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Yep, still got 'em and still use 'em.<br>11) No carb on the car, but now we have electronic devices that you use the same way to tweak the fuel mixtures...  And of course, I *do* still manually adjust the carb'd fuel mixture on the airplane.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_10:31:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "46bce1bb8135d821c3792456f240e764", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700865": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "While I do regret learning the comptometer (see <a href=\"http://www2.cruzio.com/%7Evagabond/Models.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www2.cruzio.com/~vagabond/Models.html</a>), it introduced me to machine shorthand, which, as it turned out, reinvented itself and is now used for real-time, high-level litigation work and live closed-captioning.  Formerly known as court reporters, real-timers and captioners are now in demand.  The US government is spending millions on training in this 'obsolete' shorthand (see <a href=\"http://ncraonline.org/NewsInfo/MediaRoom/House+passes+Higher+Ed+Reauthorization+bill.htm\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://ncraonline.org/NewsInfo/MediaRoom/House+...</a>), for which my IBM Mag Card word processing skills still come in handy.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_10:39:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "8fad546cfe6f90af4a417ad81273a046", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700866": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Wrong...<br><br>I still develop and print film by hand.  In fact, a lot of professional photographers do.  Digital photography is nice and has many uses but nothing will ever replace film.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_10:53:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "1423c62184c6c1d4ff8a3c480b4f7a8d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700867": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I and many others still use carbon paper and the white equivalent tracing paper... It's a must for making copies on anything you can't print to, like wood to be carved, metal templates, transferring a design for airbrushing....", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_11:05:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "e272d31b6079b82b18b90dc68010f3d5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700868": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Heh. I grew up with calculators (I'm 39), but I still taught myself to use a slide rule. Great hobby for a math geek, and I still use it sometimes. You have to carry the decimal point in your head, but otherwise it's perfectly adequate for lots of things.<br><br>They landed on the moon with slide rules. They built the atom bomb with slide rules. The Golden Gate Bridge, Hoover Dam, the Empire State Building--all built with slide rules.<br><br>And they even built the first computers--wait for it--with slide rules!<br><br>So don't knock 'em. :-)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_11:23:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "6508d860e045571ab4d9e62ee1764702", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700869": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Programming my mom's VCR to record soap operas, now THAT's obsolete.<br><br>I do still have a use for my carburetor adjusting skills, however. Fuel injection is still a fairly recent happening in the motorcycle world.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_11:25:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "453fc517007667816a00a24ca43c24ed", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700870": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "11. Changing the gas mixture on your car\u2019s carburetor.<br><br>I'm sorry, this is necessarily true... Only the \"true\" enthusiasts will know this skill... but for the average joe non-racer will never understand air-fuel mixture ratios...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_11:29:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "dd115775c24c9bddebb4d849b4a67226", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700871": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@132. 154 - Wreck<br>Gee. Still at it ... this musta hit a NERVE.<br><br>Family men are good men. They've stopped thinking about themselves, first and foremost, all the time.<br>Writing a real letter to your grandmother gets mega points.<br><br>Adapting is critical to survival. Choosing the right adaptation is also critical to survival. The car replaced the  horse. And what did it give us? Short term seeming convenience, freedom and POWER, but LONG TERM? Imagine America without them ... IMAGINE it. Consider the IMPACT socially, economically, environmentally, architecturally, spiritually. How would America look tomorrow without cars choking the life blood out of it? How OBSOLETE is that?<br><br>Women behind the wheel, by the way, ain't nothin' compared to a drugged-out transport-truck driver careening down your backside ... The worst driving I've ever experienced in my life was around Washington ... NO-ONE keeps their hands on the wheel or their eyes on the road - the drivers are too engaged with their gadgets - their GPS systems, Blackberrys, cellphones, coffee cups , Big Macs and subwoofer surround sounds system CD's - ETC. My back was broken in a car crash by such a  'disengaged' lunatic.<br><br>Give me a horse any day.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_12:01:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "b6a4cfcb03e8b501da830b02502c8136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700872": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Motorcycles still have carburetors :) (Ok, well, SOME of them do ... mine does).<br><br>_R", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_12:01:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "196bbb594904ab84b1d998006a784254", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700873": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I still have a rotary phone.  About forty years old.  Works well.  Works when the power is out.  The cordless phone batteries eventually fail, every touch-tone phone gets crud in the keys and starts to stick and fail.  But that old ATT black slug just works.  Probably will until the phone companies just stop supporting pulse technology.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_12:11:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "ccd12d6f6a3988f41efe199f30d7148b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700874": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Defrosting a refrigerator", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_12:12:26", "killed": false, "user_key": "89d734b571ccb5f5c94308f4c566591f", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700875": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "still using rabbit ears!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_12:18:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "2ef6b65af9f2b0e6ff09111ae26a4fb5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700876": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "My wife is an educator, and I have been all over the world in the military. It is a common misconception that we Americans are behind other countries in education. In most European countries, they only test the brightest. In the UK for example, if you don't do well in high school you just don't go to college, you work at a factory or something like that. Everyone doesn't get the opportunities we do. When you compare our kid's test scores with European scores, you have to remember we're comparing Europe's best with our average. If it was our best we'd be just as good as them. People put out stories about our test scores to make news. I'm not saying our system's perfect, but we're not doomed. If we were, we would have been overtaken by the Soviets. We were afraid of their test scores decades ago too, and look where we are today.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_12:23:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "796b9bf6f0ef51750d8878e14d42b3d7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700877": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Writing, Compiling and Running Computer programs using punch cards", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_12:36:01", "killed": false, "user_key": "f3d6688b9904b4019180c885f3aa3aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700878": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "black boards", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_12:46:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "8b401fa870f63f4dd6045f16f68ebc63", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700879": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@158,<br><br>I like my car, but we would be better of without them in the long run.<br><br>I'm still waiting for the transporter, ala Star Trek -- clean, efficient, fast. I could by fly fishing in Montana every weekend, or watching the wolves play in Alaska. Back to nature is where I long to be in quite a few ways.<br><br>I would miss watching Lost, Jericho, and Stargate Atlantis, though...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_12:54:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700880": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I have a rotary phone in my house.  It's hard wired to the wall and has a cloth chord to the receiver.  When I first bought my house, I had a flat tire.  I asked my then 9 year old (1995) to please to go the one phone the house had (rotary) and call for assistance.  He comes back and says to me \"Mom, I cant push the buttons.\"  I was stressed and annoyed.  I go over to the phone and realize that he has NEVER SEEN a rotary phone.  He didnt know how far to turn the dial.  That room is now his (2007) and he shows off the rotary phone to all his friends!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_13:04:54", "killed": false, "user_key": "46d0e77e56f4df4e9ad6589c3dfdcd1e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700881": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Obsolete Skills:<br>- How to remove a bottle of soda from one of those old-school soda machines...then opening it with a bottle opener.<br>- Opening old beer cans, actually had to pull off the tab...without breaking the key ring.<br>- How to survive without items that use electricity (grin). Any one with camping skills can do it.<br><br>Recently mostly-obsolete computer skills:<br>- How to download a file through a modem or serial port using Xmodem, Ymodem, Zmodem, Kermit.<br><br>Computer skills that aren't obsolete, even though lots of people think they are:<br>- RS232. There are tons of \"headless\" servers and electronics equipment that still have it as primary console or debug port. RS232 is too flipping cheap to add and get a connection to an embedded processor.  I didn't say that I love RS232, just that it isn't obsolete as some of you dumbasses think it is.<br>- DOS prompt. Yes, we don't do things at a true DOS prompt, but there is a console prompt that everyone in Linux and Unix still use, thus it isn't obsolete.  The DOS prompt is nothing more than a console prompt.<br><br>Very much obsolete computer skills:<br>- How to duplicate a Punch Card, how to submit a job batch using Punch Cards, and all Punch Card related skills.<br><br>Mostly obsolete computer skills:<br>- This list is extremely long, and not useful unless you need to restore data from an old computer.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_13:27:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "ed1925d6613ccc226a3343d9afee6a8e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700882": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Multimedia skills that are becoming obsolete:<br><br>threading a 8-mm or 16-mm film projector (except in schools)<br>splicing/editing film<br>placing slides in rotary/tray projectors<br><br>typesetting<br>manual kerning<br>correct ligature usage<br><br>using a payphone/emergency callbox (getting pretty rare in my state, even on rural roads)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_14:02:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "673f3c9fa6bf9be19e97698ec48d622d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700883": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The one skill above all others that is about to become obsolete is that of Fathering. 1 in 4 fathers in the western world will not see their children grow up due to divorce or separation. Check out URLs on parental alienation and the related issues. Within ten years 1 in 2 fathers will not see their children grow up. The second lost skill that is a direct result of this is that of being a child who can grow up with the support of two parents.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-21_03:53:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "31bf79413219e3477fc97862c5bac566", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700884": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I don't know that getting off of the couch can be considered a skill, whatever the purpose for doing so.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-21_02:05:14", "killed": false, "user_key": "12a3ac6cf57abf34018cb9cfb3963857", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700885": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I'm 16, but I have a healthy appreciation for the old stuff. I learned how to set the needle down carefully after far too many times watching it skate across my precious thrift store vinyl; I not only learned how to change tracks on 8-tracks, but how to manually resplice the tape so it wouldn't unspool when it hit the automatic track change; I've not only used a Selectric but regularly use an old Panasonic dot-matrix printer.