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Onward to the second (it's 4:45am where I am, by the way, and I am sitting here watching this video).  This is a great group.  I hope you can get these guys together again for some more discussions--I even enjoyed the tangents.<br><br>One suggestion: get some lapel mics.  It is especially difficult to hear you from behind the camera, Robert (particularly on crappy laptop speakers).", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_04:45:48", "killed": false, "user_key": "852415496b5a23d781e4ad4c6f9ae1b9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669320": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Josh: I'm listening too. I have crappy speakers too. It's interesting that you say you have a hard time hearing me. I don't have a hard time hearing on my system. Weird.<br><br>Lapel mics are VERY hard to deal with when you have five or six people.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_05:08:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669321": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "i'd love to have this conversation as a podcast :)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_05:38:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "5f11c37024fabb1ee1d03bb345a35701", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669322": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I love Scoble.<br><br>I say this, because I met Scoble once, and thought he was cool. It was at a Marc Canter party, and Scoble showed me a preview of an MS thing that was based on --- gosh, what do we call that now, Mr. S? Failed laptop?<br><br>Anyway, no worries.<br><br>We just keep driving on. We keep pushing on. We keep...<br><br><a href=\"http://thegoreyears.wordpress.com/2007/01/31/why-rex-grossmans-eyebrows-are-the-new-black/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://thegoreyears.wordpress.com/2007/01/31/wh...</a><br><br>I", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_05:15:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "7a4417bc2c230fd3ab1346e917475a53", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669323": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "See Steve Garfield's Video Blog for an absolutely perfect representation of the Vista experience. When will MS ever learn?<br><br><a href=\"http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2007/01/unboxing_a_wind.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2007/0...</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_07:26:34", "killed": false, "user_key": "564a9513c1e84bad9e4ade9e5b5a972e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669324": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "For a moment there, I thought you said Vista vs OS2, and I did a double take.<br><br>Time to get the popcorn and chips and pizza and settle down to a nice movie!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_10:35:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "d5f5acd664c2cf5b3bbc266b80f7fa58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669325": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The MS marketing dept. made a big mistake on the prices for the UK (and Europe), 2x the price of the US prices! Not a good way to encourage people to upgrade or prevent them from moving over to OSX. After the years of R&amp;D spend I would have thought MS would be keen to see a large uptake on the product to get some return. Big debate on BBC website about it at the moment (1.5K comments), plus Mr Gates was asked the price diff questions on UK news as he is over here at the moment but was unclear on the reasons, usual exchange rate/packaging rubbish (let us download on a global basis, only need a key via email!).<br><br><a href=\"http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=5388&amp;&amp;edition=2&amp;ttl=20070131122023\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?thr...</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_07:23:26", "killed": false, "user_key": "fd2132d9d21e3814592232964cebb1c0", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669326": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "It actually took MS 2 and one half years to create Vista after they had to start from scratch, when they realised that basing Vista on the XP kernel would't work, but thats ok, I love Vista and will be upgrading my hardware to take advantage.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_05:51:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "aba6e77dd14a6ba0fc2e7e5f07db3908", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669327": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I loved it.<br><br>Robert, I think your content is great, but I think you have to make it available in other formats. WMV would be great, so I could just download it onto my Media Center and watch it while I'm having dinner.<br><br>Watching 2 hours of video, flash size, on my desktop PC is not confortable. I enjoyed it, but I won't watch this kind of video on my desktop PC again.<br><br>I actually download Channel 9 and <a href=\"http://On10.net\" rel=\"nofollow\">On10.net</a> videos to my Media Center a lot, and that's confortable.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_06:01:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "ef4b3b937141750e1fc684c69f14c6c4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669328": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I second that.<br><br>Would be really good to get WMV/QT of all videos, but these especially.<br><br>Looks like its gonna be a fun old time :D", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_06:29:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "f3397fc47c9cff784f6fbb703b954e33", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669329": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Garry Conn makes the same old mistake regarding the meaning of the word 'Popular'.<br><br>Popular means - \"liked, admired, or enjoyed by many people or by a particular person or group\".<br><br>Windows is by no stretch of the imagination LIKED or ENJOYED :-)<br><br>What Garry Conn probably meant to say is Windows is the most common operating system.<br><br>It would therefore be accurate to say that common in this context means - occurring, found, or done often; prevalent. This would indeed apply to Windows.<br><br>However one could equally use the following alternate meanings for common when describing Windows.<br><br>Common - ordinary; of ordinary qualities<br>Common - showing a lack of taste and refinement<br><br>Or<br><br>Common as muck<br><br>But absolutely, positively, definitely, not Popular.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_11:22:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "8f9d48d85f2ad8543f9154219e2f6184", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669330": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I personally like Windows Vista better. But I am not impressed that it took so many years to produce and during that time Mac had a more stable and secure operating system.<br><br>Mac is great! Don't get me wrong... but the reality of the situation is that Windows is installed into I would guess 8 out of 10 personal computers... It's probably 9 out of 10... but I will say 8.<br><br>Windows is the most popular operating system. If it is the best one to use... I don't know? I just know that I enjoy using it and I am more comfortable using Windows over Mac because of how many countless hours, days, week, months, and years I have used Windows.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_05:29:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "1d10ea1e5d55cb0bb567a899c2fdf9f8", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669331": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Well, the second video lived up the hype. Thoroughly enjoyable stuff.<br><br>Robert, perhaps it is just these speakers (the speakers on this new VAIO are even worse than the ones on my old Dell).  What if Maryam just held a boom mic the whole time? ;) (kidding, kidding)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_06:51:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "852415496b5a23d781e4ad4c6f9ae1b9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669332": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hmm, I had a few wee plays with OSX, and yeah, it does seem nice and simple.<br>I wasn't that impressed though, nothing really grabbed me as amazing or intuitive, but I suppose you would have to use the OS everyday to actually form a proper opinion on how good it is.<br><br>As for the stability of Vista, I have been running vista daily since February now.<br>The system itself has not crashed once.Ever!<br>Sure, a few applications I have installed have had a few issues, but rather than hang the system like they would have in XP, vista gives you the option of persevering or killing the app.<br><br>The problem with running Vista is that anyone can try to install it on any old piece of crap.<br>With apple, everything is sorted upon purchase, which is good for some.<br><br>Not for me though, I like to build my own computers.<br><br>I built two conroe powered computers for a friend who uses them for rendering, using lightwave.<br>And yes, there were a few teething issues to begin with,  but they were sorted pretty quick.<br>Now, his business partner has a mac pro, and just one of these conroe powered PC's out rendered the mac, 2 minutes a frame to the macs 4 minutes.<br>The mac cost a little bit more than both PC's, and yes, they came with a widescreen monitor and peripherals.<br>So my friend quadrupled his production time by going with windows.<br><br><br>By the way, as far as I am aware, there are no conroe powered macs out there, I might be wrong, but a google search seems to bring up some rather ambiguous results.<br>I might be wrong, correct me if this is the case.<br><br>Someone mentioned the Macs have better graphics than PC's.<br><br>How so?<br><br>What is the best Graphics Card you can get for a Mac?<br>As far as I can tell, its the higher price than normal Quadro FX 4500.<br><br>Do they support Quadro FX 5500 1GB?<br> No.<br>Do the support the 8 series nVidia cards?<br> No.<br>Do they support DX10?<br> No.<br><br>So please, tell me why they would have better graphics?<br><br>Food for thought.<br><br>Anyway, I suppose we will have to wait until they are happy with the iPhone, and then maybe we can see how good Leopard is eh?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-01_07:03:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "f2018ca51e8e93d3a6d5992e74a1ee72", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669333": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"no trips to the \u2018computer repair shop\u2019.\"<br><br>Bwahaha, yeah right :D", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-01_07:06:22", "killed": false, "user_key": "f2018ca51e8e93d3a6d5992e74a1ee72", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669334": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Please, please don't pretend to know anything about .NET or development in general. Version 3.0 of .NET is not a major upgrade, there are some minor changes to C#, new and updated APIs and some minor Tech added. In fact the version number was chosen simply to make it fit better with Vista!<br><br><br>WIth this mouse shit you've gone way to far.<br><br>Let me assert for the record that every Mac designed in the past 5 years will have a mouse that has right click! Added to that every notebook for the last 4 years accept a two finger click on the track-pad as a right click. Even if you don't have a new Mac you can hold down control and click.<br><br>RIGHT CLICK is built into the OS. It's been built in since the NeXT OS, the OS that became OS X. Also note that you can use right click for a lot of things, but it's an option.<br><br>The guy in the middle there doesn't any of this. It was at this point that the discussion became a joke. It was reasonably creditable before any of the mouse talk.<br><br>I'm not trying to knock you, great show, but you have your facts wrong in so many areas.<br><br>Best wishes,<br><br>Mark.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-30_16:17:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "1a3e23206bcaf74fc22e64d6185f469f", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669335": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Good show but it has to be said that you guys aren't nearly as informed as you think you are. It's obvious that you know next to nothing about the inner workings of either OS, even though you claim to be techies.<br><br>Case in point: Unix has better file systems than the Mac... I'm sorry but some of this stuff is just silly. OS X is Unix. And, Leopard will ship with support for the most advanced file system on the planet: ZFS.<br><br>Windows is also a terrible idea for servers, this is why Unix runs the internet, not Windows server. I am a Mac user, but I work with Windows all day as a developer.<br><br>It's amazingly easy to sit on a couch and talk your ass off about what you think will come. CAN YOU TRY AND STICK TO FACTS.<br><br>Thanks, Take care,<br><br>Mark.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-30_15:25:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "1a3e23206bcaf74fc22e64d6185f469f", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669336": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "At least they have common ground in that neither one can be released on time. They're locked in a heated icon battle at <a href=\"http://buzzdroid.com/icon-battle/icon-battle-vista-vs-os-x-leopard/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://buzzdroid.com/icon-battle/icon-battle-vi...</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-13_09:12:22", "killed": false, "user_key": "93aac5757adff181b63fecbfadc9f97c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669337": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The paradigm of Mac, at least from the layperson, appears to be Graphic Artist focused.  I think there would be less resistance from hardcore PC geeks, especially programmers, if Mac were to put some dollars into marketing and developing a stronger developer community.  Sure it exists, but even Mac pokes fun of the developers in their commercials [insert commercial about c++ programmers bible here].  I don't think companies even put Macs on the list in consideration for application development platforms.  Java = windows/linux... well that is pretty much the two choices for all languages.  Variety is good, so more power to Mac to try.  I suppose they didn't revitalize themselves touting Java support and development platforms so they just focus on what works, but I truly do feel that there is a larger demographic that they are missing out on who are especially prone to be evangelists towards one OS... programmers and especially those younger basement dwelling coding trolls and college kids that are the future of software development.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-03-23_17:33:34", "killed": false, "user_key": "9c9a415f9091822ff8e52aa7150da9f7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669338": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Looks like a Windows masturbation session. All giddy that they\u2019ve finally caught up\u2026 so catchng up = better\u2026.. because that is what they use.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-03-20_11:06:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "549bafd5a17f30d6e92f6d34c715eb53", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669339": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "windows is the best<br>the most practical, and with vista's launch the best looking os.<br><br>mac sucks. just looks good but otherwise sucks", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-03-05_07:42:20", "killed": false, "user_key": "61d82bb0cb1d8b62e8d7a185a7adbae5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669340": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I think Vista sucks just like everything else WinDOZE!<br><br>Apple will bury MSFT ...in time.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-22_19:40:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "05170161e8314886b33ac65076cd8b61", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669341": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I am a Mac user since 1985. Back then I bought a Mac because it offered a graphic environment and ease of use with peripherals (then mostly a printer). I have always stated I might switch to another OS if it offered me advantages. Which is what I am expecting from a comparison and not really getting.<br>Everything I own now is geared towards the Mac. So Vista ought to be really better to make a switch worthwhile.<br>Apart from that, the monopolistic power of Microsoft is not something I relish.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-20_06:51:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "773ab5f76ac9b9d13f25d7039b27f117", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669342": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "There's only ONE reason any person could argue in favor of windows over mac and that is they've never spent a week with a mac.<br>Longer life span.<br>no virusses.<br>no Delays.<br>no 'drivers'<br>no 'uninstallers'<br>no 'system registry'.<br>better graphics, better media, Always ahead of Windows.<br>FASTER than ANY windows pc.<br>No ''New Hardware Wizard\".<br>Fast, easy, elegant, ergonomic, friendly, quick, CLEAN, uncluttered, longer-lasting, no trips to the 'computer repair shop'.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-15_14:31:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "1d8d3025944a1ce77d81316a052022da", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669343": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I was excited when Vista was launched.  My university had a PC in their IT office with Vista Business.  I checked it out right before break and loved it.  It is a welcome break from that all to familiar grey start button and outdated menu layout!  I was psyched!<br><br>I used Linux for a while, and even used Mac OS X.  I had a PC laptop that I bought a few months ago (I know, I had to have both OS's).  I bought Vista Home Premuim Academic today, and just now had enough time for the upgrade.  I think I'll stay up all night and play with it.  It's good to be back...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-02_22:23:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "3e2f0d460984bcdb6c889fda78cc5835", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669344": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Great discussion. Also reveals the different types of users using the two systems. Mac to me makes so much more sense in comparison to Windows. I login every day at the office with ctrl + alt + delete which offsets windows take on how to use computers.....<br><br>excuse my englisch,<br><br>stefan, switzerland", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-12_17:18:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "6d3a5f29611176aed756bf7cca5c4554", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669345": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I don't see a lot of \".NET\" applications sans such dependencies coming out of Microsoft.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-02_14:12:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "422187df3c45655b0dc2ae5de0710b27", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669346": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "What's so beautiful about Apple's OS?  I beg you to enlighten me.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-10_17:19:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "d6eb8469d82e512808019f3c23f83ac0", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669347": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "These guys are uninformed about mac in general.<br>The right-click debate was asinine. EVERY thing in mac has a right-click enabled. BUT you don't NEED to because it's designed to not cripple you.<br>Less is more.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-10_14:05:41", "killed": false, "user_key": "61e2c054559da82ee780ca2b4bc6b3a5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669348": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "It's not really a dirty secret as much as its the developer's conscious/unconscious decision to make dependencies beyond .NET.<br><br>There's actually a whole MSDN article on the topic of \"pure\" .NET.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-02_00:25:14", "killed": false, "user_key": "60e2e20c87f61f274fdc2047ee431404", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669349": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "You want .Net on a Mac, there's Mono. Open source, well planned, well - executed.<br><br>Of course, the dirty secret about .Net is a lot of .Net applications aren't \"pure\" .Net.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_23:20:20", "killed": false, "user_key": "422187df3c45655b0dc2ae5de0710b27", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669350": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"UAC dlg runs in a separate desktop that no other app has access to.<br>That\u2019s so that malware (spyware, keyloggers, etc) can\u2019t snoop your password. And also makes it harder for malware to spoof the UAC dlg.<br><br>Mac malware ( if it existed) can spoof authentication dlgs and snoop anthentcation credentials that are entered by teh user.\" - luke.<br><br>Luke, Vista's UAC does this at the expense of the user's productivity and concentration. Besides which, WHAT Mac Malware? You can't justify something when the negative doesn't exist, mate.<br><br>\"I find that ad series quite insulting, implying that people who use PCs are ignorant polyester-suited nerds, and Mac users are cool, hip and more intelligent.\" - Andrew.<br><br>Andrew, didn't you see the Office 2003 ads by Microsoft? They implied that you were stupid old dinosaurs unless you upgraded...Tim (#75), spot on- the ads are light entertainment highlighting real facts. I always have a good laugh at these ads and look forward to more! They're much better than lame pictures of dinosaur office workers being 'prehistoric' for using Office XP (a perfectly-fine version of Office, I might add)- talk about shooting yourself in the foot with your own ads criticising your own software!<br><br>\u201cSEE! WE\u2019RE PROTECTING YOU! BY LOCKING YOU OUT OF YOUR COMPUTER! WE PROTECT YOU\u201d -John.<br><br>Made me spill my Coke with laughter! Thanks for your comments John- saved me typing them, and kept this inane and subjetively useless debate in order.<br><br>Robert, whilst your passion is laudable, your scientific nature is benign- your 'facts' leave us scratching our heads, forced to take you at word....sorry, but it doesn't work like that in the real world- you might fool your Mother with those sweeping comments, but nobody else :)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_15:49:48", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c3551ece17cd664b348db79c10023b5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669351": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "loved the videos.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_13:06:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "08ae50455ba00a1e879ec32a7897a339", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669352": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Vista = Mac OS X circa 2003", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_14:53:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "4a046e315f227350c59a4cfc8babe50c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669353": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "These videos are terrible and here's why: this ISN'T an intelligent debate about Windows vs. OSX or Microsoft vs. Apple.  About 20 minutes of these two hours are geniunely on topic and geniunely on target.  At least half of the time is a tangent.  The other half is so poorly articulated or generalized or just plain wrong.  I mean, did they really just discuss the two-button mouse issue in 2007?   Apple's context menu support is completely rich across the OS and applications and all desktops ship with two mice.  Macbooks provide context clicking through keeping two fingers on the trackpad which not only enables a larger target, but allow for those whoe are confused but the second button to opt out.<br><br>Anyway, no offense to the mac usergroup guy but he was so totally incapable of articulating the Apple argument it was pathetic.  He just looked like the classic mac dweeb whining about how it \"feels\" while everyone talked about Vista's graphics layer like it's wild new tech.  COME ON.  Quartz hit the scene with OSX 10.0 in 2001.  Quartz Extreme and Core Image delivered full GPU acceleration years ago and they do so without hobbling the UI on non-compliant graphics cards.  OSX has expose, dropshadows and translucency on a 400mhz G4 cube.<br><br>I offer scoble a rematch.  I bet I could do way better on the partisan mac side than this jumbled mess.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_12:26:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "3f6817c1c7c724b3a4a5e7de367f600c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669354": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@68<br><br>Andrew, I asked my wife (a non-technical, Windows-only user) what she thought of the ads last night. Her response:<br><br>\"It seems to emphasize ease of use for the Mac, that while the PC is fine for business stuff, the Mac is more accessible for the average Joe.\"<br><br>I strongly suspect that Apple has done a bit of market research, and discovered that the techie types who are annoyed/offended by the ads would never have considered a Mac to begin with (coincidentally, probably more likely to know John Hodgeman). The non-techie seems to not get annoyed at the ads at all, and finds them funny and entertaining.<br><br>Based on the percentage of technie to non-techie (as some have suggested, possibly parallel to the percentage of manual transmissions shipped in new cars today), maybe the Apple marketing people not such morons after all. - Tim", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_10:29:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "a983a252753ca5ff141589fcd2b280d0", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669355": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@53. \"Based on what I see in airports, a HUGE part of the world is still running Windows 98, Windows 2000, or unpatched XP systems.\"<br><br>Good grief, Scoble. Your proof points get more and more ridiculous.  So, lemme see if I understand your thesis here.  You see random people at random airports running older versions of Windows (BTW, how can you tell, just by looking, that someone is running an unpatched version of XP?) and from that you conclude that the majority of incidents of malware are coming from these types of people?  What might help to bolster your theory is quoting actual usage numbers of those OS's, rather than your random observations. Or do you not subscribe to a blog that reports that type of data? I'm guessing that's your problem here.<br><br>Seriously, is your sole source of information and research based on random people you see and reading the first three lines of blog posts that are basically random opinions from other people?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_11:45:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "26493d7270fb206c1e08599674e51e5a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669356": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>Or is it just that Apple doesn\u2019t have any response in place to .NET? (I\u2019m still not sure what the official designation is.)</i><br><br>Yes, I believe several senior engineers in Cupertino yawned. I'm not sure if it was the official response, but it seemed appropriate. - Tim<br><br>P.S. Yes, I'm aware of the prevalence of .NET support in the Windows programming world. I deal with it (as a developer) every day. The best I can say is that it's marginally better than \"DLL Hell.\" But hey... it's from MS, so it's either \"popular\" or \"common\" (depending on which definition that you use).", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_10:22:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "a983a252753ca5ff141589fcd2b280d0", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669357": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "One thing I didn't hear the discussion comment on is Apple's cheesy advertising for PC vs Mac.<br><br>I find that ad series quite insulting, implying that people who use PCs are ignorant polyester-suited nerds, and Mac users are cool, hip and more intelligent.<br><br>That itself aggravates me more than a computer crash, and I suspect many other people feel it too.  Especially since I spent 18 months with a crashing Ibook that Apple refused to accept was faulty.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_06:52:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "ce18f10996dec80ef787c434538d948d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669358": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Robert, maybe you should have had more competent people running your Macs. We had Quark 4, Office, etc, never had any more crashing problems than any of the 98/NT 4 boxes. Now the reliability kings at the time were our Solaris workstations, but that was a different architecture and usage pattern entirely.<br><br>The point you're missing is that *any* OS is stable if properly cared for. Considering how you got your \"Scobleizer\" nickname, I'm not seeing you as being into the whole \"Properly cared for\" thing.<br><br><i>You use one random example of people lined up at some randoms store in Phoenix as an example of Windows popularity???? I\u2019m guessing polling and surveying and statistics in not in your background?</i><br><br>Layz, it's Robert. We all know that fact-checking and the like are not going to happen here. It's what he does, or rather doesn't do. I resisted the temptation to point out the lines at the Macworld keynote and use the comparative sizes in anything, because while fun, it would be kind of dumb.<br><br><i>UAC dlg runs in a separate desktop that no other app has access to.<br>That\u2019s so that malware (spyware, keyloggers, etc) can\u2019t snoop your password. And also makes it harder for malware to spoof the UAC dlg.</i><br><br>Funny how every other OS can manage to deal with this issue in a way that doesn't hose the user. It's only Microsoft that has to make security as maddeningly infuriating as humanly possible. Of course, that way, they can say \"SEE! WE'RE PROTECTING YOU! BY LOCKING YOU OUT OF YOUR COMPUTER! WE PROTECT YOU\"<br><br><i>Mac malware ( if it existed) can spoof authentication dlgs and snoop anthentcation credentials that are entered by teh user.</i><br><br>Dude, spoofing a dialog that blanks out your screen ain't impossible on Winders either, so you have no point there. You have, of course, verifiable proof that one can snoop the authentication dialogs on the current version of Mac OS X, and that it is of course, impossible to do the same on Vista?<br><br>If so, links?<br><br><i>John C. Welch, do you ever shut up?</i><br><br>But Luke, if I did, you'd have a normal happy life. Where's the fun in that for me?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_07:22:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "422187df3c45655b0dc2ae5de0710b27", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669359": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Great blog. I'm impressed with each turn.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_08:34:41", "killed": false, "user_key": "62abdeb176ea9f5dba7fb91eae05d830", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669360": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "i 've put vista on my macbook pro, and it looks nice and shiny. see pics: <a href=\"http://stuffonwalls.wordpress.com/2007/01/30/vista-on-mac/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://stuffonwalls.wordpress.com/2007/01/30/vi...</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_09:18:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "e2dbf091c51af4af3c41ad292d1d139c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669361": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Vista is for people that know nothing about technology or quality. Quite often it's the same type of people that settle in life. Not much of success either.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_09:28:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "1c708fecced3d14c6c056e17d37d187e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669362": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@ 71.. LMAO.. that's FUNNY.. LOL", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_09:35:20", "killed": false, "user_key": "d351edb802e42ab8e2ba947a0fb0b28e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669364": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"However, Mac OS X doesn\u2019t blank out the rest of your screen. You\u2019re free to work on anything else you want, and shove the dialog out of the way until you feel like dealing with it. Vista doesn\u2019t. \"<br><br>UAC dlg runs in a separate desktop that no other app has access to.<br>That's so that malware (spyware, keyloggers, etc) can't snoop your password.  And also makes it harder for malware to spoof the UAC dlg.<br><br>Mac malware ( if it existed) can spoof authentication dlgs and snoop anthentcation credentials that are entered by teh user.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_04:52:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "e1a7b84af76657827fd52de486833721", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669365": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "John C. Welch, do you ever shut up?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_04:54:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "e1a7b84af76657827fd52de486833721", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669366": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "boring boring boring. I've worked on windows for years.<br>And I mean worked on windows. Getting it to work. patching and second editioning, and fixing, and dicking around.<br><br>Bought an Imac about a month ago, and you know what. I work on something other than the operating system these days. Like actual work. And popular? I've never once in my life heard anyone rave positive about windows. Never. Bitch certainly. But I've enjoyed my work since I got that mac. Entirely subjective I know, but there ya go. Thanks y'all.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_02:33:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "6e8fec83549d323c8b1080d9f6130170", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669367": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "go on <a href=\"http://con1.wordpress.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">con1.wordpress.com</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_03:37:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "3f6aa2ae6d105a6f52a3ab1ba22a0668", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669368": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "yawn im tired", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_03:38:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3f6aa2ae6d105a6f52a3ab1ba22a0668", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669369": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@18  You use one random example of people lined up at some randoms store in Phoenix as an example of Windows popularity????  I'm guessing polling and surveying and statistics in not in your background?  Have any other compelling data point of Windows \"popularity\"", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-02-01_01:10:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "26493d7270fb206c1e08599674e51e5a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669370": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I think the discussion was not all that informative from what I watched. Since I'm over 50 and have been using computers since the punch card era, and bought an IBM PC in 1981 and a Mac in 1988 and use both daily, I've seen enough to know two things. First, it's much more informative to get some Mac heads together to criticize the Mac OS and Window heads together to critique the Windows platform and maybe discuss their mutual preferences and disklikes in a constructive manner, than having any kind of OS A expert critique OS B and vice versa. Second, the OS war, as it's been termed, is gradually declining in significance as the playing field grows away from PCs in general and enlarges to encompass many other kinds of appliances. It's more instructive to discuss Apple and Microsoft as players in the future through their impact in various appliances than whether their current computer operating systems hold any significant advantage, since they (the operating systems themselves) are basically fighting for a smaller and smaller piece of the technology fabric.<br><br>If anything, Microsoft should also consider a name change, as Apple did. Their name isn't 'cool' anymore, and the future of technology almost renders their name construct obsolete. A fruit makes more sense, ironically.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_23:35:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "b2b205b2146c0c8235d34f70fb6fb20c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669371": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I am a system builder. I build custom PC's for people and service them.<br>I sat in the live cast meeting about Vista and upset that I as a<br>reseller of Windows software are not getting incentives, but costly<br>material at my expense to promote Vista.<br><br>I realize that they want to narrow the gap. Where only major sellers of<br>PC's (Such as HP. Dell, and Gateway..) keep creating the \"Throw away<br>PC's\" and avoid patents and universal PC standards to reduce the<br>options for customers to just replace parts to maintain their PC's.<br>They are planning to help them \"Macify\" the PC market. Removing<br>generics such as Elitegroup, PCChips.. you know them. They sell<br>frequently on sites like Tiger direct etc.<br><br>Distributors like ASI, DHL, &amp; many more rely on the PC enthusiasts,<br>system builders, and small IT professionals to use their parts for<br>system upgrades, and main board replacements.<br><br>With the new Vista licensing, this effects large companies who purchase<br>part replacements to maintain systems, expecting to keep them running<br>for 5 years. IT now will have purchase completes with Licenses, in<br>order to use new volume licenses, which they purchased in the first<br>place to REDUCE unnecessary costs. This increases costs for the<br>customer. Also, with the limited branding of Vista, computer<br>enthusiasts, and game fanatics who just upgrade their computers on a<br>frequent basis, may consider buying cheaper PC's since they may in 1<br>year replace their motherboard and processor twice a year to handle the<br>latest PC titles.<br><br>This increases the sales of more affordable PC's, with copies of Windows<br>Vista, but it is going to cause a backlash.<br><br>I have already joined the Ohio Ubuntu Linux chapter as of 4 days ago,<br>and plan on not re-registering my partnership with Microsoft because of<br>this. I will be able to compete still with Dell and HP with affordable<br>desktops with Ubuntu, which will soon support by April all major chip<br>sets and printers. Since many of my customers who buy PC's are not<br>power users, the desktop environment and \"ease of use\" will draw<br>customers. I would able to sell a PC with a fully operational office<br>suite and educational packages for the cost of under $500. plus for<br>only $50.00 add Cedega, which supports many Gaming platforms, or even<br>wine, which now supports many static windows applications.<br><br>I will still have customers coming in for support, as they might need<br>assistance to use printers and cameras with their new systems, and<br>since I know about looking at system logs in Linux, I will be able to<br>diagnose minor (but soon to be ) hardware failures.<br><br>This is going to be an interesting year. Smaller computer stores are<br>going to have to compete with larger computer manufactures, and generic<br>brands and Distributors are going to support this effort. Since now even<br>states like Indiana has made a demand to put their schools on all Linux<br>platforms, this is going to be also a new thing occurring here in Ohio.<br>The chapter here has already made headway. You can review the meeting<br>notes at <a href=\"http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/node/2\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/node/2</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_23:34:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "d17e01d86f45cda3aa3522019e075171", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669372": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Spot on Brian. Give me transcripts every time.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_23:07:35", "killed": false, "user_key": "a3eb0e4cfa862ab40f23aa19b5b25e2e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669373": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Looks like a Windows masturbation session. All giddy that they've finally caught up... so catchng up = better..... because that is what they use.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_18:04:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "4a046e315f227350c59a4cfc8babe50c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669374": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Rich: we already have iTunes video podcasts. Just visit <a href=\"http://www.scobleshow.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.scobleshow.com</a>. All my shows are downloadable too (the quality is better if you do that).", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_18:06:24", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669375": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "DWalla: are we watching the same video? The ones linked here seemed more like a Mac masturbation session.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_18:08:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669376": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Robert, I don't give much credit to an argument that compares restarts to loss of hardware and files. But I am going to rest my case: Macs, no viruses, malware, etc. Microsoft, a long history of wreck and ruin. Sure it might be better today. Maybe. But as a professional and pro, I'd feel bound to advise plain folks to pick the safer way.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_21:51:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "f5d66e57c22d9a9f433d04acb3d0c700", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669377": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Did you remember us, the deaf and hard of hearing viewers since you had invitited us to listen the debates. We can't understand you without having a closed captioned, opened captioned (subtitles).<br><br>Disappointed Deaf Viewers", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_16:56:34", "killed": false, "user_key": "8c417424262b9981eaa1136346cd4643", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669378": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "In defense of Harry McCracken, not only is he a really good guy, but he knows both Vista and the Mac -- Vista because he's the editor of PC World, for Pete's sake, but the Mac because he is a longtime Mac user as well. He's got a MacBook now, but before the Intel Mac days he had a 12-inch PowerBook. That sort of perspective is especially useful when it comes to talking about this stuff.<br><br>I can explain the Mac perspective, sure, but I've yet to even touch a copy of Windows Vista. (Although I'll be buying one soon and installing it on my copy of Parallels.)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_17:45:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "98aa6f376bc7bc09675b03c80905a553", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669379": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Worthless exercise since Leopard rolls out in a couple of months.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_18:01:54", "killed": false, "user_key": "4a046e315f227350c59a4cfc8babe50c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669380": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "You should have these as video podcasts, accessible from iTunes. It's just too damn long to watch from here.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_17:54:35", "killed": false, "user_key": "57decd9b3e5ae989abeb1885fa57acf4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669381": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i> Even so, a huge percentage of the new Apple laptops have this rebooting/overheating/noisy fan problem and considering the controlled nature of the Apple ecosystem this is totally unacceptable.</i><br><br>You have an actual verified/verifiable number on that? Since it's \"huge\" that is.<br><br><i>What I didn\u2019t hear from any of you was some sense of consumer backbone that says: We won\u2019t accept these lock-in technologies as \u201cgood-enough\u201d any more. </i><br><br>You going to give us details on your 100% open source, open format, non-proprietare software AND hardware setup?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_15:59:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "422187df3c45655b0dc2ae5de0710b27", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669382": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "scoble,<br><br>I wish your videos had transcripts. Scanning text is a lot less tedious than waiting through a video :)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_20:53:26", "killed": false, "user_key": "1efe17fdbe3f4c0b1237606388ed1a0c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669383": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"Don\u2019t do it as WMV OR QuickTime. For the love of dog, use MPEG-4. Everyone can view it. It\u2019s universal, and while not as pretty as h.264, it\u2019s not as hardware intensive either.\"<br><br>Thank you. It's mind-blowing that a mere commenter has more common sense than most of these self-proclaimed new media mavens.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_15:34:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "7ebfc1ce7d88297a4bf1d4836487f250", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669384": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "A few observations...<br><br>Interesting to see the confusion over Apple reliability vs Windows.   OS X has had a tremendous impact on the perception.  Windows has become more reliable too.   If Apple were still running the old OS 9 and previous based code they would be totally irrelevant now.<br><br>Even so, a huge percentage of the new Apple laptops have this rebooting/overheating/noisy fan problem and considering the controlled nature of the Apple ecosystem this is totally unacceptable.<br><br>The notion that people buying Apple laptops to run Windows one hundred percent of the time CAN'T be good for Apple in the long run.  At some point (probably the next laptop purchase) such a user figures out they can get everything they need for half the price.<br><br>Is there something about being the center guy on a couch that keeps one from having anything to say?   Or is it just that Apple doesn't have any response in place to .NET?  (I'm still not sure what the official designation is.)  For Linux, there is a .NET equivalent coming along, but I'm not sure if there is anything for OS X.  In spite of Microsoft's willingness to share the .NET specs with standards groups this looks like yet another attempt to embrace and extinguish the Internet by flooding the market with .NET shareware that will only work if you have a Windows machine.  I think hypoglycemia had set in when you all seemed to agree that commercial Internet sites would be assuming enough people are running Vista in early 2008 (as the guy on the left said).  The uptake of Vista, via new PC purchases or otherwise won't move nearly that fast, and I don't think even Microsoft is predicting such a thing.  But still .NET CAN represent a future threat to anyone not running Windows.<br><br>Apple came up with Widgets for the desktop, made them easier to write and they were a big hit for a while.   But I find them too disruptive and hardly use mine any more.   Windows came up with Gadgets, and supposedly with .NET in Vista they will be even easier to code.  But of course BOTH of these companies are trying to lock people in to what they are doing rather than let the Widgets or Gadgets stand on their own.  Leave it to Open Source to develop desktop utilities that will work on everyone machine, be yet again easier to code.  And it will happen.<br><br>As the guy on the left said at the end, paraphrasing: \"I don't want to be dependent on what Apple comes out with when I go to configure my next PC purchase\".  And as you said Scoble, competition between these two companies benefits all of us users.<br><br>What I didn't hear from any of you was some sense of consumer backbone that says:  We won't accept these lock-in technologies as \"good-enough\" any more.  If the thought-leaders in our industry won't speak out against these unethical practices then who will?   What will benefit consumers the most is not just these two companies competing but dozens of such companies.  That is why the Web is so exciting right now.  Google may be big, but they don't take every new product announcement as an opportunity to cut off competition.  I'm fed up with companies that do, and I hope more of you pundits will take that attitude too.  Do it for the users.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_15:48:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "macbeach", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669385": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "You mean as well as cars made from off the shelf parts and TV's made from off the shelf parts? I hear those are soooo popular. Not.<br><br>I'm sure BMW would have problems of microsofts proportions if they had to support Kia, Hyundai, Daiwoo, Mercedes, Nissan, GM, whathaveyou engines in their cars.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_14:50:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "f158557c9f34ca23be11b9ca1403a547", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669386": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>The dialog box? Everytime I try to install something on my new Mac it asks for my user name and password too.</i><br><br>However, Mac OS X doesn't blank out the rest of your screen. You're free to work on anything else you want, and shove the dialog out of the way until you feel like dealing with it. Vista doesn't. Instead, it shuts down everything but that box. Bad UI, no doughnut.<br><br><i>But the problem it is trying to solve has nothing to do with the registry and everything to do with the fact that Windows used to let you run in administrator mode by default.</i><br><br>Barraging you with a continual stream of dialogs for things that have no business needing approval is EXACTLY like how Microsoft deals with the registry. Instead of making the Registry easily fixed, and not the appendix of system settings it is, they just keep making more copies of it, so you have a better chance of being able to restore things.<br><br>Administrator mode wasn't the problem. The problem was that with Windows, Administrator mode is EXACTLY the same as the Unix \"root\" account, instead of something in between. Even worse, pre-sp2, Windows never even asked you for a password FOR this root account.<br><br>When you hammer people with dialogs, the reaction becomes, \"dear god, shut that shit off\".<br><br><i>In Windows Vista you can\u2019t run in administrator mode. That alone is a HUGE advance for Windows security.</i><br><br>Until UAC gets gutted so non-admins can perform normal tasks without having to call the IT people at all hours from remote locations. Then it's kind of screwed. Bothering people more != Better security.<br><br><i>Should I remind you that a 1999 Mac crashed far far more often than today too? So, should I be able to stick Apple\u2019s old reputation onto it?</i><br><br>By the random pill colors you call logic, I had Pre-Mac OS X macs with two year uptimes, so therefore, you're wrong.<br><br>As well, SP 2 only protects *somewhat* better against random remote access. Doesn't do shit about spyware and all its effects, and I am talking about COMPLETELY up to date SP2 installs.<br><br>You're not an IT person Robert, stop acting like you have a friggin' clue.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_20:46:22", "killed": false, "user_key": "422187df3c45655b0dc2ae5de0710b27", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669387": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Steve: how many of those machines are running Windows XP Service Pack 2?<br><br>Based on what I see in airports, a HUGE part of the world is still running Windows 98, Windows 2000, or unpatched XP systems.<br><br>If you keep your security up to date and keep your OS up to date you see far far far far fewer problems than what you're reporting.<br><br>Should I remind you that a 1999 Mac crashed far far more often than today too? So, should I be able to stick Apple's old reputation onto it?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_19:41:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669388": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>John: you obviously didn\u2019t listen to the two hours of tape. If you had, you wouldn\u2019t be asking for more representation of the Mac side of the fence. It was Windows Vista day and even Harry McCracken admitted he uses a Mac.</i><br><br>No Robert, oddly enough, after the first five minutes, listening to the rest of it would have made me slit my wrists. Since that would have adversely affected my wedding, I stopped listening.<br><br>As well, Harry McCraken \"admitting\" he uses a Mac is not the same thing as having the EIC of an actual Mac - focused publication on. Everyone knows Wired, PC World, and to a lesser extent Sling. But outside of the local MUG community, no one knows who the hell Sam Levin is, so regardless of your <i>intent</i>, you gave the appearance of stacking the deck.<br><br><i>But, yeah, it would be fun to have a conversation with the ones you recommended too. I hear Apple has something new coming out soon, so that\u2019ll be an opportunity to pull out more Mac-oriented people there too.</i><br><br>At this point, pardon my lack of belief that you're going to actually do anything differently.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_13:40:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "422187df3c45655b0dc2ae5de0710b27", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669389": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "&gt;By the random pill colors you call logic, I had Pre-Mac OS X macs with two year uptimes, so therefore, you\u2019re wrong.<br><br>Not that ran Quark XPress or Adobe Pagemaker.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_23:21:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669390": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "All things considered, it would be an interesting comparison if OSX were running as well on a system made with off the shelf parts.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_14:16:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "e3e8113eb517cc85b91e48ff8a004d04", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669391": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "&gt;Turns out that viruses aren\u2019t as common as you might expect anymore on Windows side of the fence...<br><br>Really, Robert? I just heard on a twit program today, from Leo Laporte, that maybe 150 million computers have been coopted by malware to spew spam etc. Robert Heron thought the figure was much higher. And they are ALL running the MS OS.<br><br>Please remember, I am talking about plain joes at home, just trying to run simple software, read email, browse the web. And not have their pc destroyed with all its documents, as happened to a friend of mine last year. He now runs one computer online and one off. How crazy is that?<br><br>I blame the poor advice we get. Apparently from you for one. Sorry. And from lots of other genuine experts, who are simply out of touch with \"homeys.\"", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_19:35:41", "killed": false, "user_key": "f5d66e57c22d9a9f433d04acb3d0c700", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669392": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Yes, it is a very valid point, but is hanging in my priority list waiting for more employees/resources along with making shorter videos (hiring more editors, etc), two cameras with camera people, better microphones and an audio guy so people can hear, etc. It's definitely on my list to get to.<br><br>The dialog box? Everytime I try to install something on my new Mac it asks for my user name and password too.<br><br>But the problem it is trying to solve has nothing to do with the registry and everything to do with the fact that Windows used to let you run in administrator mode by default.<br><br>In Windows Vista you can't run in administrator mode. That alone is a HUGE advance for Windows security.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_19:02:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669393": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "&gt;I have run Macs at home since 1985 without once having that issue.<br><br>I had one virus using Windows and that was back at Fawcette Technical Publications back in the 1990s. Turns out that viruses aren't as common as you might expect anymore on Windows side of the fence (and Vista has far far far better security). And I'm on the Internet every single minute of every single day.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_18:40:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669394": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "refreshing to see that this level of gaping ignorance can still be found....", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_13:01:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "c36662a0fbc009e9deb09eb449d2ea3a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669396": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "comment was re: T. Maschas", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_13:03:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "c36662a0fbc009e9deb09eb449d2ea3a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669397": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "John: you obviously didn't listen to the two hours of tape. If you had, you wouldn't be asking for more representation of the Mac side of the fence. It was Windows Vista day and even Harry McCracken admitted he uses a Mac.<br><br>But, yeah, it would be fun to have a conversation with the ones you recommended too. I hear Apple has something new coming out soon, so that'll be an opportunity to pull out more Mac-oriented people there too.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_13:04:01", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669398": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "My latest videos are already available as MP4 download. Just visit <a href=\"http://www.scobleshow.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.scobleshow.com</a> and look for the icons to download.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_13:13:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669399": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Robert, you are also equating common with popular. Yes Windows is common all around the world but far, far fewer people LIKE it.<br><br>Here are some articles that would seem to suggest people have not been trampled in the rush (for Vista).<br><br><a href=\"http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070130/microsoft_vista_launch.html?.v=25\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070130/microsoft_vista_...</a><br><a href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/technology/AP-Microsoft-Vista-Launch.html?_r=2&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/technology/AP-M...</a><br><a href=\"http://news.com.com/Vistas+actual+launch+Think+whisper%252C+not+bang/2100-1016_3-6154473.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://news.com.com/Vistas+actual+launch+Think+...</a><br><br>Compare the above to the Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger launch see <a href=\"http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0%2C2125%2C67398%2C00.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,67398,00.html</a> which says \"On Friday, April 29, more than 1,000 people queued up for the Tiger launch in both the Tokyo and London Apple stores\". Remember there are are far fewer Mac users than Windows, and yet the queues were over ten times as long as the [allegedly] long queue in Phoenix you referred to. THAT'S being popular (if not common).<br><br>Note to Robert, while you may deduce I am a Mac user I do also run Microsoft Media Center 2005 on one of my own computers and have used Windows since 3.0. As a Mac user I would willing agree MCE 2005 is currently superior to Front Row and Apple TV, however the DRM in Vista Media Center is so user hostile I have been put off upgrading to it (not to mention - ok I will mention the fact it costs twice as much here in the UK).", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_13:23:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "8f9d48d85f2ad8543f9154219e2f6184", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669400": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Um...no, Windows malware is just as common as ever, and the latest \"Storm\" outbreak is yet another example.<br><br>As well, Vista's \"Security by annoying the shit out of you and locking you out of your system until you deal with a dialog box\" isn't <i>security</i>, it's just their solution to the Registry problem applied to Security.<br><br><i>Did you remember us, the deaf and hard of hearing viewers since you had invitited us to listen the debates. We can\u2019t understand you without having a closed captioned, opened captioned (subtitles).<br><br>Disappointed Deaf Viewers</i><br><br>It's a valid point Robert, regardless of how much work it is. Or is your brave new HD world only for those who can hear and see.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_18:47:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "422187df3c45655b0dc2ae5de0710b27", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669401": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I'm watching the first video, and viewing a bunch of tired old tribal wisdom. Geez, Apple is a freakin' hardware company; they lose totally if they support OSX on PCs. Also, the entire DRM jive....that users are locked into Apple's propietary DRM...is even worse with Microsoft. At least, the Apple ecosystem is more user friendly and seamless.<br><br>Something else worth considering that is a huge differentiator between Windows and Mac systems: I can easily create a bootable exact clone of my OSX system to external firewire drive and take that firewire drive, connect it to almost any other current Mac and boot it up. I can't do that with my XP systems...a big downer!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_19:10:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "829d47cb6881af2a37a60502edb2b05c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669402": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Yeah, Microsoft won, that's why Ballmer craps his drawers when you say \"Linux\" and has to threaten to sue Linux users to keep his lead.<br><br>I'm sure IBM thought they had won circa 1981 or so.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_12:48:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "422187df3c45655b0dc2ae5de0710b27", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669403": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Robert, thanks for the reply. And for the video. I look forward to an apples to windows comparison between vista and leopard.<br><br>Here's a question: MS admittedly has won the corporate OS war; it's hard to come by a PC that doesn't have its OS preloaded. So that's it. Fine. Game over.<br><br>On the other hand, I have friends, regular blokes, not geeks, who have suffered miserably at the hands of MS, simply because of viruses on their computers at home. It must be the number 1 problem that computer users face. My experience? I have run Macs at home since 1985 without once having that issue. That's going on twenty years! The only viruses I have EVER encountered happened at work, where they ran an MS network.<br><br>So, here's the question: If someone asked for a recommendation on a regular (read, write) home computer, how can anyone push MS in good conscience? And in this same good conscience, how could anyone NOT mention the, relatively speaking, spectacular security of the Apple OS X?<br><br>And yet I heard and didn't hear just that on this video. And I hear and don't hear it ALL the time from experts. Come on, guys! Even if we wanted and hoped and believed that Vista will be much, much better on security issues, doesn't that remain to be demonstrated?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_18:28:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "f5d66e57c22d9a9f433d04acb3d0c700", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669404": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "John: I totally disagree. Windows is popular all over the world. Just because YOU don't like it doesn't make it not popular. Here's a picture of hundreds of people waiting in line to buy Windows Vista: <a href=\"http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/WindowsNow-RobertMcLaws/%7E3/84378300/phoenix-launch-wrap-up.aspx\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/WindowsNow-Rober...</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_11:32:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669405": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I will be interested in seeing another conversation once Leopard is out, so that we can hear about the newest features and distinctions, rather than ancient history. Get Dan Dilger (Roughly Drafted); he would be a more elequent and insightful advocate from the Mac side. The Vista guys were doing just fine.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_11:36:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "f5d66e57c22d9a9f433d04acb3d0c700", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669406": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Steve: I'd love to do another dinner when Leopard comes out.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_11:38:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669407": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I did like Gates squirming in his chair when asked whether he was going for an OS X look with Vista. Very amusing.<br><br>Vista is the first with parental controls? I think Bill needs to go in to Accounts in OS X and have a look there. There's a tab called \"Parental Controls\".<br><br><a href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQmOmdYPKJQ&amp;eurl=\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQmOmdYPKJQ&amp;...</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_18:24:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "df679bd3d287a21d5ed6020bae384e17", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669408": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I don't doubt that Harry knows his stuff, considering his career. However, <i>impression</i> counts, as Robert should well know by now, considering how he's railed about it with regard to Microsoft in the past.<br><br>When you see EIC of PC World, Wired Magazine, (best known in the Mac community for Leander Kahney's ongoing \"Cult of Mac\" series, and trust me, it ain't makin' him friends. Truth be told, there's a ton of Mac folks that refuse to talk to him after seeing how he angles everything he publishes.), the former sling guy, who point blank favors Windows, and the guy who founded the Stanford MUG, and Robert who, regardless of employer is still one of the biggest Windows fanbois on the Intarweb, that doesn't exactly create a balanced impression.<br><br>Considering that damned near right away, Robert has the thing degenerate into who has the most uptime, (which is as meaningless as ROI. I had Mac OS 8.X servers with 24 month uptimes. So the whole \"pre Mac OS X wasn't stable\" thing is both correct and incorrect.), and then some rambling history of Mac OS X, which for some reason made Microsoft out to be the best friend Apple had, yet oddly, left out some of the OTHER side of that history, like Gates personally threatening Sculley with pulling all MS support for the Mac if the proposed AppleBasic for the Mac wasn't killed, the threats about QuickTime, etc.<br><br>Once it degenerated into people saying \"WIndows is better because you can get a PC cheaper\", I punched out. It was either that or slit my wrists.<br><br><i>Regardless</i> of which you like better, this was the same lame - assed debate that you see in every damned advocacy forum and chatroom on the internet, and quite honestly, Robert pretty much guaranteed it with the way he set this up.<br><br>This wasn't an \"intelligent debate\", this was yet another friggin' advocacy argument.<br><br>Next time, just call it, \"Yet Another Advocacy War at Robert's House\". It'll be more honest.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_18:25:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "422187df3c45655b0dc2ae5de0710b27", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669409": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Don't do it as WMV OR QuickTime. For the love of dog, use MPEG-4. Everyone can view it. It's universal, and while not as pretty as h.264, it's not as hardware intensive either.<br><br>But dude...you get the head of a MUG on one side and the editor in chief of PC World on the other?<br><br>Because I hear there's this magazine called \"Macworld\", who has an editor in chief named Jason Snell, who, from rumor, can, on occasion, hold a discussion or two, and even has.<br><br>There's also John Gruber, from Daring Fireball, <a href=\"http://daringfireball.net/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://daringfireball.net/</a> who is quite good, and fun to listen to as well.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_12:17:24", "killed": false, "user_key": "422187df3c45655b0dc2ae5de0710b27", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669410": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Really enjoyed these Robert. :D<br><br>I think you should do more discussion type videos like this!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_18:11:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "f3397fc47c9cff784f6fbb703b954e33", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669411": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Is it more difficult to find guys for the Windows side than the Mac side, Scoble?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-01-31_12:08:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "d3ea5ee6736f486f879d4c80695b2223", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669412": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Michaelangelo, see post 103.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-24_23:24:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "a983a252753ca5ff141589fcd2b280d0", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669413": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "OS X: 'Hey, Vista, what's up?'<br>Vista: 'I'm playing a game.'<br>OS X: 'Cool, which one?'<br>Vista: 'Any.'<br>OS X: 'Oh...' (Turns away... Fades away...)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-24_16:55:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "ef4a50c2e6e4473629cad4ad7ececd16", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669414": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Use whatever OS works best for you and the software you wish to run on it. If OSX floats your boat, good for you, enjoy yourself; if it's Linux, then well done, I hope you're having fun, for me it's Windows.<br><br>It's interesting to think the OS debate is rarely ever \"THIS is better than THAT\", but more \"MINE is better than YOURS\", as if we need to justify ourselves to make ourselves feel better about the choices we have made.<br><br>I create 3D and 2D graphics, webpages and Flash animations using Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Flash, Cinema 4D, all from within XP (and now Vista) without a problem, without any effort, and without having to fight against some sort of mythical OS monster to do it. I've never had a computer virus in the 8 years connected to the net (4 years via broadband), and the last blue screen of death I had was at least 2 years ago. I also enjoy the latest games (STALKER is the current favourite).<br><br>It's a pity that owners of other operating systems will sometimes feel the need to try and make me feel inferior too them, for no apparent reason apart from to make themselves feel good.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-12_14:00:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "adcffeb2545e0b6def5718a83909166b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669415": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "With Leopard around the corner and the problems Vista faces, I guess Leopard will win the OS battle.<br><br>Cheers", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-08-14_11:32:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "72abce2d25d5e8cb07896d5378228f79", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669416": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I just want to point out the following:<br><br>Risk = Threat * Severity * Exposure<br><br>The reason why windows is more prone to attacks is simply because they are more exposed to being attacked. As a user, I regularly install free software from internet, do this and that, tweak something, or play with some trial.<br><br>With a Mac, everything is so hard to find, say I wanna get a third party codec for free. I can go on an on with examples of stuff that I need, that I can find for windows for free and not for Mac.<br><br>Securitywise, I think windows have improved a lot. I haven't had a virus in a loooong time. I do get those spywares, but then I have spybot and adaware for free that takes care of it. Stabilitywise it's actually much better than linux or solaris, which I have used and got dissappointed.<br><br>User interfacewise, I would say I am not anal or desperate about either MAC OS X or Win Vista. As a user I think both are excellent interface. But that is not an important factor for me when deciding which one to buy.<br><br>I want to be free when choosing the devices I want for my PC, for example I want NVIDIA chipset or may be ATI. And MOST IMPORTANTLY I want to be free enough so that if I decide to upgrade my computer, I can easily do it. Quite honestly, I dont perceive an Apple MAC computer to satisfy that.<br><br>Most important of all, I would be more interested in MAC if I wouldn't see these sort of \"religious fanaticism\" among apple users. Here's a story, I have a professor who hates PC and MS. So one day we're working on something and apparently he has this shitty P2 laptop half broken. He starts it and apparently it was taking a while to startup and he shakes his head and says oooohhhh microsoft!... I mean come on,... MAC people... if you wanna attract people towards MAC, I dont think bad mouthing Microsoft in Adv would really help. In fact that's the sign of an inferiority complex and a definite turn-off for people.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-12-20_16:04:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "e4d7b5ade93f3c9ad741c5277fd95e60", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9669417": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hi,<br><br>If you are like me not into watching 4 hours video and like to find the differences between Vista &amp; Mac OSX right away. Then you can easily check  <a href=\"http://itcomparison.com/OS/MacvsVista/macvsvista.htm\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://itcomparison.com/OS/MacvsVista/macvsvist...</a> which hit directly to the point.<br><br>Enjoy,<br>VMguru007", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-03-25_10:57:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "c3ed550b1ad202ece5ff288bcf1e23a1", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}}, "integration": {"receiver_url": "", "theme": 4, "reply_position": true, "disqus_logo": false}, "timer": {"timer_url": "http://localhost:8005", "thread_id": "18364935", "user_id": "anonymous", "forum_id": "125200", "hash": -8404401743449170200}, "thread": {"total_posts": 0, "paginate": false, "per_page": 0, "slug": "windows_vista_vs_osx_debate_now_up", "num_pages": 1, "days_alive": 0, "realtime_paused": true, "id": 18364935, "num_posts": 97, "closed": true, "queued": false, "killed": false}, "reactions_limit": 10, "context": {"show_reply": false, "use_fb_connect": true, "forum_facebook_key": "faaf467d0f47abde553c3b8e0e1b3570", "use_yahoo": false, "subscribed": false, "use_twitter_signin": true, "use_openid": false, "realtime_speed": 5000}, "reactions_start": 0, "settings": {"debug": false, "disqus_url": "http://disqus.com", "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"}, "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"};
	/* */ this.jsonData.cookie_messages = {"user_created": null, "post_has_profile": null, "post_twitter": null, "post_not_approved": null}; this.jsonData.session = {"url": null, "name": null, "email": null}; /* */

