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Re: Google Android: we want developers but…

Wrenchy — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:18:10 -0000

Hey Scoble, don't you look like a clown! Look where Android is now and where they're heading.
It's a pity an iTard fanboi like yourself has no vision. Maybe you should just stay at home wanking off to your precious Ifone playing World of Warcraft with your ibuddies.

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SEO Training — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:18:15 -0000

I suspect the big news will be when Android is ported to small notebook computers like the ASUS Eee PC. Imagine an Eee PC with a 10 inch high-resolution touch screen and 3G mobile phone capabilities and include a Bluetooth headset. What an awesome combination! Great for the business traveler on the road.

I'm really looking forward to Google getting some success with the Android platform so as to create a bit of competition with Apple's iPhone. I really hope Android plays avi and other video format files including Flash.

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Robert — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:29:47 -0000

I think the iPhone can credit much of it's success to the massive following that Apple seem to have at the moment. It borders on a cult following at this time.

Google are going to have to work very hard to try and compete with that. That said I believe that Google are really going to do a Microsoft on this one. No doubt they will release the software with bugs and we'll have folk calling Android the next Vista. :P

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bdjnk — Fri, 09 May 2008 08:16:11 -0000

Horrible video, I agree. Seems like Google is just bad at PR.

On the other hand, I don't think Google should be the ones doing the publicizing for android. Rather, it should be done by the phone manufacturers and service providers, as they have more experience and a better infrastructure in this regard.

And that leads me to the point of this post. Google was advertising to developers. Those people who are going to make android in to a viable competitor in terms of functionality.

There is time enough later for promotional stunts and gimmicks. What needed to get done asap was the developer involvement. And in this respect Google succeeded.

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Utterly furious — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:06:40 -0000

In the video the speaker says that the ui will be replaced completely. Please watch the video and then make a comment about something that you don't know about.
To all people that make ui comments:
Are you 5 year old kids that when they read a book, they look for the pictures. and when they don't find any pictures, they say the book "sucks"?
(when i say a book, i don't mean a comic book.)

any person that has any computer science education at all can tell you that anything that is still in the development process doesn't have a good ui. so respect that. and don't go blobing around like a mad monkey that sdk is bad untill you actually installed it and created a simple program with it. and i don't mean hello world.

To all people that say: "i am not gonna touch it until it comes out on a real device..." - Be my guest! from my experience it is better to learn the break-through technologies fast to stay ahead of gray faceless mob. so meanwhile you sit and wait, i will be learning. when finally it will strike you and gphone will be handed to you on the silver plater, i will be the one reading your resume.
You say you don't believe it is not going to work? Why not???!!! What is so unbelievably difficult to understand that an open mobile platform gives you a chance to make the transition into the wireless age of small factor devices? Do you think google will just let that one slide through if it fails the first time? Do you think it will just say: "No, after buying a company and waisting 10000000 for android challenge and making fools out of ourselves we will just create an ugly, un-functional, featureless device because we are not really a mobile company. we are just a search engine that does doodles every christmas..." Yeah right...

Also to a guy that thinks Sergey Brin needs a haircut and a speech coach...
First Sergey is probably sorry he assaulted your royal ears.
Second, it is not about wearing a suite like a lot of corporate monkeys out there. i wonder what you would look like if you had a multi-billion dollar business? Oh i am sorry you don't have one, so i guess we will never know.

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Utterly furious — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 03:13:11 -0000

hmmmm

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davodd — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:17:44 -0000

In the late 1980s, I remember emailing to Linus and his frustration that people weren't taking his new Linus project seriously.

They couldn't understand why anyone would move from Unix or MS-DOS to use such a clunky operating system, even if it was open source.

And in the mid-1990s, people pooh-poohed the idea of Java.

The key is that this new Android platform is just starting. We need to avoid the pitfall of presupposing what an open-source software's future will be by how it works at this very moment.

Odds are the Android of the future will not resemble even remotely what is in the above video. And, odds are, it's child or one of its children will be on almost all of our phones within 5-10 years in some form.

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trinest — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:42:30 -0000

Normal people don't use the iPhone idoits do.

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Max — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:43:59 -0000

Google is making some big moves with Android ( http://www.androidapps.org ), OpenSocial, bidding on the wireless spectrum, etc. It will be interesting to see if the could succeed in these areas the way they did with search.

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milan — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:56:30 -0000

I like your videos and opinions, but you are too negative now. Maybe you've traveled too much with the bus lately? "Ok that was just mean, but it had to be said."
Just tell me, who is giving developers (free) platform to make applications for phones (not some sexy reservoir iPhone land), I mean phones for normal people? Ok, this video is boring, but video on OHA with childrens is not boring. Maybe you didn't get it - it's freedom. I've asked my children and my wife what would be their magic phone like and they gave me some crazy use cases. I've looked at android apis and you know what - it's possible to do it. You are just too negative...