<br><br>Old stuff is still cool stuff.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-21_01:19:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "59bbd2134efc625c3298789d925ee4a0", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700886": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hahaha, since when digital photograph is better than film?<br><br>   1.  Ever try using your best digital camera and shoot the color purple or violet?  And seeing the image afterward?<br><br>   2.  Moire is still a big issue with bayer CCD type - which currently represent 99% of digital camera.<br><br>   3.  Ever shoot real b+w film and print on high silver ?  compare it to a b+w digital, the film knock the socks off digital anyday.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_22:47:14", "killed": false, "user_key": "ed644878d7353b79017261420522735d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700887": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "How about AOL mass mail warez trading?  you would sign up for a free account with a bogus CC using a CC# generator, then join the warez or zeroday chat room and ask for a mass mail (mm me!).  People would forward you warez from their inbox.  you would then download the attachments. and return the favor when someone else asked for a mass mail.  It died when AOL started authorizing CC before you could sign up.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_22:05:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "73a55223ddd1077ab30e57c5991608b0", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700888": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I don't know about most of you but I still use the majority of those \"skills\" on a regular basis. Because equipment is old doesn't not make it obsolete.<br><br>Stan H. brings up an interesting, and important, issue, fathering.  Stan, I up the ante to use the term parenting which seems to have become obsolete as evidenced by the rude and dumber-than-dirt young people in the ole US of A. But maybe that is being driven by the media.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-21_12:22:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "7113c2399c5168230595fd2a07c2c06d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700889": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@159.<br><br>Well, until a transporter is 'reality', I guess we'll just have to keep using our limitless imaginations to take us to places in both past and future time: the hopelessly obsolete - and the not even imagined yet.<br><br>In the meantime I guess we'll also just have to keep using those old clunker-vehicles wedded to miles and miles of life-defying concrete to carry along our increasingly obsolete body parts  ...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_20:43:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "b6a4cfcb03e8b501da830b02502c8136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700890": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Umm, you call these \"Skills\"?<br>A skill is Carpentry.<br>A skill is Autorepair.<br>A skill is \"a craft, trade, or job requiring manual dexterity or special training in which a person has competence and experience: the skill of cabinetmaking.\"<br><br>Using Carbon paper is NOT a skill.<br>Neither is adjusting your tv's antenna!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_20:33:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "ab396664fcd8fee157b73083b5867e1d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700891": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "But I enjoy adjusting the Holley 650 on my 65 mustang!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-22_10:08:23", "killed": false, "user_key": "dbd1cc08e3b8a7561152a21b5920cc02", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700892": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "First of all:  I still have, and occasionally use, a rotary telephone.  And, \"developing film/photos\" is definitely NOT an obsolete skill!  Though I must admit, my darkroom has been mysteriously overrun by computers...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-21_15:55:22", "killed": false, "user_key": "8c6956ad6b6bd336f1c478b8e789f30d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700893": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "die hard obsolete skill:<br><br>sending faxes", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-21_16:07:35", "killed": false, "user_key": "061cbfad54a3eda8e3ce8429ea17e539", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700894": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "writing with the correct use of language rules (i.e. spelling, grammar, style, etc). That's all pretty obsolete these days.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-21_18:46:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "0409328f41b9fe8bb5f14af95b3009c5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700895": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "NASCAR still uses carbureted engines. The day there are no more carburetors just bury me in my Firebird. EFI is ok, but nothing rumbles like a classic car where the only electronics in the thing are the lights and the radio.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-21_23:15:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "0703fbf4f1226f1be162008bafa905d9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700896": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "setting up pointless wikis will be an obsolete skill within a week of this post. It should have been before this post started. How about stoking a steam engine boiler or hunting buffalo with flint spears. Get real everybody!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-21_21:54:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "5a14c59f9df151731ed3941fc4eb47fb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700897": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I've got one genuinely obsolete skill. I know how to adjust and repair all the old purely mechanical (non-electric, non-electronic) vending machines.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-25_03:03:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "08ecfc994233a60d2188c3265fb7c23b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700898": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Laugh...reading through these comments that contradict your list...methinks its evidence of the looooooooong tail!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-26_06:36:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "7140e3d06328c9f6274cf24126489550", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700899": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Sometimes I think people on the East/West coast forget there is a lot of people inbetween those two coasts and they might not always be as \"advanced\" as some of us.<br><br>I personally know people who have or do many of the things you listed above.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_22:32:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "61c41ac21625e2f68c830faa01063e15", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700900": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Geez.<br><br>Fishing? Do you know how to design, build and repair a boat? Make fishing line from animal gut? Carve hooks? Make a stone or metal tool to carve the hook with?<br><br>Cooking with charcoal for 11 days :rolleyes:? Do you know how to make charcoal?<br><br>Do you plan to eat anything but fish and meat, or do you know how to sustainably garden? Do you know how to make hunting weapons?<br><br>What about digging a safe well? Constructing a pump? Making pots to cook food and purify water? Making baskets to gather food?<br><br>Tanning animal hides? Retting or combing, spinning and weaving fibers?<br><br>It's amazing what passes for \"survival skills\" among people who've never had to do it for more than a couple of days. I guarantee you each one of the skills on this list takes more than \"a few hours\" to learn.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-03-26_07:32:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "88152d1a9908fa683b5b0ba0d11f617e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700901": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Proficient in both Freehand and Pagemaker...<br><br>HMK", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-03-10_14:32:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "68c46830e0c1593475b8b217b2ddc261", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700902": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Saaad list. Am I nostalgic?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_10:06:54", "killed": false, "user_key": "c417724235f96b2f375c2cbe76d0df55", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700903": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Wreck: I totally disagree with your characterization of Europeans. I found they rush just as much as we do (I've been in Europe three times in three months).<br><br>I'm so glad, though, that they are starting to ban smoking. Damn, is that a disgusting habit and ruins people's dinners.<br><br>If Europeans are so smart how come it took so long to get a clue about that issue?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_14:14:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700904": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Using a Mimeograph machine.<br><br>I remember the smell these made in my first school.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_09:34:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "cfb6fb518e13db7ca8935544c4d1ebf5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700905": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I actually tried to dial a rotary phone the other day, just for fun. There are obsolete skills, and then there are things you just forget how to do. It took me at least 4 attempts to dial the right number.<br><br>I never did really learn how to do long division properly so I'm not sad to see that go.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_08:41:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "ba40ffb78343446c95e1ca3199cb5e8a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700906": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Wreck, pls let me know when you strike an angle ... Happy Huntin'.<br><br>Setting up a blog is 'easy', relatively speaking. I mean, it's not as though you have to CARVE something with the strength and finesse of your own BARE HANDS ....<br><br>You can keep a blog 'private' until you're ready to 'launch'. If unfamiliar with the basics it can be a rather steep 'learning curve', [...methinks you do have programming under your belt...). It soon all becomes second nature. Part of the 'fun' here is to 'jump in' with others in the Wordpress community. Lots of  alternate p.o.v.'s, some wise, some dull, some brilliant, some insipid. Generally there is something of 'interest'.<br><br>Alternatively, give 'Stumbleupon.com' a gander. Now that's REALLY a wacky fun invigorating and interesting ride ...<br><br>Then again, CARVING is a far more demanding, exacting, time consuming personal CREATION that challenges the ever-fluctuating balance between your hand, eye, mind and heart. The 'audience' is limited, but the net result is something you can actually GIVE your grandchildren ....", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_16:13:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "b6a4cfcb03e8b501da830b02502c8136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700907": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@75: I prefer Yamamoto Tsunetomo, who didn't hold back at all:<br><br>\"A person who is said to be proficient at the arts is like a fool. Because of his foolishness in concerning himself with just one thing, he thinks of nothing else and thus becomes proficient. He is a worthless person.\"", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_16:01:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "97d540da0aee796ba07e9420099552b4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700908": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I've had entire jobs in the past that have depended on now obsolete skills. For example, I in college I worked in the language lab as an equipment tech. That involved:<br><br>Repairing/replicing cassette tapes<br>Copying cassette tapes with a high speed copier<br>Cleaning tape decks with alcohol and swabs<br><br>Even less than 10 years ago part of my tech support job involved dialing into systems remotely via modem. When we were having problems connecting with a customer, I'd go into the modem room to listen to the sounds and diagnose the the connection problem based on that. Evidently being able to tell the difference between modem speeds based on the sound is now a seriously obsolete skill, but it used to be really important.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_18:57:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "5c9f99bfe3e5af26f9089751e342b791", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700909": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "When somebody on TV tells me not to change the channel, he tells me \"don't touch that dial!\"<br><br>Ain't no dials on my TV.