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This has to be done. If bill gates is against this then Apple's recent advances in marketshare won't be just a near-term surge they will be cumulative.  Microsoft cannot continue to invest resources in this manner eventually Apple will overtake them due to the growing waste of human resources at Microsoft.<br><br>Also Microsoft should go to a yearly release cycle like Apple.  I am not interested in their products and 5 years of waiting between releases to get innovation.  Not interested in the least.<br><br>Cheers<br>Roger<br><a href=\"http://www.techwinter.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.techwinter.com</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_01:05:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ff2316f767c8a712eea00444aa660a7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708289": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Memo to Scoble: even though still Chairman of the Board, Gates no longer setting strategy at Microsoft.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_01:00:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "aac1b21966f654f5febb0e145d88a9cd", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708290": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Pardon my ignorance, but why COULDN'T they do a complete rewrite with a rock-solid emulator for older apps? That's part of what worked in Apple's favor: don't break older apps but still set them off in their own little neighborhood to gradually wean people off them and point them to a brighter future. It'll work, but again, we're talking ROCK SOLID for this to succeed. Isn't it better to make this transition by choice rather than out of desperation like Apple had to?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_12:28:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "40c085d533b224e2898bef5399befd79", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708291": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Dude, did you actually read the article? It was actually well-researched and well-written, and even if something like Midori is 10-plus years out, Microsoft has to do something along these lines because Windows as we know it is a dying breed. But I guess Microsoft cronies like you can't see that<br><br>Wonder why MSFT missed the boat on the Web? They couldn't see the forest for the trees. Maybe they don't want to make that mistake again. And maybe you shouldn't make it for them either. I think you're just angry David scooped you.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_11:22:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "03d1b2d256a656eeeced7740d384fb56", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708292": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "VM technology, if properly integrated, would allow old apps like 123 to run on (along side) a completly new OS in a transparent way.   Such an architecture has importnat advantages for security that are end-user marketable.   Politics, not technology, have always been in the way of inovation at the Soft.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_12:08:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "36eccba6f27fe04c7aafec12f548b60a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708293": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I've known David Worthington for a long time, and he's one of the more tech-savvy reporters on the beat.  Not an idiot by a long shot.  Maybe you need to rethink your assumptions, and read the article more closely.   Quotes in the article from MSFT clearly say that its a research project and 10 years off if at all.<br><br>jim", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_10:57:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "0004e70631a54f073a1f7e8468853b45", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708295": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "&gt; For example, in managed code you can\u2019t manipulate pointers, so you can have all your processes and the kernel sharing the same address space, running in kernel mode, without worrying that one of the programs is going to behave badly and corrupt memory belonging to the kernel.<br><br>Not to get geekish, but you're overstating the benefits and ignoring the costs.  Yes, there are system calls where the cost of switching address spaces and protection domains is significant, but for a running system, it isn't because most calls do enough work that the switch cost is negligible.<br><br>And, you still have to manage/control managed applications even if they're running in the same address space.  It's not enough to avoid corruption, you've got to control usage as well.  (You probably even want to manage addresses for VM efficiency.)  Separate address spaces help with some of these things.<br><br>It's unlikely that there's any advantage when it comes to data for OS calls and IO, but that argument would require some actual numbers.<br><br>The key point remains that this is old stuff.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_18:49:41", "killed": false, "user_key": "23743b93ffddd1558bbddc96a461444d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708296": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Breaking past APPs is not that scary a thing with nowadays virtualization technologies. You could put in some virtual environment to simulate the previous OS so that old APPs still have a place if you need them. MS is not going to let compatibility issues bother them forever.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-08-01_00:47:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "9d266fe63540cf2be4f4b8dc084638f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708297": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Actually, this is what they are going to try to do. Computing from the cloud.<br><br>With the .net framework installed in you machine, you can add .net controls to a web page and if viewed thru Internet Explorer the controls will run. They basically give you the look and feel of the OS but in a web page and you don't have to compile all that AJAX in the browser to get that interactivity.<br><br>So far less code is embedded in the OS and more of it can be delivered thru the browser and yet you will have the options for you to add them to your online application but deliver them thru the browser.<br><br>And yes, these types of .net apps can interact with the local OS on your machine just like embedded software programs do.<br><br>So, instead of having a version of Windows installed on your machine, you have the basic needs to get the machine booted and then the rest is delivered thru the browser.<br><br>Microsoft has been pushing this to developers for years, but you have to run IE for the controls to be recognized.<br><br>This would make Windows more secure because MS would control their GUI from their servers and updates would no longer be so invasive of constantly necessary.<br><br>If you want to learn more about this, Google \"microsoft thin client\"", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-08-05_11:52:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "2286180cb5a4e358c71a9e76e855400f", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708298": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"Andy: the programmers at Microsoft tell me that managed code is a TON easier to write. Mostly cause you don\u2019t have to do so much worrying about memory and all that. At least that\u2019s what they tell me. The downside? Performance, memory usage, and also engineering tools to help figure out where bugs are and all that.\"<br><br>And again, you don't know what you're talking about.  Performance isn't really an issue (top Microsoft employees demonstrated this), especially when a \"managed OS\" will have already loaded the runtime.  Memory usage is manageable.  Engineering tools exist already and are, if anything, are more robust due to reflection and other aspects of managed code.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_15:38:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "945693af19a797221e6b7fd418feb9ff", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708299": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Then unless MS does something super risky like start a brand-new OS alongside Windows that's tempting enough to start getting people (especially cutting edge users) to transition over, I dunno what they can do. Apple is going through another coding rewrite for efficiency with Snow Leopard which will I assume be Intel only, rewrite anything still using more Carbon code than it should (*cough*Finder*cough*), and speed things up across the board. It's not anywhere near as radical as going from OS 9 to OS X but it sure seems like something you need to do every few years to stay competitive.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_16:24:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "40c085d533b224e2898bef5399befd79", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708300": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I shouldn't have used the word \"interesting\" - there's no question that managed code has benefits.  (Remember, I wrote that I've written managed code.)<br><br>\"Difficult\" was the key word - why is it hard for MS to write an OS using managed code?  It's been done a couple of times before.  (I even mentioned a couple of them in the parenthetical and there are others.)<br><br>You do know that \"managed code\" is merely MS-speak for code that has certain properties and that MS didn't invent any of those properties or even their combination, right?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_18:28:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "23743b93ffddd1558bbddc96a461444d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708301": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "This is not some deep secret, there's plenty of publicly available info on Midori on the web.<br><br>There's a project called \"singularity\" at MS which is basic research into the fundamentals of operating systems. How programs message each other and the kernel, how process isolation works, how APIs and API calling should work, etc. This is not an OS in any sense, it's a mock system designed for exploring certain questions in OS design. All of the most popular OSes currently in use inherit a great deal of design fundamentals from older OSes, in a very real sense modern OSes are still working with the same design tradeoffs (in performance, robustness, development complexity, etc.) made in the 1970s. Singularity is research into how to gain advantage from revisiting some of these fundamental OS design decisions. It's not the core of an OS, it's not a kernel, it's a research tool.<br><br>Midori takes that research one or two steps further, building on the Singularity work to explore what consequences some of the Singularity results have for OS design and application development. Additionally, Midori looks at how it might be possible to make some of these new OS design concepts practical, and to merge them into future operating systems that people actually use. Fundamentally this means they are working at showing that these concepts are feasible to build into operating systems and have practical benefits, which will give them the credibility necessary to convince the folks in the Windows division to take these ideas seriously and start merging some of the features into new versions of Windows.<br><br>Midori is not some super secret Skunk Works project which designed to surprise the whole world with a revolutionary new OS to replace Windows. Unfortunately, Midori has become the object of a great deal of rumor mongering which has resulted in every manner of claim being made about it, without any shred of backing. Midori will shine your shoes and walk your dog automatically, it will be a cloud computing OS, it will \"replace\" Windows, it will be \"web-centric\", etc, etc, etc. Most of these are ridiculous claims.<br><br>FYI:<br>The Singularity public web page:<br><a href=\"http://research.microsoft.com/os/singularity/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://research.microsoft.com/os/singularity/</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_19:50:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "441c2fc2c06a0f9d736798d180e42154", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708302": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The app-compat issue is easily solved: spin up an isolated, hardware virtualized instance of Vista/XP/whatever, whenever you need it. What else are we going to do with all those other processor cores not being used?<br><br>There are very few technical hurdles left to achieving this reality. Given this to be true, I no longer buy the argument that you *can't* rewrite from scratch because of app-compat issues.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_23:29:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "d1e17294699d36168452dd7a370ccfc9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708303": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hmm. They did it once already.<br><br>\"... Xbox runs a custom operating system built from the ground up.  While our operating system exports many of the same APIs found in Win32 (e.g. CreateThread or WaitForSingleObject), not everything is there.  For instance, there is no use for CreateWindow on Xbox - all graphics are done through (our own flavor of) Direct3D.\"<br><br><a href=\"http://blogs.msdn.com/xboxteam/archive/2006/02/17/534421.aspx\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://blogs.msdn.com/xboxteam/archive/2006/02/...</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-31_01:16:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "c1534b96921fd6b2cb0be0687ebab300", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708304": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Transcript of the conversation interceded between Jon DeVaan and Bill Gates:<br><br>Jon DeVaan: \"Hi ..\"<br>Bill email (subject): \"Have u tried Vista, what's the matter with the performances?\"<br>Jon DeVaan: \"Nvidia, Ausus, ..\"<br>Bill  email (subject): \"And what's about us..\"<br>Jon DeVaan: \"Nvidia, Ausus, ..\"<br>Bill  email (subject): \"We have no responsibility?\"<br>Jon DeVaan: \"Maybe..\"<br>Bill email (subject): \"What?\"<br>Jon DeVaan: \".Net Sir\"<br>Bill  email (subject): \"Aaaaaaahhh.. .Neeeet!\"<br>Bill  email (subject): \"Don't disclose it!\"<br>Some days later..<br>Bill  email (subject): \"Let's the guys of the research starts a new OS. And wWe'll go to check what .Net is and what is not too, ah-ah-ah!\"", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-31_06:08:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "46588a710bf2790992da872fadc1c9e1", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708305": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Lol! as a matter of fact bill gates put a challenge to big giants like yahoo, etc to come up with an effiecient operating system of their own that can take the market, especially become favourite of the house wives. Lets see if they can beat that.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-31_15:50:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "8d94102cb10d0677df31b6f9545d5c53", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708306": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I think Vista gets a failing grade when it comes to backwards compatibility.  The Windows team made so many breaking changes in Vista in the name of security.  One of the biggest blunders of Vista in this area is it's inability to run IE6.<br><br>I'm sure we'd all like to see IE6 go away, but for many businesses who have built web apps on the IE6 platform (that didn't change in years when it was around), they've found that their web apps don't work in IE7.  So, for them, Vista is not an option.<br><br>It seems that Microsoft is in a bit of predicament.  Their current OS suffers from backwards compatibility issues, and people will not move to it because of that, yet it keeps all of the baggage of being built upon an aging and obsolete design.  When you think about it, Vista gives you all the disadvantages of a new OS while giving you all the disadvantages of an old OS.  Microsoft has completely gotten it backwards with Vista.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-08-01_05:36:26", "killed": false, "user_key": "a0a6eb2d4bbb53c6770884e5cc78c1ea", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708307": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Indeed we are working on a new OS, so there!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-08-02_01:28:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "776c6abf3926ec876a39cd4b49067389", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708308": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I agree Robert<br><br>Why would Microsoft rewrite a successful Os for a long time. People griped about about 95 98 and xp. Now that Vista is out people gripe even more.<br><br>Older apps don't work, it hogs memory and my favorite the User Account Control is annoying me. If Apple did twice as much, people wouldn't bat an eye.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-08-02_08:46:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "548504d0aaebfcdbc2e02ee10106216b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708309": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I admit it! Apple is better at propaganda!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-08-02_11:14:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "776c6abf3926ec876a39cd4b49067389", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708310": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Robert Scoble: \"... an emulator would break thousands of apps and cause many others to run really crappy. I\u2019ve run Windows on VMWare and Parallels. I hated it. Even though it ran it was slow and buggy on both and tons of apps wouldn\u2019t run at their full potential. ..\"<br><br>Robert Scoble needs to try this again. I've got Windows XP running on VMWare on two cores of a four core Mac Pro right now, and I've never seen it crash, \"run buggy\" or \"crappy\" or fail to run a software application. (If you're talking about applications that have special hardware needs - e.g. machine tool controllers - you might have a point.)<br><br>I don't know what it means for an application to fail to \"run at their full at their full potential\" means, and I wonder whether Scoble does either; If he means speed, he should write \"speed.\" Two 2.6GHz processors may not be standard hardware now, but it will be in a year or so.<br><br>Virtualization works today, and it works well. There's no reason why MS couldn't use it successfully on a future, non-Windows OS.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-08-18_02:05:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "af1e4db0c26037283c9e98c43803b9d6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708311": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "It seems to me that we are indeed discounting the future here. .Net or not, when running on 16GB 16 CPU computer of not so distant future, who would care?<br><br>I think standartization of hardware needs to happen, and the sooner the better. Then you wouldn't need 300 different drivers for every little device. Anyone remembers how cumbersome it was to connect anything to computer, before USB?<br><br>This trend should continue into CPU, Audio, motherboards and other things. So that you could reasonably make everything work together without \"translating\" every little command to work differntly, depending on which brand of Audio card you have in there.<br><br>I believe Microsoft is seeing that also, hence the recent \"we will talk to hardware guys\" hint.<br><br>However, I am not so sure they see the computing model transformation happening 5 years or so down the road, when your mobile phone/device will become the only computing gadget you ever need. Capable of everything and anything your old clunky desktop could do. That is the solid rewrite opportunity, and if they don't start now (or last year), they will definitely miss yet another computing transformation.<br><br>Sadly, though Apple has the technological edge here, I am not the one to agree with their \"user is stupid\" philosophy. Yes, many are, but some aren't. And the ratio between \"clueless\" PC users to \"power\" users will keep shifting at an ever accelerating pace, as the new generation grows up, just like my 4 year old, with wireless Internet-connected laptop on his plastic table from \"Little Tikes\".", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-08-02_16:57:44", "killed": false, "user_key": "adir1", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708312": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "i'd really like you to do more of these blog posts. you know, one that doesnt contain the word friendfeed or twitter that often, and that focuses on heavy prediction concerning something i bit bigger than a sub 500.000 user site :) (i don't want you to become cringley, though..) :D", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-08-03_05:25:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "f3b41bc009a402017febfab746770bc5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708313": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Microsoft might be writing a new OS, but most likely for Internet based applications. So instead of you installing every single app (Outlook, Excel, Word, Access, etc) you'll be accessing it via a web browser, and most likely it'll be ran from a set top box in your house in front of your TV, so while you are watching your fav show or something, you can pull up the web browser, and it can look up related topics to what you are watching, or something to that effect, basically merging your computer, tv, and life all into one. Not to mention pulling your tv signals onto your phone over a broadband connection.<br><br>I doubt MS will rewrite an entire OS just to move ahead in the game or to start a new path in technology. Most likely they'll write this new OS just for developers, basically open source. But who knows, this is Microsoft, they were the ones to pioneer a standardized driver system (DirectX) and also forge ahead in new technologies and force everyone to move with them (Windows 2000, XP) So we'll have to wait and see.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-08-06_15:13:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "9263fa05d6e939cd1b9b5f0b3899f69d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708314": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<blockquote>You are an idiot if you believe &lt;strike&gt;Microsoft&lt;/strike&gt; <strong>anyone</strong> is actually going to have a completely rewritten <strong>general purpose</strong> Operating System &lt;strike&gt;before Bill Gates dies&lt;/strike&gt; <strong>ever</strong>.</blockquote><br><br>Fixed that for you.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-09-12_11:54:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "d10ca8d11301c2f4993ac2279ce4b930", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708246": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "New Os Smew OS<br><br>Working with engineers, managing IT projects / programs, servicing business needs I can tell you that what matters to the boots on the ground is reliability, security, ease of technological configuration / resiliency / adaptability.<br><br>No one talks about killer apps from anyone anymore, not MS, not Apple, nada.<br><br>In marketplace terms, what happened is that Microsoft dominated the corporate desktop, successfully killing off companies like Borland and Lotus. No one will finance the execution of new concepts if there is even the whiff that MS will, sooner or later, engage that niche as an internal product.<br><br>So, we have stagnation due to an absence of competition.<br><br>The smartest thing Microsoft could do, and I have said this for years, is to dismember itself - return to the small team / dedicated lab structures and funding that were its path to success back in the DOS and Windows 95 days.<br><br>As for writing network drivers in .NET, how does one secure that implementation? Seriously. Massive security holes exist in all .NET deployments. Built-in lock-down features such as automated and fully self contained component (.DLL, .exe, .com, registry and memory) CRC checking to make hacking and splicing vastly more difficult have been around for more than two decades, yet, still, .NET has not integrated these techniques nor does this product have any plans to do so as far as I can tell.  Nor does VISTA.<br><br>I wont even get started on aspects other than Security.<br><br>What is Microsoft doing, you ask? Waiting to react to some external competitor that no longer exists and is highly unlikely to pop up, is my answer. Meanwhile, just tooling along and marking time, as directed.<br><br>Harsh, you say?  Harsh is me saying that the worlds #1 OS, seven years after 9/11/2001, is still the #1 Security Threat to the US Government, due to its extremely poor internal security.<br><br>Harsh is me saying that I single-handedly wrote apps more than ten years ago that did internal CRC checking on themselves, and that were thus vastly more secure, ten years ago, than any commercially available product shipped by Microsoft today.<br><br>So, hey, lets not get harsh.<br><br>:)<br><br>Larry", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-08-12_10:10:24", "killed": false, "user_key": "20a761fc4cc06f0e4aca349608e8b787", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708247": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Didn't Bill just turn over the reigns of the company to Ballmer, and some guy named Ray Ozzie as the Chief Technology something or other?,  In which case, why are we laying this at Gates' feet?  Sure I'm guessing he will still be somewhat involved in things, but if he is going to continue to set strategy for the company after semi-officially leaving, then there will be too much infighting and continued loyalty to Bill if he even hints at doing something else, that MS will never get anything done from now on.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_12:01:07", "killed": false, "user_key": "766a1b37b1d9a2b0362fe91b5835d273", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708248": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "&gt;the programmers at Microsoft tell me that managed code is a TON easier &gt;to write. Mostly cause you don\u2019t have to do so much worrying about &gt;memory and all that.<br><br>Robert, this is true, but you are drawing the wrong conclusions. Managed code is great for _applications_, because you aren't interested in memory management. However, we you are writing a production OS (not an experimental one like Singularity) you want full control of the memory, not extra layers. When you are writing a driver you want direct access to your own hardware, not to go through somebody else's run-time environment.<br><br>There's a time and a place for managed code. The internals of the kernel is not one of them.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_15:21:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "5564560cc3a3ecff02e6e0e935c440c3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708249": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "What makes managed code interesting for OSes is that you can use properties of managed code to make provably true assertions about the state of the system.<br><br>For example, in managed code you can't manipulate pointers, so you can have all your processes and the kernel sharing the same address space, running in kernel mode, without worrying that one of the programs is going to behave badly and corrupt memory belonging to the kernel.<br><br>This reduces the cost of calls into the kernel and inter-process communication down to pretty much zero, because you don't have to do a hardware context switch. You get a performance GAIN out of having your OS in managed code.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_15:09:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "aiusepsi", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708250": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Really off Robert. Calling somebody an idiot is just bad form. I didn't really see any kind of solid explanation why David is wrong. And if you really believe Bill Gates would hold onto this codebase for 20+ years, I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.<br><br>That kind of assumption is almost idiotic in itself!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_11:06:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3fae6987702d8d79d8609b011e09a637", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708251": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hi, Robert:<br><br>What SD Times' story (and my previous coverage on Midori -- <a href=\"http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1466\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1466</a>) both noted is that the origins of Midori is Singularity, Microsoft's managed code OS which is not Windows-based. Singularity was written from scratch and didn't use Windows as the core.<br><br>Microsoft is looking ahead -- as it should be -- to what comes after Windows as it exists today. Near term, Windows 7, Windows 8. Longer term, it's Midori (unless the project never makes it out of incubation). Windows is big and bloated; starting over with something new is needed. And virtualization will allow MS to carry the user base with them... Mary Jo", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_10:50:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "c49c61b8f7bfd99128578472b31e43a3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708252": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Sounds like a research project that is well worth undertaking right now. I'd summarize my take on it as this (imagine Microsoft speaking): \"If we could start over from scratch today, taking advantage of everything we've learned and everything we know about the state of computing and networking today and our current concept of the future, what would it look like?\"<br><br>Why SHOULDN'T Microsoft be doing this? They would be doing themselves a disservice if they weren't asking these questions and trying to find the answers. How this work gets productized is a completely different question. I doubt this initiative will result in a new OS release as we typically define them. This sounds more like Microsoft's \"Cairo\" project, the definition of which shifted over time but which ended up providing a baseline of ideas and technologies, many of which were added to Windows and Windows products over time.<br><br>Also, while I think Microsoft will remain focused on profound levels of backward compatibility in its OS products for the foreseeable future, I think people underestimate the ability of virtualization to provide that compatibility. An OS no longer needs to be compatible at its core to run older software- it just needs to be able to virtualize a system that can handle it, and as virtualization technologies continue to get better and better, I think it becomes feasible to think that MS could eventually replace Windows with something different that still maintains high levels of compatibility.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_11:11:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "34ab45eb58f37b4d328ae44266ec022d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708253": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "i guess only solution is to kill bill then ;)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_01:31:41", "killed": false, "user_key": "d76f53e4acf764b7a9c77cfb58493f00", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708254": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://www.techlusive.com/2008/07/24/why-should-you-choose-techlusive-for-your-tech-news/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.techlusive.com/2008/07/24/why-should...</a><br><br>I know what every web tools IDE company is up to. I use all their software daily.<br><br>\"Anyway, what do you think Microsoft is up to?\"<br><br>Microsoft is cooling off of the OS business and focusing on Web services, b2b advertising and search. Singularity may become the future platform but by that time Linux and OSX will have eaten Microsoft's lunch.<br><br>.NET and the JVM will be replaced by the new latest and greatest VM and language tech by the time they can effectively be used on that level. They'll get to the 10th iteration of the runtime, it'll seem old and outdated to everybody and they'll be on to the next thing in CS. Period.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_02:03:01", "killed": false, "user_key": "19697bb67f170dde4646e387311f0576", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708255": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Lets face it , the desktop war is over and Microsoft won that one. The success was a hollow victory though. Since within moments of them feeling the power of being on every desktop in business was neutered by the arrival of the internet.<br><br>The net has arrived on everydesktop, device and mobile product it can reach to. It achieved this with far less effort after it outpaced compuserver and AOL.<br><br>A realisation that a virtual , cloud based , world is more dominant in a mobile internet connected world makes the need for a desktop culture irrelevant.<br><br>you dont need active directory services when your running software as a service.<br><br>your not focusing on scalability when your using the inrternet as your server room .<br><br>So internally, quietly and without much insistence I can see microsoft have changed their policy from a Computer running windows on every desktop to a Microsoft experience in every connection.<br><br>just my two pence and great to see you Scobling again Robert.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_02:15:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "5fd7293a14c69afee362e74fb24a3d84", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708256": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I don't think the traditional OS is in their plans for the future, instead I see them jumping into the whole SAAS / Grid Computing wagon.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-08-03_23:12:22", "killed": false, "user_key": "1cfb852dd3705ff310e6f3f34423a71c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708257": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Well, if it's impossible to predict technology then why call folks with less popular opinions idiots? The folks who make safe guesses are wrong just as often.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_14:31:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "d9c09d22f158da47098cad76abfaf5de", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708258": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "What is so special about managed code that makes writing an OS in it interesting or difficult?  (I've written managed code and I know something about lisp machines and the xerox D-machines.)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_14:39:14", "killed": false, "user_key": "23743b93ffddd1558bbddc96a461444d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708259": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Andy: the programmers at Microsoft tell me that managed code is a TON easier to write. Mostly cause you don't have to do so much worrying about memory and all that. At least that's what they tell me. The downside? Performance, memory usage, and also engineering tools to help figure out where bugs are and all that.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_14:45:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708260": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"Mary Jo Foley: I interviewed the Singularity team back when they started. They are NOT trying to replace Windows. They are trying to do operating system research. While not built on top of Windows Singularity IS built on top of .NET\u2019s compilers and runtimes. \"<br><br>Wow!  Just, wow!<br><br>Scoble, you need to stop trying to talk like you have a clue about what you're discussing when it comes to software development.  You're just making a fool of yourself.  You're assertion that Midori couldn't possibly replace Windows in the short term is obvious.  Assuming this has anything to do with .NET not being capable, or then confusing an OS with a compiler and a runtime (do you know what that means?), is just sheer idiocy.  You're talking like you have insider information and technical understanding, when I highly doubt you have the former and it's obvious you don't have the latter.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_14:29:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "945693af19a797221e6b7fd418feb9ff", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708261": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "joecab: an emulator would break thousands of apps and cause many others to run really crappy. I've run Windows on VMWare and Parallels. I hated it. Even though it ran it was slow and buggy on both and tons of apps wouldn't run at their full potential. Even Vista needs better video capabilities, for instance.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_13:12:26", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708262": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Microsoft will not do a complete rewrite in the next 30-40 years, and you are an idiot if you think otherwise! Actually, make that 10 years.<br><br>What are you trying to SAY?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_13:39:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "d9c09d22f158da47098cad76abfaf5de", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708263": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Anything longer than 3 years out is impossible to predict, is what I'm trying to say. :-)<br><br>But, I know the kernel team is working on Windows 8.0 already and it's not a rewrite, so that takes us at least into 2013.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_14:01:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708264": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Microsoft's direction will be dependent on the evolution of the PC.<br><br>Imagine the technology 10 years from now? How about 40 years from now?<br><br>Imagine mobile technology advancing so as to cut in half the usage of the PC - like cell phones and VOIP have affected landlines.<br><br>In terms of the LOTUS analogy about breaking old apps - perhaps a powerful Virtual ware or middle ware will be added on the OS - that will act as a client SOA to allow anyone to access and integrate with those old apps.<br><br>Also, Microsoft will have to invest in the SAAS trend that can only get bigger.<br>They will probably focus on integrating the concept in their software so everything is accessible and editable at all times - then synched.<br><br>40 years from now - their may be a new language to replace .NET.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_09:59:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "284ef8707741488c899af19d7a2ddd60", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708265": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I've said in other forums that I don't think there will be another successful new-from-scratch, general purpose OS from anyone. Ever. The last one was Windows NT. Completely -- or even mostly -- replicating the functionality of Windows or OSX (which was pretty much a tweaked BSD Unix + a new GUI + a Mac OS 9 compatibility layer) or Linux (which was a Unix workalike) is just too much work. Only Microsoft could afford to do it, and they have a major financial interest in not doing it. And Linux and the BSDs are sucking up all the oxygen for open source projects.<br><br>Besides, if you really want a new, custom OS for some reason, it's too much easier to just start from a base of Linux or BSD Unix,  which is already there and free to use.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_09:31:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "b970d3cc70a24b49c7cae4468cd843da", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708266": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Isn't the legacy-app \"problem\" something that's going to be handled by virtualisation? Once we have a swanky new not-Windows we'll just run the old stuff in Windows under the supervision of a hypervisor.<br><br>Seems pretty simple to me (hah!)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_09:21:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "909f4f38408c2ede011db46852121db6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708267": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Yeah, it is ridiculous how easily people think things like operating systems, apps or even websites on the other end of the spectrum can be done...from scratch!<br><br>And even if MS was able to rewrite their OS from the ground-up, the press would be complaining for years that it's buggy because it takes years for the majority of bugs and stuff in OSs to be found and ironed out. It's a no-win situation, so MS is choosing the path of simply supporting legacy apps and code...can't blame 'em.<br><br>The mainstream media is just dumb when it comes to technology.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_08:55:20", "killed": false, "user_key": "2e6373ccc91119ca8ca61ea3dedcf689", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708268": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Would you use an OS completely written in Java?<br><br>There you have your answer to how stupid you have to be...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_08:56:20", "killed": false, "user_key": "fc00e1c50a1ee7894c27e7d7658e4870", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708269": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The reason why Microsoft won't do that is simple: It's too risky. They have about 50 million lines of code in Vista. You'll break a lot of stuff if you're completely rewriting it, no matter how hard you try to be compatible with old stuff.<br>Apple could do that because not a lot of people used it back then and the Apple brand is strong enough so that they don't need to care about their customers THAT much. If Microsoft would break only half the applications that Apple breaks with every new release, people would go crazy.<br><br>What Microsoft should do is to split their operating system up in separate components, a bit like Linux. That's a hell of a lot of work, but it would likely make the debugging and building process easier, which would make the development itself easier and probably less error-prone. Also, they could replace problematic components more easily.<br>The code of Microsoft is a mess - they have to clean it up. That would make solving many of their problems much easier.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_09:00:34", "killed": false, "user_key": "Sebastian", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708270": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hello Robert. Did you not see where Worthington quoted a Microsoft executive saying that there was no development schedule? Did you even read the entire story, or are you just bloviating?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_09:18:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "262868df0e44c7410b5099d919991983", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708271": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "You only technically need to get 1 app to run on the new O/S to ensure full compatibility: Hyper-V. Ship Vista &amp; Windows Server for free with the new O/S and launch the Virtual Machine for older apps. Easier said... but has to be done.<br><br>This is the only way that the O/S division will be able to innovate ever again. The new Win7 processes makes it impossible for anybody on that team to work on anything new or revolutionary (not even if your team wants to target Win8 - long term investments are not allowed!). 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The next Windows release will be juiced with consumer goodness, and heavily marketed as \"new\" and \"innovative\".", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_07:02:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "472fadf2ffe3bfdbfbc613027cc8bee4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708273": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": ".NET just makes coding easier. It's not a fucking magic bullet that will make an OS perfect. Sheesh. You could code the same stuff in c, c++, python... it's just a matter of taste. Who cares what the next MS OS is written in? So long as it works.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_07:31:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "dc37fc66a7150187e8f7efcaaacf41cb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708274": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Microsoft breaks many old apps. A good example is the abandonment of old VB, and the incompatability of old VB with VB.NET.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_08:01:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "ae357570806a6b24745eef78acf74675", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708275": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I'd say they're working towards closer integration between .net/wcf/wpf and LiveMesh...<br><br>Wasn't there a memo from Steve Balmer recently about putting more distance between Microsoft and hadware ? Have a basic OS (Vista/XP/Linux/Mac) take care of the actual hardware machine and run the rest on a <a href=\"http://web/.net\" rel=\"nofollow\">web/.net</a> based system seperated from the physical machine....", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_04:07:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "ee453202770837b67157b5853956273e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708276": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "isn't so nice to joke with future death of people :(<br>I think scoble will be first than bill gates.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_05:19:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "d4ffd59510239e9b056989ab12ea7ec2", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708277": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Check out SharpOS and Singularity, this stuff is possible!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_05:38:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "c249270e6b954dc9df6e142b55394e55", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708278": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Here's a clue as to why totally scrapping Windows and starting again is a bad idea: What are the reasons people think Vista sucks?<br><br>Because apps broke, and the driver support sucked at launch.<br><br>Mostly, that's because Microsoft ripped out a few huge chunks of the system (graphics, audio and networking, for instance) and totally overhauled them, not to mention the huge changes around security.<br><br>If you tear up Windows, and start again, you lose all compatibility with everything. It's a terrible, terrible idea.<br><br>People are going to like Windows 7 just because it's going to be a lot like Vista. Much, much less stuff is going to be broken on Day One.<br><br>I wouldn't be surprised if they productised Singularity as Midori just because the approach the Singularity guys are taking is immensely valuable in some scenarios, mostly ones around reliability.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_03:40:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "aiusepsi", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708279": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hi,<br><br>Ian: Robert does say why they wont, it is on the last paragraph.<br><br>Personally, I quite like this post, it is a conversation starter.  The problem being it is only devs like me who care about it being written in .Net and the benefits it may or may not bring.<br><br>I have been of the opinion recently that retro fitting \"new ways\" of thinking into old tech maybe isn't the best place to spend your money and a ground up re-write may be better - or at least large sections, but then again this is on Enterprise Apps that I have worked on and not an OS.  Didn't Apple do this with OS X?<br><br>Paul.<br><br>Paul.<br><br>twit: @PaulKinlan", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_03:37:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "b590f0fb3aba34aee093cfa1406eac0b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708280": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "That's what he's talking about. Singularity project, now known as Midori. And I concur with his analysis.<br><br>PS as someone who doesn't use either twitter not flickr, I can still see value in the way new social connection models are changing user behavior. That may not be something to tell your grandsons, but it's something they may get to experience some day. Cheers!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_03:38:23", "killed": false, "user_key": "a7f729033a590ea47540470ece0d1a5a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708281": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "This Midori team needs a radical different approach, they SHOULD come up with something different after Vista. But than again, the future is for WWW so I'm migrating to Ubuntu today. It runs Firefox in a completely safe environment, what else do I need?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_03:25:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "b17bb6ae405d87ef28cabc2b7e70d5e5", "has_been_anonymized": true, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708282": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Idiocy or not, it be their only hope. Modular, independent parts, emulated layers, death of \"code and fix\".<br><br>As you can't have many more Vista's without serious trouble. Meanwhile, Vista Business licenses shipped XP, still counting as a Vista install. Might as well give up on Vista, and talk up Windows 7, counting on that as the Enterprise upgrade.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_03:13:22", "killed": false, "user_key": "7f6291e8344b594235e57b843fc05d9b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708283": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "It would be helpful if you explained *why* you think MS won't do a non-Windows OS, rather than just stating that it won't, claiming that everyone who believes otherwise is an idiot, and not giving us any actual reasons.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_03:04:44", "killed": false, "user_key": "000801987fb3dd4d9b92db484c455ba0", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708284": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hi. Actually reading your blogs now. Which is good. Was only scanning headlines before to figure out what to read in depth elsewhere. Anyways. Keep up the good work.<br><br>Oh, and : <a href=\"http://research.microsoft.com/os/Singularity/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://research.microsoft.com/os/Singularity/</a> ..is what you mean?<br><br>p.s. From my recent comment - people tend to be happy in relation to whether they're happy with what they're doing. And I can't understand why someone would<br>be happy telling their grandsons they aggregated twitter and flickr. But, I am often,<br>frequently and painfully wrong.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Einar", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_02:55:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "4a8b754d9a816bea0cc657effb605131", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708285": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hey Scobleizer,<br><br>After all, we have seen DOS, and Win 95.  From Win 95 to XP &amp; to Vista, it have been 7 years gap.<br><br>Is it possible for Caveman to become 21st Century Vista man?&gt;... I wouldn't think that one determines to do a work, no matter what, it will be done.  How many of that kind of things you achieved? that you thought you could not!..<br><br>My friend, sitting the guffing things like these are ever easier than before because of IE (by the way who created the IE? anyways!?)....<br><br>You could have been more realistic..... Never Underestimate one's ability!<br><br>So long Scobleizer...<br><br>from non-MS fan---but a realistic guy.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_02:20:34", "killed": false, "user_key": "ce025f11c78b4784ae13f356e599f724", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708286": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "If I remember correctly XP has 29 million lines of code. How do you rewrite all that? Sounds like it could take some time to start over. But I could be wrong.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_02:21:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "f398b6fa9aadec2d2cf9027b6bcb22cb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9708287": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Mary Jo Foley: I interviewed the Singularity team back when they started. They are NOT trying to replace Windows. They are trying to do operating system research. While not built on top of Windows Singularity IS built on top of .NET's compilers and runtimes.<br><br>Jim Louderback and others: I didn't say the author of the article is an idiot. My headline came mostly from seeing other people pick up what he wrote and take the headline on its face, that this is an effort to replace Windows with something new.<br><br>Even Windows still has pieces of DOS underneath. The idea that you could rewrite Windows and have any application and driver compatibility is just not realistic. I have both Parallels and VMWare running on my Mac and they both suck compared to a real Windows machine.<br><br>Microsoft is NOT Apple. Apple has, what, a handful of computers that they need to support? Microsoft has a whole industry of thousands of pieces of hardware that they must support.<br><br>Now, that's not saying that Midori and Singularity don't have a HUGE amount of value. They do: as research projects or as projects to build something completely new that are NOT Windows. Maybe a new cell phone OS? Maybe a new kind of server OS where app and driver compatibility won't matter.<br><br>But to even try to say with a straight face that such an effort will even attempt to replace Windows anytime in the forseeable future is just plain stretching it.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-07-30_12:49:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}}, "integration": {"receiver_url": "", "theme": 4, "reply_position": true, "disqus_logo": false}, "timer": {"timer_url": "http://localhost:8005", "thread_id": "18359320", "user_id": "anonymous", "forum_id": "125200", "hash": -1680507711239978168}, "thread": {"total_posts": 0, "paginate": false, "per_page": 0, "slug": "you_are_an_idiot_if8230", "num_pages": 1, "days_alive": 0, "realtime_paused": true, "id": 18359320, "num_posts": 68, "closed": true, "queued": false, "killed": false}, "reactions_limit": 10, "context": {"show_reply": false, "use_fb_connect": true, "forum_facebook_key": "faaf467d0f47abde553c3b8e0e1b3570", "use_yahoo": false, "subscribed": false, "use_twitter_signin": true, "use_openid": false, "realtime_speed": 5000}, "reactions_start": 0, "settings": {"debug": false, "disqus_url": "http://disqus.com", "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"}, "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"};
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// Dsq.FmtStrings





Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN = 'a2d140c59df8cd4ce27a20e0829cacd8';
Dsq.COMMENTS_RE = /(<li.*?id="?dsq-comment-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/li>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_RE = /(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-header-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/div>)\s*(<div.*?class="?dsq-comment-body"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_BODY_RE = /\s*(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-message-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
// HACK: Safari ends with "-->" while other browsers end with "--&gt;" as expected.
Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE = /&lt;!--\[(.*?)\]--(?:>|&gt;)/gim;



var FragmentPacket = function(reader, writer, writer_url, is_child, receiveCallback) {
	var that = this;
	this.reader = reader;
	this.writer = writer;
	this.writer_url = writer_url;

	this.is_child = is_child || false;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;

	this._lastHash = null;

	this._accumMsg = '';

	this._lastSeqno = 0;

	this.MAX_DATA_LEN	= 1024;

	this.WAIT_TIME		= 10;

	this.READY		= 0x1;
	this.WRITING	= 0x2;
	this.FIN		= 0x4;
	this.ACK		= 0x8;

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;
	var listener = function() {
		that.recv();
	};
	return window.setInterval(listener, 10);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.log = function(msg) {



};

FragmentPacket.prototype.recv = function() {
	var hash;
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {

		hash = this.reader.name;
	} else {

		var hashIndex = this.reader.location.href.indexOf('#');
		if (hashIndex == -1) {
			return;
		}
		hash = this.reader.location.href.substring(hashIndex+1);
	}
	var flags = parseInt(hash.substring(0, 4), 10);
	var seqno = parseInt(hash.substring(4, 24), 10);
	var data  = hash.substring(24);

	if (this._lastHash !== hash) {
		this._lastHash = hash;
		this.log('recv: ' + hash);

		this.log(' flags: ' + flags);
		this.log(' seqno: ' + seqno + ' len: ' + hash.substring(4, 24).length + ' (' + hash.substring(4, 24) + ')');
		this.log(' data: ' + data + ' len: ' + data.length);

		this._lastSeqno = seqno;

		if (flags & this.WRITING) {
			this._accumMsg += data;
			this.sendFlag(this.ACK, seqno);
			if (flags & this.FIN) {
				this.log('recv finished: ' + decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));
				this.receiveCallback(decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));

				this._accumMsg = '';

				this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
			}
		}
	}

	return {
		flags: flags,
		seqno: seqno,
		data: data
	};
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendRawPacket = function(packet) {
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {
		this.writer.name = packet;
	} else {

		this.writer.location.href = this.writer_url + '#' + packet;
	}

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendFlag = function(flag, seqno) {
	this.sendRawPacket(this._zerofill(flag, 4) + this._zerofill(seqno, 20));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {
	this._send(0, encodeURIComponent(msg));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._send = function(packetNum, msg) {
	var that = this;
	var recvBuf = this.recv();

	if (packetNum === 0) {

		if (!(recvBuf.flags & this.READY)) {
			this.log('client is not ready, waiting...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		}
	} else {

		if (!( (recvBuf.flags & this.ACK) && (recvBuf.seqno === this._lastSeqno) )) {
			this.log('waiting for ack from client...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		} else {
			this.log('received ack: ' + this._lastSeqno + ' ' + recvBuf.seqno);
		}
	}

	var flags = this.WRITING;
	var num_packets = Math.ceil(msg.length / this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	this.log('num_packets: ' + num_packets);

	if (num_packets === packetNum) {

		this.log('message successfully sent!');
		this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
		return true;
	}

	this._lastSeqno++;

	if (packetNum == num_packets-1) {
		flags |= this.FIN;
	}

	var data = msg.substring(packetNum * this.MAX_DATA_LEN, (packetNum+1) * this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	var packet = this._zerofill(flags, 4) + this._zerofill(this._lastSeqno, 20) + data;

	this.log('sending raw packet: ' + packet);
	this.sendRawPacket(packet);

	return this._send(packetNum + 1, msg);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._zerofill = function(num, width) {
	var retval = num.toString();
	var retval_len = retval.length;
	for (var i = 0; i < width - retval_len; i++) {
		retval = '0' + retval;
	}
	return retval;
};

var PostMessagePacket = function(receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId) {
	var that = this;
	this.receiver = receiver;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;
	this.id = id;


	this.receiverId = receiverId;
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;

	var listener = function(e) {

		if (!that.id) {
			that.id = e.data;
			return;
		}


		var id = e.data.split(';')[0];
		if (id !== that.id) {
			return;
		}
		var data = e.data.substring(e.data.indexOf(';') + 1);

		that.receiveCallback(data);
	};

	if (typeof window.attachEvent == 'function') {
		window.attachEvent('onmessage', listener);
	} else if (typeof window.addEventListener == 'function') {
		window.addEventListener('message', listener, false);
	} else {
		throw new Error('No method found to create event listener for PostMessagePacket.');
	}
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {



	var needs_reget = false;
	try {
		if (typeof this.receiver.id == 'undefined' || typeof this.receiver.postMessage == 'undefined') {
			needs_reget = true;
		}
	} catch(e) {


	}
	if (needs_reget && typeof this.receiverId != 'undefined') {
		this.receiver = document.getElementById(this.receiverId).contentWindow;
	}

	var packet;
	if (!msg) {

		packet = this.id;
	} else {
		packet = this.id + ';' + msg;
	}
	this.receiver.postMessage(packet, '*');
};

PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = null;
PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id = function() {
	var id = (new Date()).getTime();
	if (id == PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id) {
		id++;
	}
	PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = id;
	return id.toString();
};

var JsonRpc = function() {

	this.ids = {};

	this.objectToJSON = function(obj) {
		var json = '';
		var results = [];

		if (obj === undefined || obj === null) {
			return 'null';
		}

		switch (obj.constructor) {
			case Object:
				for (var property in obj) {
					if (obj.hasOwnProperty(property)) {
						results.push(this.objectToJSON(property) + ': ' + this.objectToJSON(obj[property]));
					}
				}
				json = '{' + results.join(', ') + '}';
				break;
			case Array:
				for (var i = 0; i < obj.length; i++) {
					results.push(this.objectToJSON(obj[i]));
				}
				json = '[' + results.join(', ') + ']';
				break;
			case Number:
			case Boolean:
				json = obj.toString();
				break;
			case String:

				var specialChars = {'\b': '\\b', '\t': '\\t', '\n': '\\n', '\f': '\\f', '\r': '\\r', '\\': '\\\\'};

				json = obj.replace(/[\x00-\x1f\\]/g, function(match) {
					var ch = specialChars[match];
					return ch ? ch : '\\u00' + match.charCodeAt().toPaddedString(2, 16);
				});

				json = '"' + json.replace(/"/g, '\\"') + '"';
				break;
			default:

				json = 'null';
				break;
		}

		return json;
	};

	this.createHandler = function(send_func, registered_funcs) {
		var that = this;
		var handler = function(message) {

			try {
				var rpc = eval('(' + message + ')');
			} catch(e) {
				alert('bad JSON: ' + message);
				return;
			}
			if (rpc.method) {

				if (!registered_funcs[rpc.method]) {
					return;
				}

				var retval = registered_funcs[rpc.method].apply(null, rpc.params);
				if (rpc.id) {
					var response = {
						result: retval,
						error: null,	// TODO
						id: rpc.id
					};
					send_func(that.objectToJSON(response));
				}
			} else if(rpc.result) {

				if (!that.ids[rpc.id]) {
					return;
				}

				that.ids[rpc.id](rpc.result);
				delete that.ids[rpc.id];
			}
		};
		return handler;
	};

	this.execute = function(send_func, method, params, response_callback) {
		response_callback = response_callback || null;
		var id = (response_callback) ? (new Date()).getTime() : null;

		var request = {
			method: method,
			params: params,
			id: id
		};

		send_func(this.objectToJSON(request));

		if (id) {
			this.ids[id] = response_callback;
		}
	};
};
JsonRpc = new JsonRpc();

var ParentMessenger = function(childUrl, receiverUrl, container, receiveCallback) {


	if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Safari') >= 0 && parseInt(navigator.userAgent.substring(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Version/') + 8), 10) == 3) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	} else if (window.opera) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}



	if (!receiverUrl &&
		navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Gecko') >= 0 &&
		parseFloat(navigator.userAgent.slice(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 3, navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 6)) < 1.9) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}


	if (/msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent)) {


		if (document.domain == window.location.hostname) {
			receiverUrl = '';
		}
	}

	var that = this;
	this.childUrl = childUrl;
	this.receiverUrl = receiverUrl;
	this.container = container || document.body;

	this.packetHandler = null;


	this._ready = false;
	this._error = false;


	var _createReceiverForFragmentPacket = function() {

		that.receiver = document.createElement('iframe');
		that.receiver.src = receiverUrl;
		that.receiver.id = 'receiver_' + (new Date()).getTime();
		that.receiver.name = that.receiver.id;

		that.receiver.frameBorder = '0';
		that.receiver.frameSpacing = '0';
		that.receiver.style.borderStyle = 'none';

		var receiver_onload = function() {
			var receiver = document.getElementById(that.receiver.id).contentWindow;

			try {
				receiver.document.body.innerHTML = '';
			} catch(e) {

				that._error = true;
			}
			receiver.document.body.style.padding = '0px';
			receiver.document.body.style.margin = '0px';

			var child = receiver.document.createElement('iframe');
			child.id = 'child';
			child.name = 'child';
			child.src = that.childUrl;

			child.frameBorder = '0';
			child.frameSpacing = '0';
			child.style.borderStyle = 'none';
			child.style.width = '100%';
			child.style.height = '100%';
			receiver.document.body.appendChild(child);

			that.child = receiver.document.getElementById('child').contentWindow;
			that.receiver = receiver;

			that.packetHandler = new FragmentPacket(that.receiver, that.child, that.childUrl, false, receiveCallback);

			that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();

			that.packetHandler.sendFlag(that.packetHandler.READY, 0);

			that._ready = true;
		};

		that.receiver.onreadystatechange = function() {
			if (this.readyState == 'complete') {
				receiver_onload();
			}
		};

		that.receiver.onload = receiver_onload;







		if (Dsq.Utils.ie) {
			if (that.container.clientWidth === 0) {

				var _waitForWidth = function() {
					if (that.container.clientWidth > 0) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					} else {
						window.setTimeout(_waitForWidth, 100);
					}
				};
				_waitForWidth();

				that._once = false;
				that.receiver.onresize = function() {
					if (!that._once) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					}
					that._once = true;
				};
			}
		}

		that.container.appendChild(that.receiver);
	};


	var _createReceiverForPostMessage = function() {

		var receiver_onload = function() {

			that.packetHandler.send();
			that._ready = true;
		};

		var id = PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id();
		var receiverId = 'child_' + id;


