Hi Robert, To clarify this: popurls is no company or startup but just an aggregator of popular websites - amanda will post a daily collection of interesting links on popurls, that's it - nothing more
best, thomas
Robert Scoble
· 3 years ago
Thomas: oh, that's good. Catch my attention and don't even get her to do a video show? That's really lame on both PopURLs and Amanda's part. She should have made sure that the first news we heard about her was a video show.
People are forgetting who she is. Every day she waits she loses more value -- the mainstream press won't pay attention to this story anymore, they've already moved on. That's really sad. If she had announced something new within the first few days she could have really added a lot of attention to something.
Oh well.
Thomas
· 3 years ago
Robert, Take a look at her blog - i guess she'll be doing a videoblog in sept. - the popurls thing is just a little side-activity nothing more.
Thomas
· 3 years ago
Robert, One more: popurls has been around for half a year and is quite popular among the web-savvy club. Amanda likes it, too - and she will post links to popurls. i don't know what's wrong about that and please note that popurls is no commercial project. you might remember that you even mentioned it in one of your posts: http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/2006/04/15/
Thomas
· 3 years ago
... and i used the alternative link to wikipedia as there were still users around who didn't know about her. believe it or not :/
Robert Scoble
· 3 years ago
Thomas: remember, I'm a weirdo. The reason you explain that stuff and link to both her page and her Wikipedia page, is NOT for people like me, but for normal everyday people who MIGHT come along because someone is talking about a celebrity that they read about in some magazine.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
"popurls has been around for half a year and is quite popular among the web-savvy club."
Silly me, I thought marketing was about drawing new users.
Todd
· 3 years ago
I think you are way overreacting to this. All she is doing is publishing her del.ici.us links to popurls. It seems like making too big a deal out of a minor feature addition like this would be needless hype.
Robert Scoble
· 3 years ago
Todd: the problem is that everyone is paying attention to Amanda cause she quit Rocketboom. So, EVERYTHING she does is going to get attention. The fact that neither her, nor Thomas, understood this is sad. This was a good opportunity for her to really help out a new site get some attention. And, it was a good chance for that site to link back to her, giving her some Google juice and traffic in return. Oh well. I'm getting bored now.
Thomas
· 3 years ago
I'm neither forcefully hunting for new users nor involved in her personal goals with her projects - just wanted to enjoy that she's doing some exclusive cross-posting. sure, there might be more potential but i'm a few thousand miles away and we europeans just can't keep up with all the new-media juggernauts ;)
brem
· 3 years ago
Robert, I must admit I had no idea what Amanda would be doing at popurl. she had to explain it to me on her blog. Shaky press release, but hey... it's only a press release ;)
tim
· 3 years ago
Robert, I respectfully have to disagree with you on this one, and I'm surprised you haven't yet corrected yourself, as you seem to have jumped the gun. It's pretty clear now Thomas was writing on the popurl blog for his dedicated audience, not launching a PR campaign, and they got it just fine and were happy to hear the news (check the comments). You can disagree if you like, but he doesn't have any more obligation to write on his blog for "normal everyday people" than you do -- it's easy enough for anyone interested and familiar with a Google search (except you, I guess) to find more info on popurls and amanda anyway.
As for Amanda being a video star, and everything she does having to have a video element -- well, that's showing some limited imagination, isn't it?
Robert Scoble
· 3 years ago
Tim: there is no such thing as a "dedicated audience" now that there's blog search engines like Technorati. Write "Amanda" on your blog and many of us will pay attention and try to read something deeper into it.
No, it's not showing some limited imagination. It's what her audience is waiting to see from her since that's the EXPECTATION that she built up in her audience by almost solely appearing on Rocketboom for more than a year.
If she had done lots of blogging and video then the expectation would be different.
Have I gone overboard, though? Sure. Yeah, I'll cop to that.
W.O.
· 3 years ago
You could put Amanda under an armadillo in south Texas and someone would know what she was doing there.
Brad L
· 3 years ago
Sorry scoble but you seem to be mad that you didn't get her for podtech?