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_17:43:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "c1f99c2a2c7ac499eb4e0c0942afaa40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700910": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "That's a heart-wrenching list, Robert. It fair pulls at the nostalia strings.<br><br>I've added my addenda here: <a href=\"http://wiki.greywulf.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl/LupusGris/ObsoleteSkills\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://wiki.greywulf.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl/LupusG...</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_07:21:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "90ef098c30ca2f755f28cdc41b60e543", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700911": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hello!<br><br>Here is a nice vintage USB phone:<br><br><a href=\"http://www.retrothing.com/2007/01/misguided_techn.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.retrothing.com/2007/01/misguided_tec...</a><br><br>Cheers, ROman", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_06:54:48", "killed": false, "user_key": "73a7d953a6db677899933cd62b65f882", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700912": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Using a paper template underneath typing paper to estimate the spacing for footnotes (this was grueling) in term papers.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_10:59:07", "killed": false, "user_key": "fac666011e9c94e6dc22810e623c3bb9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700913": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Laying out newsletters by gluing down lines of type ordered from a print shop", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_11:02:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "fac666011e9c94e6dc22810e623c3bb9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700914": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Using Windows.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_19:35:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "7cb19373f7b4f85e63e634c47e1d9678", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700915": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@7 Julie:  Pens with correction fluid?  That's after my time -- I was thinking of stencil correction fluid for mimeos, or Wite-Out in the bottle, both of which I hope are obsolete.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_19:51:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "e3bbad26e750d773a625787577807a9c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700916": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "David Singer @6: Students still use those pens with correction fluid. I've lost track of the number my kid has gone through.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_19:35:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "421c2fc9e921e967b2ccc191fe00f54b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700917": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Watching my HD DVD movies...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_19:21:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ab2395ae27d9d25c434fb25e71765b9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700918": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Editing movies with a cutter knife and glue?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_19:21:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "f96b9a0309e32b48bdd7a238f7a4ad23", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700919": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Here's one I don't miss....feeding the tape that got eaten back into cassettes &amp; VHS tapes!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_18:56:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "c235a74ef27f64ff7f1d8f0bdc09fe00", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700920": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Using correction fluid.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_19:16:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "e3bbad26e750d773a625787577807a9c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700921": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I still have records which I listen to, and I've been to places where they still had rotary phones.<br><br>But I do not miss carbon paper.<br><br>Strangely enough I am actually thinking about getting a film camera again, as b/w photos are not really cutting it when it comes to digital photos.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_19:16:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "da7dd7c976831e34f7fd6ec383a6a3e1", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700922": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "OMFG! \"Using a slide rule\"? You are soooooo old, dude. ;-)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_18:52:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "d7dad3d53a710ee1dd874c67d6605521", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700923": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "And here I am sifting through negatives today.<br><br>Actually, rabbit ears have made a bit of a comeback. I know people who use them to pick up OTA HDTV signals.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_18:54:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "421c2fc9e921e967b2ccc191fe00f54b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700924": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Reid @1: I still buy vinyl. I still have something capable of playing 78 RPM records.<br><br>I am older than dirt.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_18:56:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "421c2fc9e921e967b2ccc191fe00f54b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700925": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "RE: No. 2<br><br><br>I work in the Hifi industry in the UK, and we're currently selling turntables over CD players around 2:1. Also, i run an indie label, and like most others, we primarily press to vinyl...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_18:49:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "4361be1cce37fea1d0ade31281bab8f1", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700926": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@99,<br><br>I agree with your assessment of real programmers. The Steve Wozniaks are few and far between.<br><br>A good programmer should know things down to the machine level. They all used to back in the day, but now, if you can type, you can call yourself a programmer.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_11:56:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700927": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Love this topic!<br>How about opening the garage door manually, popping popcorn on the stove, tea in a kettle, looking in the newspaper for movie times at the cinema, buying a map instead of mapquesting directions,......<br>The list is endless.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_12:11:04", "killed": false, "user_key": "39b5cee728f5f3319738f4cc9bb942c3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700928": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I forgot to add that western peoples have this hangup with having the latest and greatest. For some people, it's a disease almost.<br><br>My last trip to the EU a couple of years ago really opened up my eyes to some things I was wondering about.<br><br>How does the average European live in terms of gadgets?<br><br>How do they see gadgets compared to Americans?<br><br>Well, I visited a few home while over there, people from all walks of life and people with a range of salaries. Not one -- NOT ONE -- had a big screen TV. They all had average sized TVs. None of them had more than one laptop or desktop computer. One family had two, but that's because the daughter was a student at university. Dad told me they would have never bought it otherwise.<br><br>Europeans love texting. They use it so much more than Americans do. There are phone plans in the EU that only offer texting. Everyone almost uses it. I hate it, but that's me.<br><br>I have a plain jane phone that does calls only. I need nothing else. I have no interest in being bothered unless required.<br><br>I personally know people who buy every iteration of Mac or other computer brand that comes out, and they wonder why they cannot afford to ever eat out once in a while. They also buy every stupid tech toy they see that they like. Computers should last at least 3 years, preferrably 5, but the hardware/software companies keep ugrading stuff forcing new hardware/software if you want to use the newest stuff. No thanks.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_11:51:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700929": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "How about *fixing stuff* instead of throwing it away and buying new?  That goes along with @75.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_09:59:07", "killed": false, "user_key": "5e89e247cafd3151b66f160d4a29729e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700930": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "1. Using a DOS prompt.<br>2. Using an 8\", 5.25\", 3.5\" floppy disk/drive.<br>3. Using a CRT monitor.<br>4. Being able to locate my shoes quickly.<br>5. Bathing at 4 AM before my now obsolete commute.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_10:02:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "7594126d924969f4b8f184da7fdf8524", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700931": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@89,<br><br>No site yet. I'm toying with the idea of starting my own blog, but I haven't figured out what kind of angle I want to launch it from or who the audience might be.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_11:21:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700932": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Well, you know what the say about the 'original' lightbulb ... obselescence was a deliberate 'marketing' ploy.<br><br>Wreck, do you have a 'site'? There's no 'link' here.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_11:18:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "b6a4cfcb03e8b501da830b02502c8136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700933": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@87,<br><br>One of the problems with the western world in general is that we devloped a \"throw-away\" mentality. If it's broken, toss it out and acquire a new one.<br><br>I remember as a kid (I'm 40 now) seeing quite a few TV and stereo repair shops. They're all gone. People don't repair stuff anymore -- they throw it out and make another trip to their local Best Buy or Fry's.<br><br>I know people who buy laptops and when anything breaks, they buy a new one.<br><br>I honestly do believe, though, that there is some planned obselescence in modern electronics, but not so much with older stuff.<br><br>My grandparents bought one of those huge Zenith console TVs back in the early 70s. It still works, but I replaced it with a modern flat panel because of the digital-only broadcasts coming up soon. Had it not been for this, they would still be using it. It was over thirty years old and still just fine.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_11:00:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700934": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "What's a slide rule? hehe :-)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_10:21:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "612dc586c61ab7275716673e611e9da6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700935": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I get so sick of the SELF RIGHTEOUS. Every time you step on a jet and zoom off to destinations unknown for a 'visit' you are spewing more toxic noxious 'obnoxious &amp; offensive' TONS of crappola into the atmosphere than ANY itty bitty 'smoker'. Get off your high horses and put away the whip. Smokers ae AWARE of their 'obsessive-compulsive addiction'. Are YOU - high-end disposable gadget geeks?<br><br>Not everyone on the planet wants to live like you guys ... Peas are not pumpkins, horses are not bears ... Bio-diversity and individuality is essential for species survival.<br><br>And, for all of those of you who are somewhat cavalierly just 'throwing stuff' out .... SHAME.<br>WHERE do you think all that extraneous JUNK goes?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_10:21:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "b6a4cfcb03e8b501da830b02502c8136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700936": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "We're still teaching shorthand to Journalists here at CJS in Cardiff (possibly the UK's most renowned journalism school).   Lecturers here could name plenty of big court cases that revolved around the use of shorthand.<br><br>As for film photography...  Shame on you, Mr. Scoble.  There are plenty of reasons that film photography will be with us for many many years, and not all of them are cold and rational :)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_08:49:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "f2b09dab26714e2ed3d6b4d708143e91", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700937": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "How to change the background and border color on a commodore 64 ( poke 53280,0 : poke 53281,1 )", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_16:48:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "939ba8fd56c2eeec27f60917ba95df42", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700938": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "How about drilling a hole in the corner of a 720KB 3.5\" floppy so it would hold 1.44MB?