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Re: Facebook Hotel?

Morgan — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:20:27 -0000

I accept facebook is not a one way medium and also i don't find anything i published myself... To show that face book is not a one way the examples which you have denoted is correct and it makes the point valid..
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bali villa — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:07:27 -0000

i guess i must have a lunch woth you so i can get free publicity..LOL

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Celeb Gossip — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:51:09 -0000

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Re: Facebook Hotel?

Bora Zivkovic — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 01:06:50 -0000

Interesting to know that posting on someoene's Wall increases mutual visibility on the Feed. It also appears that even closer relationships, involving, e.g., poking and messaging, do not have the same effect. We have messaged a number of times, yet I rarely see your activity on my home page. But, like you, I have tons of 'friends' on there so, unlike some of your friends who complain, your stuff gets drowned out by the activity of hundreds of others I know there.

Re: Facebook Hotel?

Mary — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:06:01 -0000

Facebook is very popular, and I agree -- there is no need for them to advertise.

Re: Facebook Hotel?

Robert Scoble — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:57:12 -0000

Richard: agreed.

JW Marriot: actually there's one company that gets very close to this already: Disney.

Re: Facebook Hotel?

Richard Callaby — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:05:07 -0000

Robert,

Thanks for the reply. I do have a few close friends not like you who has friends in the 100's. I guess that makes a difference. It would be nice though to have more customization on a social utility app but then again it would be complicated to manage on both ends.

By the way I never send photos but links to files containing the photos. That way they do not get marked as spam or placed in the junk folder.

Personal touches count even in this web 2.0 world and it would be nice if these apps allowed for more of that.

Re: Facebook Hotel?

JW Marriot — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:37:20 -0000

@34 Josh has a good point Save for business travel, we find that the majority of people go to hotels to escape from their known world. The last thing they want is to be reminded from whence they came. What most people want from a hotel is for them to give them great service. Remember the type of room they like, the type of bedding and amenities. And most hotels that could afford to provide the service you describe, Robert seem to already have frequent guest offerings where they track your preferences. I would also think a hotel that would provide the services you describe would likely be one of the most expensive hotels around, given what they would need in place to provide and manage that.

Re: Facebook Hotel?

Robert Scoble — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:37:15 -0000

Richard: email is great until you have too much. Then you'll start getting pushback.

Glad you have so much time to personally email all your friends. I find I have too many friends (even if you count just the "real ones" that I've had a beer with as a friend) to do this.

I'm hitting this big time in about a week or two with the birth of my son.

I will not have time to email 100 people individually and deal with all that. Email sucks, personally.

Instead I'll put up a private Facebook group and invite people into it that I want to have see the photos. This way I can hit 100 friends and family instantly without doing much work.

No, if you need to customize what each friend sees, email is more appropriate. But generally that isn't the case.

It bugs me when I get photos sent to me in email, by the way. It fills up my storage space, if you do it wrong, and it clutters up my space that's for real communication with other people. Not to mention it might get thrown into junk folder, so I'd miss it.

Re: Facebook Hotel?

Richard Callaby — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:22:11 -0000

Robert,

Perhaps you are right that some people just do not get facebook. Count me in on that crowd. I like a personal touch when interacting with my friends. For instance after my trip overseas I had a bunch of photos to share with a lot of my friends. i could have just posted them up on Facebook and then asked everyone to join facebook to see my pictures. No instead I customized each email to each friend based upon what I knew they would like the most. Each friend recieved an individualized treatment and was not forced to read an aggregator of my life. I know what each and every one of my friends prefer and try to cater to that need. I do not believe you can do this with facebook. Am I missing something? I am not trying to be confrontational here I am just curious if is possible to customize what each friend sees. If that is not possible then I would rather spend the time to make sure each friend was treated differently because each one is different. When a social utility allows me to give a personal touch then I will understand this social utility sites. Otherwise it is old fashioned email and good time spent on each friend.

So I guess I do not get facebook. I think my friends are thankful for that though.

Re: Facebook Hotel?

RBA — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 02:35:47 -0000

Robert, you might find this interesting reading, or perhaps utopically boring:
http://bradfitz.com/social-...

It's 5 days old but it still applies :-)

Re: Facebook Hotel?

steve — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:30:37 -0000

Let's see, Google knows every person I have sent or received email from for the last three years.

Google knows just about every place I have visited by car.

Google knows where I have traveled, where I stayed when I was there, what sites I planned on visiting, and where I intended to eat.

Google can guess when I am about to buy a new car, household appliance, phone, television, computer, etc. It can surmise which car, phone, or camera I decided to purchase by my queries for a service departments phone number and what accessories I research.

Google knows what events I attend, which blogs I find interesting and which I don't, what news I read, what issues I find important. Google probably knows what political party I support and who I will vote for next November.

Google can guess what ailments my friends or family are suffer from. Google can guess when a close friend or family member dies.

Google knows a lot about me.

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truden — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:04:56 -0000

That's why I love you, Scoble, your tongue speaks your emotions :D
I have some clue about the way Facebook works, but I won't argue with expert like you ;)

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art — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:08:54 -0000

I want a facebook grocery store.

Re: Facebook Hotel?

Robert Scoble — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:56:47 -0000

meanguy: Google doesn't know my favorite music. It doesn't know my favorite activities. It doesn't know my favorite friends. It doesn't know a lot of things that Facebook does.

