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Anyway, I'm anxious too to see just what Google is going to spring on the world.
Hey, maybe you should just start ScobleNet, the socnet of Society Scoble. :)
Jyri presented at reboot in June...seemed like a great guy, down to earth and level headed.
I was wondering what their business model was back then, guess I just found out??
-pc.
That said, I now hate Facebook precisely because it allows someone to have 5,000 friends in the first place. Facebook was supposed to be the clean-cut alternative to MySpace, where I could check up on people I *really* know and access their cell phone numbers when I happened to be visiting the city they were living in this month. Now, I can't even find their cell phone numbers under a barrage of animated plants and SuperWalls.
Clearly, others are enjoying themselves, and I'm not knocking that. I just want the old Facebook back, or someone with the passion to create a new site that goes viral like Facebook but doesn't turn into nuFacebook. Plaxo is hardly an alternative.
As an Orkut user (it is really popular in Brazil), I can assure you I have more reasons to hate Orkut. 8)
Fortunately, it is improving, but very slowly.
But I followed you, Robert, to Twitter, then you mentioned Pownce and Jaiku, so I got on them too. I think it's the speed of interactivity, the rapid replies you can get to a message, that's so addictive.
To step into the rushing river of brevities, cool links, and what we had for lunch today, is a challenge for old conventional SloMo bloggers.
Too bad Twitter is dysfunctional and down so often. If they don't fix their scaling problems fast, and provide better "in reply to" functionality, with Pownce-like file sharing, they're going to fade away.
Socnet members love the community they're participating in, but will migrate to another platform in a heartbeat if the functionalities are better and if the geek pundits give the Marching Orders to do so.
Good for Google. They really will take over the universe, what's left of it.
twitter.com/vaspers
Post a link on Twitter, Jaiku, or Pownce, then after indexing catches it, Google the name of company linked to and watch how high it appears in SERPs. Like #1 or #3 in many cases.
Micro blogging is the new marketing power and marketable skill. Old Slow Motion Blogs can't compete with the rapid idea and link dissemination, plus pure SEO power of these status updating tools.
A huge number of those pageviews for Orkut are in Brazil, where Orkut is the hot social network. Being big in Brazil doesn't make a service a legitimate contender to Facebook or MySpace.
Clearly it's gotten big traction outside the US. And tighter integration with Gmail could go a long way to pumping up the adoption curve here in the States. That may or may not be enough to overcome their late-mover disadvantage. We'll see.
We should probably just call it the list of "People who I target my message at".
All in all, it's about advertisers trying to reach a large audience in a short amount of time.
Maybe the upcoming changes will send them in the right direction, but I doubt it.
Also another reason I choose twitter over Jaiku is design, maybe it's me but I think twitter's design is much more pleasing on the eye.
It may also have something to do with the fact that most of my friends are on twitter.
But don't let me ruin Jaiku's day and I think a big congratulations is needed.
Having Google back you up is a good thing, and I'm guessing we're going to be seeing interesting things coming from Jaiku over the next few months.
Why aren’t they succeeding? Because eBay is NOT about the technology. It’s about the community and unless you have something that’ll convince the buyers and sellers all to switch all at one moment you’ll never be able to take eBay’s market away. Translation: it’s too late and eBay has huge defensibility around its business because people won’t move away from it even if you demonstrate 5x better technology.
Same with Facebook. I’m not moving away from it. Why? I have 5,000 reasons why (and another 500 already who want to be included in my Facebook network). Unless you can convince them all to move I’m not moving. This is why LinkedIn isn’t going to disappear anytime soon, even though I like Facebook’s approach a lot better. It’s also why MySpace isn’t going anywhere. My son says his friends are all on MySpace. My brother’s bar is on MySpace. They aren’t moving no matter how hard I evangelize Facebook."
Yeah, I've noticed that. Sure hope that doesn't change for my Twitter link posts now that Google's picked Jaiku.
I've just spent a little time on Jaiku, but like Pownce it just lacks the simplicity of Twitter. I'm sure there's ways to make a more feature-rich service while retaining a simple interface, but they're not there yet.
If the interface isn't really simple, it won't be fast, which is essential to how I use Twitter. Of course, it's also easier to display the service on a basic phone, but I guess those are going away soon w/ iPhone, gPhone, and who knows what else!