	
	this.curPageId = 'dsq-comments';

	this.frames = {};
};

var disqus_popup_reference = null;

if(typeof DsqLocal == 'undefined') {
	DsqLocal = {};
}



/**
 * Dsq.Strings: UI strings
 */
Dsq.Strings = new function() {
	this.ADD_NEW_COMMENT = "Add New Comment";
	this.LOG_INTO_DISQUS = "Log into DISQUS";
	this.USE_MEDIA = "Use Media";
	this.LOGOUT = "Logout";
	this.SHARING_OPTIONS = "Sharing options";
	this.SHARE_ON = "Share on";
	this.TWEET_THIS_COMMENT = "Tweet this comment";
	this.SHARE_ON_NEWSFEED = "Share on news feed";
	this.SEND_UPDATE_TO_YAHOO = "Send update to Yahoo!";
	this.REBLOG_ON = "Reblog on";
	this.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS = "Configure options";
	this.POST_AS = "Post as";
	this.SORT_BY = "Sort by";
	this.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL = "Subscribe by email";
	this.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS = "Subscribe by RSS";
	this.POPULAR_NOW = "Popular now";
	this.BEST_RATING = "Best Rating";
	this.NEWEST_FIRST = "Newest first";
	this.OLDEST_FIRST = "Oldest first";
	this.HIGHLIGHTED = "Highlighted";
	this.UNSUBSCRIBE = "Unsubscribe";
	this.REQUIRED = "Required";
	this.OPTIONAL = "Optional";
	this.YOU_ARE_COMMENTING_AS_A = "You are commenting as a";
	this.LOGIN_BELOW = "Login below";
	this.PLEASE_LOGIN_BELOW_TO_COMMENT = "Please login below to comment.";
	this.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL = "Subscribe to all comments by email";
	this.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS = "Do not subscribe to comments";
	this.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS = "Real-time updating is";
	this.ENABLED = "enabled";
	this.PAUSED = "paused";
	this.PAUSE = "Pause";
	this.RESUME = "Resume";
	this.SHOW = "Show";
	this.JUST_NOW = "Just now";
	this.REPLY = "Reply";
	this.EDIT = "Edit";
	this.FLAG = "Flag";
	this.MODERATE = "Moderate";
	this.CANCEL = "Cancel";
	this.REPLYING_TO = "Replying to";
	this.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS = "Report missing reactions";
	this.POST_A_COMMENT = "Post a comment";
	this.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT = "Flag inappropriate comment";
	this.FLAGGED = "Flagged";
	this.NO = "No";
	this.YES = "Yes";
	this.NEVER_MIND = "Never mind";
	this.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR = "Are you sure you would like to report this comment to a moderator";
	this.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION = "This will flag comments for moderators to take action";
	this.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN = "To rate, please log in";
	this.JUST_A_MOMENT = "Just a moment...";
	this.GUEST = "Guest";
	this.NAME = "Name";
	this.EMAIL = "Email";
  this.WEBSITE = "Website";
  this.SETTINGS = "Settings";
  this.MODERATOR_OPTIONS = "Moderator options: ";
  this.MODERATE_OPTIONS = "Moderate Options";