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_09:42:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "892139a61393c040ee55db98360cb7c0", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700939": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "#11. Lots of motorcycles still use carburetors and with fuel prices being up, people are digging out older 80s cars and firing them up. Also the high performance crowd still uses carburetors and in my experience can often get better mileage!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_09:05:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "cbfee713a29d8edd557653a0365635b2", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700940": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Obsolete skill #1: running WinDoze!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_08:39:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "f4af1d16e5af86bb16ddebe5bd45e4ba", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700941": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Skills long overdue to be dead:<br>- Writing lameass blog articles", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_08:06:01", "killed": false, "user_key": "bea33e4e2a318af0fadcad88ed5414f8", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700942": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I have never seen such a small-minded, parochial, ego-centric group as you lot. Look at what you're writing: \"X will be obsolete just because I don't do it\".<br>Judging by a lot of the comments, a significant proportion of the posters can't differentiate a \"skill\" from an activity. For example, putting a needle on a vinyl record is not a skill, it's simply a mechanical action. Getting off the couch to change TV channels is another example.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_08:06:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "696a8ef07541837dff58a76d86434c58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700943": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I dunno, some of these don't exactly require \"skill\". Maybe obsolete \"tasks\"?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_08:18:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "5bd5b58326764635a9c5c85e29877eb9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700944": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "What about all of the rituals related to superstitions which are no longer followed. For instance\u2026<br><br>It was bad luck to light three cigarettes with one match. Even now, I have warned people about doing this with a lighter. The theory was that if you were in a foxhole the enemy had a better chance of seeing where you were the longer the match was lit.<br><br>Another good one is finding a penny on the ground with tails side up. Long considered to be bad luck, there was a way around the jinx. If you look and consciously read the date and mint mark you would be fine. But does anyone care nowaday? Nope. Now you're lucky to even find someone who'll take the time to pick up a penny.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_08:19:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "2ad287f9b5507005abb7a16a833a7152", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700945": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I know how to operate all the hot-type equipment necessary to produce printed paper documents, like a Mergenthaler linotype, and I could take a pretty good swing at operating the photogravure end of the shop as well.<br><br>That's where you prepare to print photographs on paper without a computer, by shooting a line negative and using the resulting \"xx dots per inch\" negative to etch zinc plates using nitric acid.<br><br>I can also milk a cow or goat, although my experience is all with cows I've seen others do goats and it looks pretty easy compared to a cow.<br><br>Butchering in the back yard, OK, gross but necessary if you farm and keep pigs or chickens.<br><br>Producing canned food from a garden in my kitchen?  Been there, like it OK.<br><br>Hex debugging, the worst bug I ever found was an unprintable character that occurred right where a decimal point should have been!!<br><br>I could go on, this is very interesting...  debugging electronics by turning off the lights and looking to see the dark tubes...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_08:03:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "35bf4468cdd0972783a78fc30909e81a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700946": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Though I have high speed internet and can't live without it, I can live without television so I utilize the rabbit ear adjusting daily.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_07:31:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "6f79728b1212d4f91647b9e0095a61eb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700947": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Developing Film/Fotos... nu-uh, not quite yet.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_06:55:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "24191827e60cdb49a3d17fb1befe951b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700948": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Double de-clutching!<br><br>Operating a column shift gear change!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_06:04:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "cdef28d31c62626a7ff25f01580bec94", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700949": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "In my office I have the LARGE Faber Castell slide rule, used in tuition, mounted on one wall as well as an IBM golf ball typewriter, a single cylinder steam engine and my IBM systems design template.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_05:59:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "a8f713ad522fd8cfcd4d46a07921b064", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700950": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Mr. Scoble,<br><br>Just because you are a new tech geek, does not make these older technologies obsolete.<br><br>A true audiophile does vinyl.<br><br>A car hobbyist adjust carburetors.<br><br>Shorthand has morphed to typehand.<br><br>Plenty of writers still use a typewriter.<br><br>Older folks still need rabbit ears, or those who like living in the mountains or deep in the heart of the country. Of course, they are about to have the rabbit die with the Draconian Digital Directive.<br><br>And don't turn a blind eye to the rest of the world - most of it depends on older technology.<br><br>Next you will be telling me rolling dice is obsolete because of computer gaming; not me, I am a dedicated boardgamegeek!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_08:33:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "b9de548ad78617b93650ad734b93f796", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700951": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I can't believe this thing lets me keep posting comments ! I'll stop now.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_19:04:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "0d9ee0b6d00a24b50d2bbb6c2849aa5d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700952": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "how about kickstarting a motorcycle? rapidly going out of style this one.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-03-06_05:01:34", "killed": false, "user_key": "9e9736edbb6dab537357a1cbc545b92d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700953": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "How about Banyan Vines as an obsolete skill ?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_18:58:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "0d9ee0b6d00a24b50d2bbb6c2849aa5d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700954": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "or Windows NT 3.51 Print queue administrator", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_18:59:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "0d9ee0b6d00a24b50d2bbb6c2849aa5d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700955": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Man this is a short-sighted list... old things do not die that quickly.<br><br>I'm 22 and have done many of the things on that particular list within the last 10 years, and I know others who have more often, too. Not quite sure that allows them to be considered \"obsolete\".<br><br>Don't court reporters still use shorthand? They did when I was a kid!<br><br>Response to other comments:<br>In my field (engineering) we have to know how to do everything on the fly... napkins are more useful than you think... mental math is required frequently. For tests, we're often not allowed to use calculators (one of my professors did let us use slide rules just for fun). All of Europe it seems writes ONLY in cursive... I write in cursive to write more quickly sometimes.<br><br>Anyways, many people are busy keeping up with the Joneses, but there are trade-offs involved with using any new technology, and many of us do not see a reason to switch from some old methods. Many times I've found it's good I kept a \"paper\" copy in this digital age. And we all know how wonderful these new cars with all the electronics are to fix... but then, this is just an engineer talking, and we're known to be a strange minority in this nation.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_18:49:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "71aeb480b6307cc5b1054398a1bac7f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700956": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "She'd be good for #9 though......", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_18:44:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "0d9ee0b6d00a24b50d2bbb6c2849aa5d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700957": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "As for #10, I was at a biker's house one time and the only way we were able to see the channel was when his ol' lady was holding the rabbit ears. So, he made her hold them while we watched TV. We brought her beer and passed the smoke to her. I guess she's out of a job now.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_18:43:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "0d9ee0b6d00a24b50d2bbb6c2849aa5d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700958": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Don't discount # 11 just yet. I have a 68 corvette stingray that I adjust the mixture on frequently. Anyone restoring old cars would use that skill. I don't know if you've seen the auctions lately for restored cars, but they ain't cheap.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_18:38:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "0d9ee0b6d00a24b50d2bbb6c2849aa5d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700959": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I bought a pair of circular slide rules at CONCISE (Japan). This guys keep producing them and we (old weirds) keep buying and using them. So what?<br><br>If you are interested: <a href=\"http://www.concise.co.jp/eng0731/circle02.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.concise.co.jp/eng0731/circle02.html</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_17:50:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "02cc77596a57eb588c40b90ef43515b2", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700960": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Are dames allowed to 'play' survival too?<br><br>Or is it just back to barefoot in the kitchen for us wenches as we shake rattle &amp; roll them big ol' pots and pans ???<br><br>I STILL think that most of this post is about MONEY, one way or the other, who's got it to 'throw it away' - and who don't.<br><br>Happy Huntin fellas.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_17:33:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "b6a4cfcb03e8b501da830b02502c8136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700961": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "thats it, brother", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-03-26_16:15:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "f8a70af8818bf44c8b7539b2460fb2e9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700962": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I don't think anyone has mentioned Morse code as a lost skill.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_13:14:54", "killed": false, "user_key": "e4b83471a8f939c5f21248f2907d36be", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700963": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Scoble,<br><br>I'm glad you have some good skills; most geeks don't.<br><br>I haven't conjured up any wonderful world in my head. It's called being prepared. I spent 7 years in the military. I learned to adapt, overcome, or die. No more, no less. I don't dwell on the possibility, but I'll be ready should it happen.<br><br>You have to remember the old adage, though. Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll eat for the rest of his life.<br><br>Scoble, running out of food will never be an issue. It's the coasts and big cities that will have issues with food, since 80% of the population lives on the coasts. Us \"rednecks\" in the middle of the country have far fewer worries. :) There are more cattle and fish here than humans by about 1000 times over. One benefit of living in the middle of nowhere is there are fewer mouths to feed.