Guy
· 3 years ago
Actually, though this combined effort doesn't seem too interesting to me (why exactly are Amanda's links supposed to be just as interesting as those aggregrated by all the services relying on hundreds of thousands of users?) I really like popurls. Great way to keep your senseless surfing habits contained to 1 site, so you can keep productivity up by not RSSing their feeds continiously.
Christopher Coulter
· 3 years ago
It will still be news, if she gets something Burbanky or Hollywoodish...
These geeky tinker-toy games, matter not...
Robert Scoble
· 3 years ago
BradL: Let's assume I was mad. Why would I be? Because I saw a potential to get PR and make money for my new company and that potential had mostly evaporated. Let's look at the facts. A month ago Amanda's Unboomed site had MANY TIMES the traffic and attention it does today. So, any chance to hire her and make a big PR splash has already gone away. Anyone who hires her today will get far less PR than if they had done it a month ago.
If anything I'm sad at opportunity lost.
Yeah, she'll still make a big splash in the pool when she finally jumps into something, but that splash will be dramatically smaller than if she had done it a month ago.
It all makes me sad. Value evaporating without being used is sad.
Christopher Coulter
· 3 years ago
Assuming you are the Judge and Jury of what determines "value", is the first mistake, maybe she already has something big that can't comment upon just yet...
Robert Scoble
· 3 years ago
Christopher: if it were just me, I wouldn't say anything, but quite a few people say that the value of such an announcement is dramatically lower today than it would have been a month ago.
Like I said, she'll make a big splash in the pool. No doubt about that. But whoever does end up getting her probably will wish she would have signed a deal with her a month ago.
Even if that does end up to be Podtech, by the way. My feedback to her has been consistent ever since the first day (I left it on her blog so you can verify that).
jeneane
· 3 years ago
Holy crap, Robert. If we were basing our interactions with you based on "value"--which I am ever since you asked that only readers who add value to your life participate here--then what's your value now that Microsoft's behind you?
Man, you're out of bounds again. Close the Dave Winer playbook and be yourself.
brem
· 3 years ago
Robert: in life, not everything is about maximizing and profit.
Well, in my life it isn't.
Is that why I'm poor? hehe
Robert Scoble
· 3 years ago
jeneane: well, since I left Microsoft my compensation went up and my readership went up, so my value is doing just fine, thank you very much.
Where the hell did you get that I was basing interactions with Amanda based on her value here?
Ask Jason Calacanis if his job offer still stands for Amanda. Or, ask someone who prices out actors' compensation. A person's visibility affects their value.
And, when I say "value" I'm not talking about their value as a human being, but their value to drive economic change.
I also am glad that I have arrogant readers who love to "keep me in bounds."
Robert Scoble
· 3 years ago
brem: of course life is more than "value" or money or all that. I love sitting on the beach and picking lint out of my navel as much as the next guy. But when life hands you opportunity (as it has with Amanda) isn't it a shame when you don't do the most with that opportunity as absolutely possible?
Steven
· 3 years ago
She is doing a video.
Jason
· 3 years ago
Rob, why not stop this denunciation? Actually Thomas got more user-traffic behind him than your blog.
Robert Scoble
· 3 years ago
Jason: It's not a denounciation. Thanks for NOT reading what I'm writing. It's my opinion that Amanda isn't making the most of her opportunity and that Thomas could have done a LOT better job here.
If you thik that's a denounciation, then we can't even have a conversation here.
Thomas has more traffic behind him? Really. Can you back that up please? Cause Amanda linked to me today and she sure doesn't have it. Where's all this so-called "traffic?"
Also, why the anonymity. If you're going to make statements like that maybe you should come clean and let the world know who you really are.
but now let's close that unintentional discussion on value proposition or whatever 8/
Robert Scoble
· 3 years ago
Thomas: I'd hope that a site that aggregates many people's work together does better than my little old efforts. But what you should be comparing to is TailRank, TechMeme, and Digg.
"there is no such thing as a “dedicated audience” now that there’s blog search engines like Technorati. Write “Amanda” on your blog and many of us will pay attention and try to read something deeper into it."