  // Thread moderator actions
  this.CLOSE_THREAD = "Close thread";
  this.OPEN_THREAD = "Open thread";
  this.REMOVE_THREAD = "Remove thread";
  this.RESTORE_THREAD = "Restore thread";
  this.ACTIONS = "Actions";
};
// Dsq.Strings

/**
 * Dsq.FmtStrings: functions that return interpolated UI strings
 */
Dsq.FmtStrings = new function() {
	// Seems we have to use named interpolation for Django to translate. Investigate more.
	this.LOGGED_IN_AS = function(username) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logged in as %(username)s', {username:username});
	};

	this.LOGOUT_FROM = function(disqus) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logout from %(disqus)s', {disqus:disqus});
	};

	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL = function(total, num) {
		if (num === 1) {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> of <span id='dsq-total-posts'>%(total)s</span> comment", {num:num, total:total});
		} else {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> of <span id='dsq-total-posts'>%(total)s</span> comments", {num:num, total:total});
		}
	};

	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION = function(num) {
		if (num === 1) {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comment", {num:num});
		} else {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comments", {num:num});
		}
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s comment'
				: '%(num)s comments'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_LIKES = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s like'
				: '%(num)s likes'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_POINTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s point'
				: '%(num)s points'
			), {num:num});
	};
};
// Dsq.FmtStrings





Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN = 'a2d140c59df8cd4ce27a20e0829cacd8';
Dsq.COMMENTS_RE = /(<li.*?id="?dsq-comment-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/li>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_RE = /(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-header-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/div>)\s*(<div.*?class="?dsq-comment-body"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_BODY_RE = /\s*(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-message-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
// HACK: Safari ends with "-->" while other browsers end with "--&gt;" as expected.
Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE = /&lt;!--\[(.*?)\]--(?:>|&gt;)/gim;



var FragmentPacket = function(reader, writer, writer_url, is_child, receiveCallback) {
	var that = this;
	this.reader = reader;
	this.writer = writer;
	this.writer_url = writer_url;

	this.is_child = is_child || false;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;

	this._lastHash = null;

	this._accumMsg = '';

	this._lastSeqno = 0;

	this.MAX_DATA_LEN	= 1024;

	this.WAIT_TIME		= 10;

	this.READY		= 0x1;
	this.WRITING	= 0x2;
	this.FIN		= 0x4;
	this.ACK		= 0x8;

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;
	var listener = function() {
		that.recv();
	};
	return window.setInterval(listener, 10);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.log = function(msg) {



};

FragmentPacket.prototype.recv = function() {
	var hash;
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {

		hash = this.reader.name;
	} else {

		var hashIndex = this.reader.location.href.indexOf('#');
		if (hashIndex == -1) {
			return;
		}
		hash = this.reader.location.href.substring(hashIndex+1);
	}
	var flags = parseInt(hash.substring(0, 4), 10);
	var seqno = parseInt(hash.substring(4, 24), 10);
	var data  = hash.substring(24);

	if (this._lastHash !== hash) {
		this._lastHash = hash;
		this.log('recv: ' + hash);

		this.log(' flags: ' + flags);
		this.log(' seqno: ' + seqno + ' len: ' + hash.substring(4, 24).length + ' (' + hash.substring(4, 24) + ')');
		this.log(' data: ' + data + ' len: ' + data.length);

		this._lastSeqno = seqno;

		if (flags & this.WRITING) {
			this._accumMsg += data;
			this.sendFlag(this.ACK, seqno);
			if (flags & this.FIN) {
				this.log('recv finished: ' + decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));
				this.receiveCallback(decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));

				this._accumMsg = '';

				this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
			}
		}
	}

	return {
		flags: flags,
		seqno: seqno,
		data: data
	};
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendRawPacket = function(packet) {
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {
		this.writer.name = packet;
	} else {

		this.writer.location.href = this.writer_url + '#' + packet;
	}

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendFlag = function(flag, seqno) {
	this.sendRawPacket(this._zerofill(flag, 4) + this._zerofill(seqno, 20));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {
	this._send(0, encodeURIComponent(msg));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._send = function(packetNum, msg) {
	var that = this;
	var recvBuf = this.recv();

	if (packetNum === 0) {

		if (!(recvBuf.flags & this.READY)) {
			this.log('client is not ready, waiting...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		}
	} else {

		if (!( (recvBuf.flags & this.ACK) && (recvBuf.seqno === this._lastSeqno) )) {
			this.log('waiting for ack from client...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		} else {
			this.log('received ack: ' + this._lastSeqno + ' ' + recvBuf.seqno);
		}
	}

	var flags = this.WRITING;
	var num_packets = Math.ceil(msg.length / this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	this.log('num_packets: ' + num_packets);

	if (num_packets === packetNum) {

		this.log('message successfully sent!');
		this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
		return true;
	}

	this._lastSeqno++;

	if (packetNum == num_packets-1) {
		flags |= this.FIN;
	}

	var data = msg.substring(packetNum * this.MAX_DATA_LEN, (packetNum+1) * this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	var packet = this._zerofill(flags, 4) + this._zerofill(this._lastSeqno, 20) + data;

	this.log('sending raw packet: ' + packet);
	this.sendRawPacket(packet);

	return this._send(packetNum + 1, msg);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._zerofill = function(num, width) {
	var retval = num.toString();
	var retval_len = retval.length;
	for (var i = 0; i < width - retval_len; i++) {
		retval = '0' + retval;
	}
	return retval;
};

var PostMessagePacket = function(receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId) {
	var that = this;
	this.receiver = receiver;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;
	this.id = id;


	this.receiverId = receiverId;
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;

	var listener = function(e) {

		if (!that.id) {
			that.id = e.data;
			return;
		}


		var id = e.data.split(';')[0];
		if (id !== that.id) {
			return;
		}
		var data = e.data.substring(e.data.indexOf(';') + 1);

		that.receiveCallback(data);
	};

	if (typeof window.attachEvent == 'function') {
		window.attachEvent('onmessage', listener);
	} else if (typeof window.addEventListener == 'function') {
		window.addEventListener('message', listener, false);
	} else {
		throw new Error('No method found to create event listener for PostMessagePacket.');
	}
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {



	var needs_reget = false;
	try {
		if (typeof this.receiver.id == 'undefined' || typeof this.receiver.postMessage == 'undefined') {
			needs_reget = true;
		}
	} catch(e) {


	}
	if (needs_reget && typeof this.receiverId != 'undefined') {
		this.receiver = document.getElementById(this.receiverId).contentWindow;
	}

	var packet;
	if (!msg) {

		packet = this.id;
	} else {
		packet = this.id + ';' + msg;
	}
	this.receiver.postMessage(packet, '*');
};

PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = null;
PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id = function() {
	var id = (new Date()).getTime();
	if (id == PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id) {
		id++;
	}
	PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = id;
	return id.toString();
};

var JsonRpc = function() {

	this.ids = {};

	this.objectToJSON = function(obj) {
		var json = '';
		var results = [];

		if (obj === undefined || obj === null) {
			return 'null';
		}

		switch (obj.constructor) {
			case Object:
				for (var property in obj) {
					if (obj.hasOwnProperty(property)) {
						results.push(this.objectToJSON(property) + ': ' + this.objectToJSON(obj[property]));
					}
				}
				json = '{' + results.join(', ') + '}';
				break;
			case Array:
				for (var i = 0; i < obj.length; i++) {
					results.push(this.objectToJSON(obj[i]));
				}
				json = '[' + results.join(', ') + ']';
				break;
			case Number:
			case Boolean:
				json = obj.toString();
				break;
			case String:

				var specialChars = {'\b': '\\b', '\t': '\\t', '\n': '\\n', '\f': '\\f', '\r': '\\r', '\\': '\\\\'};

				json = obj.replace(/[\x00-\x1f\\]/g, function(match) {
					var ch = specialChars[match];
					return ch ? ch : '\\u00' + match.charCodeAt().toPaddedString(2, 16);
				});

				json = '"' + json.replace(/"/g, '\\"') + '"';
				break;
			default:

				json = 'null';
				break;
		}

		return json;
	};

	this.createHandler = function(send_func, registered_funcs) {
		var that = this;
		var handler = function(message) {

			try {
				var rpc = eval('(' + message + ')');
			} catch(e) {
				alert('bad JSON: ' + message);
				return;
			}
			if (rpc.method) {

				if (!registered_funcs[rpc.method]) {
					return;
				}

				var retval = registered_funcs[rpc.method].apply(null, rpc.params);
				if (rpc.id) {
					var response = {
						result: retval,
						error: null,	// TODO
						id: rpc.id
					};
					send_func(that.objectToJSON(response));
				}
			} else if(rpc.result) {

				if (!that.ids[rpc.id]) {
					return;
				}

				that.ids[rpc.id](rpc.result);
				delete that.ids[rpc.id];
			}
		};
		return handler;
	};

	this.execute = function(send_func, method, params, response_callback) {
		response_callback = response_callback || null;
		var id = (response_callback) ? (new Date()).getTime() : null;

		var request = {
			method: method,
			params: params,
			id: id
		};

		send_func(this.objectToJSON(request));

		if (id) {
			this.ids[id] = response_callback;
		}
	};
};
JsonRpc = new JsonRpc();

var ParentMessenger = function(childUrl, receiverUrl, container, receiveCallback) {


	if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Safari') >= 0 && parseInt(navigator.userAgent.substring(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Version/') + 8), 10) == 3) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	} else if (window.opera) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}



	if (!receiverUrl &&
		navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Gecko') >= 0 &&
		parseFloat(navigator.userAgent.slice(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 3, navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 6)) < 1.9) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}


	if (/msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent)) {


		if (document.domain == window.location.hostname) {
			receiverUrl = '';
		}
	}

	var that = this;
	this.childUrl = childUrl;
	this.receiverUrl = receiverUrl;
	this.container = container || document.body;

	this.packetHandler = null;


	this._ready = false;
	this._error = false;


	var _createReceiverForFragmentPacket = function() {

		that.receiver = document.createElement('iframe');
		that.receiver.src = receiverUrl;
		that.receiver.id = 'receiver_' + (new Date()).getTime();
		that.receiver.name = that.receiver.id;

		that.receiver.frameBorder = '0';
		that.receiver.frameSpacing = '0';
		that.receiver.style.borderStyle = 'none';

		var receiver_onload = function() {
			var receiver = document.getElementById(that.receiver.id).contentWindow;

			try {
				receiver.document.body.innerHTML = '';
			} catch(e) {

				that._error = true;
			}
			receiver.document.body.style.padding = '0px';
			receiver.document.body.style.margin = '0px';

			var child = receiver.document.createElement('iframe');
			child.id = 'child';
			child.name = 'child';
			child.src = that.childUrl;

			child.frameBorder = '0';
			child.frameSpacing = '0';
			child.style.borderStyle = 'none';
			child.style.width = '100%';
			child.style.height = '100%';
			receiver.document.body.appendChild(child);

			that.child = receiver.document.getElementById('child').contentWindow;
			that.receiver = receiver;

			that.packetHandler = new FragmentPacket(that.receiver, that.child, that.childUrl, false, receiveCallback);

			that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();

			that.packetHandler.sendFlag(that.packetHandler.READY, 0);

			that._ready = true;
		};

		that.receiver.onreadystatechange = function() {
			if (this.readyState == 'complete') {
				receiver_onload();
			}
		};

		that.receiver.onload = receiver_onload;







		if (Dsq.Utils.ie) {
			if (that.container.clientWidth === 0) {

				var _waitForWidth = function() {
					if (that.container.clientWidth > 0) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					} else {
						window.setTimeout(_waitForWidth, 100);
					}
				};
				_waitForWidth();

				that._once = false;
				that.receiver.onresize = function() {
					if (!that._once) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					}
					that._once = true;
				};
			}
		}

		that.container.appendChild(that.receiver);
	};


	var _createReceiverForPostMessage = function() {

		var receiver_onload = function() {

			that.packetHandler.send();
			that._ready = true;
		};

		var id = PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id();
		var receiverId = 'child_' + id;


		ParentMessenger['_receiver_onload_' + receiverId] = receiver_onload;

		that.container.innerHTML += '<iframe ' +
			'src="' + childUrl + '" ' +
			'id="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'name="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'onload="ParentMessenger._receiver_onload_' + receiverId +'();" ' +
			'></iframe>';

		that.receiver = document.getElementById(receiverId).contentWindow;
		that.packetHandler = new PostMessagePacket(that.receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId);
		that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();
	};

	if (typeof window.postMessage == 'function') {
		_createReceiverForPostMessage();
	} else {
		_createReceiverForFragmentPacket();
	}

};

ParentMessenger.prototype.sendMessage = function(message) {
	var that = this;
	if (!this._ready) {

		window.setTimeout(function() { that.sendMessage(message); }, 10);
		return;
	}
	this.packetHandler.send(message);
	return true;
};

Dsq.NewFrames = function(url) {
	this.url = url;
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype.init = function(onFailure) {
	var that = this;

	try {
		this.messenger = new ParentMessenger(this.url, Dsq.jsonData.integration.receiver_url, this.container, this.receive_callback);
	} catch(e) {
		if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
			onFailure();
		}
	}

	if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
		var iId = window.setInterval(function() {
			if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				return;
			}
			if (that.messenger._ready) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
			} else if (that.messenger._error) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				onFailure();
			}
		}, 10);
	}
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype._execute = function(method, args, callback) {
	var that = this;
	if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
		return false;
	}
	JsonRpc.execute(
		function(msg) { that.messenger.sendMessage(msg); },
		method,
		args || [],
		callback);
	return true;
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame = function(container, parent_post_id) {
	var that = this;
	this.container = container;
	this.parent_post_id = parent_post_id;

	var sendFunc = function(msg) {

		Dsq.Debug.log('Dsq.ReplyFrame.sendFunc');
		that.messenger.sendMessage(msg);
	};


	var postComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		Dsq.jsonData.posts[response.message.id] = response.message.post_meta;
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key]) {
			Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key] = response.message.user_meta;
		}


		var reply_position = (typeof(disqus_insert_wrt_sort) == 'undefined' 
			? (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reply_position ? -1 : null) 
			: (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? null : -1));
		
		if (response.message.post_meta.approved) {
			Dsq.Post.insert(response.message.post_meta.parent_post_id || reply_position, response.message.id, response.message.post_meta.message);
		}

		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onSuccess(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var postComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(response.message, 'Error');
		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onFailure(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var editComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);
		
		message.innerHTML = response.message;
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
	
	var editComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('Sorry, there was an error editing this comment.', 'Edit Error');
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	var getUserByEmail_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var msg = response.message;
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(parent_post_id);

		if (msg.username) {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'login', {
				'username': msg.username,
				'display_name': msg.display_name,
				'avatar_url': msg.avatar_url,
				'verified': msg.verified,
				'email': fields.email.value
			});
		} else {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'register');
		}
	};

	var validateAuth_onSuccess = function(response, auth_choice) {
		Dsq.Templates.postComment(parent_post_id, null, true, auth_choice);
	};

	var validateAuth_onFailure = function(response, auth_choice) {
		var pid = parent_post_id ? '-' + parent_post_id : '';
		var msg = response.message;

		if (auth_choice == 'register') {
			var fields = ['email', 'username', 'password'];

			for (var i = 0; i < fields.length; i++) {
				var field = fields[i];
				var errorDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-' + field + '-errors' + pid);

				if (msg[field]) {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = msg[field];
				} else {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = '';
				}
			}
		} else if (auth_choice == 'login') {
			Dsq.$('dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid).innerHTML = '<p>We couldn\'t log you in. Please verify your login.</p>';
		}
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.receive_callback = JsonRpc.createHandler(sendFunc, {
		'postComment.onSuccess': postComment_onSuccess,
		'postComment.onFailure': postComment_onFailure,
		'editComment.onSuccess': editComment_onSuccess,
		'editComment.onFailure': editComment_onFailure,		
		'getUserByEmail.onSuccess': getUserByEmail_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onSuccess': validateAuth_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onFailure': validateAuth_onFailure,
		'reload': function() { window.location.reload(); }
	});

	this.url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY +
		'?' + (new Date()).getTime() +
		'&f=scobleizer' +
		'&t=windows_vista_vs_osx_debate_now_up' +
		'&ff=' + Dsq.Thread.ff +
		'&default_text=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_default_text) +
		'&ifrs=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css);
	if (this.parent_post_id) {
		this.url += '&parent_post=' + this.parent_post_id;
	}
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype = new Dsq.NewFrames(Dsq.ReplyFrame.url);

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.post = function(author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe) {
	this._execute('postComment', [author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.edit = function(post_id, message) {
	this._execute('editComment', [post_id, message]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.setState = function(parent_post_id, depth) {
	this._execute('setState', [parent_post_id, depth]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.getUserByEmail = function(email) {
	this._execute('getUserByEmail', [email]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.validateAuth = function(auth_choice, email, username, password) {
	this._execute('validateAuth', [auth_choice, email, username, password]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.authenticateFacebook = function(session, forum_url) {
	this._execute('authenticateFacebook', [session, forum_url]);
};

	Dsq.Facebook = function() {
	var that = this;

	var handleSessionData = function(session) {

		var forum_url = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;




		if (typeof disqus_facebook_forum != 'undefined') {
			forum_url = disqus_facebook_forum;
		}
		Dsq.frames.reply_0.authenticateFacebook(session, forum_url);
	};

	var onLogin = function() {
		FB.Connect.getSignedPublicSessionData(handleSessionData);
	};

	this.login = function() {
		FB.Connect.requireSession(onLogin, true);
	};
};
Dsq.Facebook = new Dsq.Facebook();


	






Dsq.Themes = {};

Dsq.Themes.narcissus = new function() {
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-form-area';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-textarea-wrapper';



	
	this.header = function() {
		var comments_count, total_posts, num_posts;
		var html = '';
		var missing_perm_tmpl;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.missing_perm) {
			missing_perm_tmpl = Dsq.Templates.missingPermissions();
			if (missing_perm_tmpl) {
				html += '<div class="dsq-missing-permissions">' + missing_perm_tmpl + '</div>';
			}
		}

		total_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.total_posts;
		num_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_posts;

		if (total_posts) {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL(total_posts, num_posts);
		} else {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION(num_posts);
		}

		html += ' \
		<div id="dsq-comments-title"> \
			<h3>' + comments_count + '</h3> \
		</div> \
		';

		html += ' \
		<div class="dsq-options"> \
			<span class="dsq-item-sort">'
				+ Dsq.Strings.SORT_BY + ' \
				<select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);"> \
					<option value="hot" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 4 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.POPULAR_NOW + '</option> \
					<option value="best" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 3 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.BEST_RATING + '</option> \
					<option value="newest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.NEWEST_FIRST + '</option> \
					<option value="oldest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 1 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.OLDEST_FIRST + '</option> \
				</select> \
				&nbsp; \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<span id="dsq-subscribe">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.subscribed
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.UNSUBSCRIBE + '</a>'
						: '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL + '</a>')
				+ '</span> \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-rss" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png" alt="" /> \
				<a href="http://scobleizer.disqus.com/windows_vista_vs_osx_debate_now_up/latest.rss">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS + '</a> \
			</span> \
		</div> \
		';

		
		

		return html;

	};
	
	this.footer = function() {
		var html = '';

		html += Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
		
			html += Dsq.Templates.realtime();
			html += Dsq.Templates.showThreadSettings();
			html += Dsq.Templates.postBox();

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		


		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) {
 			html += ' \
				<div class="dsq-global-moderator-extras">'
					+ '<strong>shortname:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url
					+ '<strong>thread id:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.id
					+ '<strong>thread slug:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.slug
				+ '</div> \
			';
		}

		return html;
	};
	
	this.realtime = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			html += '<div id="dsq-realtime-options" class="dsq-options">'
					 + Dsq.Strings.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS + ' <strong id="dsq-realtime-status" style="text-transform: lowercase">' + Dsq.Strings.ENABLED + '</strong>. \
					 <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-toggle" style="text-transform: capitalize"></a> \
					</div>';
		}

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
			html += ' \
				<div style="display: none" id="dsq-realtime-alert" class="dsq-realtime-alert"><span id="dsq-realtime-queued"></span> <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-show"></a></div> \
			';
		}
		
		return html;
	};

	this.showThreadSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '<div id="dsq-thread-settings" class="dsq-thread-settings">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATOR_OPTIONS;
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showSettings(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.SETTINGS + '</a>';
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showModeratorActions(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>';
		if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled && Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.reportMissingReactions(); return false;">'
						+ Dsq.Strings.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS
						+ '</a>';
		}
		html +='</div>';

		return html;
	};

	this.postBox = function(post_id, use_fallback_iframe) {


		var html;
		var display_sharing_options = Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated;

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post) {
			return '';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.hasOwnProperty(Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain)) {
				display_sharing_options = false;
			}
		}
		
		if (post_id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];				
		}
		
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		var _requestUserInfo = function() {
			var html;



			var user_has_email = false;

			html = '<div class="dsq-request-user-info"> <!-- // If authenticated --> \
				<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT + '?ctkn=' + Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN + '" class="dsq-request-user-logout">' + Dsq.Strings.LOGOUT + '</a> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td rowspan="2">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '')
								+ '<img src="' + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR + '" width="48" height="48" class="dsq-request-user-avatar">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-name">'
								+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
									 ? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '">' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '</span>'
									 : (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_verified
											? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span>'
											: '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span>'))
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '') 
								+ Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username 
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
							+  (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && user_has_email ? ' <small>(<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.remoteAccountSettings(); return false;">change settings</a>)</small>' : '')
							+  (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <small>(<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/info/" target="_blank">change name</a> or <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/avatar/" target="_blank">picture</a>)</small>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-stats"> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count == 1 ? 'comment' : 'comments') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count == 1 ? 'like' : 'likes') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.points + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.points == 1 ? 'point' : 'points') + '</span> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		var _loginOptions = function() {
			var html;
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-authenticate"> \
				<p class="dsq-autheneticate-copy">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
					? Dsq.Strings.YOU_ARE_COMMENTING_AS_A + ' <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. ' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.LOGIN_BELOW + '.'
					: Dsq.Strings.REQUIRED + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.PLEASE_LOGIN_BELOW_TO_COMMENT + '.')
				+ '</p> \
				<ul class="dsq-login-buttons">'
					+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-disqus.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Facebook.login(); return false;"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-facebook.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-twitter.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL(); return false" ><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-openid.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_yahoo ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Yahoo.startYahooConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-yahoo.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
				+ '</ul> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {



				return '<div id="dsq-form-area" style="display:none"><div id="dsq-textarea-wrapper"></div></div>' + _loginOptions();
			} else {
				return '';
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<div id="' + (post_id 
			? 'dsq-reply-post-' + post_id
			: 'dsq-new-post')
		 	+ '" class="dsq-post-area"> \
			<div class="dsq-dc-logo"> \
				<a href="http://disqus.com/comments" target="_blank"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/disqus-logo.png"></a> \
			</div>'
			+ (post_id 
				? '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.REPLYING_TO + ' ' + userData.display_name + '</h3>'
				: '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT + '</h3>')
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated 
				? _requestUserInfo()
				: _loginOptions() )
			+ '<div id="dsq-form-area' + pid + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-textarea"> \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper" id="dsq-textarea-wrapper' + pid + '"></div> \
			</div>'
			+ (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated
			? ' \
			<div class="dsq-post-fields"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-name' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_name ? disqus_def_name : (Dsq.jsonData.session.name ? Dsq.jsonData.session.name : Dsq.Strings.NAME + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-website' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (Dsq.jsonData.session.url ? Dsq.jsonData.session.url : Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')" class="dsq-placeholder') + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" /></div></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-email' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_email ? disqus_def_email : (Dsq.jsonData.session.email ? Dsq.jsonData.session.email : Dsq.Strings.EMAIL + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"> \
							<div class="dsq-subscribe"> \
								<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.chooseSubscribe(' + post_id + '); return false" class="dsq-subscribe-menu"><span id="dsq-subscribe-select' + pid + '">' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post ? Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL : Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS) + '</span> <small>&#9660;</small></a> \
								<ul class="dsq-panel" id="dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid + '"> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(2, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL + '</a></li> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(0, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS + '</a></li> \
								</ul> \
								<input id="dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid + '" type="hidden" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post + '" /> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div>'
			: '')
			+ '<div class="dsq-post-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-sharing-options" ' + (!display_sharing_options ? 'style="display:none;"' : '') + '> \
					<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onfocus="document.getElementById(\'dsq-post-button' + pid + '\').focus();"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.SHARING_OPTIONS + ' <small>&#9660;</small></span></button> \
					<div class="dsq-panel"> '
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '"'
								  + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Twitter</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook
								&& (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.enabled === true ||
										(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'facebook'))
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Facebook</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Yahoo!</label> \
								</div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Tumblr</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Wordpress</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Movable Type</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
								  <label for="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' TypePad</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ '<div><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections/" target="_blank" class="dsq-configure-options">' + Dsq.Strings.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS + '</a></div>'
					+ '</div> \
				</div>'
				+ '<button type="button" class="dsq-button" id="dsq-post-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, false)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.POST_AS + ' '
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					? Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					: Dsq.Strings.GUEST)
				+ '</span></button>'
				+ (post_id
					? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button" id="dsq-cancel-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.CANCEL + '</span></button>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
			+ '</div>' // end dsq-form-area
		+ '</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};




	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-append-post-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		html = ' \
		<table> \
			<tr> \
				<td id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-avatar" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
					<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
					? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
					: '')
				+ '</a> \
				</td> \
				<td class="dsq-comment-header-meta"> \
		';

		
		return html;
	};
	
	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var html;
		var parent_display_name = '';
		
		if(_meta.parent_post_id) {

			var _parent_meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[_meta.parent_post_id];

			if (_parent_meta) {
				var parentUserData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_parent_meta.user_key];
				parent_display_name = parentUserData.display_name;
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png" class="dsq-moderator-star" title="Moderator" /> \
		<span class="dsq-comment-header-time"><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')" title="Permalink">' + (_meta.is_realtime ? Dsq.Strings.JUST_NOW : _meta.date) + '</a></span> '
		+ (_meta.parent_post_id && parent_display_name
			? '<a href="#comment-' + _meta.parent_post_id + '" title="Jump to comment">in reply to ' + parent_display_name + '</a>'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		<td id="dsq-like-pts-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-comment-header-likes">'
		+ (_meta.points
			? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		</tr> \
		</table> \
		';
		return html;
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		var html = '';
		return html;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed || !_meta.approved) { return ''; }
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
					? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.moderateOptions(' + post_id+ '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>'
					: '')
				+ '<a href="#" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG + '</a> \
			</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right">'
				+ (_meta.votable 
					? '<span id="dsq-like-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-like">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1)" >Like</button>'
						: 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;')
					+ '</span>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-post-edit" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + ')" >' + Dsq.Strings.EDIT + '</button>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<span class="dsq-comment-footer-reply" id="dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-comment-footer-reply-tab">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button><span></span> \
					</span>'
					: '')
			+ '</div> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};



	
	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		var item = '<li class="dsq-comment dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-header"> \
			<table> \
			<tr> \
			<td class="dsq-header-avatar"> \
			';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'" class="dsq-avatar">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {

