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Re: Gizmodo: Microsoft has its evil back

Kevin Marks — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:49:52 -0000

OK, lets ask a different question. Do QuickTime Player, iTunes and VLC instal and run on this new toy?
If so, you can avoid the evil DRM.

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John C. Welch — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:08:26 -0000

Podesta,

Microsoft has no control over this. They don't make hardware, they don't manufacture it. BallmerGates can promise price points all the livelong day, it's meaningless, because they don't make the widget. The only hardware they can promise a price on in a meaningful fashion is stuff they make. Once you get past the Xbox360 and its crackhead price point, you're down to input accessories.

Never take MS seriously about hardware prices, they have no power or standing to set them.

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Podesta — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:47:47 -0000

tpollack, I was shocked to see that the actual price of the Samsung Origami device is well above even the highest projected price. Puts 'that's all she wrote' to the marketing campaign.

You are not going to get an answer to your questions. Scoble evades substantive issues or uses his resident sycophants, like RL, to change the subject.

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tpollack — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:56:15 -0000

Robert the Samsung Q1 will retail $1199!!! As per Samsung!!! So what would you rather a Dualcor for $1500 or a Q1 for $1200??? Ummm The Q1 is running at 900Mhz!! Dualcor 1.5...

Robert no offense but where is the innovation? Why is it that the Windows Mobile Group and the tablet team never work together? Also that would give you the instant on like the dualcor.

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John C. Welch — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:42:30 -0000

No cider, they aren't. They're great because they have the characteristics that the rest of MS desparately needs:

1) they're focused. They have a line of products that are all related, and work together, and are small in number. The Mac BU's product line is easily recited from memory.

2) They have a clear mission: To make great MS software on the Mac.

3) They don't over hype and under-deliver.

4) They create over 4x the amount of products as the any single Office:Win team, yet they have less people, including the Janitors than even the WinOutlook team.

5) They are not afraid to say "No" or "Not yet" when "Yes" would be a bad idea, even if the customer wants it, and they do so far more straightforward and honestly than any Windows team does. Kevin Brown's blunt reason for not porting Access to the Mac in spite of clear, continual customer demand was a great example. They didn't, and still don't have the resources to do so and still keep producing the software they already do make. Instead, they realized that FileMaker is a great solution on the Mac, and did the work to make Office work better with that product.

6) they aren't afraid of other people's ideas. Office Mac had support for PDF images and PNG alpha channels/transparencies long before Office:Win. Powerpoint on the Mac has transitions that PowerPoint on Windows can't match, and those came from Keynote first. Rather than cobbling together some hacked-arsed version of an MSI, they created a nice drag and drop installer that doesn't vomit files all over the place, unlike some other people, oh, say Adobe.

That is why the Mac BU is one of the best, most productive, and damned sure cheapest divisions in Microsoft, and the only one with a clue about heterogeneous software development and implementation.

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Cider — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:58:02 -0000

John C Welch,

Oh, the Mac BU. They MUST be fantastic, because THEY run MACS!!!!!!!!!

Shut up, you blethering twat.

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John C. Welch — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 07:25:24 -0000

Robert, "evil" implies something calculated, and a deliberate, planned strategy.

Anymore, the entire Windows parts of MS are just like a big, stupid, moose of a kid in a china shop. Oh sure, bad things are going to happen, but it's because the kid is too stupid and uncoordinated to not break crap.

In the 90s, MS was far more calculating about things. These days? Nah, not so much. You're still making all the same mistakes, but now, it's out of habit, not any deliberate plan.

One Example: Where's WPF/E? I mean, besides marketing literature. It got a great bit at the PDC keynote. OOooh...cross platform.

But now, you go looking for it, and it just doesn't seem to exist. No articles in MSDN, no sample code, no examples of how to use it.

I'm sure that somewhere, some prat at MS thinks that they can half-ass this, and sucker people into writing a bunch of WPF code planning on WPF/E, and WPF/E will just never really happen. I know you ignore the subject constantly, but then, you do that when the answer's inconvenient.

So, no, not evil Robert. Just stupid and clumsy. (Excepting the Mac BU, but then I ALWAYS except the Mac BU, for they are everything the rest of MS is not: Focused, aware, running lean, and the best cross-platform team MS has, has ever had, and will ever have. They code RINGS around the rest of Big Dumb MS)

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monk.e.boy — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:39:25 -0000

So much hype, so many sexy looking renders. Then, today, I actually see a working device. I am soooo disapointed. I was expecting something slim :-( something that'd fit in my pocket.

Ah well.