Maybe Google didn't buy Twitter after buying Blogger from Evan :-)
Who are YOU to tell me that I can only possibly know 200 people? That's bullshit.
It also explains why nearly everyone in Brazil who is on the Internet is also on Orkut.
43 minutes a year talking to someone, that's not really KNOWING them, is it?
Twitter's "in reply to" goes to the most recent message, not a specific tweet. That's ridiculous.
We should probably just call it the list of “People who I target my message at”.
How is Jaiku about presence? I don't understand Tim O'Reilly's comment.
To me Twitter is just a copy of Jaiku.
Thanks for your thoughts.
But we're all saying "yay Google!" right now...what's going to happen when Google does something bad? Yep, the same us will be screaming "WTF GOOGLE! WHY DO THEY HAVE A MONOPOLY ON EVERYTHING?!"
What year do you graduate from high school? Seriously, this really reeks for trying hard to be the cool kid. Why would a person care how many "friends" another person has?
Number one I didn't suggest that it was an "evil" plan to get you to add your real friends--I was referring to the actual point of Facebook, to map your real social graph. People you actually have relationships with.
And I didn't say that you can't KNOW more than 5,000 people--if you define "know" as "aware of." My point was about relationships, I seriously doubt that you or anyone else can have a real personal relationship with that many people.
And yes Facebook is a great Rolodex, but thats not it's intended primary function. I seriously doubt that they are worried about losing a ton of users because of the 5,000 contact limit. There aren't that many people who really need to go beyond that--or even come close to it. You are a special case, maybe sometimes you forget that you're not even close to the typical user. I suspect most people are more like myself who use Facebook to track about 200 of my friends and use an actual address book app to keep contacts on everyone else.
However, I still miss a wider approach from Google. Opening up the platform with APIs is one - yes. But if they intend to take a bite of the Social Graph opportunity I am susprised they do not have a richer solution for your contacts list than they have today.
http://thekillerattitude.com/2007/09/where-is-g...
But, y'know what? If you do get on orkut, you'll get tired of life. Seriously. Very soon. The amount of jibberish going on there is maddening.
Oh, and, did I tell you that only 18+ people are allowed in there?
I define a friend in Facebook as the people that I interact with and want to remain in touch with on a regular basis - I think it would be nearly impossible to do that with a huge number of friends and would defeat the purpose of my facebook profile. I like using Facebook as a means to connect in an implicit/passive manner - but I don't want to do this with 5000 people.
Anyone can make 50,000 online friends if they want to waste their time doing that and it makes them feel good, but we all know the true meaning of a friend so I should not have to explain it.
As for the Oct 10th post and I quote "Were Twitter’s technical problems too extensive for Google to swallow when they went shopping for a microblog service?", use your head!!! I seriously doubt such a thought would enter Google exec's minds, its a business decision, if Google would so desire they would certainly be able to sort out Twitter's tech problems, its a money thing if you get my drift?
Last point before I get replies of (blind, tunnel vision & blatantly unintelligent) criticism (I'm Australian so don't waste time pointing out spelling errors, I only spell American when coding sites...., because I have to!!!!). Orknut is big in Brazil but not in the U.S., big shock coming your way, it will be big in the U.S. Like it or not the huge majority of users on networking sites are not what most would consider I.T. literate (for example they are not the type that would read or even find this site interesting like we all have). They will jump on the bandwagon and follow the rest of the sheep, you may doubt me but do not underestimate the power of Google's marketing strategy. They have some very smart people in the marketing & PR departments that know only too well how to prey on gullible people (gullible being a natural trait of all human beings).
By the way, I am not a fan of Google but I am a realist, I use Google search engine because it is the best around and when I need to find information quickly I would be made not to use it, whether I like it or not!
Thank you for listening and please feel free to vote for me should I decide to become only the second foreign born president of the USA behind Arnie (see I do have a sense of humour)!
But really Robert is just broken. He should be a Facebook app instead of pretending his persona is a real person or 'friend'. Just add a Scoble app, I'm sure people will love to join.
And maybe some of the peopel who are actually your real friends will rejoin your facebook profile once the who ring list you have now evaporated.