			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar92.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== ''
				? '</a>'
				: '')
			+ '</td>'
			+ '<td><cite class="dsq-comment-cite">' + reaction.author_name + '</cite> <span class="dsq-comment-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</span></td>'
			+ '<td class="dsq-comment-header-likes"></td>'
			+ '</tr></table></div>' // end dsq-comment-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header" \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-reaction-header-left">'
							+ '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png" />'
							+ ' From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
							+ 'via <a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? 'BackType' : 'UberVU') + '</a>'
						+ '</td>'
						+ '<td class="dsq-reaction-header-right">';

			if(reaction.retweets) {
				var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
				if (num_retweets > 0) {
					if (num_retweets == 1) {
						item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
					} else {
						item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');
						item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
						var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 3) ? 3 : num_retweets;
						item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);
						if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
							item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
								+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
						}
					}
				}
			}	
			item += '</td></tr> \
			</table> \
			</div>' // end dsq-reaction-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-body"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left"> \
				</div>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator 
					? ' \
					<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right"> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-hide-reaction" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + ')">Hide</button> \
					</div>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 id="dsq-reactions-title" class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-container"> \
			<table> \
				<tbody> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-tl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-tr"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-body"> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
								<div class="dsq-popup-title"> \
									<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" style="float:right" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)">Close</button>'
									+ content['header'] 
								+ '</div>'
								+ content['body']
							+ '</div> \
							<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
						</td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-bl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-br"></td> \
					</tr> \
				</tbody> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
	};



	
	this.chooseSubscribe = function(post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		menu.style.display = menu.style.display == 'block' ? 'none' : 'block';
		
	};
	
	this.setSubscribe = function(value, el, post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var input = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid);
		var select = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-select' + pid);
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		select.innerHTML = el.innerHTML;
		input.value = value;
		this.chooseSubscribe(post_id);
	};
	
	this.getFormFields = function(post_id) {

		var fields = {};
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var name = Dsq.$('dsq-field-name' + pid);
		var email = Dsq.$('dsq-field-email' + pid);
		var website = Dsq.$('dsq-field-website' + pid);
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid);
		var password = Dsq.$('dsq-field-password' + pid);

		fields = {
			'name': name,
			'email': email,
			'website': website,
			'username': username,
			'password': password
		}
		
		return fields;
	}
	
	this.validateFields = function(post_id) {
		
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) { return true; }
		
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		
		var nameField = fields.name;
		var websiteField = fields.website;
		var emailField = fields.email;
		
		websiteField.value = (websiteField.value == Dsq.Templates.placeholder['website']) ? '' : websiteField.value;
		
		var v = [{

			validator: Dsq.Validators.name,
			value: nameField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.email,
			value: emailField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.url,
			value: websiteField.value
		}];
		
		return Dsq.Validators.validate(v, function(e) { Dsq.Popup.popModal(e, 'Oops...') } );
	};
	
	this.checkExistingUser = function(post_id) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);		
		Dsq.Popup.loading(post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		}
	};

	this.validateAuth = function(el_clicked, post_id, auth_choice) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		var email = fields.email ? fields.email.value : '';
		var username = fields.username ? fields.username.value : '';
		var password = fields.password ? fields.password.value : '';
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		}
	};

	this.lightboxUpdateEmail = function(post_id, new_email) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		fields.email.value = new_email;
	};

	this.lightboxAuthenticate = function(post_id, auth_choice, auth_data) {
		var title, body;
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		if(typeof(auth_data) == 'undefined') {
			var auth_data = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		}

		d = auth_data;

		switch(auth_choice) {
			case 'register':
				var suggestedUsername = d.name.value.replace(/[^a-zA-Z0-9-]/g,'').toLowerCase();
			
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Register a <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';

				body = ' \
				<ul class="dsq-lightbox-register-reasons"> \
				<li>Verify your comments</li> \
				<li>Edit and delete comments</li> \
				<li>Manage comments and replies</li> \
				</ul> \
				';

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Email</td> \
							<td><input type="text" value="' + d.email.value + '" onchange="Dsq.Templates.lightboxUpdateEmail(' + post_id + ', this.value)" /><div id="dsq-email-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + suggestedUsername + '"/><div id="dsq-username-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /><div id="dsq-password-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'login\'); return false">Login instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button type="button" class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Register and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			case 'login':
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Login to your <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';
				body = '';
				
				if(d.avatar_url) {
					body += '<div class="dsq-lightbox-recognized"><table><tr>';
					body += '<td><img src="' + d.avatar_url + '" alt="" /></td>';
					body += '<td><span class="dsq-badge ' + (d.verified ? 'dsq-badge-verified' : 'dsq-badge-registered') + '">' + (d.verified ? 'Verified' : 'Registered') + '</span></td>';
					body += '<td>Hey <strong>' + d.display_name + '</strong>, is that you? Login below to claim this comment.';
					body += '</tr></table></div>';
				}

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username or Email</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (d.avatar_url ? d.username : '') + '" /></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password <a href="http://disqus.com/forgot" target="_blank">(cannot log in?)</a></td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'register\'); return false">Register instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button type="button" class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Login and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
		Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid).focus();
	};
	
	this.buttonsToRestore = [];
	this.setLoadingButton = function(btn, post_id) {
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		if (btn) {

			var loadingBtn = document.createElement('button');
			loadingBtn.id = btn.id + '-loading';
			loadingBtn.innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-lite.gif" alt="" /> ' + Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
			loadingBtn.className = btn.className + ' dsq-post-loading';
			btn.parentNode.appendChild(loadingBtn);
			btn.style.display = 'none';
			var cancelBtn = Dsq.$('dsq-cancel-button' + pid);
			if(cancelBtn) { cancelBtn.style.display = 'none'; this.buttonsToRestore.push(cancelBtn); }
			this.buttonsToRestore.push(btn);
		} else {

			var buttons = this.buttonsToRestore;
			for(var i = 0; i < buttons.length; i++) {
				buttons[i].style.display = 'inline';
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$(buttons[i].id + '-loading'));
			}
		}
		
	};

	this.postComment = function(post_id, el_clicked, force, auth_choice) {
		var append_id = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);

		if (Dsq.Templates.validateFields(post_id)) {

			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && !force &&
				((!Dsq.Utils.readCookie('skipped_auth') && !disqus_skip_auth && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled) || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post)) {
				Dsq.Templates.checkExistingUser(post_id);
				return false;
			}
			var params = [];
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
				params.push(fields.name.value,
					fields.email.value,
					fields.website.value);

				if (auth_choice == 'login' || auth_choice == 'register') {
					params.push({
						auth_choice: auth_choice,
						username: fields.username.value,
						password: fields.password.value,
						email: fields.email.value
					});
				} else {
					params.push(null);
				}

				params.push(null /* sharing options */, Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + append_id).value);
			} else {
				var service_checked = function(name) {
					var el = Dsq.$('dsq-sharing-' + name + append_id);
					return (el !== null && el.checked === true) ? '1' : '0';
				};
				params.push(null, null, null, null, {
					tw: service_checked('twitter'),
					fb: service_checked('facebook'),
					tr: service_checked('tumblr'),
					wp: service_checked('wordpress'),
					mt: service_checked('movabletype'),
					tp: service_checked('typepad'),
					yh: service_checked('yahoo')
				});
			}

			var frame = Dsq.frames['reply_' + (post_id ? post_id : 0)];
			frame.post.apply(frame, params);

			if (el_clicked) {
				Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
			}
			
			if (force) {
				Dsq.Utils.createCookie('skipped_auth', true);	
			}
			
		} else {
			return false;
		}
	};

	this.editComment = function(el_clicked, post_id) {
		var edited_message = Dsq.$('dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id).value;

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].edit(post_id, edited_message);
	};

	this.toggleEdit = function(post_id) {
		var body = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-body-' + post_id);
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);

		if (!Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id]) {


			message.style.display = 'none';
			if (Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {

				var edit_area = document.createElement('div');
				edit_area.id = 'dsq-edit-' + post_id;
				edit_area.className = 'dsq-edit dsq-textarea';
				edit_area.innerHTML = ' \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper"> \
					<textarea class="dsq-edit-textarea" id="dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id + '">' + message.innerHTML + '</textarea> \
				</div> \
				<div class="dsq-save-edit"> \
					<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.editComment(this, ' + post_id + ')" class="dsq-button-small">Save Edit</button> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id + '" style="display: none"></div> \
				';

				body.appendChild(edit_area);

				if (!Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id), post_id);
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].init();
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
		} else {

			message.style.display = 'block';
			Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id] = !Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id];
	};
	
	this.edit = function(el, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(post_id, button) {
		
		if(!this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

			if (Dsq.$('dsq-reply-post-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id);
				var container = Dsq.$('dsq-textarea-wrapper-' + post_id);
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] && container) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(container, post_id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].init(function() {

						Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id, true);
						Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id).innerHTML = '';

						var theme = (typeof disqus_frame_theme == 'undefined') ? 'default' : disqus_frame_theme;
						Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id), post_id, {theme: theme});

					});
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-append-post';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply-active';
			
		} else {

			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = '';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply';
		}
		
		this.stateReplyToggled[post_id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[post_id];

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie && this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

		}

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: post_id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]
		});
	};
	
	this.moderateOptions = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		if(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) { return false; }

		var html;
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-moderate-options"> \
		<table>'
		+ (_meta.email ? '<tr><td>Email</td><td>' + _meta.email + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ (_meta.ip ? '<tr><td>IP address</td><td>' + _meta.ip + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ '<tr> \
			<td>Actions</td> \
			<td><ul>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
				? '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
				: '')
			+ '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Delete Comment</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li> \
			</ul></td> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		html += '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
		
		return Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Moderate Options', post_id);
	};
	
	this.placeholder = {
		'class': 'dsq-placeholder',
		'name': Dsq.Strings.NAME,
		'email': Dsq.Strings.EMAIL,
		'website': Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')'
	};
	
	this.handlePlaceholder = function(evt, el, key) {
		var placeholder = Dsq.Templates.placeholder[key];
		var className = Dsq.Templates.placeholder['class'];
		
		switch(evt.type) {
			case 'focus':
				if(el.value == placeholder) {
					el.value = '';
					el.className = '';
				}
				break;

			case 'blur':
				if(el.value == '') {
					el.value = placeholder;
					el.className = className;
				}
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
	};
	
	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked) {

		var extra_params = '';

		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked);
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'windows_vista_vs_osx_debate_now_up'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};
	
	
	this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {


		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
			}
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/vote.js'
				+ '?post_id='    + id
				+ '&vote='        + vote);
		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login('To rate, please log in');
		}
	};

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {

		Dsq.$('dsq-like-pts-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.';

		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;';
		}
	};




	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {
		var approved = response.message.post_meta.approved;

		if (parent_post_id) {
			Dsq.Post.toggleReply(parent_post_id);
		}

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
		
		if (approved) {
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		} else {			
			var unapproved_msg = 'Thanks for posting!\
	 Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.\
			';
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(unapproved_msg, 'Comment awaiting approval', post_id);
		}

		var sharing_results = response.message.sharing_results;
		var sharing_errors = '';
		for (var service in sharing_results) {
			if (sharing_results.hasOwnProperty(service) === true) {
				if (sharing_results[service].error === true) {
					sharing_errors += service + ', ';
				}
			}
		}

		if (sharing_results.facebook && sharing_results.facebook.callback) {
			FB.ensureInit(function() {
				FB.Connect.streamPublish('', sharing_results.facebook.attachment);
			});
		}

		if (sharing_errors !== '') {
			var message = 'Your comment was posted, but there were errors sharing with the following connections: ';
			message += sharing_errors.replace(/,\s$/, '');
			message += '<p><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections" target="_blank">Configure your connections here</a></p>'
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sharing options');
		}

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.postComment_onFailure = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
};




// TODO: It might be faster to use string methods to find all <li (...) </li> blocks and pass to Dsq.PostHandler manually.
Dsq.CommentsHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_post = Dsq.Templates.prependPost(post_id);
	var append_post = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(post_id);

	content = content.replace(Dsq.POST_RE, Dsq.PostHandler);
	Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter++;
	head = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContainer(post_id, head);
	return prepend_post + head + content + tail + append_post;
};

Dsq.PostHandler = function(str, h_head, post_id, h_content, h_tail, b_head, b_content, b_tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_header = Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader(post_id);
	var append_header = Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader(post_id);
	var prepend_body = Dsq.Templates.preBody(post_id);
	var append_body = Dsq.Templates.postBody(post_id);
	var append_footer = Dsq.Templates.postFooter(post_id);

	b_content = b_content.replace(Dsq.POST_BODY_RE, Dsq.PostBodyHandler);
	return h_head + prepend_header + h_content + append_header + h_tail + b_head + prepend_body + b_content + append_body + b_tail + append_footer;
};

Dsq.PostBodyHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	content = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContent(post_id, content);
	return head + content + tail;
};

Dsq.MediaPostHandler = function(str, args, offset, s) {
	args = args.split(' ');
	if(args[0] == 'seesmic') {
		return '<br />' + Dsq.Templates.mediaSeesmic(args[1], args[2]);
	}
	return '';
};


/**
 * Shorcuts
 */
Dsq.$ = function(element) { return document.getElementById(element); };
Dsq.$b = document.body || document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0];


/**
 * Dsq.Debug: Logging functions.
 */

Dsq.Debug = new function() {this.log=function(s){};this.profile=function(f){if(typeof f == 'function')return f();else return eval(f);};};


/**
 * Dsq.Urls: URL paths
 */
Dsq.Urls = new function() {
	this.LOGIN = '/profile/login/';
	this.LOGOUT = '/logout/';
	this.REPLY = 'http://scobleizer.disqus.com/windows_vista_vs_osx_debate_now_up/reply.html';
	this.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE = '/AnonymousUser/';
	this.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR = 'http://media.disqus.com/images/noavatar92.png';
};
// Dsq.Urls

/**
 * Dsq.Validators: Validation for form fields
 */
Dsq.Validators = new function() {
	this.VALID_EMAIL_RE = /^[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*\@(([a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*)+\.[a-z]{2,}|([0-9]+\.){3}[0-9]+)$/i;
	this.name = function(name) {
		var error = false;

		if(typeof Dsq.Templates.placeholder !== 'undefined' &&
		   name == Dsq.Templates.placeholder.name) {
			error = true;
		}
		if(name.length <= 1) {
			error = true;
		}

		if(error) {
			return "Please enter a name to comment.";
		} else {
			return true;
		}
	};
	this.email = function(addr) {
		if(Dsq.Validators.VALID_EMAIL_RE.test(addr)) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please enter a valid email to comment.";
		}
	};
	this.url = function(addr) {
		if(!addr || addr.indexOf('.') != -1) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please check your website URL (this field is optional).";
		}
	};

	this.validate = function(bulk_validation, failure_callback) {
		failure_callback = failure_callback || function(e){ alert(e); };

		for(var i = 0; i < bulk_validation.length; i++) {
			v = bulk_validation[i];
			ret = v.validator(v.value);
			if(ret !== true) {
				failure_callback(ret);
				return false;
			}
		}
		return true;
	};
};

/**
 * Dsq.Utils: Generic utility functions.
 */
Dsq.Utils = new function() {
	this.ie = /msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent);
	this.ie7 = (document.all && !window.opera && window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true : false;
	this.ie6 = (!window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true: false;
	this.webkit = navigator.userAgent.indexOf('AppleWebKit/') >= 0;
	this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache = {};
	this._styleSheet = null;

	this.gebiFromElement = function(el, id, tag) {
		// This only method only helps IE.
		if(!this.ie) {
			return Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var cacheKey = el.id + '-' + tag;
			tag = tag || 'div';
			if(typeof this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] != 'undefined') {
				collection = this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey];
			} else {
				collection = el.getElementsByTagName(tag);
				this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] = collection;
			}

			for(var i = 0; i < collection.length; i++) {
				if(collection[i].id == id) {
					return collection[i];
				}
			}
			return null;
		}
	};

	this.execOnReady = function(func) {
		var node = document.createElement('document:ready');
		try {
			node.doScroll('left');
			func();
			node = null;
		} catch(err) {
			setTimeout(function() { Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(func); }, 10);
		}
	};


	// Courtesy of http://www.quirksmode.org/js/cookies.html
	this.createCookie = function(name,value,days) {
		if (days) {
			var date = new Date();
			date.setTime(date.getTime()+(days*24*60*60*1000));
			var expires = "; expires="+date.toGMTString();
		}
		else var expires = "";
		document.cookie = name+"="+value+expires+"; path=/";
	};

	this.readCookie = function(name) {
		var nameEQ = name + "=";
		var ca = document.cookie.split(';');
		for(var i=0;i < ca.length;i++) {
			var c = ca[i];
			while (c.charAt(0)==' ') c = c.substring(1,c.length);
			if (c.indexOf(nameEQ) == 0) return c.substring(nameEQ.length,c.length);
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.eraseCookie = function(name) {
		Dsq.Utils.createCookie(name,"",-1);
	};

	this.deleteNode = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			this.deleteChildren(node);
			if(typeof node.outerHTML != 'undefined') { node.outerHTML = ''; }
			else if(node.parentNode) { node.parentNode.removeChild(node); }
			delete node;
		}
	};

	this.deleteChildren = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			for(var x = node.childNodes.length-1; x >= 0; x--) {
				var childNode = node.childNodes[x];
				if(childNode.hasChildNodes()) { this.deleteChildren(childNode); }
				if(typeof childNode.outerHTML != 'undefined') { childNode.outerHTML = ''; }
				else node.removeChild(childNode);
				delete childNode;
			}
		}
	};

	this.findPos = function(obj) {
		var curleft = 0;
		var curtop = 0;
		if (obj.offsetParent) {
			do {
				curleft += obj.offsetLeft;
				curtop += obj.offsetTop;
			} while (obj = obj.offsetParent);
		}
		return [curleft,curtop];
	};

	this.getWindowSize = function() {
		var windowWidth = -1;
		var windowHeight = -1;

		if(typeof(window.innerWidth) == 'number') { //Non-IE
			windowWidth = window.innerWidth;
			windowHeight = window.innerHeight;
		} else if(document.documentElement) { // IE 6+ in 'standards compliant mode'
			windowWidth = document.documentElement.clientWidth || document.body.clientWidth;
			windowHeight = document.documentElement.clientHeight || document.body.clientHeight;
		}

		return [windowWidth, windowHeight];
	}

	this.getScrollPos = function() {
		var scrollWidth, scrollTop;

		if(document.documentElement && (document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.documentElement.scrollWidth)) {
			scrollWidth = document.documentElement.scrollWidth;
			// IE is weird here.  If no doctype is provided, document.body.scrollTop is 0,
			// otherwise document.documentElement.scrollTop is 0.
			scrollTop = document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.body.scrollTop;
		} else if(document.body.scrollTop && document.body.scrollWidth) {
			scrollWidth = document.body.scrollWidth;
			scrollTop = document.body.scrollTop;
		}

		return [scrollWidth, scrollTop];
	}

	this.addEventListener = function(instance, eventName, listener) {
		var listenerFn = listener;
		if (instance.addEventListener) {
			instance.addEventListener(eventName, listenerFn, false);
		} else if (instance.attachEvent) {
			listenerFn = function() {
				listener(window.event);
			};
			instance.attachEvent("on" + eventName, listenerFn);
		} else {
			throw new Error("Event registration not supported");
		}
		return {
			instance: instance,
			name: eventName,
			listener: listenerFn
		};
	};

	this.removeEventListener = function(event) {
		var instance = event.instance;
		if (instance.removeEventListener) {
			instance.removeEventListener(event.name, event.listener, false);
		} else if (instance.detachEvent) {
			instance.detachEvent("on" + event.name, event.listener);
		}
	};

	this.fixIframesIE = function(id) {
		var disqusThread = Dsq.$(disqus_container_id);
		var iframes = disqusThread.getElementsByTagName('iframe');

		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-content');
		}

		for(i = 0; i < iframes.length; i++) {
			if (container) {
				iframes[i].style.width = container.offsetWidth;
			}
		}
	};

	this.getElementsByClassName = function(oElm, strTagName, strClassName) {
	/* Credit: Jonathan Snook [http://www.snook.ca/jonathan], Robert Nyman [http://www.robertnyman.com] */
		var arrElements = (strTagName == "*" && oElm.all)? oElm.all : oElm.getElementsByTagName(strTagName);
		var arrReturnElements = new Array();
		strClassName = strClassName.replace(/\-/g, "\\-");
		var oRegExp = new RegExp("(^|\\s)" + strClassName + "(\\s|$)");
		var oElement;
		for(var i = 0; i < arrElements.length; i++) {
			oElement = arrElements[i];
			if(oRegExp.test(oElement.className)) {
				arrReturnElements.push(oElement);
			}
		}
		return (arrReturnElements);
	};

	this.postToUrl = function(url, post_data, opt_redirect) {
		var form = document.createElement('form');
		var iframe_container = document.createElement('div');
		var id = 'dsq-temp-iframe-' + (new Date()).getTime();

		form.method = 'POST';
		form.action = url;
		if (!opt_redirect) {
			form.target = id;
		}
		iframe_container.innerHTML = '<iframe style="display:none" name="' + id + '" id="' + id + '"></iframe>';

		for(var key in post_data) {
			if(post_data.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var input = document.createElement('input');
				input.name = key;
				input.type = 'hidden';
				input.value = post_data[key];

				form.appendChild(input);
			}
		}

		Dsq.$b.appendChild(iframe_container);
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(form);
		form.submit();
	};

	// Strips integer id from id of element in the form ('some-id-###')
	this.extractId = function(e) {
		var chunks = e.id.split('-');
		if(chunks.length <= 1) {
			return 0;
		} else {
			var retval = parseInt(chunks[chunks.length-1]);
			return !isNaN(retval) ? retval : null;
		}
	};

	this.getStyle = function(el, styleProp) {
		if(el.currentStyle) {
			var y = el.currentStyle[styleProp];
		} else if(window.getComputedStyle) {
			var y = document.defaultView.getComputedStyle(el, null).getPropertyValue(styleProp);
		}

		if(y == 'transparent' || y == '') {
			this.getStyle(el.parentNode, styleProp);
		} else {
			return y;
		}
	};

	this.execScript = function(url, append_qs, container) {
		var script = document.createElement('script');
		append_qs = typeof append_qs == 'undefined' ? true : append_qs;
		container = container || Dsq.container;

		if(append_qs) {
			var j = (url.indexOf('?') >= 0) ? '&' : '?';
			url += j + (new Date()).getTime();
		}
		script.type = 'text/javascript';
		script.charset = 'UTF-8';
		script.src = url;
		container.appendChild(script);
		return script;
	};

	this.pluralize = function(num, singular, plural) {
		return (num != 1) ? plural || 's' : singular || '';
	};

	this.getRequestParams = function(queryString /* optional */) {
		var pairs, tuple;
		var params = {};

		queryString = queryString || window.location.search.substring(1);
		pairs = queryString.split('&');

		for (var i = 0, pair; pair = pairs[i]; i++) {
			tuple = pair.split('=');
			params[tuple[0]] = (tuple[1] || true);
		}

		return params;
	};

	this.addCssRule = function(selector, styleText, index) {
		var stylesheet;
		index = index || 0;

		if(!this._styleSheet) {
			var styleEl = document.createElement('style');
			document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(styleEl);
			this._styleSheet = styleEl.sheet;
			if(!this._styleSheet) {
				// IE does not like our newly created stylesheet.
				this._styleSheet = document.styleSheets[document.styleSheets.length-1];
			}
		}
		stylesheet = this._styleSheet;

		if(stylesheet.insertRule) {
			var ruleText = selector + ' { ' + styleText + ' }';
			if(index == -1) {
				index = stylesheet.cssRules.length;
			}
			stylesheet.insertRule(ruleText, index);
		} else if(stylesheet.addRule) {
			stylesheet.addRule(selector, styleText, index);
		}
	};

	this.forEachIn = function(obj, callback) {
		for(var key in obj) {
			if(obj.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				callback(key, obj[key]);
			}
		}
	};

	this._interpolateGlobalContext = {
		// values that get used a lot and are global to the request
		'profile_url': Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE,

		'disqus_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url,
		'media_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url,
		'request_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.username,
		'request_display_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username,
		'forum_name': Dsq.jsonData.forum.name
	};

	this.renderFromContextStack = function(key, contexts) {
		// Returns the first instance of `key` in the array of objects `contexts` or else ''
		for (var i=0; i<contexts.length; i++) {
			if (contexts[i][key] !== undefined) {
				return String(contexts[i][key]);
			}
		}
		throw new Error('key ' + key + ' not found in context');
	};

	var that = this;
	this.interpolate = function(fmt, opt_localContext) {
		// Interpolate `fmt` named-format string with an assumed global context.
		// Based on `interpolate` in django.views.i18n
		var contextStack = [opt_localContext || {}, that._interpolateGlobalContext];
		return fmt.replace(/%\(\w+\)s/g, function(match){
			return that.renderFromContextStack(match.slice(2,-2), contextStack);
		});
	};

	this.stripTags = function(s) {
		// Removes HTML tags from `s`
		return s.replace(/(<([^>]+)>)/g,"");

	};

	this.assert = function(b) {
		if (!b) {
			throw new Error('Assertion error.');
		}
	};

};
// Dsq.Utils

/**
 * Dsq.Popup: Popup helper functions.
 */
Dsq.Popup = new function() {
	this.timeHide = new Array();
	this.timeShow = new Array();
	this.activePopup = {};
	this.profileCache = {};
	this.statusCache = {};

	this.showTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the hide timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeHide[post_id]);

		// start the timer
		if(!Dsq.Popup.profileIsOn && !Dsq.Thread.adminIsOn) {
			this.timeShow[post_id] = setTimeout("Dsq.Popup.popProfile(\"" + post_id + "\")", 400);
		}
	};

	this.hideTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the show timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeShow[post_id]);
	};

	this.updateProfile = function(username) {
		// Callback from /embed/profile.js
		if (this.statusCache[username]) {
			var statusEl = Dsq.$('dsq-profile-status-' + username);
			statusEl.innerHTML = this.statusCache[username];
			statusEl.style.display = 'block';
		}

		if (this.profileCache[username]) {
			var _cache = this.profileCache[username];

			var _genhtml = function(text) { return '<span><big>' + text + '</big></span>'; };
			var _no_comments = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS(_cache.comments_count));
			var _no_likes = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_LIKES(_cache.likes_count));
			var _no_points = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_POINTS(_cache.points));

			var statsEl = Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + username);
			statsEl.innerHTML = '';

			if (Dsq.jsonData.users[username].registered) {
				statsEl.innerHTML = _no_comments + _no_likes;
			}
			statsEl.innerHTML += _no_points;

			var activeSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.active_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.active_sites[i];
				activeSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (activeSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = activeSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = 'This site.';
			}

			var moderatedSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.moderated_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.moderated_sites[i];
				moderatedSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (moderatedSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + username).innerHTML = moderatedSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + username).innerHTML = '';
			}
		}

		// Reposition popup after full HTML is rendered
		if(Dsq.Popup.activePopup && Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el) {
			Dsq.Popup.initPopup(Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.type);
		}

	};

	this.showCookieMsgs = function() {
		var title = '';
		var message = '';
		var numAlerts = 0;