<br><br>Skills that you would need would have to be great ones:<br><br>- medical skills would be chief among them<br>- mechanic, ability to fix things right up there<br>- ability to actually sail a boat and fish<br>- ability to hunt<br>- self-defense<br>- ability to leave the coast and find a better life<br><br>Great little article on a basic survival kit that actually fits in an Altoid tin.<br><br>There are 19 slides to this...<br><br><a href=\"http://www.fieldandstream.com/fieldstream/photogallery/article/0%2C13355%2C1225788%2C00.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.fieldandstream.com/fieldstream/photo...</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_13:55:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700964": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Roller skate keys", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-22_18:24:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "9e5a521d4f62002e45ed895ce336ec5a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700965": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Where's the beef?!!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-22_18:25:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "9e5a521d4f62002e45ed895ce336ec5a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700966": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I was without electricity for 10 days following Hurricane Wilma. We quickly learned to cook *everything* on a charcoal grill.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_21:33:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "052b51c329476fd3f72463cbea5fec53", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700967": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "sounds similar to one of the above:<br><br>using a floppy to boot up an apple IIe or one of those that have 8-in. screens...back in the early 90s", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_19:43:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "5b37b9dc51fc2ab090bc4250d2f76ecb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700968": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "A lot of things people list as obsolete skills are not skills at all.<br><br>Writing checks is not a skill.<br>Dialing a phone is not a skill.<br>Watching TV and hooking up DVD player is not a skill.<br><br>Skills are learned and maintained. Woodworking is a skill. Being a mechanic is a skill. Hunting and fishing are skills. Living on the land is a skill. Riding horses is a skill. Using a map and compass are skills. Gardening well is a skill. Knowing what plants and animals to eat in the forest are skills.<br><br>Skills require training, whether formal or self-learned. They are something you master or come close to mastering, and only come with repetition and making mistakes.<br><br>Programming is a skill, but it's useful only in the context of having a computer. Life goes so far beyond tech. The vast majority of the world could care less about tech. They are too worried about eating and surviving.<br><br>We in the western world are blessed in that we have these technical things to make our lives easier and fun, but the real skills our children should be developing are not being addressed anymore. Some school systems don't even teach cursive anymore. Shame on them.<br><br>I can tell you that my kid will learn how to fish, hunt, shoot, clean animals, make a fire with only things found in nature, read a map and use a compass, cook, change a car tire, basic electricity (compute voltage, ohms, amp requirements), and a whole host of other useful things.<br><br>I was fortunate to have been raised in an area that values the old skills -- and still does. People here have computers, yet they see it as a tool, like a hammer. There is not an abundance of tech here.<br><br>I recall when living on the east coast, the power went out when I was at a doctor appointment. The entire place relied on computers and electricity. Since the doctor could not pull up my info on his laptop, I was forced to make another appointment, but I had to call in the next day to do so, because the receptionist couldn't log the new appointment in her computer. They couldn't even get their backup generator to work that day. I'm glad this was a clinic and not a hospital with patients tied to life-saving machines like breathers and dialysis. Losers.<br><br>Oddly enough, the same thing happened after I moved back to the southwest. I was at the doctor with my kid when a thunderstorm overhead caused the power to go. The doctor had paper records and a flashlight. He was able to see my kid with no problems. He wrote a prescription on a paper chit and we left. I made a follow-up appointment with the receptionist before leaving. She did this using a paper calander for that particular doctor. Old school? Yes. Effective? You betcha!<br><br>We will one day regret our reliance on tech and it's going to sting mightily. Those people with the skills that the east and left coasties (and other big city dwellers) deride as being \"old-skool\" or \"redneck\" will serve well. They will eat, drink, and go about life fairly well, while their tech-reliant counterparts will be reduced to groveling for government handouts -- or worse, rioting in the streets to meet their basic reqirements.<br><br>When that happens, I'll be down at the river with a fishing pole catching bass or catfish or in the forest with a recurve bow perforating Bambie. We'll eat and drink well. Tivos, blogs, and the Java vs .NET arguments will be useless and forgotten.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_12:20:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700969": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@121,<br><br>\"Dames\" as you put it are always welcome. :)<br><br>Women are just as intelligent as men, despite what some men like to think.<br><br>Women, however, still the hell out of me when they are behind the wheel. :)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_19:59:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700970": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Just because I work with digital media all day doesn't mean I don't still listen to music in vinyl.<br>In fact my 3 year old daughter is competent enough to use my vinyl collection needple drop and all.<br><br>The reason vinyl still wins for me is that it's an excellent user interface for manipulating music, none of this 'vinyl sounds warmer crap' it's all about scratching and cutting.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_20:00:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "e5e33b2cd2c2ca10c3727b4a1f0524cd", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700971": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Actually, several of those skills are still very useful to me today.  See website if interested.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_12:02:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "bc2b79bb3456c528519bf6df3b2440f3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700972": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Robert, congrats on a great thread. My contributions:<br><br>- Listening<br>- Having equity in a house<br>- Paper routes<br>- a federal balanced budget<br>- Carrying your clubs while playing a round of golf<br><br>btw, I must strongly disagree with your premise that Europeans \"rush just as much as we do\". I lived in Europe for 6 years. Dining out there is a wonderful, languid experience that can take 3-4 hours. Dining out in the U.S. is like being in fast forward, with those idiotic, blaring TVs mounted everywhere to ensure an actual conversation doesn't break out!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_12:28:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "5312f28518326510f817574877969162", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700973": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Personal Ensign: heheh, when I have a meal like that in Europe I chalk it up to poor service. I don't try to justify it to foreigners as a \"feature.\" :-)<br><br>Seriously, you are eating in the wrong places in the United States. If you want to slow down and take three hours for a meal I know quite a few places to send you.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_12:48:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700974": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Cutting out a little notch in a single-sided 5.25\" diskette so that you can use both sides.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_12:43:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "67cf583abf10167cebb635f49bfd6433", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700975": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Wreck: funny enough, I have all those skills (my dad taught them to me). My son, Patrick's new step-dad is a guy just like you, by the way. So he's learning all those skills too.<br><br>The thing is that if there were some major disaster that took down our power and connectivity grids for weeks enough of us would self teach each other these skills that we'd fish out every single lake and stream within a three day drive of the coasts. So, what will you do then? I guess eat dandelion leaves for a while. Wonderful world you conjure up in your head.<br><br>I sure hope I never need those skills again, but if I do they don't take more than a few hours to relearn (or teach to other people).<br><br>You also miss that I live walking distance to the ocean. So, as long as our fishing boats can go out to sea we'll have lots of food where I live. No skills needed other than something of value to trade for the food.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_12:53:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700976": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I live in Northern Vermont, and I'm here to tell you that many of the obsolete things you listed are still alive and well here. I still write checks, make out deposit slips, use Windows and WordPerfect, correction tape when necessary. I even cook, sew, sing, and am able to put windshield wiper fluid in my car.<br>You people need to get a life. Sitting in front of a computer is nowhere.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_11:18:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "d25f1f7d559a6b8dcb5ec6951b115fd4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10366087": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Personally filtering the noise by reading every tweet and feed...<br><br>Really, Google Wave and Twitter's Search are about to make our over-friend-subscription tendencies a thing of the past. I'm subscribing more and more to search based feeds instead of individual bloggers. My news consumption is now an aggregation of search based aggregations.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-01_17:46:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "sol", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11050813": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I hope you're wrong about film becoming obsolete. I prefer working at capturing a great picture to the easy does it approach. Shoot, view, erase, retake. Where's the art in that?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-17_12:51:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "7a53ceccc9d794078e3b5837d6b92d4c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "15501671": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "1. Using \"White-out\"<br>2. knowing how to \"mimeograph\"", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-08-27_19:11:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "Beren1hand", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "3 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700766": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I'm raising teenagers here in america, and am embarrassed to admit that since velcro replaced laces/grommets, my daughter took her time learning how to tie her shoes.  When I was a youngster, that was an acknowledged mileston.<br>Also, my kids, until they were fairly old, would double check an analog clock with a digital.  They stiil aren't comfortable with the \"to\" or \"til\" side of the clock.  It's 9:45, NOT a quarter to ten.  Yikes.  And these kids have brains the size of planets, excellent teachers, and two old fart engineers for parents!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-03-04_16:17:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "bf0b2e6784c065635ebc29886314f77c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700767": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "This list is halfway to idiotic.  It represents the can't-do list of a couple of coastal American white boy geeks who live in a tiny world whose world is limited to the computer screen.  These people think they are in some position to declare something obsolete because they themselves don't use a skill in their tiny, uniformed world?  Can you spell h-u-b-r-i-s or is that obsolete?  The skills on the list that are truly obsolete are limited to the flash-in-the-pan world of computers.  The rest are things the boys are just not familiar with.  Duh.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-03-03_12:02:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "128cfde3f8ab557e073ab35619390171", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700768": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The Dewey Decimal System is alive and well in Australia, but drive-ins are long gone, and I haven't seen a rotary phone in decades.