		ParentMessenger['_receiver_onload_' + receiverId] = receiver_onload;

		that.container.innerHTML += '<iframe ' +
			'src="' + childUrl + '" ' +
			'id="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'name="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'onload="ParentMessenger._receiver_onload_' + receiverId +'();" ' +
			'></iframe>';

		that.receiver = document.getElementById(receiverId).contentWindow;
		that.packetHandler = new PostMessagePacket(that.receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId);
		that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();
	};

	if (typeof window.postMessage == 'function') {
		_createReceiverForPostMessage();
	} else {
		_createReceiverForFragmentPacket();
	}

};

ParentMessenger.prototype.sendMessage = function(message) {
	var that = this;
	if (!this._ready) {

		window.setTimeout(function() { that.sendMessage(message); }, 10);
		return;
	}
	this.packetHandler.send(message);
	return true;
};

Dsq.NewFrames = function(url) {
	this.url = url;
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype.init = function(onFailure) {
	var that = this;

	try {
		this.messenger = new ParentMessenger(this.url, Dsq.jsonData.integration.receiver_url, this.container, this.receive_callback);
	} catch(e) {
		if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
			onFailure();
		}
	}

	if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
		var iId = window.setInterval(function() {
			if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				return;
			}
			if (that.messenger._ready) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
			} else if (that.messenger._error) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				onFailure();
			}
		}, 10);
	}
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype._execute = function(method, args, callback) {
	var that = this;
	if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
		return false;
	}
	JsonRpc.execute(
		function(msg) { that.messenger.sendMessage(msg); },
		method,
		args || [],
		callback);
	return true;
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame = function(container, parent_post_id) {
	var that = this;
	this.container = container;
	this.parent_post_id = parent_post_id;

	var sendFunc = function(msg) {

		Dsq.Debug.log('Dsq.ReplyFrame.sendFunc');
		that.messenger.sendMessage(msg);
	};


	var postComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		Dsq.jsonData.posts[response.message.id] = response.message.post_meta;
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key]) {
			Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key] = response.message.user_meta;
		}


		var reply_position = (typeof(disqus_insert_wrt_sort) == 'undefined' 
			? (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reply_position ? -1 : null) 
			: (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? null : -1));
		
		if (response.message.post_meta.approved) {
			Dsq.Post.insert(response.message.post_meta.parent_post_id || reply_position, response.message.id, response.message.post_meta.message);
		}

		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onSuccess(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var postComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(response.message, 'Error');
		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onFailure(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var editComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);
		
		message.innerHTML = response.message;
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
	
	var editComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('Sorry, there was an error editing this comment.', 'Edit Error');
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	var getUserByEmail_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var msg = response.message;
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(parent_post_id);

		if (msg.username) {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'login', {
				'username': msg.username,
				'display_name': msg.display_name,
				'avatar_url': msg.avatar_url,
				'verified': msg.verified,
				'email': fields.email.value
			});
		} else {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'register');
		}
	};

	var validateAuth_onSuccess = function(response, auth_choice) {
		Dsq.Templates.postComment(parent_post_id, null, true, auth_choice);
	};

	var validateAuth_onFailure = function(response, auth_choice) {
		var pid = parent_post_id ? '-' + parent_post_id : '';
		var msg = response.message;

		if (auth_choice == 'register') {
			var fields = ['email', 'username', 'password'];

			for (var i = 0; i < fields.length; i++) {
				var field = fields[i];
				var errorDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-' + field + '-errors' + pid);

				if (msg[field]) {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = msg[field];
				} else {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = '';
				}
			}
		} else if (auth_choice == 'login') {
			Dsq.$('dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid).innerHTML = '<p>We couldn\'t log you in. Please verify your login.</p>';
		}
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.receive_callback = JsonRpc.createHandler(sendFunc, {
		'postComment.onSuccess': postComment_onSuccess,
		'postComment.onFailure': postComment_onFailure,
		'editComment.onSuccess': editComment_onSuccess,
		'editComment.onFailure': editComment_onFailure,		
		'getUserByEmail.onSuccess': getUserByEmail_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onSuccess': validateAuth_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onFailure': validateAuth_onFailure,
		'reload': function() { window.location.reload(); }
	});

	this.url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY +
		'?' + (new Date()).getTime() +
		'&f=scobleizer' +
		'&t=you_are_an_idiot_if8230' +
		'&ff=' + Dsq.Thread.ff +
		'&default_text=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_default_text) +
		'&ifrs=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css);
	if (this.parent_post_id) {
		this.url += '&parent_post=' + this.parent_post_id;
	}
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype = new Dsq.NewFrames(Dsq.ReplyFrame.url);

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.post = function(author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe) {
	this._execute('postComment', [author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.edit = function(post_id, message) {
	this._execute('editComment', [post_id, message]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.setState = function(parent_post_id, depth) {
	this._execute('setState', [parent_post_id, depth]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.getUserByEmail = function(email) {
	this._execute('getUserByEmail', [email]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.validateAuth = function(auth_choice, email, username, password) {
	this._execute('validateAuth', [auth_choice, email, username, password]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.authenticateFacebook = function(session, forum_url) {
	this._execute('authenticateFacebook', [session, forum_url]);
};

	Dsq.Facebook = function() {
	var that = this;

	var handleSessionData = function(session) {

		var forum_url = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;




		if (typeof disqus_facebook_forum != 'undefined') {
			forum_url = disqus_facebook_forum;
		}
		Dsq.frames.reply_0.authenticateFacebook(session, forum_url);
	};

	var onLogin = function() {
		FB.Connect.getSignedPublicSessionData(handleSessionData);
	};

	this.login = function() {
		FB.Connect.requireSession(onLogin, true);
	};
};
Dsq.Facebook = new Dsq.Facebook();


	






Dsq.Themes = {};

Dsq.Themes.narcissus = new function() {
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-form-area';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-textarea-wrapper';



	
	this.header = function() {
		var comments_count, total_posts, num_posts;
		var html = '';
		var missing_perm_tmpl;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.missing_perm) {
			missing_perm_tmpl = Dsq.Templates.missingPermissions();
			if (missing_perm_tmpl) {
				html += '<div class="dsq-missing-permissions">' + missing_perm_tmpl + '</div>';
			}
		}

		total_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.total_posts;
		num_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_posts;

		if (total_posts) {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL(total_posts, num_posts);
		} else {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION(num_posts);
		}

		html += ' \
		<div id="dsq-comments-title"> \
			<h3>' + comments_count + '</h3> \
		</div> \
		';

		html += ' \
		<div class="dsq-options"> \
			<span class="dsq-item-sort">'
				+ Dsq.Strings.SORT_BY + ' \
				<select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);"> \
					<option value="hot" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 4 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.POPULAR_NOW + '</option> \
					<option value="best" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 3 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.BEST_RATING + '</option> \
					<option value="newest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.NEWEST_FIRST + '</option> \
					<option value="oldest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 1 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.OLDEST_FIRST + '</option> \
				</select> \
				&nbsp; \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<span id="dsq-subscribe">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.subscribed
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.UNSUBSCRIBE + '</a>'
						: '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL + '</a>')
				+ '</span> \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-rss" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png" alt="" /> \
				<a href="http://scobleizer.disqus.com/you_are_an_idiot_if8230/latest.rss">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS + '</a> \
			</span> \
		</div> \
		';

		
		

		return html;

	};
	
	this.footer = function() {
		var html = '';

		html += Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
		
			html += Dsq.Templates.realtime();
			html += Dsq.Templates.showThreadSettings();
			html += Dsq.Templates.postBox();

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		


		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) {
 			html += ' \
				<div class="dsq-global-moderator-extras">'
					+ '<strong>shortname:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url
					+ '<strong>thread id:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.id
					+ '<strong>thread slug:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.slug
				+ '</div> \
			';
		}

		return html;
	};
	
	this.realtime = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			html += '<div id="dsq-realtime-options" class="dsq-options">'
					 + Dsq.Strings.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS + ' <strong id="dsq-realtime-status" style="text-transform: lowercase">' + Dsq.Strings.ENABLED + '</strong>. \
					 <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-toggle" style="text-transform: capitalize"></a> \
					</div>';
		}

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
			html += ' \
				<div style="display: none" id="dsq-realtime-alert" class="dsq-realtime-alert"><span id="dsq-realtime-queued"></span> <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-show"></a></div> \
			';
		}
		
		return html;
	};

	this.showThreadSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '<div id="dsq-thread-settings" class="dsq-thread-settings">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATOR_OPTIONS;
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showSettings(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.SETTINGS + '</a>';
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showModeratorActions(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>';
		if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled && Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.reportMissingReactions(); return false;">'
						+ Dsq.Strings.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS
						+ '</a>';
		}
		html +='</div>';

		return html;
	};

	this.postBox = function(post_id, use_fallback_iframe) {


		var html;
		var display_sharing_options = Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated;

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post) {
			return '';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.hasOwnProperty(Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain)) {
				display_sharing_options = false;
			}
		}
		
		if (post_id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];				
		}
		
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		var _requestUserInfo = function() {
			var html;



			var user_has_email = false;

			html = '<div class="dsq-request-user-info"> <!-- // If authenticated --> \
				<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT + '?ctkn=' + Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN + '" class="dsq-request-user-logout">' + Dsq.Strings.LOGOUT + '</a> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td rowspan="2">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '')
								+ '<img src="' + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR + '" width="48" height="48" class="dsq-request-user-avatar">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-name">'
								+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
									 ? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '">' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '</span>'
									 : (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_verified
											? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span>'
											: '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span>'))
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '') 
								+ Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username 
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
							+  (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && user_has_email ? ' <small>(<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.remoteAccountSettings(); return false;">change settings</a>)</small>' : '')
							+  (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <small>(<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/info/" target="_blank">change name</a> or <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/avatar/" target="_blank">picture</a>)</small>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-stats"> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count == 1 ? 'comment' : 'comments') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count == 1 ? 'like' : 'likes') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.points + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.points == 1 ? 'point' : 'points') + '</span> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		var _loginOptions = function() {
			var html;
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-authenticate"> \
				<p class="dsq-autheneticate-copy">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
					? Dsq.Strings.YOU_ARE_COMMENTING_AS_A + ' <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. ' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.LOGIN_BELOW + '.'
					: Dsq.Strings.REQUIRED + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.PLEASE_LOGIN_BELOW_TO_COMMENT + '.')
				+ '</p> \
				<ul class="dsq-login-buttons">'
					+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-disqus.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Facebook.login(); return false;"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-facebook.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-twitter.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL(); return false" ><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-openid.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_yahoo ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Yahoo.startYahooConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-yahoo.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
				+ '</ul> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {



				return '<div id="dsq-form-area" style="display:none"><div id="dsq-textarea-wrapper"></div></div>' + _loginOptions();
			} else {
				return '';
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<div id="' + (post_id 
			? 'dsq-reply-post-' + post_id
			: 'dsq-new-post')
		 	+ '" class="dsq-post-area"> \
			<div class="dsq-dc-logo"> \
				<a href="http://disqus.com/comments" target="_blank"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/disqus-logo.png"></a> \
			</div>'
			+ (post_id 
				? '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.REPLYING_TO + ' ' + userData.display_name + '</h3>'
				: '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT + '</h3>')
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated 
				? _requestUserInfo()
				: _loginOptions() )
			+ '<div id="dsq-form-area' + pid + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-textarea"> \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper" id="dsq-textarea-wrapper' + pid + '"></div> \
			</div>'
			+ (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated
			? ' \
			<div class="dsq-post-fields"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-name' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_name ? disqus_def_name : (Dsq.jsonData.session.name ? Dsq.jsonData.session.name : Dsq.Strings.NAME + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-website' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (Dsq.jsonData.session.url ? Dsq.jsonData.session.url : Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')" class="dsq-placeholder') + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" /></div></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-email' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_email ? disqus_def_email : (Dsq.jsonData.session.email ? Dsq.jsonData.session.email : Dsq.Strings.EMAIL + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"> \
							<div class="dsq-subscribe"> \
								<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.chooseSubscribe(' + post_id + '); return false" class="dsq-subscribe-menu"><span id="dsq-subscribe-select' + pid + '">' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post ? Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL : Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS) + '</span> <small>&#9660;</small></a> \
								<ul class="dsq-panel" id="dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid + '"> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(2, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL + '</a></li> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(0, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS + '</a></li> \
								</ul> \
								<input id="dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid + '" type="hidden" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post + '" /> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div>'
			: '')
			+ '<div class="dsq-post-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-sharing-options" ' + (!display_sharing_options ? 'style="display:none;"' : '') + '> \
					<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onfocus="document.getElementById(\'dsq-post-button' + pid + '\').focus();"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.SHARING_OPTIONS + ' <small>&#9660;</small></span></button> \
					<div class="dsq-panel"> '
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '"'
								  + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Twitter</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook
								&& (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.enabled === true ||
										(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'facebook'))
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Facebook</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Yahoo!</label> \
								</div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Tumblr</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Wordpress</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Movable Type</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
								  <label for="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' TypePad</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ '<div><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections/" target="_blank" class="dsq-configure-options">' + Dsq.Strings.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS + '</a></div>'
					+ '</div> \
				</div>'
				+ '<button type="button" class="dsq-button" id="dsq-post-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, false)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.POST_AS + ' '
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					? Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					: Dsq.Strings.GUEST)
				+ '</span></button>'
				+ (post_id
					? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button" id="dsq-cancel-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.CANCEL + '</span></button>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
			+ '</div>' // end dsq-form-area
		+ '</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};




	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-append-post-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		html = ' \
		<table> \
			<tr> \
				<td id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-avatar" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
					<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
					? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
					: '')
				+ '</a> \
				</td> \
				<td class="dsq-comment-header-meta"> \
		';

		
		return html;
	};
	
	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var html;
		var parent_display_name = '';
		
		if(_meta.parent_post_id) {

			var _parent_meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[_meta.parent_post_id];

			if (_parent_meta) {
				var parentUserData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_parent_meta.user_key];
				parent_display_name = parentUserData.display_name;
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png" class="dsq-moderator-star" title="Moderator" /> \
		<span class="dsq-comment-header-time"><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')" title="Permalink">' + (_meta.is_realtime ? Dsq.Strings.JUST_NOW : _meta.date) + '</a></span> '
		+ (_meta.parent_post_id && parent_display_name
			? '<a href="#comment-' + _meta.parent_post_id + '" title="Jump to comment">in reply to ' + parent_display_name + '</a>'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		<td id="dsq-like-pts-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-comment-header-likes">'
		+ (_meta.points
			? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		</tr> \
		</table> \
		';
		return html;
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		var html = '';
		return html;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed || !_meta.approved) { return ''; }
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
					? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.moderateOptions(' + post_id+ '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>'
					: '')
				+ '<a href="#" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG + '</a> \
			</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right">'
				+ (_meta.votable 
					? '<span id="dsq-like-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-like">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1)" >Like</button>'
						: 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;')
					+ '</span>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-post-edit" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + ')" >' + Dsq.Strings.EDIT + '</button>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<span class="dsq-comment-footer-reply" id="dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-comment-footer-reply-tab">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button><span></span> \
					</span>'
					: '')
			+ '</div> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};



	
	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		var item = '<li class="dsq-comment dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-header"> \
			<table> \
			<tr> \
			<td class="dsq-header-avatar"> \
			';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'" class="dsq-avatar">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {

			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar92.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== ''
				? '</a>'
				: '')
			+ '</td>'
			+ '<td><cite class="dsq-comment-cite">' + reaction.author_name + '</cite> <span class="dsq-comment-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</span></td>'
			+ '<td class="dsq-comment-header-likes"></td>'
			+ '</tr></table></div>' // end dsq-comment-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header" \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-reaction-header-left">'
							+ '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png" />'
							+ ' From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
							+ 'via <a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? 'BackType' : 'UberVU') + '</a>'
						+ '</td>'
						+ '<td class="dsq-reaction-header-right">';

			if(reaction.retweets) {
				var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
				if (num_retweets > 0) {
					if (num_retweets == 1) {
						item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
					} else {
						item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');
						item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
						var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 3) ? 3 : num_retweets;
						item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);
						if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
							item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
								+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
						}
					}
				}
			}	
			item += '</td></tr> \
			</table> \
			</div>' // end dsq-reaction-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-body"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left"> \
				</div>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator 
					? ' \
					<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right"> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-hide-reaction" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + ')">Hide</button> \
					</div>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 id="dsq-reactions-title" class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-container"> \
			<table> \
				<tbody> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-tl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-tr"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-body"> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
								<div class="dsq-popup-title"> \
									<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" style="float:right" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)">Close</button>'
									+ content['header'] 
								+ '</div>'
								+ content['body']
							+ '</div> \
							<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
						</td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-bl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-br"></td> \
					</tr> \
				</tbody> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
	};



	
	this.chooseSubscribe = function(post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		menu.style.display = menu.style.display == 'block' ? 'none' : 'block';
		
	};
	
	this.setSubscribe = function(value, el, post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var input = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid);
		var select = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-select' + pid);
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		select.innerHTML = el.innerHTML;
		input.value = value;
		this.chooseSubscribe(post_id);
	};
	
	this.getFormFields = function(post_id) {

		var fields = {};
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var name = Dsq.$('dsq-field-name' + pid);
		var email = Dsq.$('dsq-field-email' + pid);
		var website = Dsq.$('dsq-field-website' + pid);
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid);
		var password = Dsq.$('dsq-field-password' + pid);

		fields = {
			'name': name,
			'email': email,
			'website': website,
			'username': username,
			'password': password
		}
		
		return fields;
	}
	
	this.validateFields = function(post_id) {
		
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) { return true; }
		
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		
		var nameField = fields.name;
		var websiteField = fields.website;
		var emailField = fields.email;
		
		websiteField.value = (websiteField.value == Dsq.Templates.placeholder['website']) ? '' : websiteField.value;
		
		var v = [{

			validator: Dsq.Validators.name,
			value: nameField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.email,
			value: emailField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.url,
			value: websiteField.value
		}];
		
		return Dsq.Validators.validate(v, function(e) { Dsq.Popup.popModal(e, 'Oops...') } );
	};
	
	this.checkExistingUser = function(post_id) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);		
		Dsq.Popup.loading(post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		}
	};

	this.validateAuth = function(el_clicked, post_id, auth_choice) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		var email = fields.email ? fields.email.value : '';
		var username = fields.username ? fields.username.value : '';
		var password = fields.password ? fields.password.value : '';
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		}
	};

	this.lightboxUpdateEmail = function(post_id, new_email) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		fields.email.value = new_email;
	};

	this.lightboxAuthenticate = function(post_id, auth_choice, auth_data) {
		var title, body;
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		if(typeof(auth_data) == 'undefined') {
			var auth_data = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		}

		d = auth_data;

		switch(auth_choice) {
			case 'register':
				var suggestedUsername = d.name.value.replace(/[^a-zA-Z0-9-]/g,'').toLowerCase();
			
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Register a <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';

				body = ' \
				<ul class="dsq-lightbox-register-reasons"> \
				<li>Verify your comments</li> \
				<li>Edit and delete comments</li> \
				<li>Manage comments and replies</li> \
				</ul> \
				';

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Email</td> \
							<td><input type="text" value="' + d.email.value + '" onchange="Dsq.Templates.lightboxUpdateEmail(' + post_id + ', this.value)" /><div id="dsq-email-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + suggestedUsername + '"/><div id="dsq-username-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /><div id="dsq-password-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'login\'); return false">Login instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button type="button" class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Register and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			case 'login':
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Login to your <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';
				body = '';
				
				if(d.avatar_url) {
					body += '<div class="dsq-lightbox-recognized"><table><tr>';
					body += '<td><img src="' + d.avatar_url + '" alt="" /></td>';
					body += '<td><span class="dsq-badge ' + (d.verified ? 'dsq-badge-verified' : 'dsq-badge-registered') + '">' + (d.verified ? 'Verified' : 'Registered') + '</span></td>';
					body += '<td>Hey <strong>' + d.display_name + '</strong>, is that you? Login below to claim this comment.';
					body += '</tr></table></div>';
				}

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username or Email</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (d.avatar_url ? d.username : '') + '" /></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password <a href="http://disqus.com/forgot" target="_blank">(cannot log in?)</a></td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'register\'); return false">Register instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button type="button" class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Login and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
		Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid).focus();
	};
	
	this.buttonsToRestore = [];
	this.setLoadingButton = function(btn, post_id) {
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		if (btn) {

			var loadingBtn = document.createElement('button');
			loadingBtn.id = btn.id + '-loading';
			loadingBtn.innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-lite.gif" alt="" /> ' + Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
			loadingBtn.className = btn.className + ' dsq-post-loading';
			btn.parentNode.appendChild(loadingBtn);
			btn.style.display = 'none';
			var cancelBtn = Dsq.$('dsq-cancel-button' + pid);
			if(cancelBtn) { cancelBtn.style.display = 'none'; this.buttonsToRestore.push(cancelBtn); }
			this.buttonsToRestore.push(btn);
		} else {

			var buttons = this.buttonsToRestore;
			for(var i = 0; i < buttons.length; i++) {
				buttons[i].style.display = 'inline';
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$(buttons[i].id + '-loading'));
			}
		}
		