		Dsq.Utils.forEachIn(Dsq.jsonData.cookie_messages, function(k, v) {
			if (!v) return;

			switch(k) {
				// Cookie: Twitter
				case 'post_twitter':
					if (v === 'error') {
						title = 'Twitter Error!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-error">Oops, we couldn\'t tweet this comment. Please check your <a href="http://disqus.com/account/services">account settings</a>.</li>';
					} else {
						var _msg = v.split(':');
						title = 'Tweeted!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-success">Your comment was successfully tweeted. <a href="http://twitter.com/' + _msg[0] + '/status/' + _msg[1] + '">Click here to view the tweet</a>.</li>';
					}
					break;
				// Cookie: Unapproved Post
				case 'post_not_approved':
					title = 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-not-approved">Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.</li>';
					break;
				// Cookie: Profile Found
				case 'post_has_profile':
					title = 'Use your existing commenter profile';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-has-profile">You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a></li>';
					break;
				case 'user_created':
					var _data = v.split(':');
					title = 'Profile created!';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-user-created">You have just created a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, the best way to claim, manage, and track your comments all over the web. \
					<br /><br />A confirmation is being sent to <strong>' + _data[1] + '</strong>. Please check for this email in order to verify your profile. \
					<ul class="dsq-list-tick"> \
						<li>Your username is <strong>' + _data[0] +'</strong>. <a href="http://disqus.com/people/' + _data[0] + '/" target="_blank">Click here to view your public profile</a>.</li> \
						<li>Be sure to set your profile picture, as well as connect your <span class="dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> and <span class="dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> accounts. <a href="http://disqus.com/account/" target="_blank">Click here for account settings</a>.</li> \
					</ul> \
					</li>'
					break;
				default:
					break;
			}
			numAlerts++;
		});

		if(numAlerts > 1) {
			message = '<ul class="dsq-list-bluebullet">' + message;
			message += '</ul>';
			title = 'Thanks for posting!';
		}
		if(numAlerts > 0) {
			if(typeof(disqus_cookie_msgs) == 'function') {
				disqus_cookie_msgs(message, title);
			} else {
				Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
			}
		}
	};

	this.helpBadges = function(post_id) {
		var html = ' \
			<ul class="dsq-popup-help"> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile with a confirmed email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, but has not yet confirmed his or her email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span> is not logged in with any account and has not claimed his or her comments.</li> \
				<li class="dsq-help-otheraccts">Other accounts</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> is using his or her Facebook profile via Facebook Connect.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> is using his or her Twitter profile via Twitter Sign-in.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-openid">OpenID</span> is using his or her OpenID.</li> \
			</ul> \
		';

		this.popModal(html, 'Help: Types of Commenters', post_id);
		return;
	};

	this.permalink = function(post_id) {
		var header = 'Link to this comment';
		var body = '<strong>You are anchored to</strong>:<br />' + document.location.protocol + '//' + document.location.host + document.location.pathname + document.location.search + '#comment-' + post_id;

		this.popModal(body, header, post_id);
	};

	this.login = function(header, body) {
		var h = header || 'Login or Register';
		var b = body || '';
		b += Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: 'dsq-popup-login'});
		b += '</iframe>'; // HACK: Sometimes there is something funky with the IFRAME SRC that causes no end tag
		this.popModal(b, h, null, true, 'dsq-popup-login');
	};

	this.blacklist = function(id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		var title = 'Add to Blacklist';
		var message = ' \
		Adding this person to the blacklist will block him or her from commenting on this site. Check the following types that you would like to add to the blacklist:'
		+ (userData['registered'] ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-username" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-username"><strong>Username</strong>: ' + userData['username'] + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ (_meta.email ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-email" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-email"><strong>Email address</strong>: ' + _meta.email + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ '<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
			<input id="dsq-blacklist-ip" type="checkbox" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-blacklist-ip-warning\').style.display=\'block\'"> \
			<label for="dsq-blacklist-ip"><strong>IP address</strong>: ' + _meta.ip + '</label> \
		</div> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p id="dsq-blacklist-ip-warning" style="display:none">	\
				Note: Blocking this person\'s IP address may also unintentionally prevent others, who share his/her IP address, from commenting on this site. \
				This may include people who are sharing the same computer, living in the same house, or using the same Internet provider. Only block an IP address as a last resort. \
			</p> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p style="text-align:center"><button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Post.blockUser(' + id + '); this.disabled=true; this.innerHTML=\'Just one moment...\'">Add to Blacklist</button></p> \
		';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
	};

	this.remoteAccountSettings = function() {
		var body = '';
		// Set up IFrame.
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/_auth/embed/remote_settings/';
		var attributes = {id: 'dsq-popup-account-settings'};
		if (typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}

		body = Dsq.Templates._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
		this.popModal(body, 'Account Settings', null, true, 'dsq-popup-account-settings');
	};

	this.popModal = function(message, title, post_id, use_listener, extra_classes) {
		var container = document.createElement('div');
		var header, body;

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);

		if(typeof(title) == 'undefined') { title = ''; }
		if(typeof(use_listener) == 'undefined') { use_listener = true; }

		if(post_id) {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message-' + post_id;
		} else {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message';
		}

		header = title;
		body = message;

		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupModal(header, body);
		Dsq.Popup.initPopup(container, post_id, 'message', extra_classes);
		if(use_listener) {
			Dsq.Popup.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', Dsq.Popup._closePopup);
		}
	};

	this.popAlert = this.popModal;

	this.loading = function(post_id) {
		var title = Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
		var body = '<div style="text-align:center; padding: 5px 0 10px 0"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif" alt="" /></div>'
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
	};

	this.lightbox = function(message, title, post_id) {
		// Wraps Dsq.Popup.popModal

		var overlay = document.createElement('div');
		overlay.id = 'dsq-overlay';
		overlay.className = 'dsq-overlay';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(overlay);
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, post_id, false, 'dsq-lightbox');
	};

	this.popProfile = function(post_id, userKey) {
		var post = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id];
		if (post && post.has_been_anonymized) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('This message was anonymized by its previous owner.', 'Anonymized', post_id);
			return;
		}

		if(post_id) {
			userKey = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id].user_key;	
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][userKey];
		var elId = 'dsq-popup-profile-' + userKey;
		var container = document.createElement('div');

		if(this.activePopup.el) {
			this._closePopup(null, true);
			if(this.activePopup.linkClicked) {
				this.activePopup.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		container.id = elId;
		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupProfile(userKey);

		this.initPopup(container, post_id, 'profile');
		this.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._closePopup);

		if(!this.profileCache[userKey]) {
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/embed/profile.js'
				+ '?username=' + userKey
				+ '&anon=' + (userData['registered'] ? 0 : 1)
				+ '&f=' + Dsq.jsonData['request'].forum);
		} else {
			this.updateProfile(userKey);
		}
	};

	this._closePopup = function(e, force) {
		var activePopup = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el;
		var id = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id;
		var link = 'dsq-avatar-' + id; // HACK: Specific to profile toggle target

		// HACK: This event should be gone if there is no active popup.
		if(!activePopup) {
			return;
		}
		if(force || !Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, activePopup.id)) {
			// TODO: This is breaking iE?
			if(Dsq.Popup.popupListener) {
				Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Popup.popupListener);
			}
			
			// Kill overlay
			var overlay = Dsq.$('dsq-overlay');
			if(overlay) { Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(overlay); }
			
			try {
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(activePopup);
			} catch(e) {
				// HACK: IE6 throws an error when using deleteNode() with a node containing a <table> in the html.
				activePopup.parentNode.removeChild(activePopup);
			}
			Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {};
		}

		if(!force && Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Popup.activePopup.linkClicked = true;
		}

	};

	this.initPopup = function(popup, post_id, type, extra_classes) {
		popup.className = 'dsq-popup dsq-popup-' + type + ' ' + (extra_classes ? extra_classes : '');
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6 || Dsq.Utils.ie7) {
			// HACK: We can't modify the body before it's ready, so we need
			//       to use an IE-safe "DOMReady" workaround before loading
			//       our popup.
			Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(function() {Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup); });
		} else {
			Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup);
		}

		popup.style.display = 'block';

		var xPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[0] - popup.offsetWidth) / 2;
		var yPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[1] - popup.offsetHeight) / 2;

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
			yPos += Dsq.Utils.getScrollPos()[1];
		}

		popup.style.left = xPos + 'px';
		popup.style.top = yPos + 'px';

		Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {
			'el' : popup,
			'id' : post_id,
			'type': type,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};
	};

	this.isClicked = function(e, id) {
		var t = e.target || e.srcElement;
		while(t && t.parentNode) {
			if(t.id == id) {
				return true;
			}

			t = t.parentNode;
		}
		return false;
	};
};
// Dsq.Popup

/**
 * Dsq.Templates
 */
Dsq.Templates = new function() {
	/*
	 * Counter keeping track of the number of posts iterated over.
	 */
	this.postLoopCounter = 0;
	this.filters = {};
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-post-add';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-post-add';

	this.registerTemplate = function(name, func) {
		this['$$_' + name] = func;

		if(typeof DsqLocal.Filters != 'undefined'
		&& typeof DsqLocal.Filters[name] == 'function') {
			// Push filters to this.filters to unify code.
			this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
			this.filters[name].push(DsqLocal.Filters[name]);
		}

		this[name] = function() {
			var ret;

			if(typeof DsqLocal.Templates != 'undefined'
			&& typeof DsqLocal.Templates[name] == 'function') {
				ret = DsqLocal.Templates[name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(ret === undefined) {
				ret = this['$$_' + name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(this.filters[name]) {
				var args = [ret];

				args.push.apply(args, arguments);
				for(var i = 0; i < this.filters[name].length; i++) {
					ret = this.filters[name][i].apply(this, args);
				}
			}

			return ret;
		};
	};

	this.registerFilter = function(name, func) {
		this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
		this.filters[name].push(func);
	};

	/**
	 * Dsq.Templates.Filters
	 */
	this.Filters = new function() {
		this.commentContainer = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var classes = [];
			if(Dsq.jsonData.request.page > 1) {
				classes.push('dsq-append');
			}

			//
			// Extra classes used for custom themes
			//

			if(_meta.depth) {
				classes.push('dsq-comment-child', 'dsq-depth-' + _meta.depth, 'dsq-parent-is-' + _meta.parent_post_id);
			}


			//

			if(_meta.author_is_creator) {
				// TODO: We need to deprecate the "special" class since it is not properly prefixed.
				classes.push('special', 'dsq-special');
			}
			if(_meta.author_is_moderator) {
				classes.push('dsq-moderator');
			}
			classes.push(['dsq-odd', 'dsq-even'][Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter % 2]);

			s = s.substring(0, s.lastIndexOf('>'));
			return s + ' class="dsq-comment ' + classes.join(' ') + '" style="margin-left:' + _meta.depth*30 + 'px">';
		};

		this.commentContent = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			if (_meta.killed) {
				return '<em>Comment removed.</em>';
			} else if (!_meta.approved) {
				return '<em>This comment was flagged for review.</em>';
			}

			s = s.replace(Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE, Dsq.MediaPostHandler);
			return s;
		};
	};

	//
	// Thread
	//
	// TODO: These need to be stripped of all Django template tags.

	this.authPost = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			return '';
		}
		var result = [];
		result = result.concat([
				'<div id="dsq-auth"',
						Dsq.jsonData.integration.reply_position ? 'class="dsq-auth-bottom"' : '',
						'>',
					'<div class="dsq-by">',
						'<a href="http://disqus.com" target="_blank">',
							(Dsq.jsonData.integration.disqus_logo ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/by-disqus.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">') :
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/dsq-button-120x19.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">')
							),
						'</a>',
					'</div>',
					'<div class="dsq-auth-header">',
						'<h3 id="dsq-add-new-comment" class="dsq-h3-addcomment">',
								Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT,
						'</h3>',
						'<div id="dsq-login">',
						(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
								? '<p class="dsq-login-message" id="dsq-login-message">You are commenting as a <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. You may select one to log into:</p>'
								: '')
		]);
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			result = result.concat([
							Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
								'<a id="dsq-login-toggle" href="%(disqus_url)s%(login_url)s?next=article:%(thread_id)s" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsq-profile-btn.png" title="%(log_into)s" alt="%(log_into)s"/></a>',
								{login_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGIN, thread_id: Dsq.jsonData.thread.id, log_into: Dsq.Strings.LOG_INTO_DISQUS}
								),
							'&nbsp; ',
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ?
								'<div id="dsq-fbc-login" onlogin="DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin()" size="medium" background="light" length="short" style="display:inline; margin-right:7px"></div>' :
								''
							),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-twitter-login" class="dsq-twitter-login" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect();" style="display:inline; cursor: pointer"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/twitter-signin-short.png" style="margin-right:7px" /></div>', {}) : ''),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-openid-login" class="dsq-openid-login" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL();" style="display:inline; cursor:pointer;"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/openid-login-button.png"/></div>', {}
								) : '')
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
						'</div>', // dsq-login
					'</div>', // dsq-auth-header
					'<div id="dsq-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated" ',
						Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated ? 'style="display:block"' : '',
						'>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-pic">',
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">' +
																			'<img class="dsq-post-avatar" src="%(avatar_url)s" alt="" /></a>',
																			{avatar_url: Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR,
																			url: (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
																					 ? Dsq.jsonData.request.url
																					 : Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE) }),
						'</div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>', {url:Dsq.jsonData.request.url})
										  )
										: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(profile_url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>')
											)
									),
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">',
									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsqicon12.png" alt="%(logged_in_as)s"/>&nbsp',
											{logged_in_as: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username)})
										: ''),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="%(logout_from_disqus)s">',
											{logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN, logout_from_disqus: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('DISQUS')})
										: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'twitter')
												? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using Twitter (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
												 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
												: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'openid')
													 ? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using OpenID (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
													 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
													 : ''
													)
											)
									),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote ? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('<span class="logo-disqus">DISQUS</span>') : ''),
									'</a>',
								'</li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
		]);
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect) {
			result = result.concat([
					'<div id="dsq-fbc-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated">',
						'<div id="dsq-fbc-profilepic" class="dsq-authenticated-pic" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.ProfilePic" size="square" facebook-logo="true"></div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									'Logged in as <span id="dsq-fbc-name" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.Name" linked="true" useyou="false"></span>',
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">using Facebook Connect <a href="#" onclick="javascript:DisqusFbcParentController.logout();return false;">(Logout)</a></li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
				'</div>', // dsq-auth
				'<div id="dsq-toolbar-items">',
				'</div>'
		]);
		result = result.concat([
					//
					//
					//
				((!Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) ?
					// Needs to be translated:
					('<p id="dsq-no-anon-msg">Required: Please log into <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> ' +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? 'or connect with Facebook ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? 'or sign in with Twitter ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? 'or sign in using OpenID ' : '') +
					Dsq.Utils.interpolate('to comment on <strong>%(forum_name)s</strong>.</p>')) :
					''
				),
				'<div id="dsq-post-add"></div>',
				'<div style="margin:10px 0">',
				((Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media) ?
						'<a href="#" id="dsq-media-link" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, false, \'media\'); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.USE_MEDIA + ' <small>&#9660;</small></a>' :
						''),
				'</div>'
		]);
		return result.join('');
	};


	this.header = function() {

		var html = '\<h3 id="dsq-comments-count" class="dsq-h3-commentcount">\
	 <span id="dsq-num-posts">97</span> Comments\
	 &nbsp;\
	 <span class="dsq-item-feed">\
	 <a href="http://scobleizer.disqus.com/windows_vista_vs_osx_debate_now_up/latest.rss"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png"></a>\
	 </span>\
	 </h3>\
	 <div id="dsq-options" style="margin:15px 0">\
	 <span class="dsq-item-sort">\
	 Sort by\
	 <select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);">\
	 <option value="hot" selected="selected">Popular now</option>\
	 <option value="best" >Best Rating</option>\
	 <option value="newest" >Newest first</option>\
	 <option value="oldest" >Oldest first</option>\
	 </select>\
	 &nbsp;\
	 </span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-cp"><a href="http://scobleizer.disqus.com/windows_vista_vs_osx_debate_now_up/">Community Page</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-subscribe">\
	 <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle">\
	 <span id="dsq-subscribe">\
	 <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a>\
	 </span>\
	 </span>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-alerts">\
	 <p>Comments for this page are closed.</p>\
	 </div>\
		';

		

		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) { 
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-alert-message dsq-upgrade-message"> \
				<strong>Disqus upgrade available.</strong> Hi ' + Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username + ', this message is being displayed to you because you are a moderator of this site. <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-upgrade-message\').style.display=\'block\';this.style.display=\'none\';return false">Click here for details.</a> \
				<div style="display:none; margin-top:10px;" id="dsq-upgrade-message"> \
					A new theme is available with added features. <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/settings/' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url + '/?p=customize">To change your theme, click here</a> and choose the theme Narcissus. \
					If you do not upgrade, you are missing out on features such as: real-time commenting, new sign-in integrations, and an upgrade interface. \
					<strong>This message will automatically go away in one week.</strong> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			' + html; 
		}
		return html;
	};

	this.footer = function() {
		var html = Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.authPost();
		

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		

		return html;
	};

	this.pagination = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) { Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = ''; }
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.thread.paginate) { return ''; }

		//
		// TODO: num_paginator still uses the template tag for pagination, 
		// 		while append_paginator does it all in JavaScript.
		//		This should all be in JavaScript.
		//

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages > 1 && Dsq.jsonData.request.page < Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages) {
			html = ' \<a class="dsq-paginate-append-text" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this); return false">Show more comments...</a>\
	 <button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-paginate-append-button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this);">Load more comments</button>\
			';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = html;
			return '';
		} else {
			return '<div id="dsq-pagination" class="dsq-pagination">' + html + '</div>';
		}
	};

	this.trackbacks = function() {
		var html = '';

		if(typeof DsqLocal != 'undefined' && DsqLocal.trackback_url && DsqLocal.trackbacks) {
			var trackbacks = DsqLocal.trackbacks;
			var trackback_url = DsqLocal.trackback_url;
		} else {
			var trackbacks = [
			
			
			];
			var trackback_url = 'http://scobleizer.disqus.com/windows_vista_vs_osx_debate_now_up/trackback/';
		}

		html += '<div class="dsq-item-trackback">Trackback URL&nbsp;&nbsp;<input class="dsq-trackback-url" onclick="this.select()" readonly="true" value="' + trackback_url + '"></div>';

		if(trackbacks.length) {
			html += '<ul id="dsq-references">'
			for(var i = 0; i < trackbacks.length; i++) {
				var trackback = trackbacks[i];
				html += '<li><cite><a href="' + trackback.author_url + '" rel="nofollow">' + trackback.author_name + '</a></cite> \
						<p class="dsq-meta">' + trackback.date + '</p> \
						<p class="dsq-content">' + trackback.excerpt + '</p></li>';
			}
			html += '</ul>';
			html = '<h3 class="dsq-h3-trackbacks">Trackbacks</h3>' + html;
		}

		return html;
	}

	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		/* Reaction HTML begins */
		var item = '<li class="dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-header-avatar">';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'">';
		} else {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="#" onclick="return false;">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {
			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar32.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png"/>'
			+ '</a></div>'
			+ '<cite><span>' + reaction.author_name + '</span></cite>'
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"><a class="dsq-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</a></span>'
			+ '</div><div class="dsq-reaction-body">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-footer">From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
			+ 'via <a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? 'BackType' : 'UberVU') + '</a>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator ? '&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;<a class="dsq-hide-reaction" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + '); return false;">Hide</a>' : '') + '</div></div>';

		if(reaction.retweets) {
			var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
			if (num_retweets > 0) {
				item += '<div class="dsq-reaction-retweets">';
				if (num_retweets == 1) {
					item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
				} else {
					item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');

					item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
					var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 15) ? 15 : num_retweets;
					item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);

					if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
						item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
							+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
					}
				}
				item += '</div>';
			}
		}

		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this.missingPermissions = function() {
		return '	<p>Comments for this page are closed.</p>\n';
	};

	//
	// Post
	//

	this.prependPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="comment-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-comment-reply-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-header-avatar" id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
				<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
				? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '</a>'
			+ '</div> \
		';
	};

	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];

		return ''
			+ (_meta.author_is_moderator
				? '<img class="dsq-mod-star" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/bullet-star.png" title="Moderator" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"> \
				<a id="dsq-time-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-time" href="#comment-' + post_id + '" title="Permalink">' + _meta.date + '</a> \
			</span>';
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		return '';
	}

	this.postBody = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Deprecate flagging conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		return ''
			+ (_meta.edited
				? '<p class="dsq-editedtxt">(Edited by a moderator)</p>'
				: '')
			;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Use media should be conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed) { return ''; }

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
				<div id="dsq-points-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-likedtxt">'
				+ (_meta.points
					? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.'
					: '')
				+ '</div>'
				+ '<ul class="dsq-comment-options dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.votable
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first dsq-rate" id="dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id + '">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Like</a>'
						: 'You liked this.') + '</li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-report' + (!_meta.votable ? ' dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '"><a href="#" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">Report</a></li> \
				</ul> \
				<ul class="dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first"><a href="#" id="dsq-reply-link-' + post_id +'" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(this, ' + post_id +'); return false;">Reply</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<li id="dsq-edit-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-edit-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="' + (!_meta.can_reply ? 'dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-more-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-more-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'more\'); return false">More <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media
					? '<li id="dsq-media-el-' + post_id +'" style="display:none"><a id="dsq-media-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'media\'); return false">Use Media <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '</ul>'
				+ '<div id="dsq-reply-bar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar" style="display:none"> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-items-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-items"> \
						</div> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-auth-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-auth"> \
							 \
								 \
								 	<a href="#" class="dsq-help dsq-reply-req-opt" title="You are commenting as a Guest. You may choose to log into an existing DISQUS Profile, your Facebook, Twitter or OpenID account to comment on Scobleizer" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Optional:</a> \
								 \
								<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/dsq-favicon-16x16.png" alt="" /> \
								<a id="dsq-reply-login-' + post_id + '" href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:18364935" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">Login</a> \
								 \
									&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img class="fb_login_image" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/images/fbconnect/login-buttons/connect_light_small_short.gif" alt="Facebook Connect"/> \
									<a href="#" onclick="FB.Connect.requireSession(DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin); return false;">Connect</a> \
								 \
								&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/twitter-signin-icon.png" alt="" /> \
									<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false">Sign-in</a> \
								 \
								 \
							 \
						</div> \
					</div> \
					<div id="dsq-reply-' + post_id + '"></div> \
			</div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Iframes
	//

	this._makeAttributes = function(attributes) {
		// Makes a tag attributes string out of an object.
		// Caller is responsible for making sure nothing needs to be escaped.
		var result = [];
		for (key in attributes) {
			result.push(' ' + key + '="' + attributes[key] + '"');
		}
		result = result.join('');
		return result;
	};

	this._frameGeneric = function(base_url, params, attributes) {
		if(typeof(disqus_callback_params) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_callback_params = '';
		}

		var default_params = {
			// TODO: These should be moved to Dsq.jsonData.
			'f'				: 'scobleizer',
			't'				: 'windows_vista_vs_osx_debate_now_up',
			// Do we need encodeURIComponent here?
			'ifrs'			: encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css),
			'to_redirect'	: encodeURIComponent(window.location),
			'cbp'			: disqus_callback_params,
			'ff'			: Dsq.Thread.ff,
			'fc'			: Dsq.Thread.fc,
			'ac'			: Dsq.Thread.ac,
			'default_text'	: disqus_default_text
		};

		base_url += '?' + (new Date()).getTime();
		// Add params to default_params.
		if(params) {
			for(var key in params) {
				if(params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					default_params[key] = encodeURIComponent(params[key]);
				}
			}
		}
		// Build querystring.
		for(var key in default_params) {
			if(default_params[key] && default_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				base_url += '&' + key + '=' + default_params[key];
			}
		}

		return [
			'<iframe marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" hspace="0" vspace="0" frameborder="0"',
			(' allowtransparency="true" src="' + base_url + '"'),
			this._makeAttributes(attributes),
			'</iframe>'].join('');
	};

	this.frameLogin = function(opt_attributes) {
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/login.html';
		var attributes = opt_attributes || {};
		attributes['class'] = 'dsq-post-login';

		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameReply = function(post_id, extra_params, attributes) {
		// Returns the HTML for a reply iframe. Called by Dsq.Iframes.setReplyIframeToContainer
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY;
		var params = {
			'def_email'		: disqus_def_email,
			'def_name'		: disqus_def_name
		};
		if(extra_params) {
			for(var key in extra_params) {
				if(extra_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					params[key] = extra_params[key];
				}
			}
		}
		if(_meta) {
			params['parent_post'] = post_id;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			params['per_page'] = disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			attributes['class'] += '-authenticated';
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameEdit = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/edit.html';
		var params = {
			'p' : post_id
		};
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, {'class': 'dsq-post-edit', 'name': 'dsq-edit_' + post_id + '-frame'});
	};

	//
	// Menus
	//

	this.menuMore = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: "Remove post" button should hide menu.
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')">Link</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Profile</a></li>'
	+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
		? '	<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>' + (_meta.email ? '<li class="dsq-admin-email">' + _meta.email + '</li>' : '')
		+ '	<li class="dsq-admin-ip">' + _meta.ip + '</li> \
			<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>'
		+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
			? ' <li class="dsq-admin-edit"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
			: '')
		+ ' <li class="dsq-remove"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Remove Comment</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-report-spam"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-block-user"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li>'
		: '');
	};

	this.menuMedia = function(post_id) {
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(this, ' + post_id + ', \'seesmic\'); return false;">Record video</a></li> \
		';
	};

	this.dropProfile = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};


		var menu = '<li class="dsq-drop-showlnk"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Expand &#8663;</a></li>';
		var pointsMessage = '';
		if (userData['registered']) {
			pointsMessage = 'with ' + userData['points'] + ' points (more points are better).';
		}

		if (userData['is_remote']) {
			var domain = userData['remote_domain_name'];
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' is a ' + domain + ' user ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
			menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-' + domain.toLowerCase() + '">' + domain + '</span></li>';
		} else if (userData['registered']) {
			if (userData['verified']) {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a verified commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span></li>';
			} else {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a registered, but unverified, commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span></li>';
			}
		} else {
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has not claimed this commenter profile." onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()"><span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span></li>';
		}

		menu += _includeServices();
		return menu;
	};

	//
	// Popups
	//

	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-top"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-body" class="clearfix"> \
				<div class="dsq-popup-body-padding"> \
					<div class="dsq-popup-header"> \
						<a class="dsq-close-link" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/modal-close.png" alt="" /></a>'
						+ content['header']
					+ '</div>'
					+ content['body']
					+ '<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
				</div> <!-- padding --> \
			</div> <!-- body --> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-bottom"></div> \
		</div> \
		';
	};

	this.popupProfile = function(user_key) {
		var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(user_key, null);
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var html = '';
			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == 0
					? '<h4>Connections</h4><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li> \
					<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" title="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" /> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>'
				+ (i+1 == userServices.length ? '</ul>' : '');
			}
			return html;
		};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<table> \
				<tr> \
					<td> \
						<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><img class="dsq-popup-profile-avatar" src="' + userData['avatar'] + '" alt="" /></a> \
					</td> \
					<td> \
						<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user"> \
							<h3>' + userData['display_name'] + '</h3> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats" id="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + user_key + '">Loading...</div> \
						</div> \
					</td> \
				</tr> \
			</table> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-state"> \
				This is a&nbsp;<span class="'
					+ (userData['registered']
						? (userData['verified']
							? ' dsq-badge-verified'
							: (userData['is_remote']
								? ' dsq-badge-' + userData['remote_domain_name'].toLowerCase()
								: ' dsq-badge-registered')
							)
							: ' dsq-badge-guest') + '">'
			+ (userData['registered']
				? (userData['verified']
					? 'Verified'
					: (userData['is_remote']
						 ? userData['remote_domain_name']
						 : 'Registered')
					)
				: 'Guest')
			+ '</span>&nbsp;commenter profile.'
			+ '&nbsp;<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><strong>View more comments </strong></a>'
			+ (!userData['points']
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice">If this is you, <a href="http://disqus.com/profile" target="_blank">claim it now</a> to manage your comments.</p>'
				: '')
			+ ((userData['registered'] && !userData['verified'] && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username == userData['username'])) && !userData['is_remote'])
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice"><strong>Alert</strong>: You have not verified this account. <a href="http://disqus.com/verify">Verify it now.</a></p>'
				: '')
			+ '</div> \
			<div id="dsq-profile-status-' + user_key + '" class="dsq-popup-profile-status" style="display:none"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-snapshot"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td> \
							<div id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Most active sites</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
						<td>'
							+ _includeServices()
							+ '<div id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Moderator of</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupReblog = function() {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<cite><span>Reblog this comment</span></cite> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div id="dsq-reblog-form" class="dsq-reblog-form"> \
			</div> \
		';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupModal = function(title, message) {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<h3>' + title + '</h3> \
		';

		bodyHtml = message;

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.alertContent = function(name, post_id) {
		var alert = {
			'post_not_approved': {
				'title': 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator',
				'message': 'Thanks for posting. Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.'
			},
			'post_has_profile': {
				'title': 'Use your existing commenter profile',
				'message': 'You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> commenter profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a>'
			}
		};
		return alert[name] || false;
	};

	//
	// Actions
	//

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {
		// Update number of points
		Dsq.$('dsq-points-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.';

		// Update link text
		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.';
		}
	};

	this.subscribed = function(status) {
		var title, message;

		if(status) {
			title = 'Subscribed!';
			message = 'You have subscribed to this comment thread. New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox, where you may read and respond by email.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">Unsubscribe</a> \
			';
		} else {
			title = 'Unsubscribed';
			message = 'You have unsubscribed to this comment thread. New comments will no longer be sent to your email inbox.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a> \
			';
		}

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);

	};
	
	this.highlighted = function() {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('This comment has been highlighted.', 'Highlighted comment');
	};

	//
	// Media
	//

	this.mediaSeesmic = function(id, thumb) {
		return ' \
			<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_preview" class="dsq-seesmic-preview"><a href="http://www.seesmic.com/video/' + id + '" target="_blank" class="see_link">&nbsp;</a> \
				<div style="display:block;width:160px; height:120px; border:none; background-image:url(http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/' + thumb + ')"> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_hide" class="seePlayOverlay" style="display:none;"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',false)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/stopOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_show" class="seePlayOverlay"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',true)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/playOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; border:none; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			<div id="' + id + '_content" style="display:block; width:100%; padding-top:5px"></div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Callbacks
	//

	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(parent_post_id) {
		// Increment post count
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');
		
		if (num_posts) { 
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) { 
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
	};
};
// Dsq.Templates


/**
 * Dsq.Post
 */
Dsq.Post = new function() {
	this.openedMenu = {};
	this.menuEventListener = null;
	this.stateReplyToggled = {};
	this.stateEditToggled = {};
	this.stateRecordLink = {};

	/**
	 * Inserts a new post into the document.
	 *
	 * @param after_id {Number}	Insert a post before specified id.  If after_id
	 *							evaluates to false, then post in the front.  If
	 *							after_id is -1, post at the end.
	 */
	this.insert = function(after_id, id, message, author) {
		// Skeleton template from thread_posts.html.
		var skeleton = ' \
			<li id="dsq-comment-%(id)s"> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-header-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-header"> \
					<cite id="dsq-cite-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-cite"> \
						<a id="dsq-author-user-%(id)s" href="%(author_url)s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">%(author_name)s</a> \
					</cite> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-body-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-body"> \
					<div id="dsq-comment-message-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-message">%(message)s</div> \
				</div> \
			</li> \
		';
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var _user_meta = Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key];
		var markup = Dsq.Utils.interpolate(skeleton, {
			id: id,
			message: message,
			author_url: _user_meta.blog,
			author_name: _user_meta.display_name
		});
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		markup = markup.replace(Dsq.COMMENTS_RE, Dsq.CommentsHandler);
		div.innerHTML = markup;

		if (after_id === -1) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').appendChild(div);
		} else if (!after_id) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').insertBefore(div, Dsq.$('dsq-comments').firstChild);
		} else if (Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + after_id)) {
			// Get next node after "after_id", so we can insert before it.
			// If "after_id" is the last comment, the target node is the
			// last node.
			