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-29_19:45:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "7865c091970024aad1ec415c570abe63", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700769": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Driving stick. (Disclaimer: I drive stick, and I think it's way more fun, and has a bunch of other advantages, but I have a feeling that by 2015, it'll basically be impossible to buy a new car with a standard.  If better automatics don't kill them outright, hybrids and electrics will.)<br><br>Other already-useless car skills: Cranking your engine with a hand crank.  Three on the Tree.  Double clutching.  Pumping your (non-ABS) brakes.  Rolling up a window with a crank.  Reaching across to unlock the passenger-side door.  Hand signals (even though we're still required to know them).<br><br>Sharpening wooden pencils.  (I think my grandfather is the last one in my family to do it well with a knife, and the way things are going, I think I may be the last to do it with a pencil sharpener, even.)<br><br>Sharpening a knive with a sharpening stone.  (Everybody has those \"just stick the blade in the slot\" jobs now.)<br><br>Converting units by hand.  Using log tables.<br><br>The dewey decimal system.  (My elementary school had the only library I've ever seen that uses it.  Everybody else uses Library of Congress.)<br><br>The British system of measures?  Eh, well, I can dream.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_02:33:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "97d540da0aee796ba07e9420099552b4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700770": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Shorthand obselete? Tell that to court reporters in the UK? I trained as a journalist 20 years ago and shorthand was the most useful skill I acquired. Still use it. Wish I'd known it before I went to university (would have been a real help in lectures).<br>To be able to take notes that few others in the meeting can read can be very helpful, very often...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_04:19:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "be3e1d678650329e9c141565abe9871c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700771": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Bill: digital sensors are already bigger than the size of a 35mm film frame. I've seen several digital medium format cameras lately.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_21:41:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700772": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "While the \"skills\" (I don't know if dialing a rotary phone is really a skill) or actions may be obsolete, how long will it take for language to change? We still talk about CC: (carbon copy) even when we e-mail a copy to someone. And how can you say a cell phone \"rings\"?<br><br>And for photography, how much longer will we be comparing digital sensors to the size of a 35mm film frame? What happens when DSLR sensors become larger than this, will we call them *super* full frame cameras?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_21:26:54", "killed": false, "user_key": "9b17e0a4e0bffb385052cede347c0b3e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700773": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"- speaking any language other than English\"<br><br>Depends whether you want to talk to a) your landscaper b) the Chinese or Saudi guy who just bought your company.<br><br>Obsolete skills:<br><br>--filling in paper bank deposits slips.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_21:17:20", "killed": false, "user_key": "d446ec980669af5d8c2f161e42f53894", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700774": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I think tolerating the Modem Howl is an obsolete skill. The same goes for fluency in modem configuration for a PPP client.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_06:34:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "117ab1c79f206364e342f2c2b72c8cea", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700775": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "How about fast-forwarding a cassette tape while holding the Play button down slightly to listen for the gaps between songs? With CDs and mp3s, this is definitely an obsolete skill.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_07:06:20", "killed": false, "user_key": "e9cf3e3883ae4ba33106f26e8e961f9c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700776": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Other \"skills::<br><br>Setting the station on a push button radio.<br>Checking the water level in the car battery<br>Using three buttons to adjust the color on the TV<br>Three button TV remote<br>Replacing tubes in the TV.<br>Watching music videos on MTV<br>Driving a manual column shifting transmission<br>Manually calculating change when using a cash register<br>Filling out a withdrawal slip to take cash out of your bank account<br>Dialing \"O\" and actually talking to an operator.<br>Dialing the number for the correct time<br>Understanding what to do about Global Cooling<br>\"Danger, Will Robinson\"<br>\"Phasers on stun\"<br>\"To the Bat Cave!\"<br>The code to silence the screeching sound of a modem<br>Sending a Telex<br>ride in a car without seat belts<br>sitting next to your 'boyfriend/girlfriend\" on the bench seat in the front of your car.<br>Anticipating the cartoon before the movie<br>Eventually..Drive-In movies<br>putting in that insert in the 45 record<br>listening to the \"B\" side of a 45 record<br>Riding in the third seat of a station wagon facing out the back window<br>Playing \"Pong\"<br>How to format a 5.25 floppy disk<br>creating a batch file via edlin<br>Reel-to-Reel tape recorders<br>Look something up in an encyclopedia<br>How to really \"steal\" music (walk out of the store with a record\"<br>To get \"porn\" you had to steal if from your older brother, or bribe some homeless person to buy it for you.<br>Using a TV Guide to see what was on TV.<br>Waiting ALL week for cartoons--only on Saturday mornings<br>Making popcorn by heating up oil in a pan an waiting for it to start popping", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_00:51:01", "killed": false, "user_key": "7842a5426980daab1a30692edce4889a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700777": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I think a lot of dj's and the audiophiles prefer Turntables for mixing.<br><br>And as the last generation that just about learned slide rules before switching to calculators - I must get a slid rule to keep on the desk to go with my RPN  HP Calculator  - though I believe that Pilots still use a special purpose slide rule.<br><br>Re Europe<br><br>Yes an no to the slower pace some areas  are still some what in the 70's (try getting Telephonica to fix a phone quickly in Spain) and its only France that has the 35hour work week though the non uk states do have more public holidays.<br><br>I used to work with some one who had managed peoplein SV and in the uk and he reckoned that in SV people spent a lot more time goofing off at the water cooler and taking long weekends to go skiing. That there was effectively no difference in the amount of work even with the 4-5 week holidays we had in BT vs 2 weeks in SV.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_04:29:35", "killed": false, "user_key": "5ac56f044b03ae8991511ccfc1910505", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700778": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "How about Visual J++, Windows 3.1, and Windows NT? I can't even sell my old books on that technology.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_00:14:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "ffa494c82233139bbc0d7effdcd94cf2", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700779": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "You Could Add<br><br>Wireing a plug/Changing a fuse in a plug<br><br>Soldering your own rs232 leads - and the anoyance you felt when you reaised you hand't put the hoods on first :-)<br><br>I still think you can't be a real programmer with being able to use a soldering iron", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_11:28:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "5ac56f044b03ae8991511ccfc1910505", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700780": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "-Skill #1: used a rotary phone for a few years when growing up (thanks to being in rural Alaska).<br>-Skill #5: I own, and know how to use, a slide rule<br>I still use skill 10 regularly.<br>-Skill #8: My typewriter wasn't even electric.<br>-And I regularly use skills #9 and #10 even now (old television set, lousy reception, and no cable).<br><br>How about these:<br>-A slideshow with actual slides<br>-changing the ribbon head in a dot-matrix printer", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_02:33:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "720ab0d5c1c8669a6adb4f586c1d75ea", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700781": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "My 80 year old grandparents in Portugal have a rotary phone. I was there for 3 weeks recently and it was driving me mad. When i first got there my cell phone's international plan wasn't working so i called AT&amp;T-of course i could not use the prompts to get to the right person, after a long time (a long distance call) on hold finally someone came on- when i told him i couldn't hit the prompts because i was on a rotary phone the guy goes- 'what is that?' after explaining he probably though Portugal was a backwards country- i told him that my grandparents are just slow to change!<br><br>I have told them that it is not safe- if they have an emergency dialing a rotary phone is probably not the quickest way to get the ambulance to come. But she likes the way it looks (it is a nice old phone)!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_00:00:24", "killed": false, "user_key": "9b2fbc4e49ab4f43bbe592bed1f96957", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700782": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "handwriting. the nuns beat it into me, and I used to turn out quite a nice and legible chicken scratch. Now, because of the computer keyboard, when I try to write with a pen and paper, I've actually forgotten how.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_02:11:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "Swift2", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700783": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "That's funny. A lot of the 20-somethings here in S.F. still use/buy records and at least one or two people I know use medium-format film cameras.<br><br>Also: a lot of young people still use MySpace instead of Facebook. Why? Every MySpace band lets you stream their music on your page, and you can customize the hell out of your page. Facebook is ugly and no one's profile looks interesting.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_02:18:07", "killed": false, "user_key": "4ed6575f04d5a02971af79c7ac4bfe4f", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700784": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "While I am a necrocomputing hobbyist (DECSYSTEM-20 in the garage and all that), I don't have to draw upon that to gainsay one item on your list.<br><br>Pilots of aircraft still use sliderules, usually called the E6B. Yes, there are battery powered calculators that do the same thing, but they don't fit around the bezel of a watch.<br><br>Oh yeah, we read paper maps too.<br><br>It's an odd industry. General aviation is only now coming around to such \"novelties\" as Full Authority Digital Engine Control. There are also more than a few carbureted engines still in service.<br><br>Even I have to admit that I prefer electronic ignition to magnetos, but there is a quaint and unmistakable reliability to that technology.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_22:12:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "be920146f08f1944037880f94eac6fae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700785": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@66,<br><br>Amen. When the lights do go out, the satellites fail, or we get hit with a big EMP, people with no old-skool skills are the ones going to be rioting for food and goods.<br><br>Skills that I consider mandatory, even today:<br><br>1) math with pencil and paper<br>2) hunting using various methods<br>3) fishing using various methods<br>4) start a fire with stuff from the forest or desert<br>5) land navigation, map reading, how to use a compass<br>6) self-defense using various methods<br>7) build an expedient shelter<br><br>I think Robert Heinlein puts it perfectly:<br><br>A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_21:40:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700786": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@48,<br><br>I think people are lazy at best. The vast majority of the world still cooks from scratch. The microwave has been the death knell to good, home-based meals. People would rather nuke their dinner than take time to make a meal and spend time with the family.<br><br>There is no reason families cannot enjoy cooking together and have family time at the table. The lion's share of the planet's people remain focused on the family and meals. Tell a Greek to nuke their food and they'll look at you like you're nuts. Same goes for the Chinese. Even the richest Chinese and Japanese still largely prepare steamed rice and veggies/meat/fish on a daily basis.