	};

	this.postComment = function(post_id, el_clicked, force, auth_choice) {
		var append_id = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);

		if (Dsq.Templates.validateFields(post_id)) {

			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && !force &&
				((!Dsq.Utils.readCookie('skipped_auth') && !disqus_skip_auth && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled) || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post)) {
				Dsq.Templates.checkExistingUser(post_id);
				return false;
			}
			var params = [];
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
				params.push(fields.name.value,
					fields.email.value,
					fields.website.value);

				if (auth_choice == 'login' || auth_choice == 'register') {
					params.push({
						auth_choice: auth_choice,
						username: fields.username.value,
						password: fields.password.value,
						email: fields.email.value
					});
				} else {
					params.push(null);
				}

				params.push(null /* sharing options */, Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + append_id).value);
			} else {
				var service_checked = function(name) {
					var el = Dsq.$('dsq-sharing-' + name + append_id);
					return (el !== null && el.checked === true) ? '1' : '0';
				};
				params.push(null, null, null, null, {
					tw: service_checked('twitter'),
					fb: service_checked('facebook'),
					tr: service_checked('tumblr'),
					wp: service_checked('wordpress'),
					mt: service_checked('movabletype'),
					tp: service_checked('typepad'),
					yh: service_checked('yahoo')
				});
			}

			var frame = Dsq.frames['reply_' + (post_id ? post_id : 0)];
			frame.post.apply(frame, params);

			if (el_clicked) {
				Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
			}
			
			if (force) {
				Dsq.Utils.createCookie('skipped_auth', true);	
			}
			
		} else {
			return false;
		}
	};

	this.editComment = function(el_clicked, post_id) {
		var edited_message = Dsq.$('dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id).value;

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].edit(post_id, edited_message);
	};

	this.toggleEdit = function(post_id) {
		var body = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-body-' + post_id);
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);

		if (!Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id]) {


			message.style.display = 'none';
			if (Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {

				var edit_area = document.createElement('div');
				edit_area.id = 'dsq-edit-' + post_id;
				edit_area.className = 'dsq-edit dsq-textarea';
				edit_area.innerHTML = ' \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper"> \
					<textarea class="dsq-edit-textarea" id="dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id + '">' + message.innerHTML + '</textarea> \
				</div> \
				<div class="dsq-save-edit"> \
					<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.editComment(this, ' + post_id + ')" class="dsq-button-small">Save Edit</button> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id + '" style="display: none"></div> \
				';

				body.appendChild(edit_area);

				if (!Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id), post_id);
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].init();
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
		} else {

			message.style.display = 'block';
			Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id] = !Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id];
	};
	
	this.edit = function(el, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(post_id, button) {
		
		if(!this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

			if (Dsq.$('dsq-reply-post-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id);
				var container = Dsq.$('dsq-textarea-wrapper-' + post_id);
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] && container) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(container, post_id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].init(function() {

						Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id, true);
						Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id).innerHTML = '';

						var theme = (typeof disqus_frame_theme == 'undefined') ? 'default' : disqus_frame_theme;
						Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id), post_id, {theme: theme});

					});
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-append-post';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply-active';
			
		} else {

			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = '';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply';
		}
		
		this.stateReplyToggled[post_id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[post_id];

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie && this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

		}

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: post_id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]
		});
	};
	
	this.moderateOptions = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		if(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) { return false; }

		var html;
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-moderate-options"> \
		<table>'
		+ (_meta.email ? '<tr><td>Email</td><td>' + _meta.email + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ (_meta.ip ? '<tr><td>IP address</td><td>' + _meta.ip + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ '<tr> \
			<td>Actions</td> \
			<td><ul>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
				? '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
				: '')
			+ '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Delete Comment</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li> \
			</ul></td> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		html += '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
		
		return Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Moderate Options', post_id);
	};
	
	this.placeholder = {
		'class': 'dsq-placeholder',
		'name': Dsq.Strings.NAME,
		'email': Dsq.Strings.EMAIL,
		'website': Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')'
	};
	
	this.handlePlaceholder = function(evt, el, key) {
		var placeholder = Dsq.Templates.placeholder[key];
		var className = Dsq.Templates.placeholder['class'];
		
		switch(evt.type) {
			case 'focus':
				if(el.value == placeholder) {
					el.value = '';
					el.className = '';
				}
				break;

			case 'blur':
				if(el.value == '') {
					el.value = placeholder;
					el.className = className;
				}
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
	};
	
	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked) {

		var extra_params = '';

		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked);
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'you_are_an_idiot_if8230'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};
	
	
	this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {


		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
			}
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/vote.js'
				+ '?post_id='    + id
				+ '&vote='        + vote);
		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login('To rate, please log in');
		}
	};

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {

		Dsq.$('dsq-like-pts-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.';

		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;';
		}
	};




	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {
		var approved = response.message.post_meta.approved;

		if (parent_post_id) {
			Dsq.Post.toggleReply(parent_post_id);
		}

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
		
		if (approved) {
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		} else {			
			var unapproved_msg = 'Thanks for posting!\
	 Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.\
			';
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(unapproved_msg, 'Comment awaiting approval', post_id);
		}

		var sharing_results = response.message.sharing_results;
		var sharing_errors = '';
		for (var service in sharing_results) {
			if (sharing_results.hasOwnProperty(service) === true) {
				if (sharing_results[service].error === true) {
					sharing_errors += service + ', ';
				}
			}
		}

		if (sharing_results.facebook && sharing_results.facebook.callback) {
			FB.ensureInit(function() {
				FB.Connect.streamPublish('', sharing_results.facebook.attachment);
			});
		}

		if (sharing_errors !== '') {
			var message = 'Your comment was posted, but there were errors sharing with the following connections: ';
			message += sharing_errors.replace(/,\s$/, '');
			message += '<p><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections" target="_blank">Configure your connections here</a></p>'
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sharing options');
		}

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.postComment_onFailure = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
};




// TODO: It might be faster to use string methods to find all <li (...) </li> blocks and pass to Dsq.PostHandler manually.
Dsq.CommentsHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_post = Dsq.Templates.prependPost(post_id);
	var append_post = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(post_id);

	content = content.replace(Dsq.POST_RE, Dsq.PostHandler);
	Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter++;
	head = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContainer(post_id, head);
	return prepend_post + head + content + tail + append_post;
};

Dsq.PostHandler = function(str, h_head, post_id, h_content, h_tail, b_head, b_content, b_tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_header = Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader(post_id);
	var append_header = Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader(post_id);
	var prepend_body = Dsq.Templates.preBody(post_id);
	var append_body = Dsq.Templates.postBody(post_id);
	var append_footer = Dsq.Templates.postFooter(post_id);

	b_content = b_content.replace(Dsq.POST_BODY_RE, Dsq.PostBodyHandler);
	return h_head + prepend_header + h_content + append_header + h_tail + b_head + prepend_body + b_content + append_body + b_tail + append_footer;
};

Dsq.PostBodyHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	content = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContent(post_id, content);
	return head + content + tail;
};

Dsq.MediaPostHandler = function(str, args, offset, s) {
	args = args.split(' ');
	if(args[0] == 'seesmic') {
		return '<br />' + Dsq.Templates.mediaSeesmic(args[1], args[2]);
	}
	return '';
};


/**
 * Shorcuts
 */
Dsq.$ = function(element) { return document.getElementById(element); };
Dsq.$b = document.body || document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0];


/**
 * Dsq.Debug: Logging functions.
 */

Dsq.Debug = new function() {this.log=function(s){};this.profile=function(f){if(typeof f == 'function')return f();else return eval(f);};};


/**
 * Dsq.Urls: URL paths
 */
Dsq.Urls = new function() {
	this.LOGIN = '/profile/login/';
	this.LOGOUT = '/logout/';
	this.REPLY = 'http://scobleizer.disqus.com/you_are_an_idiot_if8230/reply.html';
	this.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE = '/AnonymousUser/';
	this.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR = 'http://media.disqus.com/images/noavatar92.png';
};
// Dsq.Urls

/**
 * Dsq.Validators: Validation for form fields
 */
Dsq.Validators = new function() {
	this.VALID_EMAIL_RE = /^[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*\@(([a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*)+\.[a-z]{2,}|([0-9]+\.){3}[0-9]+)$/i;
	this.name = function(name) {
		var error = false;

		if(typeof Dsq.Templates.placeholder !== 'undefined' &&
		   name == Dsq.Templates.placeholder.name) {
			error = true;
		}
		if(name.length <= 1) {
			error = true;
		}

		if(error) {
			return "Please enter a name to comment.";
		} else {
			return true;
		}
	};
	this.email = function(addr) {
		if(Dsq.Validators.VALID_EMAIL_RE.test(addr)) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please enter a valid email to comment.";
		}
	};
	this.url = function(addr) {
		if(!addr || addr.indexOf('.') != -1) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please check your website URL (this field is optional).";
		}
	};

	this.validate = function(bulk_validation, failure_callback) {
		failure_callback = failure_callback || function(e){ alert(e); };

		for(var i = 0; i < bulk_validation.length; i++) {
			v = bulk_validation[i];
			ret = v.validator(v.value);
			if(ret !== true) {
				failure_callback(ret);
				return false;
			}
		}
		return true;
	};
};

/**
 * Dsq.Utils: Generic utility functions.
 */
Dsq.Utils = new function() {
	this.ie = /msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent);
	this.ie7 = (document.all && !window.opera && window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true : false;
	this.ie6 = (!window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true: false;
	this.webkit = navigator.userAgent.indexOf('AppleWebKit/') >= 0;
	this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache = {};
	this._styleSheet = null;

	this.gebiFromElement = function(el, id, tag) {
		// This only method only helps IE.
		if(!this.ie) {
			return Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var cacheKey = el.id + '-' + tag;
			tag = tag || 'div';
			if(typeof this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] != 'undefined') {
				collection = this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey];
			} else {
				collection = el.getElementsByTagName(tag);
				this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] = collection;
			}

			for(var i = 0; i < collection.length; i++) {
				if(collection[i].id == id) {
					return collection[i];
				}
			}
			return null;
		}
	};

	this.execOnReady = function(func) {
		var node = document.createElement('document:ready');
		try {
			node.doScroll('left');
			func();
			node = null;
		} catch(err) {
			setTimeout(function() { Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(func); }, 10);
		}
	};


	// Courtesy of http://www.quirksmode.org/js/cookies.html
	this.createCookie = function(name,value,days) {
		if (days) {
			var date = new Date();
			date.setTime(date.getTime()+(days*24*60*60*1000));
			var expires = "; expires="+date.toGMTString();
		}
		else var expires = "";
		document.cookie = name+"="+value+expires+"; path=/";
	};

	this.readCookie = function(name) {
		var nameEQ = name + "=";
		var ca = document.cookie.split(';');
		for(var i=0;i < ca.length;i++) {
			var c = ca[i];
			while (c.charAt(0)==' ') c = c.substring(1,c.length);
			if (c.indexOf(nameEQ) == 0) return c.substring(nameEQ.length,c.length);
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.eraseCookie = function(name) {
		Dsq.Utils.createCookie(name,"",-1);
	};

	this.deleteNode = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			this.deleteChildren(node);
			if(typeof node.outerHTML != 'undefined') { node.outerHTML = ''; }
			else if(node.parentNode) { node.parentNode.removeChild(node); }
			delete node;
		}
	};

	this.deleteChildren = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			for(var x = node.childNodes.length-1; x >= 0; x--) {
				var childNode = node.childNodes[x];
				if(childNode.hasChildNodes()) { this.deleteChildren(childNode); }
				if(typeof childNode.outerHTML != 'undefined') { childNode.outerHTML = ''; }
				else node.removeChild(childNode);
				delete childNode;
			}
		}
	};

	this.findPos = function(obj) {
		var curleft = 0;
		var curtop = 0;
		if (obj.offsetParent) {
			do {
				curleft += obj.offsetLeft;
				curtop += obj.offsetTop;
			} while (obj = obj.offsetParent);
		}
		return [curleft,curtop];
	};

	this.getWindowSize = function() {
		var windowWidth = -1;
		var windowHeight = -1;

		if(typeof(window.innerWidth) == 'number') { //Non-IE
			windowWidth = window.innerWidth;
			windowHeight = window.innerHeight;
		} else if(document.documentElement) { // IE 6+ in 'standards compliant mode'
			windowWidth = document.documentElement.clientWidth || document.body.clientWidth;
			windowHeight = document.documentElement.clientHeight || document.body.clientHeight;
		}

		return [windowWidth, windowHeight];
	}

	this.getScrollPos = function() {
		var scrollWidth, scrollTop;

		if(document.documentElement && (document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.documentElement.scrollWidth)) {
			scrollWidth = document.documentElement.scrollWidth;
			// IE is weird here.  If no doctype is provided, document.body.scrollTop is 0,
			// otherwise document.documentElement.scrollTop is 0.
			scrollTop = document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.body.scrollTop;
		} else if(document.body.scrollTop && document.body.scrollWidth) {
			scrollWidth = document.body.scrollWidth;
			scrollTop = document.body.scrollTop;
		}

		return [scrollWidth, scrollTop];
	}

	this.addEventListener = function(instance, eventName, listener) {
		var listenerFn = listener;
		if (instance.addEventListener) {
			instance.addEventListener(eventName, listenerFn, false);
		} else if (instance.attachEvent) {
			listenerFn = function() {
				listener(window.event);
			};
			instance.attachEvent("on" + eventName, listenerFn);
		} else {
			throw new Error("Event registration not supported");
		}
		return {
			instance: instance,
			name: eventName,
			listener: listenerFn
		};
	};

	this.removeEventListener = function(event) {
		var instance = event.instance;
		if (instance.removeEventListener) {
			instance.removeEventListener(event.name, event.listener, false);
		} else if (instance.detachEvent) {
			instance.detachEvent("on" + event.name, event.listener);
		}
	};

	this.fixIframesIE = function(id) {
		var disqusThread = Dsq.$(disqus_container_id);
		var iframes = disqusThread.getElementsByTagName('iframe');

		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-content');
		}

		for(i = 0; i < iframes.length; i++) {
			if (container) {
				iframes[i].style.width = container.offsetWidth;
			}
		}
	};

	this.getElementsByClassName = function(oElm, strTagName, strClassName) {
	/* Credit: Jonathan Snook [http://www.snook.ca/jonathan], Robert Nyman [http://www.robertnyman.com] */
		var arrElements = (strTagName == "*" && oElm.all)? oElm.all : oElm.getElementsByTagName(strTagName);
		var arrReturnElements = new Array();
		strClassName = strClassName.replace(/\-/g, "\\-");
		var oRegExp = new RegExp("(^|\\s)" + strClassName + "(\\s|$)");
		var oElement;
		for(var i = 0; i < arrElements.length; i++) {
			oElement = arrElements[i];
			if(oRegExp.test(oElement.className)) {
				arrReturnElements.push(oElement);
			}
		}
		return (arrReturnElements);
	};

	this.postToUrl = function(url, post_data, opt_redirect) {
		var form = document.createElement('form');
		var iframe_container = document.createElement('div');
		var id = 'dsq-temp-iframe-' + (new Date()).getTime();

		form.method = 'POST';
		form.action = url;
		if (!opt_redirect) {
			form.target = id;
		}
		iframe_container.innerHTML = '<iframe style="display:none" name="' + id + '" id="' + id + '"></iframe>';

		for(var key in post_data) {
			if(post_data.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var input = document.createElement('input');
				input.name = key;
				input.type = 'hidden';
				input.value = post_data[key];

				form.appendChild(input);
			}
		}

		Dsq.$b.appendChild(iframe_container);
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(form);
		form.submit();
	};

	// Strips integer id from id of element in the form ('some-id-###')
	this.extractId = function(e) {
		var chunks = e.id.split('-');
		if(chunks.length <= 1) {
			return 0;
		} else {
			var retval = parseInt(chunks[chunks.length-1]);
			return !isNaN(retval) ? retval : null;
		}
	};

	this.getStyle = function(el, styleProp) {
		if(el.currentStyle) {
			var y = el.currentStyle[styleProp];
		} else if(window.getComputedStyle) {
			var y = document.defaultView.getComputedStyle(el, null).getPropertyValue(styleProp);
		}

		if(y == 'transparent' || y == '') {
			this.getStyle(el.parentNode, styleProp);
		} else {
			return y;
		}
	};

	this.execScript = function(url, append_qs, container) {
		var script = document.createElement('script');
		append_qs = typeof append_qs == 'undefined' ? true : append_qs;
		container = container || Dsq.container;

		if(append_qs) {
			var j = (url.indexOf('?') >= 0) ? '&' : '?';
			url += j + (new Date()).getTime();
		}
		script.type = 'text/javascript';
		script.charset = 'UTF-8';
		script.src = url;
		container.appendChild(script);
		return script;
	};

	this.pluralize = function(num, singular, plural) {
		return (num != 1) ? plural || 's' : singular || '';
	};

	this.getRequestParams = function(queryString /* optional */) {
		var pairs, tuple;
		var params = {};

		queryString = queryString || window.location.search.substring(1);
		pairs = queryString.split('&');

		for (var i = 0, pair; pair = pairs[i]; i++) {
			tuple = pair.split('=');
			params[tuple[0]] = (tuple[1] || true);
		}

		return params;
	};

	this.addCssRule = function(selector, styleText, index) {
		var stylesheet;
		index = index || 0;

		if(!this._styleSheet) {
			var styleEl = document.createElement('style');
			document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(styleEl);
			this._styleSheet = styleEl.sheet;
			if(!this._styleSheet) {
				// IE does not like our newly created stylesheet.
				this._styleSheet = document.styleSheets[document.styleSheets.length-1];
			}
		}
		stylesheet = this._styleSheet;

		if(stylesheet.insertRule) {
			var ruleText = selector + ' { ' + styleText + ' }';
			if(index == -1) {
				index = stylesheet.cssRules.length;
			}
			stylesheet.insertRule(ruleText, index);
		} else if(stylesheet.addRule) {
			stylesheet.addRule(selector, styleText, index);
		}
	};

	this.forEachIn = function(obj, callback) {
		for(var key in obj) {
			if(obj.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				callback(key, obj[key]);
			}
		}
	};

	this._interpolateGlobalContext = {
		// values that get used a lot and are global to the request
		'profile_url': Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE,

		'disqus_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url,
		'media_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url,
		'request_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.username,
		'request_display_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username,
		'forum_name': Dsq.jsonData.forum.name
	};

	this.renderFromContextStack = function(key, contexts) {
		// Returns the first instance of `key` in the array of objects `contexts` or else ''
		for (var i=0; i<contexts.length; i++) {
			if (contexts[i][key] !== undefined) {
				return String(contexts[i][key]);
			}
		}
		throw new Error('key ' + key + ' not found in context');
	};

	var that = this;
	this.interpolate = function(fmt, opt_localContext) {
		// Interpolate `fmt` named-format string with an assumed global context.
		// Based on `interpolate` in django.views.i18n
		var contextStack = [opt_localContext || {}, that._interpolateGlobalContext];
		return fmt.replace(/%\(\w+\)s/g, function(match){
			return that.renderFromContextStack(match.slice(2,-2), contextStack);
		});
	};

	this.stripTags = function(s) {
		// Removes HTML tags from `s`
		return s.replace(/(<([^>]+)>)/g,"");

	};

	this.assert = function(b) {
		if (!b) {
			throw new Error('Assertion error.');
		}
	};

};
// Dsq.Utils

/**
 * Dsq.Popup: Popup helper functions.
 */
Dsq.Popup = new function() {
	this.timeHide = new Array();
	this.timeShow = new Array();
	this.activePopup = {};
	this.profileCache = {};
	this.statusCache = {};

	this.showTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the hide timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeHide[post_id]);

		// start the timer
		if(!Dsq.Popup.profileIsOn && !Dsq.Thread.adminIsOn) {
			this.timeShow[post_id] = setTimeout("Dsq.Popup.popProfile(\"" + post_id + "\")", 400);
		}
	};

	this.hideTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the show timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeShow[post_id]);
	};

	this.updateProfile = function(username) {
		// Callback from /embed/profile.js
		if (this.statusCache[username]) {
			var statusEl = Dsq.$('dsq-profile-status-' + username);
			statusEl.innerHTML = this.statusCache[username];
			statusEl.style.display = 'block';
		}

		if (this.profileCache[username]) {
			var _cache = this.profileCache[username];

			var _genhtml = function(text) { return '<span><big>' + text + '</big></span>'; };
			var _no_comments = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS(_cache.comments_count));
			var _no_likes = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_LIKES(_cache.likes_count));
			var _no_points = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_POINTS(_cache.points));

			var statsEl = Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + username);
			statsEl.innerHTML = '';

			if (Dsq.jsonData.users[username].registered) {
				statsEl.innerHTML = _no_comments + _no_likes;
			}
			statsEl.innerHTML += _no_points;

			var activeSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.active_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.active_sites[i];
				activeSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (activeSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = activeSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = 'This site.';
			}

			var moderatedSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.moderated_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.moderated_sites[i];
				moderatedSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (moderatedSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + username).innerHTML = moderatedSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + username).innerHTML = '';
			}
		}

		// Reposition popup after full HTML is rendered
		if(Dsq.Popup.activePopup && Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el) {
			Dsq.Popup.initPopup(Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.type);
		}

	};

	this.showCookieMsgs = function() {
		var title = '';
		var message = '';
		var numAlerts = 0;

		Dsq.Utils.forEachIn(Dsq.jsonData.cookie_messages, function(k, v) {
			if (!v) return;

			switch(k) {
				// Cookie: Twitter
				case 'post_twitter':
					if (v === 'error') {
						title = 'Twitter Error!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-error">Oops, we couldn\'t tweet this comment. Please check your <a href="http://disqus.com/account/services">account settings</a>.</li>';
					} else {
						var _msg = v.split(':');
						title = 'Tweeted!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-success">Your comment was successfully tweeted. <a href="http://twitter.com/' + _msg[0] + '/status/' + _msg[1] + '">Click here to view the tweet</a>.</li>';
					}
					break;
				// Cookie: Unapproved Post
				case 'post_not_approved':
					title = 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-not-approved">Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.</li>';
					break;
				// Cookie: Profile Found
				case 'post_has_profile':
					title = 'Use your existing commenter profile';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-has-profile">You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a></li>';
					break;
				case 'user_created':
					var _data = v.split(':');
					title = 'Profile created!';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-user-created">You have just created a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, the best way to claim, manage, and track your comments all over the web. \
					<br /><br />A confirmation is being sent to <strong>' + _data[1] + '</strong>. Please check for this email in order to verify your profile. \
					<ul class="dsq-list-tick"> \
						<li>Your username is <strong>' + _data[0] +'</strong>. <a href="http://disqus.com/people/' + _data[0] + '/" target="_blank">Click here to view your public profile</a>.</li> \
						<li>Be sure to set your profile picture, as well as connect your <span class="dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> and <span class="dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> accounts. <a href="http://disqus.com/account/" target="_blank">Click here for account settings</a>.</li> \
					</ul> \
					</li>'
					break;
				default:
					break;
			}
			numAlerts++;
		});

		if(numAlerts > 1) {
			message = '<ul class="dsq-list-bluebullet">' + message;
			message += '</ul>';
			title = 'Thanks for posting!';
		}
		if(numAlerts > 0) {
			if(typeof(disqus_cookie_msgs) == 'function') {
				disqus_cookie_msgs(message, title);
			} else {
				Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
			}
		}
	};

	this.helpBadges = function(post_id) {
		var html = ' \
			<ul class="dsq-popup-help"> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile with a confirmed email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, but has not yet confirmed his or her email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span> is not logged in with any account and has not claimed his or her comments.</li> \
				<li class="dsq-help-otheraccts">Other accounts</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> is using his or her Facebook profile via Facebook Connect.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> is using his or her Twitter profile via Twitter Sign-in.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-openid">OpenID</span> is using his or her OpenID.</li> \
			</ul> \
		';

		this.popModal(html, 'Help: Types of Commenters', post_id);
		return;
	};

	this.permalink = function(post_id) {
		var header = 'Link to this comment';
		var body = '<strong>You are anchored to</strong>:<br />' + document.location.protocol + '//' + document.location.host + document.location.pathname + document.location.search + '#comment-' + post_id;

		this.popModal(body, header, post_id);
	};

	this.login = function(header, body) {
		var h = header || 'Login or Register';
		var b = body || '';
		b += Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: 'dsq-popup-login'});
		b += '</iframe>'; // HACK: Sometimes there is something funky with the IFRAME SRC that causes no end tag
		this.popModal(b, h, null, true, 'dsq-popup-login');
	};

	this.blacklist = function(id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		var title = 'Add to Blacklist';
		var message = ' \
		Adding this person to the blacklist will block him or her from commenting on this site. Check the following types that you would like to add to the blacklist:'
		+ (userData['registered'] ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-username" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-username"><strong>Username</strong>: ' + userData['username'] + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ (_meta.email ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-email" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-email"><strong>Email address</strong>: ' + _meta.email + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ '<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
			<input id="dsq-blacklist-ip" type="checkbox" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-blacklist-ip-warning\').style.display=\'block\'"> \
			<label for="dsq-blacklist-ip"><strong>IP address</strong>: ' + _meta.ip + '</label> \
		</div> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p id="dsq-blacklist-ip-warning" style="display:none">	\
				Note: Blocking this person\'s IP address may also unintentionally prevent others, who share his/her IP address, from commenting on this site. \
				This may include people who are sharing the same computer, living in the same house, or using the same Internet provider. Only block an IP address as a last resort. \
			</p> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p style="text-align:center"><button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Post.blockUser(' + id + '); this.disabled=true; this.innerHTML=\'Just one moment...\'">Add to Blacklist</button></p> \
		';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
	};

	this.remoteAccountSettings = function() {
		var body = '';
		// Set up IFrame.
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/_auth/embed/remote_settings/';
		var attributes = {id: 'dsq-popup-account-settings'};
		if (typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}

		body = Dsq.Templates._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
		this.popModal(body, 'Account Settings', null, true, 'dsq-popup-account-settings');
	};

	this.popModal = function(message, title, post_id, use_listener, extra_classes) {
		var container = document.createElement('div');
		var header, body;