			// var append_post_id = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(after_id).replace('<div id="','').replace('"></div>', '');
			var append_post_id = 'dsq-append-post-' + after_id;
			var node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			while (node = node.nextSibling) {
				if (!node || node.nodeType == 1) { // 1 == Node.ELEMENT_NODE
					break;
				}
			}
			if (!node) {
				node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			}
			node.parentNode.insertBefore(div, node);
		}
	};

	this.incrementPostCount = function() {
		
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');

		if (num_posts) {
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) {
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
	}
	
	this.outlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className += ' dsq-comment-outline';
		setTimeout("(function () { Dsq.Post.clearOutlineComment(" + post_id + ") })()", 3000);
	};
	
	this.clearOutlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className.replace('dsq-comment-outline', '');
	};

	this.showMenu = function(el, id, name) {
		var anchorPos = Dsq.Utils.findPos(el);
		var menu = document.createElement('ul');

		if(this.openedMenu) {
			if(this.openedMenu.linkClicked) {
				this.openedMenu.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		switch(name) {
			case 'more':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMore(id);
				break;
			case 'media':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMedia(id);
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}

		// Add menu to document body
		menu.id = 'dsq-menu-' + id;
		menu.className = 'dsq-menu';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(menu);

		// Position and show
		anchorPos[1] += 15;
		menu.style.left = anchorPos[0] + 'px';
		menu.style.top = anchorPos[1] + 'px';
		menu.style.display = 'block';

		// Set global reference
		this.openedMenu = {
			'el' : menu,
			'id' : id,
			'name' : name,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};

		// Set listener
		this.menuEventListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._hideMenu);
	};

	this._hideMenu = function(e) {
		var el = e.target || e.srcElement;
		var openedMenu = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el;
		var id = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.id;

		if(!id) {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link';
		} else {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link-' + id;
		}

		if(!openedMenu) {
			return;
		}

		if(!Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, openedMenu.id)) {
			openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Post.menuEventListener);
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(openedMenu);

		} else {
			// Hide the menu if a link was clicked inside the menu.  We can't
			// completely remove the menu until the onclick event on the link
			// fires, but the menuEventListener will prevent multiple menus
			// from polluting the DOM.
			if(el && typeof el.href != 'undefined') {
				openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el = null;
			}
		}

		if(Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Post.openedMenu.linkClicked = true;
		}
	};


	this.getUserServices = function(user_key, id) {
		if(!user_key && id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
			user_key = _meta.user_key;
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var userServices = [];

		// Keep a full list of supported services. This is the order they will display in the drop-profile.
		// Each service must have a corresponding case in _buildServiceUrl()
		var supportedServices = ['blog', 'twitter', 'facebook', 'tumblr'];

		function _buildServiceUrl(serviceName) {
			var data = userData[serviceName];
			var services = {
				blog:		function(d) { return d; },
				twitter:	function(d) { return d; },
				facebook:	function(d) { return d; },
				tumblr:		function(d) { return 'http://' + d + '.tumblr.com'; }
			};
			return services[serviceName](data);
		}

		for(var i = 0; i < supportedServices.length; i++) {
			if(userData[supportedServices[i]]) {
				var serviceUrl = _buildServiceUrl(supportedServices[i]);
				userServices.push({'name' : supportedServices[i], 'url' : serviceUrl});
			}
		}
		return userServices;
	}

	this.dropProfile = function(id) {
		var dp = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-profile-' + id);

		// IE6 needs JS to display/hide. All other browsers use CSS.
		if(dp) {
			if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) dp.style.display = (dp.style.display == 'inline') ? 'none' : 'inline';
			return false;
		} else {
			dp = document.createElement('ul');
		}

		dp.id = 'dsq-drop-profile-' + id;
		dp.className = 'dsq-drop-profile';

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) { dp.style.display = 'inline'; }

		var container = Dsq.$('dsq-header-avatar-' + id);
		dp.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.dropProfile(id);
		container.appendChild(dp);
	};

	this.dropProfileMore = function(el, id) {
		var hiddenItems = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-hidden-' + id);

		hiddenItems.style.display = 'inline';
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
	};

	this._updateReplyLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "reply / cancel" links based on state.
		var displayDict = {};

		if(id) {
			if(this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				el.innerHTML = 'Cancel';
				displayDict['media'] = 'inline';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'none';
			} else {
				el.innerHTML = 'Reply';
				displayDict['media'] = 'none';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'inline';
			}
		}

		for(var key in displayDict) {
			if(displayDict.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var	linkEl = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-el-' + id),
					spacer = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-spacer-' + id);

				if(linkEl) {
					linkEl.style.display = displayDict[key];
					if(spacer) spacer.style.display = displayDict[key];
				}
			}
		}
	};

	this._updateMediaLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "use media / cancel" links based on state.
		var appendId = (id) ? ('-' + id) : '';
		var link = Dsq.$('dsq-media-link' + appendId);

		if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			link.innerHTML = 'Cancel Media';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(link, id); return false; };
		} else {
			link.innerHTML = 'Use Media <small>&#9660;</small>';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.showMenu(link, id, 'media'); return false; };
		}
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(el, id) {
		// Create reply IFrame
		if (window.disqus_use_postmessage) {
			if (!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				// Create IFrame if it doesn't exist.
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-frame-' + id), id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].init();
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].setState(id, _meta.depth);
				}
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
			}
		} else {
			// DEPRECATED
			if(!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				// Reply toolbar
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id), id);
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Iframes.hideAllInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id));
				if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
					// HACK: Cancel media before canceling self.
					this.toggleMediaReply(Dsq.$('dsq-media-link-' + id), id);
				}
			}
		}

		this.stateReplyToggled[id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[id];
		this._updateReplyLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-reply-' + id); }

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[id]
		});
	};

	this.toggleMediaReply = function(el, id, xtype) {
		id = id || 0;
		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(!this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id, {xtype:xtype}, 'dsq-post-video');
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id);
		}
		this.stateRecordLink[id] = !this.stateRecordLink[id];
		this._updateMediaLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};

	this.edit = function(el, id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.frameEdit(id);
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-comment-message-' + id); }
	};

    this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
                Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
            }

            Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/vote.js'
                + '?post_id='    + id
                + '&vote='        + vote);

		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login(Dsq.Strings.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN);
		}
    };

	this.report = function(id, confirmed) {
		if(confirmed) {
			Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/windows_vista_vs_osx_debate_now_up/post_report/', {'post_id': id});
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Thank you. This comment has been flagged for moderator attention.', 'Successfully flagged');
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$('dsq-post-report-' + id));
		} else {
			var title = Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT;
			var message = Dsq.Strings.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR + '? \
			<br /><br /> \
			<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.NO + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.NEVER_MIND + '</button>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + id + ', true);"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.YES + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT + '</button><br /><br />'
			+ Dsq.Strings.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION + '. \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, id);
		}
	};



	this.showAlert = function(id, msg) {
		var msgEl = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id);
		var alert = '<div class="dsq-comment-alert">' + msg + '</div>';

		msgEl.innerHTML = alert + msgEl.innerHTML;
	};

};
// Dsq.Post


/**
 * Dsq.Thread
 */
Dsq.Thread = new function() {
	this.fc = null;
	this.ff = null;
	this.ac = null;

	
	this.adminIsOn = false;

	
	
	

	this.hlComment = null;
	this.hlCommentClass = null;

	this.getNextComment = function(el) {
		var start_id = el.id;
		while(el = el.nextSibling) {
			if(el.id && el.id.indexOf('dsq-comment-') != -1 && el.id != start_id) {
				return el;
			}
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.getActiveCommentId = function() {
		if (document.URL.indexOf('#comment-') >= 0) {
			var anchor = document.URL.slice(document.URL.indexOf('#') + 1);
			return anchor.replace('comment-', '');
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.highlightAnchor = function() {
		var i = this.getActiveCommentId();
		if (i == null) return false;
		var id = 'dsq-comment-' + i;
		var hash = window.location.hash;

		// Toggle the hash incase the comment isn't available when the page loads
		// for WebKit-based browsers.
		if (Dsq.Utils.webkit) {
			window.location.hash = '';
			window.location.hash = hash;
		}

		this.hlComment = Dsq.$(id);
		// Adding this conditional guard pending #289
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlCommentClass = this.hlComment.className;
		this.hlComment.className += ' dsq-hl-anchor';

		setTimeout("Dsq.Thread.highlightClear()", 3000);
	};

	this.highlightClear = function() {
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlComment.className = this.hlCommentClass;
	};

	this.login = function(toggle) {
		// toggle id is #dsq-reply-login-[id]
		var postId;
		if(toggle.id.indexOf('dsq-reply-login') != -1) {
			postId = toggle.id.slice(16);
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + postId);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(toggle) {
			if(toggle.className == 'dsq-login-active') {
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(container, postId);
				toggle.className = '';
			} else {
				Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
				toggle.className = 'dsq-login-active';
			}
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
		}

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};


	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked, per_page) {
		// Use extra_params to pass any override parameters that we need to persist.
		var extra_params = '';

		// "Per page" can either be overriden by providing it as an argument
		// (per-call) or setting the disqus_per_page override variable (global).
		if(typeof per_page == 'undefined') {
			per_page = null;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined' && per_page === null) {
			per_page = disqus_per_page;
		}

		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}
		if(per_page !== null) {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + per_page;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			el_clicked.style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'windows_vista_vs_osx_debate_now_up'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};

	this.sortBy = function(sort) {
		var disqus_script = document.createElement('script');
		var disqus_date = new Date();

		if (location.hash != '') {
			location.hash = '#disqus_thread';
		}

		if(typeof(disqus_url) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_url = disqus_href;
		}
		disqus_script.type = 'text/javascript';
		disqus_script.src = 'http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'windows_vista_vs_osx_debate_now_up'
			+ '&sort='	+ sort
			+ '&title='
			+ '&'		+ disqus_date.getTime();

		Dsq.$('dsq-comments').innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif">';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(disqus_script);
	};

	this.subscribe = function(status, email) {
		// `status` is an int -- 1 to subscribe, 0 to unsubscribe
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || email) {
			// If authenticated user OR anonymous email provided

			if(email) {
				Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
			}

			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/subscribe.js'
				+'?status=' 	+ status
				+ '&slug='		+ 'windows_vista_vs_osx_debate_now_up'
				+ '&email=' 	+ encodeURIComponent(email));

		} else if(!email) {
			// If anonymous user and no email has been provided yet, prompt for email

			var title = 'Subscribe to this comment thread';
			var message = ' \
				New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox! \
				<div class="dsq-subscribe-submit"> \
					<p><strong>Enter your email address below.</strong></p> \
					<input type="text" id="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
					<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1, Dsq.$(\'dsq-subscribe-email\').value)">Subscribe</button> \
				</div> \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
		}
	};

	this.showSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return;
		}

		/* The form has to be re-designed when more options will come out. */
		var html = 'Automatically close comments after <input size="3" id="dsq-thread-days-alive" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.days_alive + '" type="text" /> days. Existing comments will still be displayed.<br /><br />(Using 0 days will disable this feature)<br /><br />'
								 + '<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.updateDaysAlive();" class="dsq-button-small"><span>Save</span></button>'
								 + '<span id="dsq-thread-settings-status" class="dsq-options-status"></span>';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Settings');
	};

  this.showModeratorActions = function() {
      if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
          return;
      }

      var html = '<div class="dsq-moderate-options"><table><tr>' +
                 '<td>' + Dsq.Strings.ACTIONS + '</td><td><ul>';
      html += '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.toggleClosed(); return false;">' +
              (Dsq.jsonData.thread.closed ? Dsq.Strings.OPEN_THREAD : Dsq.Strings.CLOSE_THREAD) +
              '</a></li>';
      html += '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.toggleKilled(); return false;">' +
              (Dsq.jsonData.thread.killed ? Dsq.Strings.RESTORE_THREAD : Dsq.Strings.REMOVE_THREAD) +
              '</a></li>';
      html += '</ul></td></tr></table></div>' +
              '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate-threads/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
      Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, Dsq.Strings.MODERATE_OPTIONS);
  };

	this.updateDaysAlive = function() {
		  var days = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-days-alive').value;
		  var status = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-settings-status');
		  Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/update_days_alive.js', {days:days,thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
		  status.innerHTML = 'Saved!';
		  window.setTimeout(function() { status.innerHTML = ''; }, 1000);
	};

  this.toggleClosed = function() {
      Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/toggle_thread_closed.js', {thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
      window.setTimeout(function() { window.location.reload(); }, 500);
  };

  this.toggleKilled = function() {
      Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/toggle_thread_killed.js', {thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
      window.setTimeout(function() { window.location.reload(); }, 500);
  };
};
// Dsq.Thread

Dsq.Events = function() {
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var handlers = {};
	var getHandlers = function(event) {
		if (handlers[event] === undefined) {
			handlers[event] = [];
		}
		return handlers[event];
	};

	// Public
	// Value keys : postId, node, xtype
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED = 1;
	// Value keys : postId, opened
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED = 2;
	obj.fire = function(event, opt_value) {
		if (!event) {
			throw new Error('Unknown event');
		}
		var value = opt_value || {};
		for (var i=0; i<getHandlers(event).length; i++) {
			getHandlers(event)[i](value);
		}
	};
	obj.addHandler = function(event, callback) {
		getHandlers(event).push(callback);
	};

	return obj;
}();

/**
 * Dsq.Realtime
 */
Dsq.Realtime = new function() {
	var initialized = false;
	var interval = null;
	var last_checked = Dsq.jsonData.request.timestamp;
	var new_posts = [];
	var ongoing_request = false;
	var prev_script = null;

	function updateNewPostCount() {
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-alert').style.display = new_posts.length ? 'block' : 'none';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-queued').innerHTML = new_posts.length
		+ ' new '
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, 'comment', 'comments')
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, ' was', ' were')
		+ ' just posted.';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.SHOW + ')';
	}

	function insertNewPosts() {
		var post_id = null;
		var after_id = Dsq.$('dsq-sort-select').value === 'oldest' ? -1 : null;

		for (var i=0; i<new_posts.length; i++) {
			post_id = new_posts[i];
			Dsq.Post.insert(after_id, post_id, Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id].message);
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		}
		new_posts = [];
	}

	this.enableInterval = function() {
		interval = setInterval(Dsq.Realtime.check, Dsq.jsonData.context.realtime_speed);
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.ENABLED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.PAUSE + ')';
	}

	this.disableInterval = function() {
		if (interval) {
			clearInterval(interval);
			interval = null;
		}
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.PAUSED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.RESUME + ')';
	}

	this.toggleInterval = function() {
		if (!interval) {
			Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
		} else {
			Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
		}
		return false;
	}

	this.initialize = function() {
		if (!initialized) {
			initialized = true;
			Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').onclick = this.toggleInterval;
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').onclick = this.show;
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
			if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.realtime_paused) {
				Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
			} else {
				Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
			}
		}
	}

	this.show = function() {
		insertNewPosts();
		updateNewPostCount();
		return false;
	}

	this.check = function() {
		if (!ongoing_request && Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			if (prev_script) {
				prev_script.parentNode.removeChild(prev_script);
			}
			ongoing_request = true;
			prev_script = Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/18364935/realtime.js?timestamp=' + last_checked);
		}
	};

	this.update = function(timestamp, posts, users) {
		ongoing_request = false;
		last_checked = timestamp;

		if (users) {
			for (var user_id in users) {
				if (users.hasOwnProperty(user_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id] = users[user_id];
					}
				}
			}
		}

		if (posts) {
			for (var post_id in posts) {
				if (posts.hasOwnProperty(post_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] = posts[post_id];
						new_posts.push(post_id);
					}
				}
			}

			if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				insertNewPosts();
			} else {
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
		}
	};

}();

// DEPRECATED
Dsq.Iframes = function() {
	// Different style of object from the above. Hoping to switch to this for some reason.
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var showIframeInContainer = function(container, id, markup) {
		// Look through container for iframes, hiding them, except show one that matches id
		// If none of them matched id, create a new iframe using markup and insert it.
		// Returns the iframe node if and only if it was newly created.
		var found = false;
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				if (child.id == id) {
					child.style.display = 'block';
					found = true;
				} else {
					child.style.display = 'none';
				}
			}
		}
		if (found) {
			return;
		}
		// The iframe wasn't found, so construct it and add it to the container.
		// Don't use innerHTML because it might reload iframes
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		div.innerHTML = markup;
		var iframe = div.childNodes[0];
		div.removeChild(iframe);
		container.appendChild(iframe);
		return iframe;
	};

	// Public
	obj.makeReplyIframeId = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var id = 'dsq-post-add-iframe';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			id += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			id += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return id;
	};
	obj.makeLoginIframeId = function(opt_postId) {
		if (!opt_postId) {
			return 'dsq-login-iframe';
		}
		return 'dsq-login-iframe-' + opt_postId;
	};
	obj.makeReplyIframeName = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var name = 'dsq-reply-frame';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			name += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			name += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return name;
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId, opt_extraParams, opt_className) {
		// Construct the id so we can check if it's already present.
		// Hide any other iframes we find, and show this one if it's found.
		var params = opt_extraParams || {};
		// use xtype in the id and name so we can distinguish media replies from text replies:
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeId(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var name = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeName(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var attributes = {
			'id': id,
			'name': name,
			'class': opt_className || 'dsq-post-reply'
			};
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameReply(opt_postId, opt_extraParams, attributes);
		var iframe = showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
		// It was newly created
		if (iframe) {
			Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED, {
				postId: opt_postId,
				node: iframe,
				xtype: params.xtype
			});
		}
	};
	obj.showLoginIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId) {
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeLoginIframeId(opt_postId);
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: id});
		showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed = function(container, opt_postId) {
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			obj.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, opt_postId);
		} else {
			obj.hideAllInContainer(container);
		}
	};
	obj.hideAllInContainer = function(container) {
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				child.style.display = 'none';
			}
		}
	};

	return obj;
}();

Dsq.Twitter = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.startTwitterConnect = function() {
		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=400';
		that._twitterWindow = window.open(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/twitter/begin/', 'twitterWindow', popupParams);
		that._twitterInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeTwitterConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeTwitterConnect = function() {
		if (that._twitterWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._twitterInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.Yahoo = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.startYahooConnect = function() {
		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=400';
		that._yahooWindow = window.open(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/yahoo/begin/', 'yahooWindow', popupParams);
		that._yahooInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeYahooConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeYahooConnect = function() {
		if (that._yahooWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._yahooInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.OpenID = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.requestURL = function() {
		var message = '<table class="dsq-openid-form"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;" rowspan="2"><img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url + '/images/openid-icon-100x100.png" /></td>';
		message += '<td><label for="dsq-openid-url">OpenID URL:</label></td><td><input type="text" id="dsq-openid-url" /></td></tr>';
		message += '<tr><td><label for="dsq-openid-username">Display name:</label></td><td><input type="text" id="dsq-openid-username" /></td></tr>';
		message += '<tr><td class="dsq-openid-submit" colspan="3"><input type="button" value="Sign in" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.startConnect();" /></td></tr>';
		message += "</table>";

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sign in using OpenID');
	};

	this.startConnect = function() {
		var isblank = function(str) {
			return /^\s*$/.test(str);
		};

		var openid_url = Dsq.$('dsq-openid-url').value;
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-openid-username').value;

		if (isblank(openid_url)) {
			return;
		}

		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=500';
		var url = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/openid/begin/' + '?url=' + encodeURIComponent(openid_url) + '&username=' + encodeURIComponent(username);
		that._openidWindow = window.open(url, 'openidWindow', popupParams);
		that._openidInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeConnect = function() {
		if (that._openidWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._openidInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.Reaction = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.hide = function(id) {
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/hidereaction.js?' + 'reaction_id=' + id);
	};

	this.reportMissingReactions = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled) {
			return;
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.queued) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Your report has been received. The system will automatically search for new reactions; if any are found, they will be displayed on this comment thread.<br/><br/>Thank&nbsp;you.',
												 'Reported missing reactions');
			return;
		}

		Dsq.Utils.execScript(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/forums/scobleizer/queueurl.js');
	};
};

Dsq.CNN = function() {
	var obj = {};

	obj.authenticate = function() {
		var url = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + "/saml/cnn/try/";
		Dsq.Utils.postToUrl(url, {'target': document.location}, true);
	};

	return obj;
}();


if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
	(function() {
		DSQ_HEADER_AVATAR_RE = /<div class="dsq-header-avatar"(.*?)>/gim;
		Dsq.Templates.registerFilter('postPrependHeader', function(html, post_id) {
			// Add "onmouseout" for dsq-header-avatar for dropProfile
			// functionality since IE6 cannot use :hover.
			function _headerAvatarReplace(content, inner, _unused, html) {
				return '<div class="dsq-header-avatar" '
					+ inner
					+ ' onmouseout="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')">';
			}
			html = html.replace(DSQ_HEADER_AVATAR_RE, _headerAvatarReplace);
			return html;
		});
	})();
}





	// TODO: Move Seesmic code outside of the main script.  Don't let this script clobber the global namespace.
	if(typeof seesmic == 'undefined') { var seesmic = {}; }
	seesmic.widget = new function () {
		this.callback = function (data) {
			playerVersion = data.disqusplayer;
		};
	};

	
	var scriptEl = document.createElement('script');
	scriptEl.setAttribute('type', 'text/javascript');
	scriptEl.setAttribute('src', 'http://seesmic.com/version.js?callback=seesmic.widget.callback');
	document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(scriptEl);

	
	var scriptEl = document.createElement('script');
	scriptEl.setAttribute('type', 'text/javascript');
	scriptEl.setAttribute('src', 'http://media.disqus.com/javascript/library/swfobject.js');
	document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(scriptEl);

	function see_play_video(_videoUri, _add) {
		var swf = !!playerVersion ? playerVersion : 'http://seesmic.com/embeds/StandalonePlayer.swf';

		flashcontentDiv = Dsq.$(_videoUri + '_content');
		previewDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-seesmic-' + _videoUri + '_preview');
		hideDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-seesmic-' + _videoUri + '_hide');
		showDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-seesmic-' + _videoUri + '_show');
		if(_add) {
			// push flash widget
			var so = new SWFObject(swf, 'sotester', '300', '270', '9', '#000000');
			so.addVariable('video', _videoUri);
			so.addParam('allowFullScreen', 'true');
			so.addParam('allowScriptAccess','always');
			so.useExpressInstall('swfobject/expressinstall.swf');
			so.write(_videoUri + '_content');

			previewDiv.style.display = 'none';
			hideDiv.style.display = 'block';
			showDiv.style.display = 'none';
		}
		else {
			flashcontentDiv.innerHTML = '';
			previewDiv.style.display = 'block';
			hideDiv.style.display = 'none';
			showDiv.style.display = 'block';
		}
	};





(function() {
	//
	// Load theme.  This overrides the base templates with template functions
	// from the respective themes.
	//
	if (Dsq.jsonData.integration.theme == 4) {
		var theme = 'narcissus';
		// HACK: Set variable on window to use post message.
		window.disqus_use_postmessage = true;

		
		for(var prop in Dsq.Themes[theme]) {
			if(Dsq.Themes[theme] && Dsq.Themes[theme].hasOwnProperty(prop)) {
				Dsq.Templates[prop] = Dsq.Themes[theme][prop];
			}
		}
		
		for(var prop in Dsq.Post) {
			if(Dsq.Themes[theme] && Dsq.Themes[theme].hasOwnProperty(prop)) {
				Dsq.Post[prop] = Dsq.Themes[theme][prop];
			}
		}
	}

	//
	// Register templates.  This must be done after all themes are loaded.
	//
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('authPost', Dsq.Templates.authPost);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('header', Dsq.Templates.header);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('footer', Dsq.Templates.footer);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('trackbacks', Dsq.Templates.trackbacks);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('reactions', Dsq.Templates.reactions);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('prependPost', Dsq.Templates.prependPost);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('appendPost', Dsq.Templates.appendPost);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postPrependHeader', Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postAppendHeader', Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('preBody', Dsq.Templates.preBody);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postBody', Dsq.Templates.postBody);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postFooter', Dsq.Templates.postFooter);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('_popupGeneric', Dsq.Templates._popupGeneric);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('voted', Dsq.Templates.voted);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('popupProfile', Dsq.Templates.popupProfile);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postBox', Dsq.Templates.postBox);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('pagination', Dsq.Templates.pagination);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postComment_onSuccess', Dsq.Templates.postComment_onSuccess);

})();