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Swaroop — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:56:12 -0000

Just wait and see how the Android is going to be a killer app for Mobiles.
Open Handset Alliance is not a kitty party !

Quoting Sergey Brin.. "The best applications are yet to be made".

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Lyle — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:52:10 -0000

I have been playing with it and have applied for a job with a company that is planning on using the platform. It's real and it's out there.

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Jim — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:30 -0000

Has anyone thought about Google's larger plan, and its big brother effect? I see 2 key strategies they're probably considering:

1. Get google's javascript on as many web sites and web interactions as possible. cookie everything. Know what the world is doing. Know what you are doing. Think about the whole point of adsense, gmail, google reader, and web analytics (look for urchin mention in view source of many websites). "Just paste this tiny bit of javascript into your site.." Doubleclick would bring way to much power to extend what they've already done.

2. Get folks to use the google phone and use speech recognition to know what folks are talking about. insert relevant advertisements at the end of the call. Notice how well their 411Goog works? Remember that old search speech recognition tool they once had up?

The possibilities are getting a bit scary, no?

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mikep — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:10:52 -0000

I agree with Robert, but from a more technical analysis. If I put together a bunch of engineers and asked them to put spec a new OS (of sorts) utilizing mostly open source components, this is what I would expect. Choosing a variant of embedded Linux is straightforward, since it is open source and the alternative is a commercial RTOS. The VM/core library approach is also nice, as it delivers somewhat of a Hardware Abstraction Layer for developers to "write once, run on any Android" handset. But the numerous managers, layers, not to mention the general approach to handling GUI API which looks like the original (if not current) OS X and Windows graphics system shows little vision towards a "next gen" embedded device. The eventual iPhone SDK may allow some innovation in an app's GUI, but it goes without saying that the user interaction/ interface will be limited in some ways to Apple's "Look and Feel." This is a good thing, and why Apple products are generally easy to use. The Android approach seems to invite all forms of GUI which will drive cell phone users crazy. It also ignores the value of 'branding' by cell phone manufacturers and service providers. By placing a simple abstraction layer in the architecture, any app could fit in with, say, a Nokia phone using T-Mobile versus a Sony phone from Verizon, and it could all be done dynamically under the covers without requirements on writing apps themselves.
But the main point is that this looks like a desktop OS - out of the chute it is already too large and multi-layered. We are talking about embedded devices, even allowing for some level of scaling up to ultra portable computing devices. Since we are talking Google, they will get some manufacturers to dip their toes in the water, and probably some of the cell carriers. But even if Google can get this OS to perform adequately on a mobile device, I would conjecture that by the time the manufacturers and carriers are done paring it down, it will not be as much of a 'platform' as Google would like to think.

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Computer Consulting Kit — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:48:21 -0000

It may be too early to call Google a dud in this area.

In 18 years in the IT industry, mostly on the SMB business development side, the one thing I've learned: Never bet against the 800-pound gorilla.

Of course over time, 800-pound gorillas in an industry can turn into 800mg mouses (remember when IBM dominated the PC World, when HP basically owned the laser printer market, when Lotus 123 ruled the finance World, etc.).

But I still wouldn't count Google "out" at this point.

They have a VERY large installed user "base".

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bobo moreno — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:00:25 -0000

Author is so not getting it; this will bring all the OTHER phones up to par with the iPhone... consumer wins

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Daniel Kvasnicka — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:15:24 -0000

I'm fascinated. How can you ciriticize something, that has JUST been released? And what's more, released only for developers?

You know what? Let's talk about this in spring 2008...

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Henry S. — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:36:34 -0000

"They didn’t talk about ONE thing that the iPhone doesn’t do."

Well google.com didn't do anything that yahoo.com didn't do...it didn't even do a fraction of what it did. I don't think anyone would of predicted the success of Google if they had seen an early version of it (they would of just compared features).

In general, it is actually very difficult to predict the success of disruptive technologies. Your way of comparing feature-for-feature is the non-disruptive way. Apple may be happy having 5% of a market (due to wanting to control everything), but someobody has to do something about the other 95%.

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Muchacho — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:35:43 -0000

You are all a bunch of stupids that just blog first before understand what is going on.

Andriod SDK is mean for Developers not for end users.

The demos and videos are just for demostration for DEVELOPERS of what kind of things the platform can do. As we have a compass, GPS, USB, 3D hardware graphics acceleration, Touching, keyboard and much more.