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);

		if(typeof(title) == 'undefined') { title = ''; }
		if(typeof(use_listener) == 'undefined') { use_listener = true; }

		if(post_id) {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message-' + post_id;
		} else {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message';
		}

		header = title;
		body = message;

		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupModal(header, body);
		Dsq.Popup.initPopup(container, post_id, 'message', extra_classes);
		if(use_listener) {
			Dsq.Popup.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', Dsq.Popup._closePopup);
		}
	};

	this.popAlert = this.popModal;

	this.loading = function(post_id) {
		var title = Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
		var body = '<div style="text-align:center; padding: 5px 0 10px 0"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif" alt="" /></div>'
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
	};

	this.lightbox = function(message, title, post_id) {
		// Wraps Dsq.Popup.popModal

		var overlay = document.createElement('div');
		overlay.id = 'dsq-overlay';
		overlay.className = 'dsq-overlay';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(overlay);
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, post_id, false, 'dsq-lightbox');
	};

	this.popProfile = function(post_id, userKey) {
		var post = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id];
		if (post && post.has_been_anonymized) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('This message was anonymized by its previous owner.', 'Anonymized', post_id);
			return;
		}

		if(post_id) {
			userKey = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id].user_key;	
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][userKey];
		var elId = 'dsq-popup-profile-' + userKey;
		var container = document.createElement('div');

		if(this.activePopup.el) {
			this._closePopup(null, true);
			if(this.activePopup.linkClicked) {
				this.activePopup.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		container.id = elId;
		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupProfile(userKey);

		this.initPopup(container, post_id, 'profile');
		this.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._closePopup);

		if(!this.profileCache[userKey]) {
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/embed/profile.js'
				+ '?username=' + userKey
				+ '&anon=' + (userData['registered'] ? 0 : 1)
				+ '&f=' + Dsq.jsonData['request'].forum);
		} else {
			this.updateProfile(userKey);
		}
	};

	this._closePopup = function(e, force) {
		var activePopup = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el;
		var id = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id;
		var link = 'dsq-avatar-' + id; // HACK: Specific to profile toggle target

		// HACK: This event should be gone if there is no active popup.
		if(!activePopup) {
			return;
		}
		if(force || !Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, activePopup.id)) {
			// TODO: This is breaking iE?
			if(Dsq.Popup.popupListener) {
				Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Popup.popupListener);
			}
			
			// Kill overlay
			var overlay = Dsq.$('dsq-overlay');
			if(overlay) { Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(overlay); }
			
			try {
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(activePopup);
			} catch(e) {
				// HACK: IE6 throws an error when using deleteNode() with a node containing a <table> in the html.
				activePopup.parentNode.removeChild(activePopup);
			}
			Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {};
		}

		if(!force && Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Popup.activePopup.linkClicked = true;
		}

	};

	this.initPopup = function(popup, post_id, type, extra_classes) {
		popup.className = 'dsq-popup dsq-popup-' + type + ' ' + (extra_classes ? extra_classes : '');
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6 || Dsq.Utils.ie7) {
			// HACK: We can't modify the body before it's ready, so we need
			//       to use an IE-safe "DOMReady" workaround before loading
			//       our popup.
			Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(function() {Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup); });
		} else {
			Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup);
		}

		popup.style.display = 'block';

		var xPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[0] - popup.offsetWidth) / 2;
		var yPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[1] - popup.offsetHeight) / 2;

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
			yPos += Dsq.Utils.getScrollPos()[1];
		}

		popup.style.left = xPos + 'px';
		popup.style.top = yPos + 'px';

		Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {
			'el' : popup,
			'id' : post_id,
			'type': type,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};
	};

	this.isClicked = function(e, id) {
		var t = e.target || e.srcElement;
		while(t && t.parentNode) {
			if(t.id == id) {
				return true;
			}

			t = t.parentNode;
		}
		return false;
	};
};
// Dsq.Popup

/**
 * Dsq.Templates
 */
Dsq.Templates = new function() {
	/*
	 * Counter keeping track of the number of posts iterated over.
	 */
	this.postLoopCounter = 0;
	this.filters = {};
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-post-add';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-post-add';

	this.registerTemplate = function(name, func) {
		this['$$_' + name] = func;

		if(typeof DsqLocal.Filters != 'undefined'
		&& typeof DsqLocal.Filters[name] == 'function') {
			// Push filters to this.filters to unify code.
			this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
			this.filters[name].push(DsqLocal.Filters[name]);
		}

		this[name] = function() {
			var ret;

			if(typeof DsqLocal.Templates != 'undefined'
			&& typeof DsqLocal.Templates[name] == 'function') {
				ret = DsqLocal.Templates[name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(ret === undefined) {
				ret = this['$$_' + name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(this.filters[name]) {
				var args = [ret];

				args.push.apply(args, arguments);
				for(var i = 0; i < this.filters[name].length; i++) {
					ret = this.filters[name][i].apply(this, args);
				}
			}

			return ret;
		};
	};

	this.registerFilter = function(name, func) {
		this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
		this.filters[name].push(func);
	};

	/**
	 * Dsq.Templates.Filters
	 */
	this.Filters = new function() {
		this.commentContainer = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var classes = [];
			if(Dsq.jsonData.request.page > 1) {
				classes.push('dsq-append');
			}

			//
			// Extra classes used for custom themes
			//

			if(_meta.depth) {
				classes.push('dsq-comment-child', 'dsq-depth-' + _meta.depth, 'dsq-parent-is-' + _meta.parent_post_id);
			}


			//

			if(_meta.author_is_creator) {
				// TODO: We need to deprecate the "special" class since it is not properly prefixed.
				classes.push('special', 'dsq-special');
			}
			if(_meta.author_is_moderator) {
				classes.push('dsq-moderator');
			}
			classes.push(['dsq-odd', 'dsq-even'][Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter % 2]);

			s = s.substring(0, s.lastIndexOf('>'));
			return s + ' class="dsq-comment ' + classes.join(' ') + '" style="margin-left:' + _meta.depth*30 + 'px">';
		};

		this.commentContent = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			if (_meta.killed) {
				return '<em>Comment removed.</em>';
			} else if (!_meta.approved) {
				return '<em>This comment was flagged for review.</em>';
			}

			s = s.replace(Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE, Dsq.MediaPostHandler);
			return s;
		};
	};

	//
	// Thread
	//
	// TODO: These need to be stripped of all Django template tags.

	this.authPost = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			return '';
		}
		var result = [];
		result = result.concat([
				'<div id="dsq-auth"',
						Dsq.jsonData.integration.reply_position ? 'class="dsq-auth-bottom"' : '',
						'>',
					'<div class="dsq-by">',
						'<a href="http://disqus.com" target="_blank">',
							(Dsq.jsonData.integration.disqus_logo ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/by-disqus.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">') :
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/dsq-button-120x19.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">')
							),
						'</a>',
					'</div>',
					'<div class="dsq-auth-header">',
						'<h3 id="dsq-add-new-comment" class="dsq-h3-addcomment">',
								Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT,
						'</h3>',
						'<div id="dsq-login">',
						(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
								? '<p class="dsq-login-message" id="dsq-login-message">You are commenting as a <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. You may select one to log into:</p>'
								: '')
		]);
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			result = result.concat([
							Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
								'<a id="dsq-login-toggle" href="%(disqus_url)s%(login_url)s?next=article:%(thread_id)s" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsq-profile-btn.png" title="%(log_into)s" alt="%(log_into)s"/></a>',
								{login_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGIN, thread_id: Dsq.jsonData.thread.id, log_into: Dsq.Strings.LOG_INTO_DISQUS}
								),
							'&nbsp; ',
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ?
								'<div id="dsq-fbc-login" onlogin="DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin()" size="medium" background="light" length="short" style="display:inline; margin-right:7px"></div>' :
								''
							),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-twitter-login" class="dsq-twitter-login" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect();" style="display:inline; cursor: pointer"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/twitter-signin-short.png" style="margin-right:7px" /></div>', {}) : ''),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-openid-login" class="dsq-openid-login" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL();" style="display:inline; cursor:pointer;"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/openid-login-button.png"/></div>', {}
								) : '')
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
						'</div>', // dsq-login
					'</div>', // dsq-auth-header
					'<div id="dsq-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated" ',
						Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated ? 'style="display:block"' : '',
						'>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-pic">',
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">' +
																			'<img class="dsq-post-avatar" src="%(avatar_url)s" alt="" /></a>',
																			{avatar_url: Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR,
																			url: (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
																					 ? Dsq.jsonData.request.url
																					 : Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE) }),
						'</div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>', {url:Dsq.jsonData.request.url})
										  )
										: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(profile_url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>')
											)
									),
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">',
									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsqicon12.png" alt="%(logged_in_as)s"/>&nbsp',
											{logged_in_as: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username)})
										: ''),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="%(logout_from_disqus)s">',
											{logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN, logout_from_disqus: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('DISQUS')})
										: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'twitter')
												? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using Twitter (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
												 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
												: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'openid')
													 ? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using OpenID (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
													 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
													 : ''
													)
											)
									),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote ? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('<span class="logo-disqus">DISQUS</span>') : ''),
									'</a>',
								'</li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
		]);
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect) {
			result = result.concat([
					'<div id="dsq-fbc-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated">',
						'<div id="dsq-fbc-profilepic" class="dsq-authenticated-pic" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.ProfilePic" size="square" facebook-logo="true"></div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									'Logged in as <span id="dsq-fbc-name" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.Name" linked="true" useyou="false"></span>',
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">using Facebook Connect <a href="#" onclick="javascript:DisqusFbcParentController.logout();return false;">(Logout)</a></li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
				'</div>', // dsq-auth
				'<div id="dsq-toolbar-items">',
				'</div>'
		]);
		result = result.concat([
					//
					//
					//
				((!Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) ?
					// Needs to be translated:
					('<p id="dsq-no-anon-msg">Required: Please log into <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> ' +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? 'or connect with Facebook ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? 'or sign in with Twitter ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? 'or sign in using OpenID ' : '') +
					Dsq.Utils.interpolate('to comment on <strong>%(forum_name)s</strong>.</p>')) :
					''
				),
				'<div id="dsq-post-add"></div>',
				'<div style="margin:10px 0">',
				((Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media) ?
						'<a href="#" id="dsq-media-link" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, false, \'media\'); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.USE_MEDIA + ' <small>&#9660;</small></a>' :
						''),
				'</div>'
		]);
		return result.join('');
	};


	this.header = function() {

		var html = '\<h3 id="dsq-comments-count" class="dsq-h3-commentcount">\
	 <span id="dsq-num-posts">68</span> Comments\
	 &nbsp;\
	 <span class="dsq-item-feed">\
	 <a href="http://scobleizer.disqus.com/you_are_an_idiot_if8230/latest.rss"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png"></a>\
	 </span>\
	 </h3>\
	 <div id="dsq-options" style="margin:15px 0">\
	 <span class="dsq-item-sort">\
	 Sort by\
	 <select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);">\
	 <option value="hot" selected="selected">Popular now</option>\
	 <option value="best" >Best Rating</option>\
	 <option value="newest" >Newest first</option>\
	 <option value="oldest" >Oldest first</option>\
	 </select>\
	 &nbsp;\
	 </span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-cp"><a href="http://scobleizer.disqus.com/you_are_an_idiot_if8230/">Community Page</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-subscribe">\
	 <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle">\
	 <span id="dsq-subscribe">\
	 <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a>\
	 </span>\
	 </span>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-alerts">\
	 <p>Comments for this page are closed.</p>\
	 </div>\
		';

		

		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) { 
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-alert-message dsq-upgrade-message"> \
				<strong>Disqus upgrade available.</strong> Hi ' + Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username + ', this message is being displayed to you because you are a moderator of this site. <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-upgrade-message\').style.display=\'block\';this.style.display=\'none\';return false">Click here for details.</a> \
				<div style="display:none; margin-top:10px;" id="dsq-upgrade-message"> \
					A new theme is available with added features. <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/settings/' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url + '/?p=customize">To change your theme, click here</a> and choose the theme Narcissus. \
					If you do not upgrade, you are missing out on features such as: real-time commenting, new sign-in integrations, and an upgrade interface. \
					<strong>This message will automatically go away in one week.</strong> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			' + html; 
		}
		return html;
	};

	this.footer = function() {
		var html = Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.authPost();
		

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		

		return html;
	};

	this.pagination = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) { Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = ''; }
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.thread.paginate) { return ''; }

		//
		// TODO: num_paginator still uses the template tag for pagination, 
		// 		while append_paginator does it all in JavaScript.
		//		This should all be in JavaScript.
		//

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages > 1 && Dsq.jsonData.request.page < Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages) {
			html = ' \<a class="dsq-paginate-append-text" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this); return false">Show more comments...</a>\
	 <button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-paginate-append-button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this);">Load more comments</button>\
			';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = html;
			return '';
		} else {
			return '<div id="dsq-pagination" class="dsq-pagination">' + html + '</div>';
		}
	};

	this.trackbacks = function() {
		var html = '';

		if(typeof DsqLocal != 'undefined' && DsqLocal.trackback_url && DsqLocal.trackbacks) {
			var trackbacks = DsqLocal.trackbacks;
			var trackback_url = DsqLocal.trackback_url;
		} else {
			var trackbacks = [
			
			
			];
			var trackback_url = 'http://scobleizer.disqus.com/you_are_an_idiot_if8230/trackback/';
		}

		html += '<div class="dsq-item-trackback">Trackback URL&nbsp;&nbsp;<input class="dsq-trackback-url" onclick="this.select()" readonly="true" value="' + trackback_url + '"></div>';

		if(trackbacks.length) {
			html += '<ul id="dsq-references">'
			for(var i = 0; i < trackbacks.length; i++) {
				var trackback = trackbacks[i];
				html += '<li><cite><a href="' + trackback.author_url + '" rel="nofollow">' + trackback.author_name + '</a></cite> \
						<p class="dsq-meta">' + trackback.date + '</p> \
						<p class="dsq-content">' + trackback.excerpt + '</p></li>';
			}
			html += '</ul>';
			html = '<h3 class="dsq-h3-trackbacks">Trackbacks</h3>' + html;
		}

		return html;
	}

	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		/* Reaction HTML begins */
		var item = '<li class="dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-header-avatar">';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'">';
		} else {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="#" onclick="return false;">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {
			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar32.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png"/>'
			+ '</a></div>'
			+ '<cite><span>' + reaction.author_name + '</span></cite>'
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"><a class="dsq-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</a></span>'
			+ '</div><div class="dsq-reaction-body">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-footer">From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
			+ 'via <a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? 'BackType' : 'UberVU') + '</a>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator ? '&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;<a class="dsq-hide-reaction" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + '); return false;">Hide</a>' : '') + '</div></div>';

		if(reaction.retweets) {
			var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
			if (num_retweets > 0) {
				item += '<div class="dsq-reaction-retweets">';
				if (num_retweets == 1) {
					item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
				} else {
					item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');

					item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
					var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 15) ? 15 : num_retweets;
					item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);

					if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
						item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
							+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
					}
				}
				item += '</div>';
			}
		}

		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this.missingPermissions = function() {
		return '	<p>Comments for this page are closed.</p>\n';
	};

	//
	// Post
	//

	this.prependPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="comment-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-comment-reply-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-header-avatar" id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
				<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
				? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '</a>'
			+ '</div> \
		';
	};

	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];

		return ''
			+ (_meta.author_is_moderator
				? '<img class="dsq-mod-star" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/bullet-star.png" title="Moderator" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"> \
				<a id="dsq-time-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-time" href="#comment-' + post_id + '" title="Permalink">' + _meta.date + '</a> \
			</span>';
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		return '';
	}

	this.postBody = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Deprecate flagging conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		return ''
			+ (_meta.edited
				? '<p class="dsq-editedtxt">(Edited by a moderator)</p>'
				: '')
			;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Use media should be conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed) { return ''; }

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
				<div id="dsq-points-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-likedtxt">'
				+ (_meta.points
					? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.'
					: '')
				+ '</div>'
				+ '<ul class="dsq-comment-options dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.votable
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first dsq-rate" id="dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id + '">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Like</a>'
						: 'You liked this.') + '</li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-report' + (!_meta.votable ? ' dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '"><a href="#" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">Report</a></li> \
				</ul> \
				<ul class="dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first"><a href="#" id="dsq-reply-link-' + post_id +'" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(this, ' + post_id +'); return false;">Reply</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<li id="dsq-edit-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-edit-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="' + (!_meta.can_reply ? 'dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-more-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-more-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'more\'); return false">More <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media
					? '<li id="dsq-media-el-' + post_id +'" style="display:none"><a id="dsq-media-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'media\'); return false">Use Media <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '</ul>'
				+ '<div id="dsq-reply-bar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar" style="display:none"> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-items-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-items"> \
						</div> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-auth-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-auth"> \
							 \
								 \
								 	<a href="#" class="dsq-help dsq-reply-req-opt" title="You are commenting as a Guest. You may choose to log into an existing DISQUS Profile, your Facebook, Twitter or OpenID account to comment on Scobleizer" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Optional:</a> \
								 \
								<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/dsq-favicon-16x16.png" alt="" /> \
								<a id="dsq-reply-login-' + post_id + '" href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:18359320" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">Login</a> \
								 \
									&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img class="fb_login_image" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/images/fbconnect/login-buttons/connect_light_small_short.gif" alt="Facebook Connect"/> \
									<a href="#" onclick="FB.Connect.requireSession(DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin); return false;">Connect</a> \
								 \
								&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/twitter-signin-icon.png" alt="" /> \
									<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false">Sign-in</a> \
								 \
								 \
							 \
						</div> \
					</div> \
					<div id="dsq-reply-' + post_id + '"></div> \
			</div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Iframes
	//

	this._makeAttributes = function(attributes) {
		// Makes a tag attributes string out of an object.
		// Caller is responsible for making sure nothing needs to be escaped.
		var result = [];
		for (key in attributes) {
			result.push(' ' + key + '="' + attributes[key] + '"');
		}
		result = result.join('');
		return result;
	};

	this._frameGeneric = function(base_url, params, attributes) {
		if(typeof(disqus_callback_params) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_callback_params = '';
		}

		var default_params = {
			// TODO: These should be moved to Dsq.jsonData.
			'f'				: 'scobleizer',
			't'				: 'you_are_an_idiot_if8230',
			// Do we need encodeURIComponent here?
			'ifrs'			: encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css),
			'to_redirect'	: encodeURIComponent(window.location),
			'cbp'			: disqus_callback_params,
			'ff'			: Dsq.Thread.ff,
			'fc'			: Dsq.Thread.fc,
			'ac'			: Dsq.Thread.ac,
			'default_text'	: disqus_default_text
		};

		base_url += '?' + (new Date()).getTime();
		// Add params to default_params.
		if(params) {
			for(var key in params) {
				if(params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					default_params[key] = encodeURIComponent(params[key]);
				}
			}
		}
		// Build querystring.
		for(var key in default_params) {
			if(default_params[key] && default_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				base_url += '&' + key + '=' + default_params[key];
			}
		}

		return [
			'<iframe marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" hspace="0" vspace="0" frameborder="0"',
			(' allowtransparency="true" src="' + base_url + '"'),
			this._makeAttributes(attributes),
			'</iframe>'].join('');
	};

	this.frameLogin = function(opt_attributes) {
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/login.html';
		var attributes = opt_attributes || {};
		attributes['class'] = 'dsq-post-login';

		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameReply = function(post_id, extra_params, attributes) {
		// Returns the HTML for a reply iframe. Called by Dsq.Iframes.setReplyIframeToContainer
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY;
		var params = {
			'def_email'		: disqus_def_email,
			'def_name'		: disqus_def_name
		};
		if(extra_params) {
			for(var key in extra_params) {
				if(extra_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					params[key] = extra_params[key];
				}
			}
		}
		if(_meta) {
			params['parent_post'] = post_id;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			params['per_page'] = disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			attributes['class'] += '-authenticated';
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameEdit = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/edit.html';
		var params = {
			'p' : post_id
		};
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, {'class': 'dsq-post-edit', 'name': 'dsq-edit_' + post_id + '-frame'});
	};

	//
	// Menus
	//

	this.menuMore = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: "Remove post" button should hide menu.
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')">Link</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Profile</a></li>'
	+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
		? '	<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>' + (_meta.email ? '<li class="dsq-admin-email">' + _meta.email + '</li>' : '')
		+ '	<li class="dsq-admin-ip">' + _meta.ip + '</li> \
			<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>'
		+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
			? ' <li class="dsq-admin-edit"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
			: '')
		+ ' <li class="dsq-remove"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Remove Comment</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-report-spam"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-block-user"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li>'
		: '');
	};

	this.menuMedia = function(post_id) {
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(this, ' + post_id + ', \'seesmic\'); return false;">Record video</a></li> \
		';
	};

	this.dropProfile = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};


		var menu = '<li class="dsq-drop-showlnk"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Expand &#8663;</a></li>';
		var pointsMessage = '';
		if (userData['registered']) {
			pointsMessage = 'with ' + userData['points'] + ' points (more points are better).';
		}

		if (userData['is_remote']) {
			var domain = userData['remote_domain_name'];
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' is a ' + domain + ' user ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
			menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-' + domain.toLowerCase() + '">' + domain + '</span></li>';
		} else if (userData['registered']) {
			if (userData['verified']) {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a verified commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span></li>';
			} else {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a registered, but unverified, commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span></li>';
			}
		} else {
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has not claimed this commenter profile." onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()"><span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span></li>';
		}

		menu += _includeServices();
		return menu;
	};

