humans. -d
Luke
· 2 years ago
Yet one more example of "Google: By geeks, for geeks."
RBA
· 2 years ago
Robert, that commenter in Steve's blog would be me :-)
I'm not wondering *how* Google is going to dominate the news aggregator business.
I'm saying that for something like Google Reader to put down a site like Digg it would first have to dominate the news aggregator space, because as long as there are masses of people who don't use that reader/service, they will resort to other services that give them what Digg dives them today, without giving up their own news reader. And it certainly doesn't take just a few thousand people to take over that space.
You only need a few thousand people to get a social thing going, but you certainly need a lot more to turn it into the "next Digg" or whatever IMHO.
Colin
· 2 years ago
I was already sold on Google Reader when I accessed it through my Blackberry. Then I was overwhelmed. Read in Blackberry and instantly updated on the web version. But the key is that the BB version is customised by Google with things like "keep unread". Re the Digg thing ... the "share this" function has exponential possibilities. You have to try it, live with it to see that.
Amit Doshi
· 2 years ago
Thanks for the link...it helps, but not enough. Actually since I cant sort by date, its really nowhere close to enough. Thanks anyway though.
Bangalore Bytes
· 2 years ago
Surely someone can write a script where we all can submit our Google shared feeds list/rss feed and then use that data to come up with a functional Digg/Reddit prototype?
Until Google does the same of course...
Joseph Thornley
· 2 years ago
"I sure would like to find other Google Reader users who share items similar to the ones I share with people. I’d love to combine those two feeds..." Robert, I switched to Google Reader after you raved about it during the blogger dinner in Chicago before the Ragan Conference.
Google Reader seems to be totally down, and in standard Google fashion we're getting no response as to why.
Rakesh
· 2 years ago
Google Reader is the best web-based reader out there - no question. But I really wish the Reader guys would be snappier about fixing bugs. For instance, the "In expanded view, mark items as read when you scroll past them." checkbox under "Scroll options" hasn't worked for many months now and nobody seems to care. I un-check it and it still insists on marking posts as read on scrolling. Gngngngngn...
I am not a "neat" reader and keep reading random posts in multiple iterations - pwease oh pwease make it work...
jack folla
· 2 years ago
Insted of beat digg or netscape, they could just add another layer on web2.0 as this www.skimoff.com aggregator tries to do.
Social Bookmarking List
· 1 year ago
Still after all this time Google Reader is still going strong. Yet I still spend much of my time at Digg and still visit my favorite sites.
Chris Lang
· 1 year ago
Well, you were right! Google Reader is the new social bookmarking engine and it is Google Reader that is the gas.
Google Reader adds a friends list, many social features like bookmarking, RSS feed item sharing, comments on blog posts and a blog recommendation engine based on your friends feeds and what you have in Google Reader
This is the first time I have ever beat everybody to breaking news, even TechCrunch.
My blog is banned by Digg, but if you write the article we will take it front page for you on Digg. Just email me so I can link to your article, you had the vision in 2006.
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I agree that they could build some very interesting social software stuff around the Sharing idea, too. At the moment, its almost hidden in the background - but it could easily go some interesting places in the future.
Sharing has a ton of potential too. I know that by subscribing to Scoble's sharing feed and a few others that I never miss anything of note.
Thats pretty much the only thing Im missing.
I still haven't converted to Google Reader yet. In due time...
But I agree with Skip -- there definitely is an issue with growing browser memory size on IE7 anyway -- I am not sure if it can be classed as a "leak" as closing the browser releases the memory and it is not clear if this is a reader issue or an IE7 issue but regardless it is a pain in the butt.
I don't know if it will replace Digg. The tools have different uses.
Digg itself is morphing to the point it's not very useful, and for me at least, I never relied on Google News' front page for anything. Everyone has their own preference, and I just don't expect those properties to run my viewing habits.
But that's not enough. When I tell people about it, they often throw up their hands and say, "enough internet already. I already have more ways to find stuff than I can deal with. I have no apetitite no cycles left to ride up another learning curve. Even a shallow one."
There are some meta-lessons here: Google Reader is an acquired taste. The sharing and community features are too well hidden for an explosive viral effect.
Biggest obstacle to wide adoption of Google Reader: it solves a problem that either don't have or already have a solution for.
No worries. They'll keep gaining. They have time. Cause, after all, it is the shizzle.
I agree with you that it would be useful for readers to download an OPML file.
However, in my opinion, a bigger drawback with many feedreaders is their inability to distinguish categories from feeds when importing data from an existing OPML file. Some assume the category is a feed, others simply ignore categories.
I haven't used Google Reader to date so I was wondering how good it is at separating categories from feeds when importing existing OPML. I'll test it out and see. If it can't do it, does any other feedreader get it right?
for how to get your shared items into a linkroll.
http://persistent.info/archives/2006/03/23/goog...
also talks about it a little more (Mihai is an engineer on Google Reader), and his front page shows an example of it.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't like it or any other web-based aggregator. It is way too slow for my liking (yes, I have broadband).
Admittedly I subscribe to thousands of filtered feeds, but I don't have the patience (or the time) to wait for it to load.
I understand that someone like you who is on the road a lot has need for a web reader (have OPML will travel). But as for the rest of us I don't see it as a viable option to replace desktop aggregators that can be much faster and more feature rich.
The only real advantage that I can see web-based aggregators might have is the social aspect. The other advantage would also be for retaining a history of my feeds on Google's servers instead eating up dwindling space on my hard drive.
Nevertheless, until they can improve performance issues I will stick with my free copy of "GreatNews" which is super fast and has all of the important features that I need.
I hope that you and your family had a terrific Christmas.
-d
"Google: By geeks, for geeks."
I'm not wondering *how* Google is going to dominate the news aggregator business.
I'm saying that for something like Google Reader to put down a site like Digg it would first have to dominate the news aggregator space, because as long as there are masses of people who don't use that reader/service, they will resort to other services that give them what Digg dives them today, without giving up their own news reader. And it certainly doesn't take just a few thousand people to take over that space.
You only need a few thousand people to get a social thing going, but you certainly need a lot more to turn it into the "next Digg" or whatever IMHO.
Re the Digg thing ... the "share this" function has exponential possibilities. You have to try it, live with it to see that.
Until Google does the same of course...
Robert, I switched to Google Reader after you raved about it during the blogger dinner in Chicago before the Ragan Conference.
I'm also sharing my link blog at http://www.google.ca/reader/shared/056792974700.... Please feel free to take a look at it and use it, if it meets your purpose.
I am not a "neat" reader and keep reading random posts in multiple iterations - pwease oh pwease make it work...
Google Reader adds a friends list, many social features like bookmarking, RSS feed item sharing, comments on blog posts and a blog recommendation engine based on your friends feeds and what you have in Google Reader
http://www.keywebdata.com/?p=136
This is the first time I have ever beat everybody to breaking news, even TechCrunch.
My blog is banned by Digg, but if you write the article we will take it front page for you on Digg. Just email me so I can link to your article, you had the vision in 2006.
Cheers = Chris Lang