Dsq.container.className = "clearfix";
Dsq.container.innerHTML = ' \
<ul id="dsq-comments">\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669319">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669319" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669319" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669319" href="http://www.mockriot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Josh</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669319" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669319" class="dsq-comment-message">Well, I enjoyed the first hour.  Onward to the second (it\'s 4:45am where I am, by the way, and I am sitting here watching this video).  This is a great group.  I hope you can get these guys together again for some more discussions--I even enjoyed the tangents.<br><br>One suggestion: get some lapel mics.  It is especially difficult to hear you from behind the camera, Robert (particularly on crappy laptop speakers).</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669320">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669320" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669320" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669320" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669320" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669320" class="dsq-comment-message">Josh: I\'m listening too. I have crappy speakers too. It\'s interesting that you say you have a hard time hearing me. I don\'t have a hard time hearing on my system. Weird.<br><br>Lapel mics are VERY hard to deal with when you have five or six people.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669322">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669322" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669322" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669322" href="http://thegoreyears.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">thegoreyears</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669322" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669322" class="dsq-comment-message">I love Scoble.<br><br>I say this, because I met Scoble once, and thought he was cool. It was at a Marc Canter party, and Scoble showed me a preview of an MS thing that was based on --- gosh, what do we call that now, Mr. S? Failed laptop?<br><br>Anyway, no worries.<br><br>We just keep driving on. We keep pushing on. We keep...<br><br><a href="http://thegoreyears.wordpress.com/2007/01/31/why-rex-grossmans-eyebrows-are-the-new-black/" rel="nofollow">http://thegoreyears.wordpress.com/2007/01/31/wh...</a><br><br>I</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669330" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669330" href="http://blogtheinternet.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Garry Conn</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669330" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669330" class="dsq-comment-message">I personally like Windows Vista better. But I am not impressed that it took so many years to produce and during that time Mac had a more stable and secure operating system.<br><br>Mac is great! Don\'t get me wrong... but the reality of the situation is that Windows is installed into I would guess 8 out of 10 personal computers... It\'s probably 9 out of 10... but I will say 8.<br><br>Windows is the most popular operating system. If it is the best one to use... I don\'t know? I just know that I enjoy using it and I am more comfortable using Windows over Mac because of how many countless hours, days, week, months, and years I have used Windows.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669321" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669321" href="http://www.theangrymarkus.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">markus</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669321" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669321" class="dsq-comment-message">i\'d love to have this conversation as a podcast :)</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669326">Joe</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669326" class="dsq-comment-message">It actually took MS 2 and one half years to create Vista after they had to start from scratch, when they realised that basing Vista on the XP kernel would\'t work, but thats ok, I love Vista and will be upgrading my hardware to take advantage.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669327">Olav</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669327" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669327" class="dsq-comment-message">I loved it.<br><br>Robert, I think your content is great, but I think you have to make it available in other formats. WMV would be great, so I could just download it onto my Media Center and watch it while I\'m having dinner.<br><br>Watching 2 hours of video, flash size, on my desktop PC is not confortable. I enjoyed it, but I won\'t watch this kind of video on my desktop PC again.<br><br>I actually download Channel 9 and <a href="http://On10.net" rel="nofollow">On10.net</a> videos to my Media Center a lot, and that\'s confortable.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669328">Will</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669328" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669328" class="dsq-comment-message">I second that.<br><br>Would be really good to get WMV/QT of all videos, but these especially.<br><br>Looks like its gonna be a fun old time :D</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669331" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669331" href="http://www.mockriot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Josh</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669331" class="dsq-comment-message">Well, the second video lived up the hype. Thoroughly enjoyable stuff.<br><br>Robert, perhaps it is just these speakers (the speakers on this new VAIO are even worse than the ones on my old Dell).  What if Maryam just held a boom mic the whole time? ;) (kidding, kidding)</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669325">mvm</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669325" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669325" class="dsq-comment-message">The MS marketing dept. made a big mistake on the prices for the UK (and Europe), 2x the price of the US prices! Not a good way to encourage people to upgrade or prevent them from moving over to OSX. After the years of R&amp;D spend I would have thought MS would be keen to see a large uptake on the product to get some return. Big debate on BBC website about it at the moment (1.5K comments), plus Mr Gates was asked the price diff questions on UK news as he is over here at the moment but was unclear on the reasons, usual exchange rate/packaging rubbish (let us download on a global basis, only need a key via email!).<br><br><a href="http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=5388&amp;&amp;edition=2&amp;ttl=20070131122023" rel="nofollow">http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?thr...</a></div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669323" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669323" href="http://joesvideoetc.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">JoeC</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669323" class="dsq-comment-message">See Steve Garfield\'s Video Blog for an absolutely perfect representation of the Vista experience. When will MS ever learn?<br><br><a href="http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2007/01/unboxing_a_wind.html" rel="nofollow">http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2007/0...</a></div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669324" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669324" href="http://managetime.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">managetime</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669324" class="dsq-comment-message">For a moment there, I thought you said Vista vs OS2, and I did a double take.<br><br>Time to get the popcorn and chips and pizza and settle down to a nice movie!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669329" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669329">John Lockwood</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669329" class="dsq-comment-message">Garry Conn makes the same old mistake regarding the meaning of the word \'Popular\'.<br><br>Popular means - "liked, admired, or enjoyed by many people or by a particular person or group".<br><br>Windows is by no stretch of the imagination LIKED or ENJOYED :-)<br><br>What Garry Conn probably meant to say is Windows is the most common operating system.<br><br>It would therefore be accurate to say that common in this context means - occurring, found, or done often; prevalent. This would indeed apply to Windows.<br><br>However one could equally use the following alternate meanings for common when describing Windows.<br><br>Common - ordinary; of ordinary qualities<br>Common - showing a lack of taste and refinement<br><br>Or<br><br>Common as muck<br><br>But absolutely, positively, definitely, not Popular.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669404" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669404" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669404" class="dsq-comment-message">John: I totally disagree. Windows is popular all over the world. Just because YOU don\'t like it doesn\'t make it not popular. Here\'s a picture of hundreds of people waiting in line to buy Windows Vista: <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/WindowsNow-RobertMcLaws/%7E3/84378300/phoenix-launch-wrap-up.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/WindowsNow-Rober...</a></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669405">Steve</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669405" class="dsq-comment-message">I will be interested in seeing another conversation once Leopard is out, so that we can hear about the newest features and distinctions, rather than ancient history. Get Dan Dilger (Roughly Drafted); he would be a more elequent and insightful advocate from the Mac side. The Vista guys were doing just fine.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669406" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669406" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669406" class="dsq-comment-message">Steve: I\'d love to do another dinner when Leopard comes out.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669411">met</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669411" class="dsq-comment-message">Is it more difficult to find guys for the Windows side than the Mac side, Scoble?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669409" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669409" href="http://www.bynkii.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">John C. Welch</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669409" class="dsq-comment-message">Don\'t do it as WMV OR QuickTime. For the love of dog, use MPEG-4. Everyone can view it. It\'s universal, and while not as pretty as h.264, it\'s not as hardware intensive either.<br><br>But dude...you get the head of a MUG on one side and the editor in chief of PC World on the other?<br><br>Because I hear there\'s this magazine called "Macworld", who has an editor in chief named Jason Snell, who, from rumor, can, on occasion, hold a discussion or two, and even has.<br><br>There\'s also John Gruber, from Daring Fireball, <a href="http://daringfireball.net/" rel="nofollow">http://daringfireball.net/</a> who is quite good, and fun to listen to as well.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669402" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669402" href="http://www.bynkii.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">John C. Welch</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669402" class="dsq-comment-message">Yeah, Microsoft won, that\'s why Ballmer craps his drawers when you say "Linux" and has to threaten to sue Linux users to keep his lead.<br><br>I\'m sure IBM thought they had won circa 1981 or so.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669394">zatoichi</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669394" class="dsq-comment-message">refreshing to see that this level of gaping ignorance can still be found....</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669396">zatoichi</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669396" class="dsq-comment-message">comment was re: T. Maschas</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669397" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669397" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669397" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669397" class="dsq-comment-message">John: you obviously didn\'t listen to the two hours of tape. If you had, you wouldn\'t be asking for more representation of the Mac side of the fence. It was Windows Vista day and even Harry McCracken admitted he uses a Mac.<br><br>But, yeah, it would be fun to have a conversation with the ones you recommended too. I hear Apple has something new coming out soon, so that\'ll be an opportunity to pull out more Mac-oriented people there too.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669398" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669398" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669398" class="dsq-comment-message">My latest videos are already available as MP4 download. Just visit <a href="http://www.scobleshow.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.scobleshow.com</a> and look for the icons to download.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669399">John Lockwood</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669399" class="dsq-comment-message">Robert, you are also equating common with popular. Yes Windows is common all around the world but far, far fewer people LIKE it.<br><br>Here are some articles that would seem to suggest people have not been trampled in the rush (for Vista).<br><br><a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070130/microsoft_vista_launch.html?.v=25" rel="nofollow">http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070130/microsoft_vista_...</a><br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/technology/AP-Microsoft-Vista-Launch.html?_r=2&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/technology/AP-M...</a><br><a href="http://news.com.com/Vistas+actual+launch+Think+whisper%252C+not+bang/2100-1016_3-6154473.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.com.com/Vistas+actual+launch+Think+...</a><br><br>Compare the above to the Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger launch see <a href="http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0%2C2125%2C67398%2C00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,67398,00.html</a> which says "On Friday, April 29, more than 1,000 people queued up for the Tiger launch in both the Tokyo and London Apple stores". Remember there are are far fewer Mac users than Windows, and yet the queues were over ten times as long as the [allegedly] long queue in Phoenix you referred to. THAT\'S being popular (if not common).<br><br>Note to Robert, while you may deduce I am a Mac user I do also run Microsoft Media Center 2005 on one of my own computers and have used Windows since 3.0. As a Mac user I would willing agree MCE 2005 is currently superior to Front Row and Apple TV, however the DRM in Vista Media Center is so user hostile I have been put off upgrading to it (not to mention - ok I will mention the fact it costs twice as much here in the UK).</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669388" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669388" href="http://www.bynkii.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">John C. Welch</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669388" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>John: you obviously didn’t listen to the two hours of tape. If you had, you wouldn’t be asking for more representation of the Mac side of the fence. It was Windows Vista day and even Harry McCracken admitted he uses a Mac.</i><br><br>No Robert, oddly enough, after the first five minutes, listening to the rest of it would have made me slit my wrists. Since that would have adversely affected my wedding, I stopped listening.<br><br>As well, Harry McCraken "admitting" he uses a Mac is not the same thing as having the EIC of an actual Mac - focused publication on. Everyone knows Wired, PC World, and to a lesser extent Sling. But outside of the local MUG community, no one knows who the hell Sam Levin is, so regardless of your <i>intent</i>, you gave the appearance of stacking the deck.<br><br><i>But, yeah, it would be fun to have a conversation with the ones you recommended too. I hear Apple has something new coming out soon, so that’ll be an opportunity to pull out more Mac-oriented people there too.</i><br><br>At this point, pardon my lack of belief that you\'re going to actually do anything differently.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669390">Webb</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669390" class="dsq-comment-message">All things considered, it would be an interesting comparison if OSX were running as well on a system made with off the shelf parts.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669385">Jens</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669385" class="dsq-comment-message">You mean as well as cars made from off the shelf parts and TV\'s made from off the shelf parts? I hear those are soooo popular. Not.<br><br>I\'m sure BMW would have problems of microsofts proportions if they had to support Kia, Hyundai, Daiwoo, Mercedes, Nissan, GM, whathaveyou engines in their cars.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669383">Hypertime McMultiverse</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669383" class="dsq-comment-message">"Don’t do it as WMV OR QuickTime. For the love of dog, use MPEG-4. Everyone can view it. It’s universal, and while not as pretty as h.264, it’s not as hardware intensive either."<br><br>Thank you. It\'s mind-blowing that a mere commenter has more common sense than most of these self-proclaimed new media mavens.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669384" href="http://blog.macb.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">macbeach</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669384" class="dsq-comment-message">A few observations...<br><br>Interesting to see the confusion over Apple reliability vs Windows.   OS X has had a tremendous impact on the perception.  Windows has become more reliable too.   If Apple were still running the old OS 9 and previous based code they would be totally irrelevant now.<br><br>Even so, a huge percentage of the new Apple laptops have this rebooting/overheating/noisy fan problem and considering the controlled nature of the Apple ecosystem this is totally unacceptable.<br><br>The notion that people buying Apple laptops to run Windows one hundred percent of the time CAN\'T be good for Apple in the long run.  At some point (probably the next laptop purchase) such a user figures out they can get everything they need for half the price.<br><br>Is there something about being the center guy on a couch that keeps one from having anything to say?   Or is it just that Apple doesn\'t have any response in place to .NET?  (I\'m still not sure what the official designation is.)  For Linux, there is a .NET equivalent coming along, but I\'m not sure if there is anything for OS X.  In spite of Microsoft\'s willingness to share the .NET specs with standards groups this looks like yet another attempt to embrace and extinguish the Internet by flooding the market with .NET shareware that will only work if you have a Windows machine.  I think hypoglycemia had set in when you all seemed to agree that commercial Internet sites would be assuming enough people are running Vista in early 2008 (as the guy on the left said).  The uptake of Vista, via new PC purchases or otherwise won\'t move nearly that fast, and I don\'t think even Microsoft is predicting such a thing.  But still .NET CAN represent a future threat to anyone not running Windows.<br><br>Apple came up with Widgets for the desktop, made them easier to write and they were a big hit for a while.   But I find them too disruptive and hardly use mine any more.   Windows came up with Gadgets, and supposedly with .NET in Vista they will be even easier to code.  But of course BOTH of these companies are trying to lock people in to what they are doing rather than let the Widgets or Gadgets stand on their own.  Leave it to Open Source to develop desktop utilities that will work on everyone machine, be yet again easier to code.  And it will happen.<br><br>As the guy on the left said at the end, paraphrasing: "I don\'t want to be dependent on what Apple comes out with when I go to configure my next PC purchase".  And as you said Scoble, competition between these two companies benefits all of us users.<br><br>What I didn\'t hear from any of you was some sense of consumer backbone that says:  We won\'t accept these lock-in technologies as "good-enough" any more.  If the thought-leaders in our industry won\'t speak out against these unethical practices then who will?   What will benefit consumers the most is not just these two companies competing but dozens of such companies.  That is why the Web is so exciting right now.  Google may be big, but they don\'t take every new product announcement as an opportunity to cut off competition.  I\'m fed up with companies that do, and I hope more of you pundits will take that attitude too.  Do it for the users.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669381" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669381" href="http://www.bynkii.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">John C. Welch</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669381" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669381" class="dsq-comment-message"><i> Even so, a huge percentage of the new Apple laptops have this rebooting/overheating/noisy fan problem and considering the controlled nature of the Apple ecosystem this is totally unacceptable.</i><br><br>You have an actual verified/verifiable number on that? Since it\'s "huge" that is.<br><br><i>What I didn’t hear from any of you was some sense of consumer backbone that says: We won’t accept these lock-in technologies as “good-enough” any more. </i><br><br>You going to give us details on your 100% open source, open format, non-proprietare software AND hardware setup?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669377" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669377" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669377">Patrick</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669377" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669377" class="dsq-comment-message">Did you remember us, the deaf and hard of hearing viewers since you had invitited us to listen the debates. We can\'t understand you without having a closed captioned, opened captioned (subtitles).<br><br>Disappointed Deaf Viewers</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669378" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669378" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669378">Jason Snell</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669378" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669378" class="dsq-comment-message">In defense of Harry McCracken, not only is he a really good guy, but he knows both Vista and the Mac -- Vista because he\'s the editor of PC World, for Pete\'s sake, but the Mac because he is a longtime Mac user as well. He\'s got a MacBook now, but before the Intel Mac days he had a 12-inch PowerBook. That sort of perspective is especially useful when it comes to talking about this stuff.<br><br>I can explain the Mac perspective, sure, but I\'ve yet to even touch a copy of Windows Vista. (Although I\'ll be buying one soon and installing it on my copy of Parallels.)</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669380" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669380" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669380">Rich</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669380" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669380" class="dsq-comment-message">You should have these as video podcasts, accessible from iTunes. It\'s just too damn long to watch from here.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669379" class="dsq-comment-header">\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669379">DWalla</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669379" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669379" class="dsq-comment-message">Worthless exercise since Leopard rolls out in a couple of months.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669373" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669373" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669373">DWalla</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669373" class="dsq-comment-message">Looks like a Windows masturbation session. All giddy that they\'ve finally caught up... so catchng up = better..... because that is what they use.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669374" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669374" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669374" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669374" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669374" class="dsq-comment-message">Rich: we already have iTunes video podcasts. Just visit <a href="http://www.scobleshow.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.scobleshow.com</a>. All my shows are downloadable too (the quality is better if you do that).</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669375" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669375" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669375" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669375" class="dsq-comment-message">DWalla: are we watching the same video? The ones linked here seemed more like a Mac masturbation session.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669410" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669410" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669410">Will</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669410" class="dsq-comment-message">Really enjoyed these Robert. :D<br><br>I think you should do more discussion type videos like this!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669407" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669407" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669407">Diego</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669407" class="dsq-comment-message">I did like Gates squirming in his chair when asked whether he was going for an OS X look with Vista. Very amusing.<br><br>Vista is the first with parental controls? I think Bill needs to go in to Accounts in OS X and have a look there. There\'s a tab called "Parental Controls".<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQmOmdYPKJQ&amp;eurl=" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQmOmdYPKJQ&amp;...</a></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669408" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669408" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669408" href="http://www.bynkii.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">John C. Welch</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669408" class="dsq-comment-message">I don\'t doubt that Harry knows his stuff, considering his career. However, <i>impression</i> counts, as Robert should well know by now, considering how he\'s railed about it with regard to Microsoft in the past.<br><br>When you see EIC of PC World, Wired Magazine, (best known in the Mac community for Leander Kahney\'s ongoing "Cult of Mac" series, and trust me, it ain\'t makin\' him friends. Truth be told, there\'s a ton of Mac folks that refuse to talk to him after seeing how he angles everything he publishes.), the former sling guy, who point blank favors Windows, and the guy who founded the Stanford MUG, and Robert who, regardless of employer is still one of the biggest Windows fanbois on the Intarweb, that doesn\'t exactly create a balanced impression.<br><br>Considering that damned near right away, Robert has the thing degenerate into who has the most uptime, (which is as meaningless as ROI. I had Mac OS 8.X servers with 24 month uptimes. So the whole "pre Mac OS X wasn\'t stable" thing is both correct and incorrect.), and then some rambling history of Mac OS X, which for some reason made Microsoft out to be the best friend Apple had, yet oddly, left out some of the OTHER side of that history, like Gates personally threatening Sculley with pulling all MS support for the Mac if the proposed AppleBasic for the Mac wasn\'t killed, the threats about QuickTime, etc.<br><br>Once it degenerated into people saying "WIndows is better because you can get a PC cheaper", I punched out. It was either that or slit my wrists.<br><br><i>Regardless</i> of which you like better, this was the same lame - assed debate that you see in every damned advocacy forum and chatroom on the internet, and quite honestly, Robert pretty much guaranteed it with the way he set this up.<br><br>This wasn\'t an "intelligent debate", this was yet another friggin\' advocacy argument.<br><br>Next time, just call it, "Yet Another Advocacy War at Robert\'s House". It\'ll be more honest.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669403">Steve</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669403" class="dsq-comment-message">Robert, thanks for the reply. And for the video. I look forward to an apples to windows comparison between vista and leopard.<br><br>Here\'s a question: MS admittedly has won the corporate OS war; it\'s hard to come by a PC that doesn\'t have its OS preloaded. So that\'s it. Fine. Game over.<br><br>On the other hand, I have friends, regular blokes, not geeks, who have suffered miserably at the hands of MS, simply because of viruses on their computers at home. It must be the number 1 problem that computer users face. My experience? I have run Macs at home since 1985 without once having that issue. That\'s going on twenty years! The only viruses I have EVER encountered happened at work, where they ran an MS network.<br><br>So, here\'s the question: If someone asked for a recommendation on a regular (read, write) home computer, how can anyone push MS in good conscience? And in this same good conscience, how could anyone NOT mention the, relatively speaking, spectacular security of the Apple OS X?<br><br>And yet I heard and didn\'t hear just that on this video. And I hear and don\'t hear it ALL the time from experts. Come on, guys! Even if we wanted and hoped and believed that Vista will be much, much better on security issues, doesn\'t that remain to be demonstrated?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669393" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669393" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669393" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669393" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669393" class="dsq-comment-message">&gt;I have run Macs at home since 1985 without once having that issue.<br><br>I had one virus using Windows and that was back at Fawcette Technical Publications back in the 1990s. Turns out that viruses aren\'t as common as you might expect anymore on Windows side of the fence (and Vista has far far far better security). And I\'m on the Internet every single minute of every single day.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669400" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669400" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669400" href="http://www.bynkii.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">John C. Welch</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669400" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669400" class="dsq-comment-message">Um...no, Windows malware is just as common as ever, and the latest "Storm" outbreak is yet another example.<br><br>As well, Vista\'s "Security by annoying the shit out of you and locking you out of your system until you deal with a dialog box" isn\'t <i>security</i>, it\'s just their solution to the Registry problem applied to Security.<br><br><i>Did you remember us, the deaf and hard of hearing viewers since you had invitited us to listen the debates. We can’t understand you without having a closed captioned, opened captioned (subtitles).<br><br>Disappointed Deaf Viewers</i><br><br>It\'s a valid point Robert, regardless of how much work it is. Or is your brave new HD world only for those who can hear and see.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669392" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669392" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669392" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669392" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669392" class="dsq-comment-message">Yes, it is a very valid point, but is hanging in my priority list waiting for more employees/resources along with making shorter videos (hiring more editors, etc), two cameras with camera people, better microphones and an audio guy so people can hear, etc. It\'s definitely on my list to get to.<br><br>The dialog box? Everytime I try to install something on my new Mac it asks for my user name and password too.<br><br>But the problem it is trying to solve has nothing to do with the registry and everything to do with the fact that Windows used to let you run in administrator mode by default.<br><br>In Windows Vista you can\'t run in administrator mode. That alone is a HUGE advance for Windows security.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669401" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669401" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669401">Brian Richardson</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669401" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'m watching the first video, and viewing a bunch of tired old tribal wisdom. Geez, Apple is a freakin\' hardware company; they lose totally if they support OSX on PCs. Also, the entire DRM jive....that users are locked into Apple\'s propietary DRM...is even worse with Microsoft. At least, the Apple ecosystem is more user friendly and seamless.<br><br>Something else worth considering that is a huge differentiator between Windows and Mac systems: I can easily create a bootable exact clone of my OSX system to external firewire drive and take that firewire drive, connect it to almost any other current Mac and boot it up. I can\'t do that with my XP systems...a big downer!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669391" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669391" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669391">Steve</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669391" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669391" class="dsq-comment-message">&gt;Turns out that viruses aren’t as common as you might expect anymore on Windows side of the fence...<br><br>Really, Robert? I just heard on a twit program today, from Leo Laporte, that maybe 150 million computers have been coopted by malware to spew spam etc. Robert Heron thought the figure was much higher. And they are ALL running the MS OS.<br><br>Please remember, I am talking about plain joes at home, just trying to run simple software, read email, browse the web. And not have their pc destroyed with all its documents, as happened to a friend of mine last year. He now runs one computer online and one off. How crazy is that?<br><br>I blame the poor advice we get. Apparently from you for one. Sorry. And from lots of other genuine experts, who are simply out of touch with "homeys."</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669387" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669387" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669387" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669387" class="dsq-comment-message">Steve: how many of those machines are running Windows XP Service Pack 2?<br><br>Based on what I see in airports, a HUGE part of the world is still running Windows 98, Windows 2000, or unpatched XP systems.<br><br>If you keep your security up to date and keep your OS up to date you see far far far far fewer problems than what you\'re reporting.<br><br>Should I remind you that a 1999 Mac crashed far far more often than today too? So, should I be able to stick Apple\'s old reputation onto it?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669386" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669386" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669386" href="http://www.bynkii.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">John C. Welch</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669386" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>The dialog box? Everytime I try to install something on my new Mac it asks for my user name and password too.</i><br><br>However, Mac OS X doesn\'t blank out the rest of your screen. You\'re free to work on anything else you want, and shove the dialog out of the way until you feel like dealing with it. Vista doesn\'t. Instead, it shuts down everything but that box. Bad UI, no doughnut.<br><br><i>But the problem it is trying to solve has nothing to do with the registry and everything to do with the fact that Windows used to let you run in administrator mode by default.</i><br><br>Barraging you with a continual stream of dialogs for things that have no business needing approval is EXACTLY like how Microsoft deals with the registry. Instead of making the Registry easily fixed, and not the appendix of system settings it is, they just keep making more copies of it, so you have a better chance of being able to restore things.<br><br>Administrator mode wasn\'t the problem. The problem was that with Windows, Administrator mode is EXACTLY the same as the Unix "root" account, instead of something in between. Even worse, pre-sp2, Windows never even asked you for a password FOR this root account.<br><br>When you hammer people with dialogs, the reaction becomes, "dear god, shut that shit off".<br><br><i>In Windows Vista you can’t run in administrator mode. That alone is a HUGE advance for Windows security.</i><br><br>Until UAC gets gutted so non-admins can perform normal tasks without having to call the IT people at all hours from remote locations. Then it\'s kind of screwed. Bothering people more != Better security.<br><br><i>Should I remind you that a 1999 Mac crashed far far more often than today too? So, should I be able to stick Apple’s old reputation onto it?</i><br><br>By the random pill colors you call logic, I had Pre-Mac OS X macs with two year uptimes, so therefore, you\'re wrong.<br><br>As well, SP 2 only protects *somewhat* better against random remote access. Doesn\'t do shit about spyware and all its effects, and I am talking about COMPLETELY up to date SP2 installs.<br><br>You\'re not an IT person Robert, stop acting like you have a friggin\' clue.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669382" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669382" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669382">Brian Shapiro</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669382" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669382" class="dsq-comment-message">scoble,<br><br>I wish your videos had transcripts. Scanning text is a lot less tedious than waiting through a video :)</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669376" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669376" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669376">Steve</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669376" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669376" class="dsq-comment-message">Robert, I don\'t give much credit to an argument that compares restarts to loss of hardware and files. But I am going to rest my case: Macs, no viruses, malware, etc. Microsoft, a long history of wreck and ruin. Sure it might be better today. Maybe. But as a professional and pro, I\'d feel bound to advise plain folks to pick the safer way.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669372" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669372" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669372" href="http://rooreynolds.com/2007/02/01/why-i-dont-watch-videos-or-listen-to-podcasts/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Roo Reynolds</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669372" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669372" class="dsq-comment-message">Spot on Brian. Give me transcripts every time.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669389" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669389" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669389" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669389" class="dsq-comment-message">&gt;By the random pill colors you call logic, I had Pre-Mac OS X macs with two year uptimes, so therefore, you’re wrong.<br><br>Not that ran Quark XPress or Adobe Pagemaker.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669371" href="http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/node/2" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Brady Merriweather</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669371" class="dsq-comment-message">I am a system builder. I build custom PC\'s for people and service them.<br>I sat in the live cast meeting about Vista and upset that I as a<br>reseller of Windows software are not getting incentives, but costly<br>material at my expense to promote Vista.<br><br>I realize that they want to narrow the gap. Where only major sellers of<br>PC\'s (Such as HP. Dell, and Gateway..) keep creating the "Throw away<br>PC\'s" and avoid patents and universal PC standards to reduce the<br>options for customers to just replace parts to maintain their PC\'s.<br>They are planning to help them "Macify" the PC market. Removing<br>generics such as Elitegroup, PCChips.. you know them. They sell<br>frequently on sites like Tiger direct etc.<br><br>Distributors like ASI, DHL, &amp; many more rely on the PC enthusiasts,<br>system builders, and small IT professionals to use their parts for<br>system upgrades, and main board replacements.<br><br>With the new Vista licensing, this effects large companies who purchase<br>part replacements to maintain systems, expecting to keep them running<br>for 5 years. IT now will have purchase completes with Licenses, in<br>order to use new volume licenses, which they purchased in the first<br>place to REDUCE unnecessary costs. This increases costs for the<br>customer. Also, with the limited branding of Vista, computer<br>enthusiasts, and game fanatics who just upgrade their computers on a<br>frequent basis, may consider buying cheaper PC\'s since they may in 1<br>year replace their motherboard and processor twice a year to handle the<br>latest PC titles.<br><br>This increases the sales of more affordable PC\'s, with copies of Windows<br>Vista, but it is going to cause a backlash.<br><br>I have already joined the Ohio Ubuntu Linux chapter as of 4 days ago,<br>and plan on not re-registering my partnership with Microsoft because of<br>this. I will be able to compete still with Dell and HP with affordable<br>desktops with Ubuntu, which will soon support by April all major chip<br>sets and printers. Since many of my customers who buy PC\'s are not<br>power users, the desktop environment and "ease of use" will draw<br>customers. I would able to sell a PC with a fully operational office<br>suite and educational packages for the cost of under $500. plus for<br>only $50.00 add Cedega, which supports many Gaming platforms, or even<br>wine, which now supports many static windows applications.<br><br>I will still have customers coming in for support, as they might need<br>assistance to use printers and cameras with their new systems, and<br>since I know about looking at system logs in Linux, I will be able to<br>diagnose minor (but soon to be ) hardware failures.<br><br>This is going to be an interesting year. Smaller computer stores are<br>going to have to compete with larger computer manufactures, and generic<br>brands and Distributors are going to support this effort. Since now even<br>states like Indiana has made a demand to put their schools on all Linux<br>platforms, this is going to be also a new thing occurring here in Ohio.<br>The chapter here has already made headway. You can review the meeting<br>notes at <a href="http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/node/2" rel="nofollow">http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/node/2</a></div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669370" href="http://www.pcsnetworks.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jeffrey McPheeters</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669370" class="dsq-comment-message">I think the discussion was not all that informative from what I watched. Since I\'m over 50 and have been using computers since the punch card era, and bought an IBM PC in 1981 and a Mac in 1988 and use both daily, I\'ve seen enough to know two things. First, it\'s much more informative to get some Mac heads together to criticize the Mac OS and Window heads together to critique the Windows platform and maybe discuss their mutual preferences and disklikes in a constructive manner, than having any kind of OS A expert critique OS B and vice versa. Second, the OS war, as it\'s been termed, is gradually declining in significance as the playing field grows away from PCs in general and enlarges to encompass many other kinds of appliances. It\'s more instructive to discuss Apple and Microsoft as players in the future through their impact in various appliances than whether their current computer operating systems hold any significant advantage, since they (the operating systems themselves) are basically fighting for a smaller and smaller piece of the technology fabric.<br><br>If anything, Microsoft should also consider a name change, as Apple did. Their name isn\'t \'cool\' anymore, and the future of technology almost renders their name construct obsolete. A fruit makes more sense, ironically.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669369">LayZ</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669369" class="dsq-comment-message">@18  You use one random example of people lined up at some randoms store in Phoenix as an example of Windows popularity????  I\'m guessing polling and surveying and statistics in not in your background?  Have any other compelling data point of Windows "popularity"</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669366" href="http://redneckarts.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">redneckarts</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669366" class="dsq-comment-message">boring boring boring. I\'ve worked on windows for years.<br>And I mean worked on windows. Getting it to work. patching and second editioning, and fixing, and dicking around.<br><br>Bought an Imac about a month ago, and you know what. I work on something other than the operating system these days. Like actual work. And popular? I\'ve never once in my life heard anyone rave positive about windows. Never. Bitch certainly. But I\'ve enjoyed my work since I got that mac. Entirely subjective I know, but there ya go. Thanks y\'all.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669367" href="http://con1.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">con1</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669367" class="dsq-comment-message">go on <a href="http://con1.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">con1.wordpress.com</a></div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669368" href="http://con1.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">con1</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669368" class="dsq-comment-message">yawn im tired</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669364">Luke</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669364" class="dsq-comment-message">"However, Mac OS X doesn’t blank out the rest of your screen. You’re free to work on anything else you want, and shove the dialog out of the way until you feel like dealing with it. Vista doesn’t. "<br><br>UAC dlg runs in a separate desktop that no other app has access to.<br>That\'s so that malware (spyware, keyloggers, etc) can\'t snoop your password.  And also makes it harder for malware to spoof the UAC dlg.<br><br>Mac malware ( if it existed) can spoof authentication dlgs and snoop anthentcation credentials that are entered by teh user.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669365">Luke</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669365" class="dsq-comment-message">John C. Welch, do you ever shut up?</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669357" href="http://www.grannybuttons.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Andrew Denny</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669357" class="dsq-comment-message">One thing I didn\'t hear the discussion comment on is Apple\'s cheesy advertising for PC vs Mac.<br><br>I find that ad series quite insulting, implying that people who use PCs are ignorant polyester-suited nerds, and Mac users are cool, hip and more intelligent.<br><br>That itself aggravates me more than a computer crash, and I suspect many other people feel it too.  Especially since I spent 18 months with a crashing Ibook that Apple refused to accept was faulty.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669358" href="http://www.bynkii.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">John C. Welch</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669358" class="dsq-comment-message">Robert, maybe you should have had more competent people running your Macs. We had Quark 4, Office, etc, never had any more crashing problems than any of the 98/NT 4 boxes. Now the reliability kings at the time were our Solaris workstations, but that was a different architecture and usage pattern entirely.<br><br>The point you\'re missing is that *any* OS is stable if properly cared for. Considering how you got your "Scobleizer" nickname, I\'m not seeing you as being into the whole "Properly cared for" thing.<br><br><i>You use one random example of people lined up at some randoms store in Phoenix as an example of Windows popularity???? I’m guessing polling and surveying and statistics in not in your background?</i><br><br>Layz, it\'s Robert. We all know that fact-checking and the like are not going to happen here. It\'s what he does, or rather doesn\'t do. I resisted the temptation to point out the lines at the Macworld keynote and use the comparative sizes in anything, because while fun, it would be kind of dumb.<br><br><i>UAC dlg runs in a separate desktop that no other app has access to.<br>That’s so that malware (spyware, keyloggers, etc) can’t snoop your password. And also makes it harder for malware to spoof the UAC dlg.</i><br><br>Funny how every other OS can manage to deal with this issue in a way that doesn\'t hose the user. It\'s only Microsoft that has to make security as maddeningly infuriating as humanly possible. Of course, that way, they can say "SEE! WE\'RE PROTECTING YOU! BY LOCKING YOU OUT OF YOUR COMPUTER! WE PROTECT YOU"<br><br><i>Mac malware ( if it existed) can spoof authentication dlgs and snoop anthentcation credentials that are entered by teh user.</i><br><br>Dude, spoofing a dialog that blanks out your screen ain\'t impossible on Winders either, so you have no point there. You have, of course, verifiable proof that one can snoop the authentication dialogs on the current version of Mac OS X, and that it is of course, impossible to do the same on Vista?<br><br>If so, links?<br><br><i>John C. Welch, do you ever shut up?</i><br><br>But Luke, if I did, you\'d have a normal happy life. Where\'s the fun in that for me?</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669359" href="http://jericbilo.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jeric Bilo</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669359" class="dsq-comment-message">Great blog. I\'m impressed with each turn.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669360" href="http://stuffonwalls.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">stuffonwalls</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669360" class="dsq-comment-message">i \'ve put vista on my macbook pro, and it looks nice and shiny. see pics: <a href="http://stuffonwalls.wordpress.com/2007/01/30/vista-on-mac/" rel="nofollow">http://stuffonwalls.wordpress.com/2007/01/30/vi...</a></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669361">Jarod</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669361" class="dsq-comment-message">Vista is for people that know nothing about technology or quality. Quite often it\'s the same type of people that settle in life. Not much of success either.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669362" href="http://justinvsblog.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Justin V</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669362" class="dsq-comment-message">@ 71.. LMAO.. that\'s FUNNY.. LOL</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669356" href="http://timthefoolman.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Tim</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669356" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>Or is it just that Apple doesn’t have any response in place to .NET? (I’m still not sure what the official designation is.)</i><br><br>Yes, I believe several senior engineers in Cupertino yawned. I\'m not sure if it was the official response, but it seemed appropriate. - Tim<br><br>P.S. Yes, I\'m aware of the prevalence of .NET support in the Windows programming world. I deal with it (as a developer) every day. The best I can say is that it\'s marginally better than "DLL Hell." But hey... it\'s from MS, so it\'s either "popular" or "common" (depending on which definition that you use).</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669354" href="http://timthefoolman.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Tim</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669354" class="dsq-comment-message">@68<br><br>Andrew, I asked my wife (a non-technical, Windows-only user) what she thought of the ads last night. Her response:<br><br>"It seems to emphasize ease of use for the Mac, that while the PC is fine for business stuff, the Mac is more accessible for the average Joe."<br><br>I strongly suspect that Apple has done a bit of market research, and discovered that the techie types who are annoyed/offended by the ads would never have considered a Mac to begin with (coincidentally, probably more likely to know John Hodgeman). The non-techie seems to not get annoyed at the ads at all, and finds them funny and entertaining.<br><br>Based on the percentage of technie to non-techie (as some have suggested, possibly parallel to the percentage of manual transmissions shipped in new cars today), maybe the Apple marketing people not such morons after all. - Tim</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669355">LayZ</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669355" class="dsq-comment-message">@53. "Based on what I see in airports, a HUGE part of the world is still running Windows 98, Windows 2000, or unpatched XP systems."<br><br>Good grief, Scoble. Your proof points get more and more ridiculous.  So, lemme see if I understand your thesis here.  You see random people at random airports running older versions of Windows (BTW, how can you tell, just by looking, that someone is running an unpatched version of XP?) and from that you conclude that the majority of incidents of malware are coming from these types of people?  What might help to bolster your theory is quoting actual usage numbers of those OS\'s, rather than your random observations. Or do you not subscribe to a blog that reports that type of data? I\'m guessing that\'s your problem here.<br><br>Seriously, is your sole source of information and research based on random people you see and reading the first three lines of blog posts that are basically random opinions from other people?</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669353" href="http://www.johnpapola.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">John Papola</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669353" class="dsq-comment-message">These videos are terrible and here\'s why: this ISN\'T an intelligent debate about Windows vs. OSX or Microsoft vs. Apple.  About 20 minutes of these two hours are geniunely on topic and geniunely on target.  At least half of the time is a tangent.  The other half is so poorly articulated or generalized or just plain wrong.  I mean, did they really just discuss the two-button mouse issue in 2007?   Apple\'s context menu support is completely rich across the OS and applications and all desktops ship with two mice.  Macbooks provide context clicking through keeping two fingers on the trackpad which not only enables a larger target, but allow for those whoe are confused but the second button to opt out.<br><br>Anyway, no offense to the mac usergroup guy but he was so totally incapable of articulating the Apple argument it was pathetic.  He just looked like the classic mac dweeb whining about how it "feels" while everyone talked about Vista\'s graphics layer like it\'s wild new tech.  COME ON.  Quartz hit the scene with OSX 10.0 in 2001.  Quartz Extreme and Core Image delivered full GPU acceleration years ago and they do so without hobbling the UI on non-compliant graphics cards.  OSX has expose, dropshadows and translucency on a 400mhz G4 cube.<br><br>I offer scoble a rematch.  I bet I could do way better on the partisan mac side than this jumbled mess.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669351" href="http://zakkforchilli.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">forchilli</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669351" class="dsq-comment-message">loved the videos.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669352">DWalla</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669352" class="dsq-comment-message">Vista = Mac OS X circa 2003</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669350" href="http://www.kendalslife.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Kendal</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669350" class="dsq-comment-message">"UAC dlg runs in a separate desktop that no other app has access to.<br>That’s so that malware (spyware, keyloggers, etc) can’t snoop your password. And also makes it harder for malware to spoof the UAC dlg.<br><br>Mac malware ( if it existed) can spoof authentication dlgs and snoop anthentcation credentials that are entered by teh user." - luke.<br><br>Luke, Vista\'s UAC does this at the expense of the user\'s productivity and concentration. Besides which, WHAT Mac Malware? You can\'t justify something when the negative doesn\'t exist, mate.<br><br>"I find that ad series quite insulting, implying that people who use PCs are ignorant polyester-suited nerds, and Mac users are cool, hip and more intelligent." - Andrew.<br><br>Andrew, didn\'t you see the Office 2003 ads by Microsoft? They implied that you were stupid old dinosaurs unless you upgraded...Tim (#75), spot on- the ads are light entertainment highlighting real facts. I always have a good laugh at these ads and look forward to more! They\'re much better than lame pictures of dinosaur office workers being \'prehistoric\' for using Office XP (a perfectly-fine version of Office, I might add)- talk about shooting yourself in the foot with your own ads criticising your own software!<br><br>“SEE! WE’RE PROTECTING YOU! BY LOCKING YOU OUT OF YOUR COMPUTER! WE PROTECT YOU” -John.<br><br>Made me spill my Coke with laughter! Thanks for your comments John- saved me typing them, and kept this inane and subjetively useless debate in order.<br><br>Robert, whilst your passion is laudable, your scientific nature is benign- your \'facts\' leave us scratching our heads, forced to take you at word....sorry, but it doesn\'t work like that in the real world- you might fool your Mother with those sweeping comments, but nobody else :)</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669349" href="http://www.bynkii.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">John C. Welch</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669349" class="dsq-comment-message">You want .Net on a Mac, there\'s Mono. Open source, well planned, well - executed.<br><br>Of course, the dirty secret about .Net is a lot of .Net applications aren\'t "pure" .Net.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669348" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669348">Zian</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669348" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669348" class="dsq-comment-message">It\'s not really a dirty secret as much as its the developer\'s conscious/unconscious decision to make dependencies beyond .NET.<br><br>There\'s actually a whole MSDN article on the topic of "pure" .NET.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669345">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669345" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669345" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669345" href="http://www.bynkii.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">John C. Welch</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669345" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669345" class="dsq-comment-message">I don\'t see a lot of ".NET" applications sans such dependencies coming out of Microsoft.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669343">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669343" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669343" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669343" href="http://www.vista-blogger.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Carl</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669343" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669343" class="dsq-comment-message">I was excited when Vista was launched.  My university had a PC in their IT office with Vista Business.  I checked it out right before break and loved it.  It is a welcome break from that all to familiar grey start button and outdated menu layout!  I was psyched!<br><br>I used Linux for a while, and even used Mac OS X.  I had a PC laptop that I bought a few months ago (I know, I had to have both OS\'s).  I bought Vista Home Premuim Academic today, and just now had enough time for the upgrade.  I think I\'ll stay up all night and play with it.  It\'s good to be back...</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669347">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669347" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669347" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669347">Damske</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669347" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669347" class="dsq-comment-message">These guys are uninformed about mac in general.<br>The right-click debate was asinine. EVERY thing in mac has a right-click enabled. BUT you don\'t NEED to because it\'s designed to not cripple you.<br>Less is more.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669346">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669346" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669346" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669346">Brian</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669346" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669346" class="dsq-comment-message">What\'s so beautiful about Apple\'s OS?  I beg you to enlighten me.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669344">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669344" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669344" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669344">Stefan</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669344" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669344" class="dsq-comment-message">Great discussion. Also reveals the different types of users using the two systems. Mac to me makes so much more sense in comparison to Windows. I login every day at the office with ctrl + alt + delete which offsets windows take on how to use computers.....<br><br>excuse my englisch,<br><br>stefan, switzerland</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669342">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669342" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669342" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669342">mike you</span>\
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	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669342" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669342" class="dsq-comment-message">There\'s only ONE reason any person could argue in favor of windows over mac and that is they\'ve never spent a week with a mac.<br>Longer life span.<br>no virusses.<br>no Delays.<br>no \'drivers\'<br>no \'uninstallers\'<br>no \'system registry\'.<br>better graphics, better media, Always ahead of Windows.<br>FASTER than ANY windows pc.<br>No \'\'New Hardware Wizard".<br>Fast, easy, elegant, ergonomic, friendly, quick, CLEAN, uncluttered, longer-lasting, no trips to the \'computer repair shop\'.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669341">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669341" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669341" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669341">Myriam D</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669341" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669341" class="dsq-comment-message">I am a Mac user since 1985. Back then I bought a Mac because it offered a graphic environment and ease of use with peripherals (then mostly a printer). I have always stated I might switch to another OS if it offered me advantages. Which is what I am expecting from a comparison and not really getting.<br>Everything I own now is geared towards the Mac. So Vista ought to be really better to make a switch worthwhile.<br>Apart from that, the monopolistic power of Microsoft is not something I relish.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669340">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669340" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669340" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669340">Ken Harvey</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669340" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669340" class="dsq-comment-message">I think Vista sucks just like everything else WinDOZE!<br><br>Apple will bury MSFT ...in time.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669339">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669339" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669339" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669339">Mak</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669339" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669339" class="dsq-comment-message">windows is the best<br>the most practical, and with vista\'s launch the best looking os.<br><br>mac sucks. just looks good but otherwise sucks</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669338">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669338" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669338" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669338" href="http://www.softwaretipspalace.com/tech_and_tests/windows_vista_versus_mac_x_tiger.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Vista vs Mac OS X</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669338" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669338" class="dsq-comment-message">Looks like a Windows masturbation session. All giddy that they’ve finally caught up… so catchng up = better….. because that is what they use.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669337">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669337" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669337" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669337">Christian</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669337" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669337" class="dsq-comment-message">The paradigm of Mac, at least from the layperson, appears to be Graphic Artist focused.  I think there would be less resistance from hardcore PC geeks, especially programmers, if Mac were to put some dollars into marketing and developing a stronger developer community.  Sure it exists, but even Mac pokes fun of the developers in their commercials [insert commercial about c++ programmers bible here].  I don\'t think companies even put Macs on the list in consideration for application development platforms.  Java = windows/linux... well that is pretty much the two choices for all languages.  Variety is good, so more power to Mac to try.  I suppose they didn\'t revitalize themselves touting Java support and development platforms so they just focus on what works, but I truly do feel that there is a larger demographic that they are missing out on who are especially prone to be evangelists towards one OS... programmers and especially those younger basement dwelling coding trolls and college kids that are the future of software development.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669336" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669336" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669336" href="http://buzzdroid.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">buzzdroid</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669336" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669336" class="dsq-comment-message">At least they have common ground in that neither one can be released on time. They\'re locked in a heated icon battle at <a href="http://buzzdroid.com/icon-battle/icon-battle-vista-vs-os-x-leopard/" rel="nofollow">http://buzzdroid.com/icon-battle/icon-battle-vi...</a></div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669335">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669335" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669335" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669335">Mark</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669335" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669335" class="dsq-comment-message">Good show but it has to be said that you guys aren\'t nearly as informed as you think you are. It\'s obvious that you know next to nothing about the inner workings of either OS, even though you claim to be techies.<br><br>Case in point: Unix has better file systems than the Mac... I\'m sorry but some of this stuff is just silly. OS X is Unix. And, Leopard will ship with support for the most advanced file system on the planet: ZFS.<br><br>Windows is also a terrible idea for servers, this is why Unix runs the internet, not Windows server. I am a Mac user, but I work with Windows all day as a developer.<br><br>It\'s amazingly easy to sit on a couch and talk your ass off about what you think will come. CAN YOU TRY AND STICK TO FACTS.<br><br>Thanks, Take care,<br><br>Mark.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669334">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669334" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669334" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669334">Mark</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669334" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669334" class="dsq-comment-message">Please, please don\'t pretend to know anything about .NET or development in general. Version 3.0 of .NET is not a major upgrade, there are some minor changes to C#, new and updated APIs and some minor Tech added. In fact the version number was chosen simply to make it fit better with Vista!<br><br><br>WIth this mouse shit you\'ve gone way to far.<br><br>Let me assert for the record that every Mac designed in the past 5 years will have a mouse that has right click! Added to that every notebook for the last 4 years accept a two finger click on the track-pad as a right click. Even if you don\'t have a new Mac you can hold down control and click.<br><br>RIGHT CLICK is built into the OS. It\'s been built in since the NeXT OS, the OS that became OS X. Also note that you can use right click for a lot of things, but it\'s an option.<br><br>The guy in the middle there doesn\'t any of this. It was at this point that the discussion became a joke. It was reasonably creditable before any of the mouse talk.<br><br>I\'m not trying to knock you, great show, but you have your facts wrong in so many areas.<br><br>Best wishes,<br><br>Mark.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669332">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669332" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669332" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669332">Kly</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669332" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669332" class="dsq-comment-message">Hmm, I had a few wee plays with OSX, and yeah, it does seem nice and simple.<br>I wasn\'t that impressed though, nothing really grabbed me as amazing or intuitive, but I suppose you would have to use the OS everyday to actually form a proper opinion on how good it is.<br><br>As for the stability of Vista, I have been running vista daily since February now.<br>The system itself has not crashed once.Ever!<br>Sure, a few applications I have installed have had a few issues, but rather than hang the system like they would have in XP, vista gives you the option of persevering or killing the app.<br><br>The problem with running Vista is that anyone can try to install it on any old piece of crap.<br>With apple, everything is sorted upon purchase, which is good for some.<br><br>Not for me though, I like to build my own computers.<br><br>I built two conroe powered computers for a friend who uses them for rendering, using lightwave.<br>And yes, there were a few teething issues to begin with,  but they were sorted pretty quick.<br>Now, his business partner has a mac pro, and just one of these conroe powered PC\'s out rendered the mac, 2 minutes a frame to the macs 4 minutes.<br>The mac cost a little bit more than both PC\'s, and yes, they came with a widescreen monitor and peripherals.<br>So my friend quadrupled his production time by going with windows.<br><br><br>By the way, as far as I am aware, there are no conroe powered macs out there, I might be wrong, but a google search seems to bring up some rather ambiguous results.<br>I might be wrong, correct me if this is the case.<br><br>Someone mentioned the Macs have better graphics than PC\'s.<br><br>How so?<br><br>What is the best Graphics Card you can get for a Mac?<br>As far as I can tell, its the higher price than normal Quadro FX 4500.<br><br>Do they support Quadro FX 5500 1GB?<br> No.<br>Do the support the 8 series nVidia cards?<br> No.<br>Do they support DX10?<br> No.<br><br>So please, tell me why they would have better graphics?<br><br>Food for thought.<br><br>Anyway, I suppose we will have to wait until they are happy with the iPhone, and then maybe we can see how good Leopard is eh?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669333">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669333" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669333" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669333">Kly</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669333" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669333" class="dsq-comment-message">"no trips to the ‘computer repair shop’."<br><br>Bwahaha, yeah right :D</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669414">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669414" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669414" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669414">Mikey</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669414" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669414" class="dsq-comment-message">Use whatever OS works best for you and the software you wish to run on it. If OSX floats your boat, good for you, enjoy yourself; if it\'s Linux, then well done, I hope you\'re having fun, for me it\'s Windows.<br><br>It\'s interesting to think the OS debate is rarely ever "THIS is better than THAT", but more "MINE is better than YOURS", as if we need to justify ourselves to make ourselves feel better about the choices we have made.<br><br>I create 3D and 2D graphics, webpages and Flash animations using Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Flash, Cinema 4D, all from within XP (and now Vista) without a problem, without any effort, and without having to fight against some sort of mythical OS monster to do it. I\'ve never had a computer virus in the 8 years connected to the net (4 years via broadband), and the last blue screen of death I had was at least 2 years ago. I also enjoy the latest games (STALKER is the current favourite).<br><br>It\'s a pity that owners of other operating systems will sometimes feel the need to try and make me feel inferior too them, for no apparent reason apart from to make themselves feel good.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669413">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669413" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669413" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669413">Michelangelo</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669413" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669413" class="dsq-comment-message">OS X: \'Hey, Vista, what\'s up?\'<br>Vista: \'I\'m playing a game.\'<br>OS X: \'Cool, which one?\'<br>Vista: \'Any.\'<br>OS X: \'Oh...\' (Turns away... Fades away...)</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669412">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669412" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669412" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669412" href="http://timthefoolman.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Tim</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669412" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669412" class="dsq-comment-message">Michaelangelo, see post 103.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9669415">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669415" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669415" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669415">merelars</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669415" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669415" class="dsq-comment-message">With Leopard around the corner and the problems Vista faces, I guess Leopard will win the OS battle.<br><br>Cheers</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669416" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669416" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9669416">Russel</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669416" class="dsq-comment-message">I just want to point out the following:<br><br>Risk = Threat * Severity * Exposure<br><br>The reason why windows is more prone to attacks is simply because they are more exposed to being attacked. As a user, I regularly install free software from internet, do this and that, tweak something, or play with some trial.<br><br>With a Mac, everything is so hard to find, say I wanna get a third party codec for free. I can go on an on with examples of stuff that I need, that I can find for windows for free and not for Mac.<br><br>Securitywise, I think windows have improved a lot. I haven\'t had a virus in a loooong time. I do get those spywares, but then I have spybot and adaware for free that takes care of it. Stabilitywise it\'s actually much better than linux or solaris, which I have used and got dissappointed.<br><br>User interfacewise, I would say I am not anal or desperate about either MAC OS X or Win Vista. As a user I think both are excellent interface. But that is not an important factor for me when deciding which one to buy.<br><br>I want to be free when choosing the devices I want for my PC, for example I want NVIDIA chipset or may be ATI. And MOST IMPORTANTLY I want to be free enough so that if I decide to upgrade my computer, I can easily do it. Quite honestly, I dont perceive an Apple MAC computer to satisfy that.<br><br>Most important of all, I would be more interested in MAC if I wouldn\'t see these sort of "religious fanaticism" among apple users. Here\'s a story, I have a professor who hates PC and MS. So one day we\'re working on something and apparently he has this shitty P2 laptop half broken. He starts it and apparently it was taking a while to startup and he shakes his head and says oooohhhh microsoft!... I mean come on,... MAC people... if you wanna attract people towards MAC, I dont think bad mouthing Microsoft in Adv would really help. In fact that\'s the sign of an inferiority complex and a definite turn-off for people.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9669417" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9669417" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9669417" href="http://www.itcomparison.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">vmguru007</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9669417" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9669417" class="dsq-comment-message">Hi,<br><br>If you are like me not into watching 4 hours video and like to find the differences between Vista &amp; Mac OSX right away. Then you can easily check  <a href="http://itcomparison.com/OS/MacvsVista/macvsvista.htm" rel="nofollow">http://itcomparison.com/OS/MacvsVista/macvsvist...</a> which hit directly to the point.<br><br>Enjoy,<br>VMguru007</div>\
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		if(navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Firefox") != -1) {
			if(window.frames['dsq-reply-frame']) {
				window.frames['dsq-reply-frame'].location = Dsq.Urls.REPLY + (new Date()).getTime() + '&f=scobleizer&t=windows_vista_vs_osx_debate_now_up&to_redirect=' + encodeURIComponent(window.location) + '&ifrs=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css);
			}
		}
	}