	//
	// Popups
	//

	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-top"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-body" class="clearfix"> \
				<div class="dsq-popup-body-padding"> \
					<div class="dsq-popup-header"> \
						<a class="dsq-close-link" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/modal-close.png" alt="" /></a>'
						+ content['header']
					+ '</div>'
					+ content['body']
					+ '<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
				</div> <!-- padding --> \
			</div> <!-- body --> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-bottom"></div> \
		</div> \
		';
	};

	this.popupProfile = function(user_key) {
		var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(user_key, null);
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var html = '';
			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == 0
					? '<h4>Connections</h4><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li> \
					<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" title="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" /> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>'
				+ (i+1 == userServices.length ? '</ul>' : '');
			}
			return html;
		};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<table> \
				<tr> \
					<td> \
						<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><img class="dsq-popup-profile-avatar" src="' + userData['avatar'] + '" alt="" /></a> \
					</td> \
					<td> \
						<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user"> \
							<h3>' + userData['display_name'] + '</h3> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats" id="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + user_key + '">Loading...</div> \
						</div> \
					</td> \
				</tr> \
			</table> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-state"> \
				This is a&nbsp;<span class="'
					+ (userData['registered']
						? (userData['verified']
							? ' dsq-badge-verified'
							: (userData['is_remote']
								? ' dsq-badge-' + userData['remote_domain_name'].toLowerCase()
								: ' dsq-badge-registered')
							)
							: ' dsq-badge-guest') + '">'
			+ (userData['registered']
				? (userData['verified']
					? 'Verified'
					: (userData['is_remote']
						 ? userData['remote_domain_name']
						 : 'Registered')
					)
				: 'Guest')
			+ '</span>&nbsp;commenter profile.'
			+ '&nbsp;<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><strong>View more comments </strong></a>'
			+ (!userData['points']
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice">If this is you, <a href="http://disqus.com/profile" target="_blank">claim it now</a> to manage your comments.</p>'
				: '')
			+ ((userData['registered'] && !userData['verified'] && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username == userData['username'])) && !userData['is_remote'])
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice"><strong>Alert</strong>: You have not verified this account. <a href="http://disqus.com/verify">Verify it now.</a></p>'
				: '')
			+ '</div> \
			<div id="dsq-profile-status-' + user_key + '" class="dsq-popup-profile-status" style="display:none"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-snapshot"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td> \
							<div id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Most active sites</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
						<td>'
							+ _includeServices()
							+ '<div id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Moderator of</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupReblog = function() {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<cite><span>Reblog this comment</span></cite> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div id="dsq-reblog-form" class="dsq-reblog-form"> \
			</div> \
		';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupModal = function(title, message) {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<h3>' + title + '</h3> \
		';

		bodyHtml = message;

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.alertContent = function(name, post_id) {
		var alert = {
			'post_not_approved': {
				'title': 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator',
				'message': 'Thanks for posting. Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.'
			},
			'post_has_profile': {
				'title': 'Use your existing commenter profile',
				'message': 'You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> commenter profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a>'
			}
		};
		return alert[name] || false;
	};

	//
	// Actions
	//

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {
		// Update number of points
		Dsq.$('dsq-points-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.';

		// Update link text
		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.';
		}
	};

	this.subscribed = function(status) {
		var title, message;

		if(status) {
			title = 'Subscribed!';
			message = 'You have subscribed to this comment thread. New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox, where you may read and respond by email.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">Unsubscribe</a> \
			';
		} else {
			title = 'Unsubscribed';
			message = 'You have unsubscribed to this comment thread. New comments will no longer be sent to your email inbox.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a> \
			';
		}

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);

	};
	
	this.highlighted = function() {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('This comment has been highlighted.', 'Highlighted comment');
	};

	//
	// Media
	//

	this.mediaSeesmic = function(id, thumb) {
		return ' \
			<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_preview" class="dsq-seesmic-preview"><a href="http://www.seesmic.com/video/' + id + '" target="_blank" class="see_link">&nbsp;</a> \
				<div style="display:block;width:160px; height:120px; border:none; background-image:url(http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/' + thumb + ')"> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_hide" class="seePlayOverlay" style="display:none;"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',false)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/stopOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_show" class="seePlayOverlay"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',true)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/playOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; border:none; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			<div id="' + id + '_content" style="display:block; width:100%; padding-top:5px"></div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Callbacks
	//

	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(parent_post_id) {
		// Increment post count
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');
		
		if (num_posts) { 
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) { 
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
	};
};
// Dsq.Templates


/**
 * Dsq.Post
 */
Dsq.Post = new function() {
	this.openedMenu = {};
	this.menuEventListener = null;
	this.stateReplyToggled = {};
	this.stateEditToggled = {};
	this.stateRecordLink = {};

	/**
	 * Inserts a new post into the document.
	 *
	 * @param after_id {Number}	Insert a post before specified id.  If after_id
	 *							evaluates to false, then post in the front.  If
	 *							after_id is -1, post at the end.
	 */
	this.insert = function(after_id, id, message, author) {
		// Skeleton template from thread_posts.html.
		var skeleton = ' \
			<li id="dsq-comment-%(id)s"> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-header-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-header"> \
					<cite id="dsq-cite-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-cite"> \
						<a id="dsq-author-user-%(id)s" href="%(author_url)s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">%(author_name)s</a> \
					</cite> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-body-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-body"> \
					<div id="dsq-comment-message-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-message">%(message)s</div> \
				</div> \
			</li> \
		';
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var _user_meta = Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key];
		var markup = Dsq.Utils.interpolate(skeleton, {
			id: id,
			message: message,
			author_url: _user_meta.blog,
			author_name: _user_meta.display_name
		});
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		markup = markup.replace(Dsq.COMMENTS_RE, Dsq.CommentsHandler);
		div.innerHTML = markup;

		if (after_id === -1) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').appendChild(div);
		} else if (!after_id) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').insertBefore(div, Dsq.$('dsq-comments').firstChild);
		} else if (Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + after_id)) {
			// Get next node after "after_id", so we can insert before it.
			// If "after_id" is the last comment, the target node is the
			// last node.
			
			// var append_post_id = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(after_id).replace('<div id="','').replace('"></div>', '');
			var append_post_id = 'dsq-append-post-' + after_id;
			var node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			while (node = node.nextSibling) {
				if (!node || node.nodeType == 1) { // 1 == Node.ELEMENT_NODE
					break;
				}
			}
			if (!node) {
				node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			}
			node.parentNode.insertBefore(div, node);
		}
	};

	this.incrementPostCount = function() {
		
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');

		if (num_posts) {
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) {
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
	}
	
	this.outlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className += ' dsq-comment-outline';
		setTimeout("(function () { Dsq.Post.clearOutlineComment(" + post_id + ") })()", 3000);
	};
	
	this.clearOutlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className.replace('dsq-comment-outline', '');
	};

	this.showMenu = function(el, id, name) {
		var anchorPos = Dsq.Utils.findPos(el);
		var menu = document.createElement('ul');

		if(this.openedMenu) {
			if(this.openedMenu.linkClicked) {
				this.openedMenu.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		switch(name) {
			case 'more':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMore(id);
				break;
			case 'media':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMedia(id);
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}

		// Add menu to document body
		menu.id = 'dsq-menu-' + id;
		menu.className = 'dsq-menu';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(menu);

		// Position and show
		anchorPos[1] += 15;
		menu.style.left = anchorPos[0] + 'px';
		menu.style.top = anchorPos[1] + 'px';
		menu.style.display = 'block';

		// Set global reference
		this.openedMenu = {
			'el' : menu,
			'id' : id,
			'name' : name,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};

		// Set listener
		this.menuEventListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._hideMenu);
	};

	this._hideMenu = function(e) {
		var el = e.target || e.srcElement;
		var openedMenu = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el;
		var id = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.id;

		if(!id) {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link';
		} else {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link-' + id;
		}

		if(!openedMenu) {
			return;
		}

		if(!Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, openedMenu.id)) {
			openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Post.menuEventListener);
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(openedMenu);

		} else {
			// Hide the menu if a link was clicked inside the menu.  We can't
			// completely remove the menu until the onclick event on the link
			// fires, but the menuEventListener will prevent multiple menus
			// from polluting the DOM.
			if(el && typeof el.href != 'undefined') {
				openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el = null;
			}
		}

		if(Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Post.openedMenu.linkClicked = true;
		}
	};


	this.getUserServices = function(user_key, id) {
		if(!user_key && id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
			user_key = _meta.user_key;
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var userServices = [];

		// Keep a full list of supported services. This is the order they will display in the drop-profile.
		// Each service must have a corresponding case in _buildServiceUrl()
		var supportedServices = ['blog', 'twitter', 'facebook', 'tumblr'];

		function _buildServiceUrl(serviceName) {
			var data = userData[serviceName];
			var services = {
				blog:		function(d) { return d; },
				twitter:	function(d) { return d; },
				facebook:	function(d) { return d; },
				tumblr:		function(d) { return 'http://' + d + '.tumblr.com'; }
			};
			return services[serviceName](data);
		}

		for(var i = 0; i < supportedServices.length; i++) {
			if(userData[supportedServices[i]]) {
				var serviceUrl = _buildServiceUrl(supportedServices[i]);
				userServices.push({'name' : supportedServices[i], 'url' : serviceUrl});
			}
		}
		return userServices;
	}

	this.dropProfile = function(id) {
		var dp = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-profile-' + id);

		// IE6 needs JS to display/hide. All other browsers use CSS.
		if(dp) {
			if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) dp.style.display = (dp.style.display == 'inline') ? 'none' : 'inline';
			return false;
		} else {
			dp = document.createElement('ul');
		}

		dp.id = 'dsq-drop-profile-' + id;
		dp.className = 'dsq-drop-profile';

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) { dp.style.display = 'inline'; }

		var container = Dsq.$('dsq-header-avatar-' + id);
		dp.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.dropProfile(id);
		container.appendChild(dp);
	};

	this.dropProfileMore = function(el, id) {
		var hiddenItems = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-hidden-' + id);

		hiddenItems.style.display = 'inline';
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
	};

	this._updateReplyLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "reply / cancel" links based on state.
		var displayDict = {};

		if(id) {
			if(this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				el.innerHTML = 'Cancel';
				displayDict['media'] = 'inline';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'none';
			} else {
				el.innerHTML = 'Reply';
				displayDict['media'] = 'none';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'inline';
			}
		}

		for(var key in displayDict) {
			if(displayDict.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var	linkEl = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-el-' + id),
					spacer = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-spacer-' + id);

				if(linkEl) {
					linkEl.style.display = displayDict[key];
					if(spacer) spacer.style.display = displayDict[key];
				}
			}
		}
	};

	this._updateMediaLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "use media / cancel" links based on state.
		var appendId = (id) ? ('-' + id) : '';
		var link = Dsq.$('dsq-media-link' + appendId);

		if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			link.innerHTML = 'Cancel Media';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(link, id); return false; };
		} else {
			link.innerHTML = 'Use Media <small>&#9660;</small>';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.showMenu(link, id, 'media'); return false; };
		}
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(el, id) {
		// Create reply IFrame
		if (window.disqus_use_postmessage) {
			if (!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				// Create IFrame if it doesn't exist.
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-frame-' + id), id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].init();
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].setState(id, _meta.depth);
				}
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
			}
		} else {
			// DEPRECATED
			if(!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				// Reply toolbar
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id), id);
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Iframes.hideAllInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id));
				if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
					// HACK: Cancel media before canceling self.
					this.toggleMediaReply(Dsq.$('dsq-media-link-' + id), id);
				}
			}
		}

		this.stateReplyToggled[id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[id];
		this._updateReplyLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-reply-' + id); }

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[id]
		});
	};

	this.toggleMediaReply = function(el, id, xtype) {
		id = id || 0;
		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(!this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id, {xtype:xtype}, 'dsq-post-video');
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id);
		}
		this.stateRecordLink[id] = !this.stateRecordLink[id];
		this._updateMediaLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};

	this.edit = function(el, id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.frameEdit(id);
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-comment-message-' + id); }
	};

    this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
                Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
            }

            Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/vote.js'
                + '?post_id='    + id
                + '&vote='        + vote);

		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login(Dsq.Strings.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN);
		}
    };

	this.report = function(id, confirmed) {
		if(confirmed) {
			Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/you_are_an_idiot_if8230/post_report/', {'post_id': id});
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Thank you. This comment has been flagged for moderator attention.', 'Successfully flagged');
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$('dsq-post-report-' + id));
		} else {
			var title = Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT;
			var message = Dsq.Strings.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR + '? \
			<br /><br /> \
			<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.NO + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.NEVER_MIND + '</button>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + id + ', true);"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.YES + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT + '</button><br /><br />'
			+ Dsq.Strings.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION + '. \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, id);
		}
	};



	this.showAlert = function(id, msg) {
		var msgEl = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id);
		var alert = '<div class="dsq-comment-alert">' + msg + '</div>';

		msgEl.innerHTML = alert + msgEl.innerHTML;
	};

};
// Dsq.Post


/**
 * Dsq.Thread
 */
Dsq.Thread = new function() {
	this.fc = null;
	this.ff = null;
	this.ac = null;

	
	this.adminIsOn = false;

	
	
	

	this.hlComment = null;
	this.hlCommentClass = null;

	this.getNextComment = function(el) {
		var start_id = el.id;
		while(el = el.nextSibling) {
			if(el.id && el.id.indexOf('dsq-comment-') != -1 && el.id != start_id) {
				return el;
			}
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.getActiveCommentId = function() {
		if (document.URL.indexOf('#comment-') >= 0) {
			var anchor = document.URL.slice(document.URL.indexOf('#') + 1);
			return anchor.replace('comment-', '');
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.highlightAnchor = function() {
		var i = this.getActiveCommentId();
		if (i == null) return false;
		var id = 'dsq-comment-' + i;
		var hash = window.location.hash;

		// Toggle the hash incase the comment isn't available when the page loads
		// for WebKit-based browsers.
		if (Dsq.Utils.webkit) {
			window.location.hash = '';
			window.location.hash = hash;
		}

		this.hlComment = Dsq.$(id);
		// Adding this conditional guard pending #289
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlCommentClass = this.hlComment.className;
		this.hlComment.className += ' dsq-hl-anchor';

		setTimeout("Dsq.Thread.highlightClear()", 3000);
	};

	this.highlightClear = function() {
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlComment.className = this.hlCommentClass;
	};

	this.login = function(toggle) {
		// toggle id is #dsq-reply-login-[id]
		var postId;
		if(toggle.id.indexOf('dsq-reply-login') != -1) {
			postId = toggle.id.slice(16);
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + postId);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(toggle) {
			if(toggle.className == 'dsq-login-active') {
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(container, postId);
				toggle.className = '';
			} else {
				Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
				toggle.className = 'dsq-login-active';
			}
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
		}

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};


	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked, per_page) {
		// Use extra_params to pass any override parameters that we need to persist.
		var extra_params = '';

		// "Per page" can either be overriden by providing it as an argument
		// (per-call) or setting the disqus_per_page override variable (global).
		if(typeof per_page == 'undefined') {
			per_page = null;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined' && per_page === null) {
			per_page = disqus_per_page;
		}

		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}
		if(per_page !== null) {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + per_page;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			el_clicked.style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'you_are_an_idiot_if8230'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};

	this.sortBy = function(sort) {
		var disqus_script = document.createElement('script');
		var disqus_date = new Date();

		if (location.hash != '') {
			location.hash = '#disqus_thread';
		}

		if(typeof(disqus_url) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_url = disqus_href;
		}
		disqus_script.type = 'text/javascript';
		disqus_script.src = 'http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'you_are_an_idiot_if8230'
			+ '&sort='	+ sort
			+ '&title='
			+ '&'		+ disqus_date.getTime();

		Dsq.$('dsq-comments').innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif">';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(disqus_script);
	};

	this.subscribe = function(status, email) {
		// `status` is an int -- 1 to subscribe, 0 to unsubscribe
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || email) {
			// If authenticated user OR anonymous email provided

			if(email) {
				Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
			}

			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/subscribe.js'
				+'?status=' 	+ status
				+ '&slug='		+ 'you_are_an_idiot_if8230'
				+ '&email=' 	+ encodeURIComponent(email));

		} else if(!email) {
			// If anonymous user and no email has been provided yet, prompt for email

			var title = 'Subscribe to this comment thread';
			var message = ' \
				New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox! \
				<div class="dsq-subscribe-submit"> \
					<p><strong>Enter your email address below.</strong></p> \
					<input type="text" id="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
					<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1, Dsq.$(\'dsq-subscribe-email\').value)">Subscribe</button> \
				</div> \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
		}
	};

	this.showSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return;
		}

		/* The form has to be re-designed when more options will come out. */
		var html = 'Automatically close comments after <input size="3" id="dsq-thread-days-alive" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.days_alive + '" type="text" /> days. Existing comments will still be displayed.<br /><br />(Using 0 days will disable this feature)<br /><br />'
								 + '<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.updateDaysAlive();" class="dsq-button-small"><span>Save</span></button>'
								 + '<span id="dsq-thread-settings-status" class="dsq-options-status"></span>';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Settings');
	};

  this.showModeratorActions = function() {
      if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
          return;
      }

      var html = '<div class="dsq-moderate-options"><table><tr>' +
                 '<td>' + Dsq.Strings.ACTIONS + '</td><td><ul>';
      html += '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.toggleClosed(); return false;">' +
              (Dsq.jsonData.thread.closed ? Dsq.Strings.OPEN_THREAD : Dsq.Strings.CLOSE_THREAD) +
              '</a></li>';
      html += '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.toggleKilled(); return false;">' +
              (Dsq.jsonData.thread.killed ? Dsq.Strings.RESTORE_THREAD : Dsq.Strings.REMOVE_THREAD) +
              '</a></li>';
      html += '</ul></td></tr></table></div>' +
              '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate-threads/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
      Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, Dsq.Strings.MODERATE_OPTIONS);
  };

	this.updateDaysAlive = function() {
		  var days = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-days-alive').value;
		  var status = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-settings-status');
		  Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/update_days_alive.js', {days:days,thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
		  status.innerHTML = 'Saved!';
		  window.setTimeout(function() { status.innerHTML = ''; }, 1000);
	};

  this.toggleClosed = function() {
      Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/toggle_thread_closed.js', {thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
      window.setTimeout(function() { window.location.reload(); }, 500);
  };

  this.toggleKilled = function() {
      Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/toggle_thread_killed.js', {thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
      window.setTimeout(function() { window.location.reload(); }, 500);
  };
};
// Dsq.Thread

Dsq.Events = function() {
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var handlers = {};
	var getHandlers = function(event) {
		if (handlers[event] === undefined) {
			handlers[event] = [];
		}
		return handlers[event];
	};

	// Public
	// Value keys : postId, node, xtype
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED = 1;
	// Value keys : postId, opened
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED = 2;
	obj.fire = function(event, opt_value) {
		if (!event) {
			throw new Error('Unknown event');
		}
		var value = opt_value || {};
		for (var i=0; i<getHandlers(event).length; i++) {
			getHandlers(event)[i](value);
		}
	};
	obj.addHandler = function(event, callback) {
		getHandlers(event).push(callback);
	};

	return obj;
}();

/**
 * Dsq.Realtime
 */
Dsq.Realtime = new function() {
	var initialized = false;
	var interval = null;
	var last_checked = Dsq.jsonData.request.timestamp;
	var new_posts = [];
	var ongoing_request = false;
	var prev_script = null;

	function updateNewPostCount() {
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-alert').style.display = new_posts.length ? 'block' : 'none';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-queued').innerHTML = new_posts.length
		+ ' new '
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, 'comment', 'comments')
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, ' was', ' were')
		+ ' just posted.';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.SHOW + ')';
	}

	function insertNewPosts() {
		var post_id = null;
		var after_id = Dsq.$('dsq-sort-select').value === 'oldest' ? -1 : null;

		for (var i=0; i<new_posts.length; i++) {
			post_id = new_posts[i];
			Dsq.Post.insert(after_id, post_id, Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id].message);
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		}
		new_posts = [];
	}

	this.enableInterval = function() {
		interval = setInterval(Dsq.Realtime.check, Dsq.jsonData.context.realtime_speed);
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.ENABLED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.PAUSE + ')';
	}

	this.disableInterval = function() {
		if (interval) {
			clearInterval(interval);
			interval = null;
		}
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.PAUSED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.RESUME + ')';
	}

	this.toggleInterval = function() {
		if (!interval) {
			Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
		} else {
			Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
		}
		return false;
	}

	this.initialize = function() {
		if (!initialized) {
			initialized = true;
			Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').onclick = this.toggleInterval;
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').onclick = this.show;
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
			if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.realtime_paused) {
				Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
			} else {
				Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
			}
		}
	}

	this.show = function() {
		insertNewPosts();
		updateNewPostCount();
		return false;
	}

	this.check = function() {
		if (!ongoing_request && Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			if (prev_script) {
				prev_script.parentNode.removeChild(prev_script);
			}
			ongoing_request = true;
			prev_script = Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/18359320/realtime.js?timestamp=' + last_checked);
		}
	};

	this.update = function(timestamp, posts, users) {
		ongoing_request = false;
		last_checked = timestamp;

		if (users) {
			for (var user_id in users) {
				if (users.hasOwnProperty(user_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id] = users[user_id];
					}
				}
			}
		}

		if (posts) {
			for (var post_id in posts) {
				if (posts.hasOwnProperty(post_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] = posts[post_id];
						new_posts.push(post_id);
					}
				}
			}

			if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				insertNewPosts();
			} else {
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
		}
	};

}();

// DEPRECATED
Dsq.Iframes = function() {
	// Different style of object from the above. Hoping to switch to this for some reason.
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var showIframeInContainer = function(container, id, markup) {
		// Look through container for iframes, hiding them, except show one that matches id
		// If none of them matched id, create a new iframe using markup and insert it.
		// Returns the iframe node if and only if it was newly created.
		var found = false;
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				if (child.id == id) {
					child.style.display = 'block';
					found = true;
				} else {
					child.style.display = 'none';
				}
			}
		}
		if (found) {
			return;
		}
		// The iframe wasn't found, so construct it and add it to the container.
		// Don't use innerHTML because it might reload iframes
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		div.innerHTML = markup;
		var iframe = div.childNodes[0];
		div.removeChild(iframe);
		container.appendChild(iframe);
		return iframe;
	};

	// Public
	obj.makeReplyIframeId = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var id = 'dsq-post-add-iframe';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			id += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			id += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return id;
	};
	obj.makeLoginIframeId = function(opt_postId) {
		if (!opt_postId) {
			return 'dsq-login-iframe';
		}
		return 'dsq-login-iframe-' + opt_postId;
	};
	obj.makeReplyIframeName = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var name = 'dsq-reply-frame';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			name += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			name += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return name;
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId, opt_extraParams, opt_className) {
		// Construct the id so we can check if it's already present.
		// Hide any other iframes we find, and show this one if it's found.
		var params = opt_extraParams || {};
		// use xtype in the id and name so we can distinguish media replies from text replies:
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeId(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var name = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeName(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var attributes = {
			'id': id,
			'name': name,
			'class': opt_className || 'dsq-post-reply'
			};
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameReply(opt_postId, opt_extraParams, attributes);
		var iframe = showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
		// It was newly created
		if (iframe) {
			Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED, {
				postId: opt_postId,
				node: iframe,
				xtype: params.xtype
			});
		}
	};
	obj.showLoginIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId) {
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeLoginIframeId(opt_postId);
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: id});
		showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed = function(container, opt_postId) {
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			obj.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, opt_postId);
		} else {
			obj.hideAllInContainer(container);
		}
	};
	obj.hideAllInContainer = function(container) {
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				child.style.display = 'none';
			}
		}
	};

	return obj;
}();