Maybe next year ;-)

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John Tokash — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 03:57:55 -0000

Ooops... my comment was cut off because I used the less-than sign - I guess Wordpress thought I was putting in HTML.

Anyway, Dmad, is it that hard to believe that Robert is just a victim of technolust like I am? I've avoided the windows mobile and wince line of devices forever (I prefer palmos - started with a Pilot, then a Palm III, then a Palm V, then a Tungsten C, then a Palm TX) and I'm really loving the Origami specs so far! I'll most likely be buying one on day one.

Technolust victim != shill. At least, not necessarily.

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scobleizer — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 03:53:08 -0000

tpollock: I like the Dualcor a lot. But it's $1,500. Origami will be less than $1,000. In some cases, a lot less. To many of you that won't be a big deal. For others?

Re: Gizmodo: Microsoft has its evil back

scobleizer — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 03:50:34 -0000

Dmad: like I EVER had any credibility with you!

How about Michael Gartenberg's first take? http://weblogs.jupiterresea...

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John Tokash — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 03:42:04 -0000

Dmad, is it that hard to believe that someone would honestly want to buy an affordable (

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Dmad — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 03:36:05 -0000

#54 "Am I getting one? Yes".

Well, that's a shock! This surprises us....how? Methiks you would be getting one even it was running Windows for Winos 3.11 and had and elograph touch screen. That's how much of a shill you have become. I can't believe you seem to ignore even the most valid of criticisms of this thing. You're not losing credibility daily, you are losing credibility with each post.

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tpollock — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 03:14:43 -0000

Oh Robert I would love to hear your answer...

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Eric H. — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 02:44:06 -0000

#88: Classic..

My God I love Microsoft.

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anon — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 02:40:49 -0000

I find it rather disturbing that an employee of a company in violation of court order - and operating outside the bounds of its antitrust settlement - in the United States and in Europe is talking about evil like it's a positive trait. Nothing a few years in prison for execs and accomplice employees won't fix.

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Christopher Coulter — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 02:31:03 -0000

Back? It never left.

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John Tokash — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 02:18:45 -0000

Video is up
http://www.microsoft.com/do...

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tpollock — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 01:26:51 -0000

oh yeah and I guess this doesn't help but Gizmodo agrees

http://us.gizmodo.com/gadge...

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tpollock — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 01:24:07 -0000

Ooops I forgot ---- 512mb RAM ---- DualCor 1Gig Ram

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Michiel — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 01:22:35 -0000

"Origami devices run the same Windows Tablet PC Edition that my full scale Tablet PC is running."

Bet your tablet doesn't have use Viiv technology. and THERE is the difference. It's not in the software.

Also: Bloggers hate the Origami mainly for the lame attempts at hyping. Or because they're snarky. Lord know I don't like it, but then again, I'm prolly not the market you are aiming for.

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tpollock — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 01:22:32 -0000

Robert I am freakin lost here and I truly think you drank too much Microsoft Cool-Aid.. First things first..

Can I say DUALCOR!!!

Robert what does it say when a private company who has "NO INS" at Microsoft creates a product with Windows XP Tablet and Windows Mobile 5 (TO GIVE INSTANT ON) something Intel is saying they are going to try to do in 2007!!!

What does Microsoft say when they can have INSTANT ON FUNCTIONALITY if they just use the OS like DUALCOR is!!

Second PRICE!! 1,000 Freakin dollars? Must I say it again.. Dualcor 1,500 freaking dollars?

Third Speed!!! INTEL CELERON!!! 900MHz!!!! DUALCOR 1.5GHZ!!!!!!

Fourth Weight... 2.0lbs .... Dualcor 1.1lbs

Robert I am not trying to be a jerk but if someone slaps a Samsung, Acer or Intel logo on a box with Microsoft they tend to go WOOOHEEEE..

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J. Random Poster — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 00:57:10 -0000

John,

A few days ago, I needed to run an experiment with streaming the video from an iSight camera to another host (unicast). Starting from scratch, never having launched the Quicktime Broadcaster App, it took me about twenty minutes to have the video showing up on the other machine. That was with me just frobbing the controls, rather than reading the documentation. ;-)

So, WM servers are a PITA to set up? Gee, who'd have imagined that?

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Frank Mucklo — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 00:53:23 -0000

This is the car pc I've been waiting for. Mount it on the dashboard. GPS. Down load podcasts with wifi. Play your mp3 files. This might just be perfect for that drive time commute. Load Itunes and and let it update with your wireless router at home when you pull into the garage. Satalite radio will die. Bring it in at the $500 price range and you have a winner!

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Eric H. — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 00:04:40 -0000

P.P.S. I have two Macs, two iPods, and two PCs. They all know their roles.