Truden: if my Facebook friends aren't getting enough out of the relationship I'd expect them to unsubscribe.

But, you don't have a clue how Facebook works. I get brought a lot of stuff from people I've never heard of before, not just the most "active," either.

Re: Facebook Hotel?

meanguy — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:45:01 -0000

The hotel problem has little to do with Facebook -- it's a open authentication + shared profile problem. Facebook at the moment solves neither and is not positioned to solve either.

The hard part isn't the authentication or the tracking, it's guarding the profile data and building confidence with the users to allow them to share that data with trusted third parties approved by the user.

I see you've forgotten Hailstorm? Six and a half years ago:

[[ "HailStorm" services will allow unprecedented collaboration and integration between the users' devices, their software and their personal data. With "HailStorm", users will have even greater and more specific control over what people, businesses and technologies have access to their personal information. ]]

Perhaps give Lucovsky a call? Google has far more users and far more valuable profile data than Facebook does... and it ain't comin' from Orkut.

Re: Facebook Hotel?

mario romero — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:01:26 -0000

scraping facebook feeds: bernard is right! :) he would need to scrape the feed (off of the main news-feeds) the ones that facebook already provides are status updates and notifications. I think facebook might probably try to block something like this tough.

RBA: the fact that most facebook apps work "inside" facebook is a design or implementation choice, not a requirement of the platform. i.e. having the app display inside fb saves a lot of developer time (design/seesion tracking/fbml). I'm pretty sure however we will start seeing many external sites using the FB platform soon.

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James — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:48:30 -0000

The idealistic side of me says, yah that'd be a super cool hotel, but the realist in me is saying, would people seriously want a hotel to know their friends, and everything about them? I'm worried about even giving my phone number to Canadian Tire or BestBuy when I make a return for fear of being added to some consumer calling-list. When I travel, I like to remain somewhat anonymous and take out my own experiences. I know privacy is so 20th century!!! ps. YummyFriends.com a Facebook for grown-ups.

Re: Facebook Hotel?

Ed Brenegar — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:46:10 -0000

Facebook and blogging are two separate phenomenas. Facebook is a virtual "third place" and blogs are "personal magazines". I love both vehicles for self-expression. This notion that Facebook is not for pushing content is silly. If you are not trying to present something about yourself to someone else, what are you doing? If you don't want to present yourself to the world, then you can pull content from a Google search, and no one will know you are there.
I like Facebook for the same reasons you suggest Scoble. It is a way to stay in touch with other people, and them with me. I've been Facebooking (verb?) for a couple months. I've had more contact with some old friends in those few weeks than I have had in more than a decade. What I've come to realize is that Facebook serves a population that blogging doesn't. I know lots of people who have a Facebook site, but never read blogs. And if they add the Blog Friends application, they don't need a RSS reader, all they need is to see what their friends are reading, and connect from there. It this sense Facebook acts as a portal, where blogs don't. Both have their value, it is just different. What also interests me is how different Facebook is to MySpace. Now if there is a social networking site that is about pushing content, then MySpace is the king, not Facebook.

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JoCh — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:32:01 -0000

Neat idea--the hotel. It's also, no offense, a place that I'd never ever ever want to book a reservation at (course, carried to an extreme I probably wouldn't even have to book the reservation, it'd just know :-)).

The levels of customization companies can take advantage of to offer good customer service, could be amazingly useful, but it also freaks me out. I think it prevents us from exposure to the dangerous, possibly thought and preference-changing, elements of the unknown.

I mean, I both need and want to hear new music in order to be able to ever list it as a "like." Sometimes I hear that new music from friends, sometimes playing in a store, or even a hotel lobby.

I don't want my hotel room to automatically be showing me my photos on digital displays. If it did, they risk becoming mundane and boring, rather than important and dear. Let me live out my trip to wherever, experiencing the new as opposed to the known.

The great sadness in molding experience to predefined customer preferences is that we seal ourselves into some time passed, that was captured in memory and tastes, and we discourage growing beyond that.

(by the way, although I'm no fan of advertising, it peeves me that when I look at a British web site, I get exposed to Canadian ads because it detects where I'm surfing from--I want to know what's going on in England, that's why I went to the English site).

Re: Facebook Hotel?

Chris Hajer — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:23:25 -0000

Scoble, I like the new, longer, in-depth posts from the past couple days. The break has served you well. I much prefer comments, thoughts and analysis like this from you than short blurbs pointing out things that are going on it the tech world.

Re: Facebook Hotel?

truden — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:21:54 -0000

@ hugh macleod:
Yes, they can unsubscribe, if there is no hope for them that one day Scoble will notice them :D

It is the circle of the hope, but as we know, the more you have the more you get.

Re: Facebook Hotel?

TDavid — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:55:51 -0000

"I’m starting to delete comments from people who don’t add any value here. Get your own blog if all you want to do is attack me."

Good decision, Robert :)

Re: Facebook Hotel?

jptrenn — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:33:30 -0000

After watching the video, this Facebook Hotel sounds positively Orwellian. Big screens that tell your data. RFID cards that automatically tell others your interests. I'll save a few bucks and stay in a Motel 8.

Re: Facebook Hotel?

hugh macleod — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:05:33 -0000

Truden, if Scoble's "friends" object to what you call Scoble "pushing", they unsubscribe from Scoble with a simple click of a mouse.

i.e. Again, they can act like grownups.