Maybe Technorati isn't all it's cracked up to be? ;-)
Nick Douglas
· 3 years ago
Dear God, people, UNCLENCH. Scoble, I'm sick of people sending me links to your on-blog arguments. What happened to your conflict avoidance plan? I honestly think it was a healthy plan to pursue.
ariuimurme
· 1 year ago
You might also want to check out http://www.GetMyScoop.com. It is a newly created web-based customizable feed aggregator that also allows users to post their own content. I am the owner and developer of the website so if you are wondering about my objectivity of this post, I encourage you to visit the site yourself and check out its features. I built it as a proof of concept to learn first hand what you can do nowadays with very limited resources (only myself working evenings on and off for about 6 months). If you have any feedback, please use the "contact us" page on the website to get in touch with me. Popurls was one of the inspirations. My aim was to create a website that is completely free to use and empower users to the fullest extent possible in giving them the freedom they deserve with regard to both consuming and creating Internet content. I hope this goal is achieved as the website gets more and more popular and as I add more features in the future. Your feedback is greatly appreciated.
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To clarify this: popurls is no company or startup but just an aggregator of popular websites - amanda will post a daily collection of interesting links on popurls, that's it - nothing more
best,
thomas
People are forgetting who she is. Every day she waits she loses more value -- the mainstream press won't pay attention to this story anymore, they've already moved on. That's really sad. If she had announced something new within the first few days she could have really added a lot of attention to something.
Oh well.
Take a look at her blog - i guess she'll be doing a videoblog in sept. - the popurls thing is just a little side-activity nothing more.
One more: popurls has been around for half a year and is quite popular among the web-savvy club. Amanda likes it, too - and she will post links to popurls. i don't know what's wrong about that and please note that popurls is no commercial project. you might remember that you even mentioned it in one of your posts:
http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/2006/04/15/
Silly me, I thought marketing was about drawing new users.
As for Amanda being a video star, and everything she does having to have a video element -- well, that's showing some limited imagination, isn't it?
No, it's not showing some limited imagination. It's what her audience is waiting to see from her since that's the EXPECTATION that she built up in her audience by almost solely appearing on Rocketboom for more than a year.
If she had done lots of blogging and video then the expectation would be different.
Have I gone overboard, though? Sure. Yeah, I'll cop to that.
These geeky tinker-toy games, matter not...
If anything I'm sad at opportunity lost.
Yeah, she'll still make a big splash in the pool when she finally jumps into something, but that splash will be dramatically smaller than if she had done it a month ago.
It all makes me sad. Value evaporating without being used is sad.
Like I said, she'll make a big splash in the pool. No doubt about that. But whoever does end up getting her probably will wish she would have signed a deal with her a month ago.
Even if that does end up to be Podtech, by the way. My feedback to her has been consistent ever since the first day (I left it on her blog so you can verify that).
Man, you're out of bounds again. Close the Dave Winer playbook and be yourself.
Well, in my life it isn't.
Is that why I'm poor? hehe
Where the hell did you get that I was basing interactions with Amanda based on her value here?
Ask Jason Calacanis if his job offer still stands for Amanda. Or, ask someone who prices out actors' compensation. A person's visibility affects their value.
And, when I say "value" I'm not talking about their value as a human being, but their value to drive economic change.
I also am glad that I have arrogant readers who love to "keep me in bounds."
If you thik that's a denounciation, then we can't even have a conversation here.
Thomas has more traffic behind him? Really. Can you back that up please? Cause Amanda linked to me today and she sure doesn't have it. Where's all this so-called "traffic?"
Also, why the anonymity. If you're going to make statements like that maybe you should come clean and let the world know who you really are.
http://www.alexaholic.com/popurls.com+scobleize...
and the technorati race goes to you
but now let's close that unintentional discussion on value proposition or whatever 8/
Here's a chart comparing you to TechMeme: http://www.alexaholic.com/popurls.com+www.techm...
And Digg leaves us both in the dust:
http://www.alexaholic.com/popurls.com+www.digg....
So?
Huh, I wrote about Amanda on my blog last month ( http://www.jasonlefkowitz.net/blog1archive/2006... ) and I wasn't exactly deluged from attention by A-listers.
Maybe Technorati isn't all it's cracked up to be? ;-)