<br><br>The US has become nothing more than a shell of what it once was. This country was at its best in the 50s, all discoveries aside. Family means less and less to the average person now. Eating with family is declining in this country. Eat and go is the new mantra. Restaurants want you in and out as quickly as possible. Back in the day, restaurants wanted you to sit, take your time, eat, be merry. Now, they remind you by bringing you the bill (get out).<br><br>Ever been to Europe, especially France, Greece, Spain, Portugal, where they spend copious amounts of time at the table talking, eating, drinking. That's the ways it's supposed to be. Americans rush, rush, rush. There's no need for it. Our processed food has seen a rise in cancer, diabetes, and obesity.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_11:56:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700787": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Ken: I've been to Europe dozens of times in my life. The three trips is just in the past three months. My mom was born in Germany, many of my relatives still live there. My wife's brother lives in Wales. So, I have a pretty good insight into life there.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_21:11:41", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700788": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Yeah, the \"putting the needle on a vinyl record\" has been justifiably demonstrated to be a currently in-demand skill (in fact, it could be argued that anyone who dismisses vinyl as readily now as they did 10 years ago may be a bit out of touch with the music industry).<br><br>But I understand the reasoning for including it on the list - so you could get hits for another FC video. Good on ya for your slickness.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_21:36:26", "killed": false, "user_key": "558fe51ccaf51ea0c6927750fe64c04e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700789": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@ken #47. Dewey decimal system is the norm in libraries here (Australia). I've never seen any other system.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_19:00:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "72caa11f89bbbcde631b12caebd4bb91", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700790": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "#60: \"Yes, [smoking is] committing slow suicide\".<br><br>It's much worse than that.  Thanks to secondhand smoke, it's actually a really slow suicide *bomber*.<br><br>I don't know why more isn't being done to combat this ubiquitous terrorist threat.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_20:47:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "97d540da0aee796ba07e9420099552b4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700791": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Just guessing here, but I don't think going to Europe 3 times on business and spending your time in hotels, restaurants and conference halls gives anyone any insight whatsoever on what life is like in Europe.  Me thinks one might have to actually LIVE there for an extended period of time to form an intelligent opinion beyond: \"Hey!,some restaurants have banned smoking!  They are making progress!\"", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_20:54:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "7842a5426980daab1a30692edce4889a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700792": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Scoble, I just thought of another one to add<br><br>- Sending your colleagues stuff via the yellow inter-departmental envelopes.  Maybe the MacBook Air will bring those back", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_17:42:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "905caf13c80486d3ae3d297ceee820bb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700793": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "When I left university in the late 80s, I fell axx-backwards into doing freelance radio work for the CBC (Canada's NPR).<br><br>I started out using a Sony cassette recorder to do field work, then the big move -- the Walkman PRO! Wooow. But still, what we did back then was have our tape dubbed onto 1/4\" tape, then we edited our clips with a razorblade and a yellow grease pencil, using splicing tape to hold stuff together.<br><br>I still do some work for CBC and some podcasting, but it isn't like that any more.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_16:09:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "5583a37986614ee4f8fc1dcbdffb29fd", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700794": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Scoble,<br><br>Smoking is a nasty habit. I had it for years.<br><br>Smoking, while nasty, has no bearing on intelligence whatsoever. Yes, it's stupid. Yes, it's committing slow suicide, but there are, and have been, very intelligent smokers. That aside...<br><br>The reason the EU is cracking down on smoking with a renewed vengeance because of economics. What with socialized medicine being in virtually all EU nations, no one wants to pay for the mistakes or stupidity of others. I've spoken with friends in the EU about this very topic.<br><br>It's true, however, that EU/Asian kids are far and away better educated than our own kids. There are exceptions, but like I said above, they are few and far between. Americans tend to look at education the wrong way.<br><br>For example, in the US, what with this \"no child left behind\" nonsene, a smart/gifted kid in a classroom (with exceptions), gets taught the same boring curriculum that his lesser-minded peers get taught. He stagnates and begins to dislike school. The US is largely opposed to \"gifted\" programs because they see them as unfair. I've got friends that are teachers and school administrators. Schools receive little to no money for gifted programs, but, I learned, get about $10k per every child that has learning disabilities (special ed). Schools actually encourage teachers to pick out the special ed kids and get them enrolled in special ed. More money for the schools. Well, life can be unfair. Some people are actually smarter than others, and to not allow gifted students to get ahead is a crime. In the EU, if you are gifted, you go into a gifted program and move ahead at your own pace, kind of like the Montessori schools here in the US. Another disturbing trend in the US school system is to pull kids out of class for the slightest distruption and have them labelled \"bi-polar\" or ADD. Some states actually mandate that if chosen by a school to be tested for such things, and found to be \"true\", the child cannot return to school unless medicated. This is an evil practice. It's a proven fact, but often overlooked, that \"bi-polar\" or ADD kids are really just hyper, and interestingly enough, tend to be actually more intelligent. They get bored in class and tend to act out their boredom in negative ways. Put them in a gifted class and they would likely accel since they are not bored stiff with less-than-useful baseline curriculums.<br><br>Being gifted is nice, but not all of us are. But, the average US school teaches (and I use \"teaches\" loosely), uses an outdated curriculum model that imparts only the bare modicum of skills required to pass the state assessment exams. Critical thinking is not taught in the US like it is elsewhere, but you know full well that sports gets the largest budget in the school system. It's a proven fact that less than 1% of students go on to play professional sports. And we wonder why our kids can graduate without being able to find countries on a map. They can dunk a bball or play football, but they cannot use a semicolon properly or tell you the difference between an adjective and adverb. Ever notice that the minimal acceptable grade in most schools to play sports is a C average. It should be a B- at the very least. A C average encourages mediocrity.<br><br>Talk to an Indian, Chinese, or European. They are so far ahead of us in general education it's silly. I'm ashamed to even talk with these people about American education. India is one of the poorest nations on earth, but man do they graduate some smart kids. China, too.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_14:58:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700795": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I've used 8 of those skills in my life and I'm just 22. I still use shorthand on occasion.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_17:16:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "94b6f904c48f8eae8b9ea62f1904db95", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700796": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Gee, sounds to me like a lot a huff and puff here... what you REALLY seem to be talking about is MONEY, not 'obsolete' and/or 'essence' and/or smoking and/or EU educational standards etc .... Come on now - FOCUS BOYS !<br><br>'Twill all be a bit of a non-issue when the lights go out and the 'power' goes off anyway and SUDDENLY we gotta start doing EVERYTHING again by hand ... the TRAGEDY is that so few have a CLUE. Labour is not respected in America.<br><br>My old mum still uses a rotary phone, on principle, she REFUSES to pay the jacked-up rate for 'touch'. And my pop often used a slide rule when woodworking. I personally REALLY like to cook - AND, o'dear, I like to have an after dinner cigarette and do my very own huffing and puffing ... quel horror !<br><br>Guess I'll just have to bumble along and try to make the best of it anyway .... Coming? Or, are you gonna STAY in HERE FOREVER fellas???", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_17:16:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "b6a4cfcb03e8b501da830b02502c8136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700797": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Obsolete Celebrity Tech Blogger skills<br>--------------------------------------<br>Steady Camera Skills and Focusing<br>Fact-checking<br>Reading anything more than a summary<br>Researching the topic(s)<br>Calling up people who know the issue, to get a background<br>Using a source not from Wikipedia. Original souces, how time-wasting heady.<br>Doing independent verification of claims made by conference trade-show vendors.<br>Actually having a clue about anything", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_17:04:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "7f6291e8344b594235e57b843fc05d9b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700798": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Tankko: from what my pro photographer friends tell me you're wrong. Hasselblad already has a 25 megapixel camera and it's hardly the highest resolution ones. I'm interviewing some really killer photographers soon and we'll take that issue more on then.<br><br>But for most people anyway this is definitely an obsolete skill.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_21:05:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700799": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Great idea on the wiki... I took a look at the domain name, but unfortunately someone has \"encumbered\" it by querying through network solutions.<br><br>Full rant here: <a href=\"http://obfuscation.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/the-evil-still-lurks/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://obfuscation.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/the...</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_21:00:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "3a9a1cc676acddca3de49d162c88be81", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700800": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Wreck: I'll go further. I've been to China and Europe. I agree with you that their education systems are ahead of ours in a lot of ways.<br><br>One interesting thing is that we keep importing smart people from around the world. Ask Loic Le Meur why he didn't stay in France, for instance.<br><br>Or my wife. Ask her why her parents sent her away to a foreign land from their home in Tehran.<br><br>And this trend continues to this day.<br><br>Yes, there are lots of smart smokers, but it does indicate some level of stupidness to pick up smoking in the past 20/30 years since every scientific study shows that's bad for you.<br><br>Plus it just plain stinks. It's amazingly rude to light up inside when other people who aren't smokers are around.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_15:06:48", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700801": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Scoble,<br><br>I forgot to address one thing you brought up. You said Eropeans rush as much as Americans do. Remember, you were at a conference, hung out with geeks, that while from the EU and everywhere else, tend to have the same characteristics as all geeks: always moving, thinking, rushing around, never having enough time to do this or that.<br><br>I'm talking about real, everyday people like farmers, office workers, etc. Not geeks. Europeans tend to move more slowly than we do. The Spanish have it right. Siestas should be mandatory. Go to any major city in Spain during the workweek and when siesta time comes, the city largely comes to a crawl. That's great. It's good for morale and the health. I also like the fact that the EU has a 35-hor work week (UK not included), a minimum of 6-8 weeks paid time off, socialized medicine, PATERNITY leave, even. The US should have all this.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_15:08:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700802": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Rabbit ears are back with HDTV", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-28_05:04:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "441659e0f2b7ec5c994d4d5316051c56", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700803": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Using the internet.