The real phones and marketing, that will depend of Operators and device manufacturers as Motorola, AT&t so on.

Google just gives the Software stack for get one and only one universal platform for mobile devices.

Google what gets from this?, this platform runs webkit and is very integrated with internet features so Google will continue doing what they do best ADS as we can find now in a desktop PC. Google win money with ADS and advertsiments in the internet.

Google doesnt win money with Andriod directly, the device manfucaturers and operators are the winners of what they will build with this Software Stack called Andriod.

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craigbbaker — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:25:48 -0000

You could be very wrong this time Robert.
What Google has presented so far is a very impressive mobile platform. Yes betamax won out against VHS, but the innovation that has gone in to Android from what I've seen makes me think this thing could have legs.
I'm a developer, I enjoyed the videos, I wanted longer videos and more information.

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Robuka Kenderle — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:42:24 -0000

>It was released without a personal approach.

Did you want Sergei to give you a handjob?

>If you want my support for your platform I need to be >able to use it and show it to my friends.

Of course. Because that's what tech is all about, making some geek look cool with his other geek friends.

>The UI looks confused.

You means all phones on the Android platform will look like this?

>Heck, I don’t know of a single developer who
>has had his/her hands on Android.

Wait, Android is not a platform? Its the name of a phone?
Developers on the other hand have their hands on the SDK.
What's that you say?

>Google needs to get atomic videos.
You dont like the editing of the video?

>Google’s PR comes across as “only caring about big >bangs.
Yes, Apple and Microsoft's PR is understated.

>They also kept me from using my video camera during >the press call
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!
Waaaaaaaaaaah!! I need my mommy....
When Apple does one of these they have no rules whatsoever. None.

>It looks too much like a poor copy of the iPhone.
The main reason they should never have used a demo.
Some lame brained writers might think THIS is the phone instead of a platform on which different companies will be able to build different models of phone.

>But what do I know

From the look of it, very little.

More like the judgement and reasoning of my 12 year old nieces who like things that look cool.

#20 is right on the money:
>Saying your not going to switch from the iPhone to >Android is like saying your not trading in your BMW >for a Z Platform. Product != platform.

T-r-y t-o c-o-m-p-r-e-h-e-n-d t-h-i-s.

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Roshuan — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:13:01 -0000

God I love the myopic Apple fanatic world view. Anything anyone does that is not exactly the same as what Apple does automatically sucks, and anything that might remotely resemble something that Apple does is a blatant copy. You folks really need to get some perspective.

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Victor — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:03:15 -0000

Have you noticed how google android looks like iPhone operational system?
Compare the functions shown in the videos below:
weshow.com/us/p/23362/googl...
weshow.com/us/p/18795/iphon...
What do you think? Will google bring iPhone power to everyone who can't afford apple products? That would be great :D

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Steve Ballmer — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:37:47 -0000

"Rhuggle is a bunch of boy scouts with no den-master! They are just
a bunch of spoiled rich kids on a perpetual holiday, no order or
discipline. They only exist in that I allow it, I find them amusing, it's
like watching a house on fire or some other tragedy, you know it's
repulsive but you just can't look away!"
The reporters were taking in my words like Saki, they just couldn't
get enough! So I decided to throw them one more bone!
"I have to go now, but since I'm on Rhuggle, let me say this about
this 'Android" thing they announced: It is just like the rest of Google
..ahem, I mean Rhuggle, IT ONLY EXIST ON PAPER! Don't fall for this
vaporware, rumors, fake-half-baked hype that they peddle!"

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Chad W Smith — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:32:11 -0000

#1 To be a success, Android does not have to kill the iPhone.
#2 I doubt much of anything is going to get people who already have an iPhone to give up their iPhone - Two Year Contracts tend to have that affect on people.
#3 If I just spent $300 - $600 on a phone, I'm not even going to bother looking at other phones for a while, regardless of contracts or not.
#4 You are comparing something that is software only (Android) to a software/hardware package (iPhone). I'm sure there will be a good number of phones that run Android that will be utter crap. And, then there will be some phones that run Android that will kick the iPhone's butt. It's like comparing a Mac and Windows. You don't compare the operating system to the computer. (Mac comes with iLife and a built-in camera and bluetooth - Windows comes with a DVD.) No, you compare a given Mac (MacBook Pro 15") with a given laptop running Windows (Dell XPS with Windows Vista Ultimate, or whatever). Trying to compare what is, in practical terms, vaporware (not that it doesn't exist, but the final product does not yet exist) to the hold-it-in-your-hands iPhone - is not only unfair - it's pointless.