	if (Dsq.jsonData.integration.theme == 4) {
		if (Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			Dsq.Realtime.initialize();
		}
	}

	



	window.ExecuteWhen = (function () {
	var obj = {}
	
	// Private
	var running = false;
	var timer = null;
	var pending = [];
	var startTimer = function() {
		running = true;
		timer = setInterval(obj.heartBeat, 100);
	};
	var stopTimer = function() {
		running = false;
		clearInterval(timer);
	};
	
	// Public
	obj.add = function (condition, code) {
		pending.push([condition,code]);
		this.heartBeat(); //!
		if (!running) {
			startTimer();
		}
	};
	obj.heartBeat = function() {
		if (!pending.length) {
			stopTimer();
		}
		var newPending = [];
		for (var i=0; i<pending.length; i++) {
			var cond = pending[i][0];
			var code = pending[i][1];
			// FIXME: if cond or code throw an error, they never get removed from pending
			if (cond()){
				code();
			}
			else {
				newPending.push([cond, code]);
			}
		}
		pending = newPending;
	};
	return obj;
})();

// also used in embed_thread.js:
window.fbIsReady = function () {return window.FB && FB.init;};
// NOTE: This script gets executed again without threadEl
//       set when we are loaded again as the fbc_receiver.
//       In this case, we don't need the hidden container.

if(!window.FB || !FB.init) {
	if(window.Dsq && Dsq.container) {
		// container is not present when init.js is loaded from an xd-receiver iframe; in this case,
		// we don't need the FB_HiddenContainer anyway.
		var fbDiv = document.createElement('div');
		fbDiv.id = "FB_HiddenContainer";	// Required or else FeatureLoader will execute a document.write.
		fbDiv.style.position = 'absolute';	// This is intentionally not setting display to none as this breaks
		fbDiv.style.top = '-10000px';		// Flash in Safari.
		fbDiv.style.left = '-10000px';
		fbDiv.style.width = '0px';
		fbDiv.style.height = '0px';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(fbDiv);
	}
	var fbJS = document.createElement('script');
	fbJS.type = "text/javascript";
	fbJS.src = "http://static.ak.connect.facebook.com/js/api_lib/v0.4/FeatureLoader.js.php";
	document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(fbJS);

	ExecuteWhen.add(window.fbIsReady,
		function () {
			// HACK: This is a workaround FBC's single domain limitation by
			//		 allowing sites to create multiple forums with different
			//		 Facebook API keys.  This must be used in conjunction with
			//		 disqus_facebook_forum (see authenticateFacebook).
			var facebook_api_key = 'faaf467d0f47abde553c3b8e0e1b3570';
			if (typeof disqus_facebook_api_key != 'undefined') {
				facebook_api_key = disqus_facebook_api_key;
			}

			FB.init(facebook_api_key, window.facebookXdReceiverPath || null,
				{fetchSignedPublicSessionData: true});
		});
}


	


if(typeof(disqus_callback) == 'function') {
	var callback_params = Dsq.Utils.getRequestParams()['dsq_cbp'] || null;

	// We don't care about any errors in third-party code
	try {
		disqus_callback(callback_params);
	} catch (x) {
		if (typeof(console) != 'undefined' && typeof(console.log) == 'function') {
			// But it would be nice to let developers know about them
			console.log(x);
		}
		// pass
	}

	// HACK: We don't know if the callback wraps our container, which may
	// possibly result in a new DOM element.
	Dsq.container = document.getElementById('dsq-content');
}

// Global event handler for narcissus.
if (Dsq.jsonData.integration.theme == 4) {
	var g = Dsq.Utils.ie ? document : window;
	Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(g, 'keydown', function(event) {
		// Handle "enter" key on input for post box.
		if ((event.keyCode || event.which) == 13) {
			var target = Dsq.Utils.ie ? event.srcElement : event.target;
			// For Safari bug, detect text node.
			if (target.nodeType == 3) {
				target = target.parentNode;
			}

			if (target.nodeName == 'INPUT' &&
				target.parentNode.className == 'dsq-input-wrapper') {
				var postId = Dsq.Utils.extractId(target);
				Dsq.Templates.postComment(postId, this, false);
			}
		}
	});
}

})();