Dsq.Twitter = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.startTwitterConnect = function() {
		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=400';
		that._twitterWindow = window.open(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/twitter/begin/', 'twitterWindow', popupParams);
		that._twitterInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeTwitterConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeTwitterConnect = function() {
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Dsq.container.innerHTML = ' \
<ul id="dsq-comments">\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708289">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708289" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708289" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708289">Sam</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708289" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708289" class="dsq-comment-message">Memo to Scoble: even though still Chairman of the Board, Gates no longer setting strategy at Microsoft.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708288">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708288" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708288" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708288" href="http://techwinter.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Roger</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708288" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708288" class="dsq-comment-message">As much as it is fun to speculate I refuse to do that as companies do and act in a way that is just silly or possibly in this case egotistical.<br><br>So my main point will be on the issue of breaking past application support.  This has to be done. If bill gates is against this then Apple\'s recent advances in marketshare won\'t be just a near-term surge they will be cumulative.  Microsoft cannot continue to invest resources in this manner eventually Apple will overtake them due to the growing waste of human resources at Microsoft.<br><br>Also Microsoft should go to a yearly release cycle like Apple.  I am not interested in their products and 5 years of waiting between releases to get innovation.  Not interested in the least.<br><br>Cheers<br>Roger<br><a href="http://www.techwinter.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.techwinter.com</a></div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708253">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708253" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708253" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708253" href="http://tjgillies.007sites.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">tyler</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708253" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708253" class="dsq-comment-message">i guess only solution is to kill bill then ;)</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708254">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708254" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708254" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708254" href="http://www.techlusive.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Techlusive</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708254" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708254" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://www.techlusive.com/2008/07/24/why-should-you-choose-techlusive-for-your-tech-news/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techlusive.com/2008/07/24/why-should...</a><br><br>I know what every web tools IDE company is up to. I use all their software daily.<br><br>"Anyway, what do you think Microsoft is up to?"<br><br>Microsoft is cooling off of the OS business and focusing on Web services, b2b advertising and search. Singularity may become the future platform but by that time Linux and OSX will have eaten Microsoft\'s lunch.<br><br>.NET and the JVM will be replaced by the new latest and greatest VM and language tech by the time they can effectively be used on that level. They\'ll get to the 10th iteration of the runtime, it\'ll seem old and outdated to everybody and they\'ll be on to the next thing in CS. Period.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708255">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708255" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708255" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708255" href="http://www.loudmouthman.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Nik butler</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708255" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708255" class="dsq-comment-message">Lets face it , the desktop war is over and Microsoft won that one. The success was a hollow victory though. Since within moments of them feeling the power of being on every desktop in business was neutered by the arrival of the internet.<br><br>The net has arrived on everydesktop, device and mobile product it can reach to. It achieved this with far less effort after it outpaced compuserver and AOL.<br><br>A realisation that a virtual , cloud based , world is more dominant in a mobile internet connected world makes the need for a desktop culture irrelevant.<br><br>you dont need active directory services when your running software as a service.<br><br>your not focusing on scalability when your using the inrternet as your server room .<br><br>So internally, quietly and without much insistence I can see microsoft have changed their policy from a Computer running windows on every desktop to a Microsoft experience in every connection.<br><br>just my two pence and great to see you Scobling again Robert.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708285">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708285" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708285" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708285">Anonymous</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708285" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708285" class="dsq-comment-message">Hey Scobleizer,<br><br>After all, we have seen DOS, and Win 95.  From Win 95 to XP &amp; to Vista, it have been 7 years gap.<br><br>Is it possible for Caveman to become 21st Century Vista man?&gt;... I wouldn\'t think that one determines to do a work, no matter what, it will be done.  How many of that kind of things you achieved? that you thought you could not!..<br><br>My friend, sitting the guffing things like these are ever easier than before because of IE (by the way who created the IE? anyways!?)....<br><br>You could have been more realistic..... Never Underestimate one\'s ability!<br><br>So long Scobleizer...<br><br>from non-MS fan---but a realistic guy.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708286">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708286" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708286" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708286" href="http://darklydreamingdavid.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">DAVE ID</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708286" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708286" class="dsq-comment-message">If I remember correctly XP has 29 million lines of code. How do you rewrite all that? Sounds like it could take some time to start over. But I could be wrong.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708284">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708284" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708284" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708284" href="http://einarvollset.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Einar Vollset</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708284" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708284" class="dsq-comment-message">Hi. Actually reading your blogs now. Which is good. Was only scanning headlines before to figure out what to read in depth elsewhere. Anyways. Keep up the good work.<br><br>Oh, and : <a href="http://research.microsoft.com/os/Singularity/" rel="nofollow">http://research.microsoft.com/os/Singularity/</a> ..is what you mean?<br><br>p.s. From my recent comment - people tend to be happy in relation to whether they\'re happy with what they\'re doing. And I can\'t understand why someone would<br>be happy telling their grandsons they aggregated twitter and flickr. But, I am often,<br>frequently and painfully wrong.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Einar</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708283">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708283" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708283" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708283" href="http://www.technovia.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Ian Betteridge</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708283" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708283" class="dsq-comment-message">It would be helpful if you explained *why* you think MS won\'t do a non-Windows OS, rather than just stating that it won\'t, claiming that everyone who believes otherwise is an idiot, and not giving us any actual reasons.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708282">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708282" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708282" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708282">Christopher Coulter</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708282" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708282" class="dsq-comment-message">Idiocy or not, it be their only hope. Modular, independent parts, emulated layers, death of "code and fix".<br><br>As you can\'t have many more Vista\'s without serious trouble. Meanwhile, Vista Business licenses shipped XP, still counting as a Vista install. Might as well give up on Vista, and talk up Windows 7, counting on that as the Enterprise upgrade.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708281">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708281" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708281" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708281">Guest</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708281" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708281" class="dsq-comment-message">This Midori team needs a radical different approach, they SHOULD come up with something different after Vista. But than again, the future is for WWW so I\'m migrating to Ubuntu today. It runs Firefox in a completely safe environment, what else do I need?</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708279">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708279" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708279" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708279" href="http://eweri.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Paul Kinlan</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708279" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708279" class="dsq-comment-message">Hi,<br><br>Ian: Robert does say why they wont, it is on the last paragraph.<br><br>Personally, I quite like this post, it is a conversation starter.  The problem being it is only devs like me who care about it being written in .Net and the benefits it may or may not bring.<br><br>I have been of the opinion recently that retro fitting "new ways" of thinking into old tech maybe isn\'t the best place to spend your money and a ground up re-write may be better - or at least large sections, but then again this is on Enterprise Apps that I have worked on and not an OS.  Didn\'t Apple do this with OS X?<br><br>Paul.<br><br>Paul.<br><br>twit: @PaulKinlan</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708280">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708280" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708280" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708280">Ruben</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708280" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708280" class="dsq-comment-message">That\'s what he\'s talking about. Singularity project, now known as Midori. And I concur with his analysis.<br><br>PS as someone who doesn\'t use either twitter not flickr, I can still see value in the way new social connection models are changing user behavior. That may not be something to tell your grandsons, but it\'s something they may get to experience some day. Cheers!</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708278">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708278" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708278" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708278" href="http://aiusepsi.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">aiusepsi</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708278" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708278" class="dsq-comment-message">Here\'s a clue as to why totally scrapping Windows and starting again is a bad idea: What are the reasons people think Vista sucks?<br><br>Because apps broke, and the driver support sucked at launch.<br><br>Mostly, that\'s because Microsoft ripped out a few huge chunks of the system (graphics, audio and networking, for instance) and totally overhauled them, not to mention the huge changes around security.<br><br>If you tear up Windows, and start again, you lose all compatibility with everything. It\'s a terrible, terrible idea.<br><br>People are going to like Windows 7 just because it\'s going to be a lot like Vista. Much, much less stuff is going to be broken on Day One.<br><br>I wouldn\'t be surprised if they productised Singularity as Midori just because the approach the Singularity guys are taking is immensely valuable in some scenarios, mostly ones around reliability.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708275">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708275" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708275" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708275">Jim Brock</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708275" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708275" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'d say they\'re working towards closer integration between .net/wcf/wpf and LiveMesh...<br><br>Wasn\'t there a memo from Steve Balmer recently about putting more distance between Microsoft and hadware ? Have a basic OS (Vista/XP/Linux/Mac) take care of the actual hardware machine and run the rest on a <a href="http://web/.net" rel="nofollow">web/.net</a> based system seperated from the physical machine....</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708276">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708276" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708276" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708276">cazzone</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708276" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708276" class="dsq-comment-message">isn\'t so nice to joke with future death of people :(<br>I think scoble will be first than bill gates.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708277">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708277" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708277" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708277" href="http://neilmosafi.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Neil Mosafi</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708277" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708277" class="dsq-comment-message">Check out SharpOS and Singularity, this stuff is possible!</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708271">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708271" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708271" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708271">Ex-Windows 7 developer</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708271" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708271" class="dsq-comment-message">You only technically need to get 1 app to run on the new O/S to ensure full compatibility: Hyper-V. Ship Vista &amp; Windows Server for free with the new O/S and launch the Virtual Machine for older apps. Easier said... but has to be done.<br><br>This is the only way that the O/S division will be able to innovate ever again. The new Win7 processes makes it impossible for anybody on that team to work on anything new or revolutionary (not even if your team wants to target Win8 - long term investments are not allowed!). Win7 is going to end up being a smaller change from Vista than XPSP2 was from XP.<br><br>If Vista is used by scholars to study how to ship software, Win7 should be studied as how to NOT to ship or manage anything.<br><br>But I can tell you exactly when Microsoft will have a managed-code based O/S:  Three years after Apple has one.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708272" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708272" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708272" href="http://www.sigmaman.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Mitch Featherston</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708272" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708272" class="dsq-comment-message">I think MS has truly learned something from Vista\'s poor reception. The next Windows release will be juiced with consumer goodness, and heavily marketed as "new" and "innovative".</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708273" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708273" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708273" href="http://teethgrinder.co.uk/open-flash-chart/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">monk.e.boy</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708273" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708273" class="dsq-comment-message">.NET just makes coding easier. It\'s not a fucking magic bullet that will make an OS perfect. Sheesh. You could code the same stuff in c, c++, python... it\'s just a matter of taste. Who cares what the next MS OS is written in? So long as it works.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708274" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708274" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708274">Svend Tofte</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708274" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708274" class="dsq-comment-message">Microsoft breaks many old apps. A good example is the abandonment of old VB, and the incompatability of old VB with VB.NET.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708267" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708267" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708267">Scott C.</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708267" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708267" class="dsq-comment-message">Yeah, it is ridiculous how easily people think things like operating systems, apps or even websites on the other end of the spectrum can be done...from scratch!<br><br>And even if MS was able to rewrite their OS from the ground-up, the press would be complaining for years that it\'s buggy because it takes years for the majority of bugs and stuff in OSs to be found and ironed out. It\'s a no-win situation, so MS is choosing the path of simply supporting legacy apps and code...can\'t blame \'em.<br><br>The mainstream media is just dumb when it comes to technology.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708268" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708268" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708268">ButtMunch</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708268" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708268" class="dsq-comment-message">Would you use an OS completely written in Java?<br><br>There you have your answer to how stupid you have to be...</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708269" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708269" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708269" href="http://sebmos.at/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Sebastian</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708269" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708269" class="dsq-comment-message">The reason why Microsoft won\'t do that is simple: It\'s too risky. They have about 50 million lines of code in Vista. You\'ll break a lot of stuff if you\'re completely rewriting it, no matter how hard you try to be compatible with old stuff.<br>Apple could do that because not a lot of people used it back then and the Apple brand is strong enough so that they don\'t need to care about their customers THAT much. If Microsoft would break only half the applications that Apple breaks with every new release, people would go crazy.<br><br>What Microsoft should do is to split their operating system up in separate components, a bit like Linux. That\'s a hell of a lot of work, but it would likely make the debugging and building process easier, which would make the development itself easier and probably less error-prone. Also, they could replace problematic components more easily.<br>The code of Microsoft is a mess - they have to clean it up. That would make solving many of their problems much easier.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708270" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708270" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708270">Editor</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708270" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708270" class="dsq-comment-message">Hello Robert. Did you not see where Worthington quoted a Microsoft executive saying that there was no development schedule? Did you even read the entire story, or are you just bloviating?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708266">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708266" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708266" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708266">Mike Woodhouse</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708266" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708266" class="dsq-comment-message">Isn\'t the legacy-app "problem" something that\'s going to be handled by virtualisation? Once we have a swanky new not-Windows we\'ll just run the old stuff in Windows under the supervision of a hypervisor.<br><br>Seems pretty simple to me (hah!)</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708265" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708265" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708265">Dave</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708265" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708265" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'ve said in other forums that I don\'t think there will be another successful new-from-scratch, general purpose OS from anyone. Ever. The last one was Windows NT. Completely -- or even mostly -- replicating the functionality of Windows or OSX (which was pretty much a tweaked BSD Unix + a new GUI + a Mac OS 9 compatibility layer) or Linux (which was a Unix workalike) is just too much work. Only Microsoft could afford to do it, and they have a major financial interest in not doing it. And Linux and the BSDs are sucking up all the oxygen for open source projects.<br><br>Besides, if you really want a new, custom OS for some reason, it\'s too much easier to just start from a base of Linux or BSD Unix,  which is already there and free to use.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708264" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708264" href="http://galaxyspectrum.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Public Relations</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708264" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708264" class="dsq-comment-message">Microsoft\'s direction will be dependent on the evolution of the PC.<br><br>Imagine the technology 10 years from now? How about 40 years from now?<br><br>Imagine mobile technology advancing so as to cut in half the usage of the PC - like cell phones and VOIP have affected landlines.<br><br>In terms of the LOTUS analogy about breaking old apps - perhaps a powerful Virtual ware or middle ware will be added on the OS - that will act as a client SOA to allow anyone to access and integrate with those old apps.<br><br>Also, Microsoft will have to invest in the SAAS trend that can only get bigger.<br>They will probably focus on integrating the concept in their software so everything is accessible and editable at all times - then synched.<br><br>40 years from now - their may be a new language to replace .NET.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708251" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708251" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708251" href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Mary Jo Foley</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708251" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708251" class="dsq-comment-message">Hi, Robert:<br><br>What SD Times\' story (and my previous coverage on Midori -- <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1466" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1466</a>) both noted is that the origins of Midori is Singularity, Microsoft\'s managed code OS which is not Windows-based. Singularity was written from scratch and didn\'t use Windows as the core.<br><br>Microsoft is looking ahead -- as it should be -- to what comes after Windows as it exists today. Near term, Windows 7, Windows 8. Longer term, it\'s Midori (unless the project never makes it out of incubation). Windows is big and bloated; starting over with something new is needed. And virtualization will allow MS to carry the user base with them... Mary Jo</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708293" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708293" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708293" href="http://www.revision3.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jim Louderback</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708293" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708293" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'ve known David Worthington for a long time, and he\'s one of the more tech-savvy reporters on the beat.  Not an idiot by a long shot.  Maybe you need to rethink your assumptions, and read the article more closely.   Quotes in the article from MSFT clearly say that its a research project and 10 years off if at all.<br><br>jim</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708250" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708250" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708250" href="http://www.betanews.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Ed Oswald</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708250" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708250" class="dsq-comment-message">Really off Robert. Calling somebody an idiot is just bad form. I didn\'t really see any kind of solid explanation why David is wrong. And if you really believe Bill Gates would hold onto this codebase for 20+ years, I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.<br><br>That kind of assumption is almost idiotic in itself!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708252" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708252" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708252" href="http://jeffsolomon.com/blog" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jeff</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708252" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708252" class="dsq-comment-message">Sounds like a research project that is well worth undertaking right now. I\'d summarize my take on it as this (imagine Microsoft speaking): "If we could start over from scratch today, taking advantage of everything we\'ve learned and everything we know about the state of computing and networking today and our current concept of the future, what would it look like?"<br><br>Why SHOULDN\'T Microsoft be doing this? They would be doing themselves a disservice if they weren\'t asking these questions and trying to find the answers. How this work gets productized is a completely different question. I doubt this initiative will result in a new OS release as we typically define them. This sounds more like Microsoft\'s "Cairo" project, the definition of which shifted over time but which ended up providing a baseline of ideas and technologies, many of which were added to Windows and Windows products over time.<br><br>Also, while I think Microsoft will remain focused on profound levels of backward compatibility in its OS products for the foreseeable future, I think people underestimate the ability of virtualization to provide that compatibility. An OS no longer needs to be compatible at its core to run older software- it just needs to be able to virtualize a system that can handle it, and as virtualization technologies continue to get better and better, I think it becomes feasible to think that MS could eventually replace Windows with something different that still maintains high levels of compatibility.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708291" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708291" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708291">Technobabe</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708291" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708291" class="dsq-comment-message">Dude, did you actually read the article? It was actually well-researched and well-written, and even if something like Midori is 10-plus years out, Microsoft has to do something along these lines because Windows as we know it is a dying breed. But I guess Microsoft cronies like you can\'t see that<br><br>Wonder why MSFT missed the boat on the Web? They couldn\'t see the forest for the trees. Maybe they don\'t want to make that mistake again. And maybe you shouldn\'t make it for them either. I think you\'re just angry David scooped you.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708247" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708247" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708247">Ben</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708247" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708247" class="dsq-comment-message">Didn\'t Bill just turn over the reigns of the company to Ballmer, and some guy named Ray Ozzie as the Chief Technology something or other?,  In which case, why are we laying this at Gates\' feet?  Sure I\'m guessing he will still be somewhat involved in things, but if he is going to continue to set strategy for the company after semi-officially leaving, then there will be too much infighting and continued loyalty to Bill if he even hints at doing something else, that MS will never get anything done from now on.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708292" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708292" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708292">HenryB</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708292" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708292" class="dsq-comment-message">VM technology, if properly integrated, would allow old apps like 123 to run on (along side) a completly new OS in a transparent way.   Such an architecture has importnat advantages for security that are end-user marketable.   Politics, not technology, have always been in the way of inovation at the Soft.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708290" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708290" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708290">joecab</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708290" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708290" class="dsq-comment-message">Pardon my ignorance, but why COULDN\'T they do a complete rewrite with a rock-solid emulator for older apps? That\'s part of what worked in Apple\'s favor: don\'t break older apps but still set them off in their own little neighborhood to gradually wean people off them and point them to a brighter future. It\'ll work, but again, we\'re talking ROCK SOLID for this to succeed. Isn\'t it better to make this transition by choice rather than out of desperation like Apple had to?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708287">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708287" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708287" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708287" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708287" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708287" class="dsq-comment-message">Mary Jo Foley: I interviewed the Singularity team back when they started. They are NOT trying to replace Windows. They are trying to do operating system research. While not built on top of Windows Singularity IS built on top of .NET\'s compilers and runtimes.<br><br>Jim Louderback and others: I didn\'t say the author of the article is an idiot. My headline came mostly from seeing other people pick up what he wrote and take the headline on its face, that this is an effort to replace Windows with something new.<br><br>Even Windows still has pieces of DOS underneath. The idea that you could rewrite Windows and have any application and driver compatibility is just not realistic. I have both Parallels and VMWare running on my Mac and they both suck compared to a real Windows machine.<br><br>Microsoft is NOT Apple. Apple has, what, a handful of computers that they need to support? Microsoft has a whole industry of thousands of pieces of hardware that they must support.<br><br>Now, that\'s not saying that Midori and Singularity don\'t have a HUGE amount of value. They do: as research projects or as projects to build something completely new that are NOT Windows. Maybe a new cell phone OS? Maybe a new kind of server OS where app and driver compatibility won\'t matter.<br><br>But to even try to say with a straight face that such an effort will even attempt to replace Windows anytime in the forseeable future is just plain stretching it.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708261" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708261" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708261" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708261" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708261" class="dsq-comment-message">joecab: an emulator would break thousands of apps and cause many others to run really crappy. I\'ve run Windows on VMWare and Parallels. I hated it. Even though it ran it was slow and buggy on both and tons of apps wouldn\'t run at their full potential. Even Vista needs better video capabilities, for instance.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708262" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708262" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708262">Ian L.</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708262" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708262" class="dsq-comment-message">Microsoft will not do a complete rewrite in the next 30-40 years, and you are an idiot if you think otherwise! Actually, make that 10 years.<br><br>What are you trying to SAY?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708263">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708263" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708263" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708263" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708263" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708263" class="dsq-comment-message">Anything longer than 3 years out is impossible to predict, is what I\'m trying to say. :-)<br><br>But, I know the kernel team is working on Windows 8.0 already and it\'s not a rewrite, so that takes us at least into 2013.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708260" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708260" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708260">wekempf</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708260" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708260" class="dsq-comment-message">"Mary Jo Foley: I interviewed the Singularity team back when they started. They are NOT trying to replace Windows. They are trying to do operating system research. While not built on top of Windows Singularity IS built on top of .NET’s compilers and runtimes. "<br><br>Wow!  Just, wow!<br><br>Scoble, you need to stop trying to talk like you have a clue about what you\'re discussing when it comes to software development.  You\'re just making a fool of yourself.  You\'re assertion that Midori couldn\'t possibly replace Windows in the short term is obvious.  Assuming this has anything to do with .NET not being capable, or then confusing an OS with a compiler and a runtime (do you know what that means?), is just sheer idiocy.  You\'re talking like you have insider information and technical understanding, when I highly doubt you have the former and it\'s obvious you don\'t have the latter.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708257" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708257" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708257">Ian L.</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708257" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708257" class="dsq-comment-message">Well, if it\'s impossible to predict technology then why call folks with less popular opinions idiots? The folks who make safe guesses are wrong just as often.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708258" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708258" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708258">Andy Freeman</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708258" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708258" class="dsq-comment-message">What is so special about managed code that makes writing an OS in it interesting or difficult?  (I\'ve written managed code and I know something about lisp machines and the xerox D-machines.)</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708259" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708259" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708259" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708259" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708259" class="dsq-comment-message">Andy: the programmers at Microsoft tell me that managed code is a TON easier to write. Mostly cause you don\'t have to do so much worrying about memory and all that. At least that\'s what they tell me. The downside? Performance, memory usage, and also engineering tools to help figure out where bugs are and all that.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708249" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708249" href="http://aiusepsi.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">aiusepsi</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708249" class="dsq-comment-message">What makes managed code interesting for OSes is that you can use properties of managed code to make provably true assertions about the state of the system.<br><br>For example, in managed code you can\'t manipulate pointers, so you can have all your processes and the kernel sharing the same address space, running in kernel mode, without worrying that one of the programs is going to behave badly and corrupt memory belonging to the kernel.<br><br>This reduces the cost of calls into the kernel and inter-process communication down to pretty much zero, because you don\'t have to do a hardware context switch. You get a performance GAIN out of having your OS in managed code.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708248" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708248" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708248">David Loster</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708248" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708248" class="dsq-comment-message">&gt;the programmers at Microsoft tell me that managed code is a TON easier &gt;to write. Mostly cause you don’t have to do so much worrying about &gt;memory and all that.<br><br>Robert, this is true, but you are drawing the wrong conclusions. Managed code is great for _applications_, because you aren\'t interested in memory management. However, we you are writing a production OS (not an experimental one like Singularity) you want full control of the memory, not extra layers. When you are writing a driver you want direct access to your own hardware, not to go through somebody else\'s run-time environment.<br><br>There\'s a time and a place for managed code. The internals of the kernel is not one of them.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708298">wekempf</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708298" class="dsq-comment-message">"Andy: the programmers at Microsoft tell me that managed code is a TON easier to write. Mostly cause you don’t have to do so much worrying about memory and all that. At least that’s what they tell me. The downside? Performance, memory usage, and also engineering tools to help figure out where bugs are and all that."<br><br>And again, you don\'t know what you\'re talking about.  Performance isn\'t really an issue (top Microsoft employees demonstrated this), especially when a "managed OS" will have already loaded the runtime.  Memory usage is manageable.  Engineering tools exist already and are, if anything, are more robust due to reflection and other aspects of managed code.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708299">joecab</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708299" class="dsq-comment-message">Then unless MS does something super risky like start a brand-new OS alongside Windows that\'s tempting enough to start getting people (especially cutting edge users) to transition over, I dunno what they can do. Apple is going through another coding rewrite for efficiency with Snow Leopard which will I assume be Intel only, rewrite anything still using more Carbon code than it should (*cough*Finder*cough*), and speed things up across the board. It\'s not anywhere near as radical as going from OS 9 to OS X but it sure seems like something you need to do every few years to stay competitive.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708300" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708300" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708300">Andy Freeman</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708300" class="dsq-comment-message">I shouldn\'t have used the word "interesting" - there\'s no question that managed code has benefits.  (Remember, I wrote that I\'ve written managed code.)<br><br>"Difficult" was the key word - why is it hard for MS to write an OS using managed code?  It\'s been done a couple of times before.  (I even mentioned a couple of them in the parenthetical and there are others.)<br><br>You do know that "managed code" is merely MS-speak for code that has certain properties and that MS didn\'t invent any of those properties or even their combination, right?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708295" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708295" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708295">Andy Freeman</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708295" class="dsq-comment-message">&gt; For example, in managed code you can’t manipulate pointers, so you can have all your processes and the kernel sharing the same address space, running in kernel mode, without worrying that one of the programs is going to behave badly and corrupt memory belonging to the kernel.<br><br>Not to get geekish, but you\'re overstating the benefits and ignoring the costs.  Yes, there are system calls where the cost of switching address spaces and protection domains is significant, but for a running system, it isn\'t because most calls do enough work that the switch cost is negligible.<br><br>And, you still have to manage/control managed applications even if they\'re running in the same address space.  It\'s not enough to avoid corruption, you\'ve got to control usage as well.  (You probably even want to manage addresses for VM efficiency.)  Separate address spaces help with some of these things.<br><br>It\'s unlikely that there\'s any advantage when it comes to data for OS calls and IO, but that argument would require some actual numbers.<br><br>The key point remains that this is old stuff.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708301" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708301">Robin Goodfellow</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708301" class="dsq-comment-message">This is not some deep secret, there\'s plenty of publicly available info on Midori on the web.<br><br>There\'s a project called "singularity" at MS which is basic research into the fundamentals of operating systems. How programs message each other and the kernel, how process isolation works, how APIs and API calling should work, etc. This is not an OS in any sense, it\'s a mock system designed for exploring certain questions in OS design. All of the most popular OSes currently in use inherit a great deal of design fundamentals from older OSes, in a very real sense modern OSes are still working with the same design tradeoffs (in performance, robustness, development complexity, etc.) made in the 1970s. Singularity is research into how to gain advantage from revisiting some of these fundamental OS design decisions. It\'s not the core of an OS, it\'s not a kernel, it\'s a research tool.<br><br>Midori takes that research one or two steps further, building on the Singularity work to explore what consequences some of the Singularity results have for OS design and application development. Additionally, Midori looks at how it might be possible to make some of these new OS design concepts practical, and to merge them into future operating systems that people actually use. Fundamentally this means they are working at showing that these concepts are feasible to build into operating systems and have practical benefits, which will give them the credibility necessary to convince the folks in the Windows division to take these ideas seriously and start merging some of the features into new versions of Windows.<br><br>Midori is not some super secret Skunk Works project which designed to surprise the whole world with a revolutionary new OS to replace Windows. Unfortunately, Midori has become the object of a great deal of rumor mongering which has resulted in every manner of claim being made about it, without any shred of backing. Midori will shine your shoes and walk your dog automatically, it will be a cloud computing OS, it will "replace" Windows, it will be "web-centric", etc, etc, etc. Most of these are ridiculous claims.<br><br>FYI:<br>The Singularity public web page:<br><a href="http://research.microsoft.com/os/singularity/" rel="nofollow">http://research.microsoft.com/os/singularity/</a></div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708302" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708302">Joel</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708302" class="dsq-comment-message">The app-compat issue is easily solved: spin up an isolated, hardware virtualized instance of Vista/XP/whatever, whenever you need it. What else are we going to do with all those other processor cores not being used?<br><br>There are very few technical hurdles left to achieving this reality. Given this to be true, I no longer buy the argument that you *can\'t* rewrite from scratch because of app-compat issues.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708303" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708303" href="http://blogs.msdn.com/xboxteam" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">skeptical</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708303" class="dsq-comment-message">Hmm. They did it once already.<br><br>"... Xbox runs a custom operating system built from the ground up.  While our operating system exports many of the same APIs found in Win32 (e.g. CreateThread or WaitForSingleObject), not everything is there.  For instance, there is no use for CreateWindow on Xbox - all graphics are done through (our own flavor of) Direct3D."<br><br><a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/xboxteam/archive/2006/02/17/534421.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.msdn.com/xboxteam/archive/2006/02/...</a></div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708304" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708304">par7133</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708304" class="dsq-comment-message">Transcript of the conversation interceded between Jon DeVaan and Bill Gates:<br><br>Jon DeVaan: "Hi .."<br>Bill email (subject): "Have u tried Vista, what\'s the matter with the performances?"<br>Jon DeVaan: "Nvidia, Ausus, .."<br>Bill  email (subject): "And what\'s about us.."<br>Jon DeVaan: "Nvidia, Ausus, .."<br>Bill  email (subject): "We have no responsibility?"<br>Jon DeVaan: "Maybe.."<br>Bill email (subject): "What?"<br>Jon DeVaan: ".Net Sir"<br>Bill  email (subject): "Aaaaaaahhh.. .Neeeet!"<br>Bill  email (subject): "Don\'t disclose it!"<br>Some days later..<br>Bill  email (subject): "Let\'s the guys of the research starts a new OS. And wWe\'ll go to check what .Net is and what is not too, ah-ah-ah!"</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708305" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708305" href="http://ultrareview.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">tom.schavo</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708305" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708305" class="dsq-comment-message">Lol! as a matter of fact bill gates put a challenge to big giants like yahoo, etc to come up with an effiecient operating system of their own that can take the market, especially become favourite of the house wives. Lets see if they can beat that.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708296" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708296" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708296">Klimzk</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708296" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708296" class="dsq-comment-message">Breaking past APPs is not that scary a thing with nowadays virtualization technologies. You could put in some virtual environment to simulate the previous OS so that old APPs still have a place if you need them. MS is not going to let compatibility issues bother them forever.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708306" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708306" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708306">George</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708306" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708306" class="dsq-comment-message">I think Vista gets a failing grade when it comes to backwards compatibility.  The Windows team made so many breaking changes in Vista in the name of security.  One of the biggest blunders of Vista in this area is it\'s inability to run IE6.<br><br>I\'m sure we\'d all like to see IE6 go away, but for many businesses who have built web apps on the IE6 platform (that didn\'t change in years when it was around), they\'ve found that their web apps don\'t work in IE7.  So, for them, Vista is not an option.<br><br>It seems that Microsoft is in a bit of predicament.  Their current OS suffers from backwards compatibility issues, and people will not move to it because of that, yet it keeps all of the baggage of being built upon an aging and obsolete design.  When you think about it, Vista gives you all the disadvantages of a new OS while giving you all the disadvantages of an old OS.  Microsoft has completely gotten it backwards with Vista.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708307" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708307" href="http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">steveballmer</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708307" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708307" class="dsq-comment-message">Indeed we are working on a new OS, so there!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708308" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708308" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708308" href="http://growthumbles.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Curtis</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708308" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708308" class="dsq-comment-message">I agree Robert<br><br>Why would Microsoft rewrite a successful Os for a long time. People griped about about 95 98 and xp. Now that Vista is out people gripe even more.<br><br>Older apps don\'t work, it hogs memory and my favorite the User Account Control is annoying me. If Apple did twice as much, people wouldn\'t bat an eye.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708309" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708309" href="http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">steveballmer</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708309" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708309" class="dsq-comment-message">I admit it! Apple is better at propaganda!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708311" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708311" href="http://adir1.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">adir1</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708311" class="dsq-comment-message">It seems to me that we are indeed discounting the future here. .Net or not, when running on 16GB 16 CPU computer of not so distant future, who would care?<br><br>I think standartization of hardware needs to happen, and the sooner the better. Then you wouldn\'t need 300 different drivers for every little device. Anyone remembers how cumbersome it was to connect anything to computer, before USB?<br><br>This trend should continue into CPU, Audio, motherboards and other things. So that you could reasonably make everything work together without "translating" every little command to work differntly, depending on which brand of Audio card you have in there.<br><br>I believe Microsoft is seeing that also, hence the recent "we will talk to hardware guys" hint.<br><br>However, I am not so sure they see the computing model transformation happening 5 years or so down the road, when your mobile phone/device will become the only computing gadget you ever need. Capable of everything and anything your old clunky desktop could do. That is the solid rewrite opportunity, and if they don\'t start now (or last year), they will definitely miss yet another computing transformation.<br><br>Sadly, though Apple has the technological edge here, I am not the one to agree with their "user is stupid" philosophy. Yes, many are, but some aren\'t. And the ratio between "clueless" PC users to "power" users will keep shifting at an ever accelerating pace, as the new generation grows up, just like my 4 year old, with wireless Internet-connected laptop on his plastic table from "Little Tikes".</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708312" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708312" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708312">jonas</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708312" class="dsq-comment-message">i\'d really like you to do more of these blog posts. you know, one that doesnt contain the word friendfeed or twitter that often, and that focuses on heavy prediction concerning something i bit bigger than a sub 500.000 user site :) (i don\'t want you to become cringley, though..) :D</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708256" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708256" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708256" href="http://imulus.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">George Morris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708256" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708256" class="dsq-comment-message">I don\'t think the traditional OS is in their plans for the future, instead I see them jumping into the whole SAAS / Grid Computing wagon.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708297" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708297" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708297" href="http://www.keywebdata.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris Lang</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708297" class="dsq-comment-message">Actually, this is what they are going to try to do. Computing from the cloud.<br><br>With the .net framework installed in you machine, you can add .net controls to a web page and if viewed thru Internet Explorer the controls will run. They basically give you the look and feel of the OS but in a web page and you don\'t have to compile all that AJAX in the browser to get that interactivity.<br><br>So far less code is embedded in the OS and more of it can be delivered thru the browser and yet you will have the options for you to add them to your online application but deliver them thru the browser.<br><br>And yes, these types of .net apps can interact with the local OS on your machine just like embedded software programs do.<br><br>So, instead of having a version of Windows installed on your machine, you have the basic needs to get the machine booted and then the rest is delivered thru the browser.<br><br>Microsoft has been pushing this to developers for years, but you have to run IE for the controls to be recognized.<br><br>This would make Windows more secure because MS would control their GUI from their servers and updates would no longer be so invasive of constantly necessary.<br><br>If you want to learn more about this, Google "microsoft thin client"</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708313" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708313" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708313">Vince</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708313" class="dsq-comment-message">Microsoft might be writing a new OS, but most likely for Internet based applications. So instead of you installing every single app (Outlook, Excel, Word, Access, etc) you\'ll be accessing it via a web browser, and most likely it\'ll be ran from a set top box in your house in front of your TV, so while you are watching your fav show or something, you can pull up the web browser, and it can look up related topics to what you are watching, or something to that effect, basically merging your computer, tv, and life all into one. Not to mention pulling your tv signals onto your phone over a broadband connection.<br><br>I doubt MS will rewrite an entire OS just to move ahead in the game or to start a new path in technology. Most likely they\'ll write this new OS just for developers, basically open source. But who knows, this is Microsoft, they were the ones to pioneer a standardized driver system (DirectX) and also forge ahead in new technologies and force everyone to move with them (Windows 2000, XP) So we\'ll have to wait and see.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708246" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9708246" href="http://www.larrybradshaw.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Larry Bradshaw</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708246" class="dsq-comment-message">New Os Smew OS<br><br>Working with engineers, managing IT projects / programs, servicing business needs I can tell you that what matters to the boots on the ground is reliability, security, ease of technological configuration / resiliency / adaptability.<br><br>No one talks about killer apps from anyone anymore, not MS, not Apple, nada.<br><br>In marketplace terms, what happened is that Microsoft dominated the corporate desktop, successfully killing off companies like Borland and Lotus. No one will finance the execution of new concepts if there is even the whiff that MS will, sooner or later, engage that niche as an internal product.<br><br>So, we have stagnation due to an absence of competition.<br><br>The smartest thing Microsoft could do, and I have said this for years, is to dismember itself - return to the small team / dedicated lab structures and funding that were its path to success back in the DOS and Windows 95 days.<br><br>As for writing network drivers in .NET, how does one secure that implementation? Seriously. Massive security holes exist in all .NET deployments. Built-in lock-down features such as automated and fully self contained component (.DLL, .exe, .com, registry and memory) CRC checking to make hacking and splicing vastly more difficult have been around for more than two decades, yet, still, .NET has not integrated these techniques nor does this product have any plans to do so as far as I can tell.  Nor does VISTA.<br><br>I wont even get started on aspects other than Security.<br><br>What is Microsoft doing, you ask? Waiting to react to some external competitor that no longer exists and is highly unlikely to pop up, is my answer. Meanwhile, just tooling along and marking time, as directed.<br><br>Harsh, you say?  Harsh is me saying that the worlds #1 OS, seven years after 9/11/2001, is still the #1 Security Threat to the US Government, due to its extremely poor internal security.<br><br>Harsh is me saying that I single-handedly wrote apps more than ten years ago that did internal CRC checking on themselves, and that were thus vastly more secure, ten years ago, than any commercially available product shipped by Microsoft today.<br><br>So, hey, lets not get harsh.<br><br>:)<br><br>Larry</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708310" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708310">Simon</span>\
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	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708310" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708310" class="dsq-comment-message">Robert Scoble: "... an emulator would break thousands of apps and cause many others to run really crappy. I’ve run Windows on VMWare and Parallels. I hated it. Even though it ran it was slow and buggy on both and tons of apps wouldn’t run at their full potential. .."<br><br>Robert Scoble needs to try this again. I\'ve got Windows XP running on VMWare on two cores of a four core Mac Pro right now, and I\'ve never seen it crash, "run buggy" or "crappy" or fail to run a software application. (If you\'re talking about applications that have special hardware needs - e.g. machine tool controllers - you might have a point.)<br><br>I don\'t know what it means for an application to fail to "run at their full at their full potential" means, and I wonder whether Scoble does either; If he means speed, he should write "speed." Two 2.6GHz processors may not be standard hardware now, but it will be in a year or so.<br><br>Virtualization works today, and it works well. There\'s no reason why MS couldn\'t use it successfully on a future, non-Windows OS.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9708314">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9708314" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9708314" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9708314">Dave</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9708314" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9708314" class="dsq-comment-message"><blockquote>You are an idiot if you believe &lt;strike&gt;Microsoft&lt;/strike&gt; <strong>anyone</strong> is actually going to have a completely rewritten <strong>general purpose</strong> Operating System &lt;strike&gt;before Bill Gates dies&lt;/strike&gt; <strong>ever</strong>.</blockquote><br><br>Fixed that for you.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 </ul>\
';

(function() {
	
	





Dsq.Debug.profile(function() {
	if(Dsq.jsonData.request.page == 1 && Dsq.jsonData.request.is_initial_load) {
		Dsq.container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.header() + Dsq.container.innerHTML + Dsq.Templates.footer();
	}
	Dsq.$(Dsq.curPageId).innerHTML = Dsq.$(Dsq.curPageId).innerHTML.replace(Dsq.COMMENTS_RE, Dsq.CommentsHandler);
}); // Dsq.Debug.Profile

// HACK: Resetting cache because we're done with.
Dsq.Utils.gebiFromElementCollectionCache = null;


	
	
	var dsq_styleEl = document.getElementById(disqus_container_id);
	var dsq_anchorEl = document.getElementsByTagName('a')[0];
	
	Dsq.Thread.fc = Dsq.Utils.getStyle(dsq_styleEl, 'color');
	if(dsq_anchorEl) { Dsq.Thread.ac = Dsq.Utils.getStyle(dsq_anchorEl, 'color'); }
	Dsq.Thread.ff = Dsq.Utils.getStyle(dsq_styleEl, (Dsq.Utils.ie || window.opera ? 'fontFamily' : 'font-family'));
	// For Safari / Opera: strip quotes.
	Dsq.Thread.ff = Dsq.Thread.ff.replace(/['"]/g, '');
	Dsq.Thread.fc = encodeURIComponent(Dsq.Thread.fc);
	Dsq.Thread.ac = encodeURIComponent(Dsq.Thread.ac);
	Dsq.Thread.ff = encodeURIComponent(Dsq.Thread.ff);

	
	
	
	if(Dsq.$(Dsq.Templates.addPostContainer)) {
		// TODO: Check to see if theme uses postmessage.
		if (window.disqus_use_postmessage) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$(Dsq.Templates.textareaContainer));
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].init(function() {
				// Use fallback iframe
				Dsq.$(Dsq.Templates.addPostContainer).innerHTML = '';
				var theme = (typeof disqus_frame_theme == 'undefined') ? 'default' : disqus_frame_theme;
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$(Dsq.Templates.addPostContainer), null, {theme: theme});
				// if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
			});
		} else {
			// DEPRECATED
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-post-add'));
		}
	}

	
	

	
	if(document.location.hash != '') {
		document.location.hash = document.location.hash.substring(1);
	}

	Dsq.Popup.showCookieMsgs();

	
	if(document.location.search != '' && location.hash != '#disqus_thread') {
		var reply_id = Dsq.Utils.getRequestParams().dsq;
		if(reply_id) { document.location.hash = 'comment-' + reply_id; }
	}

	
	if((typeof OB_Script != 'undefined') && (typeof OB_versionNum != 'undefined')) {
		if(navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Firefox") != -1) {
			if(window.frames['dsq-reply-frame']) {
				window.frames['dsq-reply-frame'].location = Dsq.Urls.REPLY + (new Date()).getTime() + '&f=scobleizer&t=you_are_an_idiot_if8230&to_redirect=' + encodeURIComponent(window.location) + '&ifrs=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css);
			}
		}
	}

	if (Dsq.jsonData.integration.theme == 4) {
		if (Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			Dsq.Realtime.initialize();
		}
	}

	



	window.ExecuteWhen = (function () {
	var obj = {}
	
	// Private
	var running = false;
	var timer = null;
	var pending = [];
	var startTimer = function() {
		running = true;
		timer = setInterval(obj.heartBeat, 100);
	};
	var stopTimer = function() {
		running = false;
		clearInterval(timer);
	};
	
	// Public
	obj.add = function (condition, code) {
		pending.push([condition,code]);
		this.heartBeat(); //!
		if (!running) {
			startTimer();
		}
	};
	obj.heartBeat = function() {
		if (!pending.length) {
			stopTimer();
		}
		var newPending = [];
		for (var i=0; i<pending.length; i++) {
			var cond = pending[i][0];
			var code = pending[i][1];
			// FIXME: if cond or code throw an error, they never get removed from pending
			if (cond()){
				code();
			}
			else {
				newPending.push([cond, code]);
			}
		}
		pending = newPending;
	};
	return obj;
})();

// also used in embed_thread.js:
window.fbIsReady = function () {return window.FB && FB.init;};
// NOTE: This script gets executed again without threadEl
//       set when we are loaded again as the fbc_receiver.
//       In this case, we don't need the hidden container.

if(!window.FB || !FB.init) {
	if(window.Dsq && Dsq.container) {
		// container is not present when init.js is loaded from an xd-receiver iframe; in this case,
		// we don't need the FB_HiddenContainer anyway.
		var fbDiv = document.createElement('div');
		fbDiv.id = "FB_HiddenContainer";	// Required or else FeatureLoader will execute a document.write.
		fbDiv.style.position = 'absolute';	// This is intentionally not setting display to none as this breaks
		fbDiv.style.top = '-10000px';		// Flash in Safari.
		fbDiv.style.left = '-10000px';
		fbDiv.style.width = '0px';
		fbDiv.style.height = '0px';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(fbDiv);
	}
	var fbJS = document.createElement('script');
	fbJS.type = "text/javascript";
	fbJS.src = "http://static.ak.connect.facebook.com/js/api_lib/v0.4/FeatureLoader.js.php";
	document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(fbJS);

	ExecuteWhen.add(window.fbIsReady,
		function () {
			// HACK: This is a workaround FBC's single domain limitation by
			//		 allowing sites to create multiple forums with different
			//		 Facebook API keys.  This must be used in conjunction with
			//		 disqus_facebook_forum (see authenticateFacebook).
			var facebook_api_key = 'faaf467d0f47abde553c3b8e0e1b3570';
			if (typeof disqus_facebook_api_key != 'undefined') {
				facebook_api_key = disqus_facebook_api_key;
			}

			FB.init(facebook_api_key, window.facebookXdReceiverPath || null,
				{fetchSignedPublicSessionData: true});
		});
}


	


if(typeof(disqus_callback) == 'function') {
	var callback_params = Dsq.Utils.getRequestParams()['dsq_cbp'] || null;

	// We don't care about any errors in third-party code
	try {
		disqus_callback(callback_params);
	} catch (x) {
		if (typeof(console) != 'undefined' && typeof(console.log) == 'function') {
			// But it would be nice to let developers know about them
			console.log(x);
		}
		// pass
	}

	// HACK: We don't know if the callback wraps our container, which may
	// possibly result in a new DOM element.
	Dsq.container = document.getElementById('dsq-content');
}

// Global event handler for narcissus.
if (Dsq.jsonData.integration.theme == 4) {
	var g = Dsq.Utils.ie ? document : window;
	Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(g, 'keydown', function(event) {
		// Handle "enter" key on input for post box.
		if ((event.keyCode || event.which) == 13) {
			var target = Dsq.Utils.ie ? event.srcElement : event.target;
			// For Safari bug, detect text node.
			if (target.nodeType == 3) {
				target = target.parentNode;
			}

			if (target.nodeName == 'INPUT' &&
				target.parentNode.className == 'dsq-input-wrapper') {
				var postId = Dsq.Utils.extractId(target);
				Dsq.Templates.postComment(postId, this, false);
			}
		}
	});
}

})();