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_14:02:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "715a161cdce9128670ffeb8ff8a79714", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700805": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I love these comments from folks who proudly proclaim \"X is not dead because I still use it!\" At least TRY to understand the pont here, dude. If you're not dead yourself you are clearly obsolete.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_14:23:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "206869c7cd40eec1f696638f3b206477", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700806": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Administrating BBS sites", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_15:52:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "64b89aef4ef20380c641d79d12a4fffa", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700807": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Threading film in a 16mm projector (precious few of us knew even then how to do it right).", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_15:55:24", "killed": false, "user_key": "cc9535f475feb013786cb942a3fc9912", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700808": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Knowing how to dial a rotary phone, or at least knowing how one works is a useful skill.  You can dial the operator with 10 fast clicks of the hook switch, which emulates dialing a 0 on a rotary.  This works even if the DTMF decoders are down because of power loss at the head end.  I used to dial out regular numbers on a \"one button dial-free phone\" that was supposedly only capable of calling one number, simply by repeating this process for each of the digits I wanted to dial.<br><br>By the way, U.S. West installed a new electromechanical switch outside of St. George Utah in 1994, and tends to amortize equipment costs of a period of 20 years, so system support for rotary phones will continue to be alive and well there until at least 2014, even if it's replaced with keypad to make/break converters on things that look like DTMF phones.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_16:19:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "16c12777d5b1b7a5c2db69282167d296", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700809": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "After reading through the comments, it strikes me that many feel that \"survival\" and \"tech\" are mutually exclusive... This isn't the case and never has been.<br><br>Many of us tech \"reliant\" are truly just tech \"fanatic.\" I sit in front of a PC for most of my waking hours for work and play. I also have to rebuild the master cylinder on my 1957 MGA 1500, weld a new bracket for the oil filled air cleaner on our 1960 Nash Metro, get on the roof to tighten the supports for the covered patio I built last spring (by myself, using rope and pulley) and head to the range to sight in my firearms... all of which I will do myself.<br><br>I will also occasionally light a smoke whilst performing many of these activities.<br><br>And vinyl is dead, I've seen the same reports for 15 years about it making a comeback... yet you still have to go looking for LPs and a large majority of new wax is DJ music.<br><br>Learn to cook, learn to hunt/fish/farm, learn to keep an automobile running, and strive to always keep learning new things, including how to sync your mobile device. And write your grandmother a letter, she'll appreciate it.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_09:19:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ed569112aeae1885bfd22dd14d8c17d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700810": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Bragging about your blood type.  (I'm the last person in my family who was blood-typed at birth.  Apparently they stopped that in the early 80's.)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_02:14:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "97d540da0aee796ba07e9420099552b4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700811": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "You can still buy Discwasher new! Vinal is not dead.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_17:13:23", "killed": false, "user_key": "176c11db25ac8d983a47bcc0622fa3cd", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700812": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Wreck, in Oz the government buys the big screen TVs for people! IT's called a baby bonus. The govt pays $5000 for each baby born. Many folks splash out and buy a big screen TV. Consequently down here, kids born in the last 5 years are  called the \"plasma generation\".<br><br>Re your blog, I think you'll do well. But it is hard to find your niche. Maybe start with something generic, just your thoughts and ramblings, and as canadada says you don't even have to make it public. Then thru that you might find what you want to write about.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-19_01:06:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "72caa11f89bbbcde631b12caebd4bb91", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700813": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Obsolete - IBM Lotus Notes &amp; Domino...at least not yet?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_13:46:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "63bf8a59b794809d2911cbb437df7082", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700814": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Developing film and printing photos is far from obsolete.  Digital cameras can not match large format film, and that is widely used for large photos.  Far from dead.  This is a very shortsighted list.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_20:43:23", "killed": false, "user_key": "741f8dd453117df5016c8537a65e5f6d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700815": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "srikanth: that's too bad. They are things I'm not looking to ever do again.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_20:12:44", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700816": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "What about just formating a floppy disk on your computer.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_20:15:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "857d9046c29c4da6837a8a491c0e07e9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700817": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Skills long dead:<br><br>- making a deer fat poultice<br>- vending spirits of turpentine as a medicament<br>- making change in shillings and pence<br>- playing whist<br><br>Skills recently dead:<br><br>- adjusting the ignition point gap in a distributor<br>- adjusting a television's horizontal and vertical holds<br>- operating an IBM 029 key punch<br>- syntax of HIMEM.SYS, EMM386.EXE<br>- making an answering 2400 baud modem think I am a calling modem by whistling at the correct frequency<br><br>Skills soon to be dead:<br><br>- talking to people on a \"telephone\"<br>- cooking food from \"scratch\"<br>- filling up a car with \"gasoline\"<br>- speaking any language other than English", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_20:16:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "67ddf598c32d0ae929852af89fa4b272", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700818": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Chris: or using paper punch cards on a computer. Or, as I used to on an Apple II, use a cassette tape to load up your computer.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_20:16:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700819": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hand crafting config.sys and autoexec.bat to get things to run in DOS, especially games.  Building floppy based boot disks for OS installs.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_20:17:04", "killed": false, "user_key": "96d87fb93fae20be679a6caaa8ef18fc", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700820": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>Editing movies with a cutter knife and glue?</i><br><br>Good one.  Don't you look forward to the day when the child in the back of the class raises their hand and asks why are the menu items called \"Cut\" and \"Paste?\"", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_20:20:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "67ddf598c32d0ae929852af89fa4b272", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700821": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "And even as tedious as some of these are...I miss pretty much all of them.  Give me the good ol days...and penicillin.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_20:20:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "820d0e4ee14e986a44d33782ca852f51", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700822": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Just registered <a href=\"http://ObsoleteSkills.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">ObsoleteSkills.com</a>. Sure a Wiki is the best idea? I'll get it set up today, bit of a laugh.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_20:33:01", "killed": false, "user_key": "bradkellett", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700823": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Putting a needle on a vinyl record is most definitely not obsolete and according to a recent WSJ article is actually on the rise.<br><br>Seattle record label <a href=\"http://www.controlgroupco.com/tcg.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Control Group</a> specializes in putting out vinyl for NEW albums by bands like The Killers and Kings of Leon. They also handle vinyl output for other labels that no longer deal in vinyl.<br><br>In several musical genres, vinyl is still widely released and highly collectable.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_02:24:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "60bea6b4af84ba052a5c5ed9cce1b978", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700824": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Using carbon paper to make copies.<br>Developing film/photos.<br>Adjusting the rabbit ears on your TV set<br><br>are not dead for me.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_20:03:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "4c634638d00b4373d5253f6cf493371b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700825": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Louis: oh, let's not go there. Even if you're an Apple fan you have plenty of obsolete skills. Anyone remember Extension Manager on OS 6?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_20:03:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700826": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "milking a cow by hand", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_02:09:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "72caa11f89bbbcde631b12caebd4bb91", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700827": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "My daughter recently asked me why I had all these \"giant CDs\" in the closet. They are old records. I finally decided it was time to throw out the record *player* at least because the needle was missing. I threw out the rotary phone, too. I kept the Stereopticon. There are certain things that will be antiques, collector's items, but I think not rotary phones from the 1990s.<br><br>You still have to know shorthand and use envelopes, stamps, and checks, however, because there are institutions and meetings where you can't take in a cell phone or laptop to the meeting and they don't have online payments yet.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_22:26:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "b1088dbd877c2d7d33e6b3b63ee38081", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700828": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "More recently dead skills:<br><br>- Long division.<br>- Looking up a word in the dictionary.<br>- Looking up a phone number in the phone book.<br>- Finding a street on a map by finding the name in the list and then using the grid coords (like C4-6).<br>- WordPerfect.<br>- Lotus 1-2-3.<br>- Addressing an envelope and putting a stamp on it.<br>- Writing a check.<br><br>More skills soon to be dead:<br><br>- Knowing the times tables.<br>- Knowing how to borrow during subtraction.<br>- using the shift key to make upper-case letters.<br>- Spelling. or shud i say \"teh speling\".<br>- Navigating the yahoo directory.<br>- Questioning authority.<br>- Voting.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_00:54:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "3085a82d299dd1c5655f6702ddfc52f3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700829": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Robert,<br><br>You're missing the point in a way.<br><br>What I'm lamenting is the fact that in many ways, the Internet and cellphones are \"replacing\" REAL face-to-face convos. People no longer leave their homes to talk with their friends as much as they used to; they do it over some device. I disagree with this. In my circle of friends, we conduct everything in meatspace. All planning is done the same way. We use the phone or email only to say we cannot make it for some reason.<br><br>It's a shame people cannot meet each other at the mall (or wherever) anymore. We use proxies like online dating. Whatever happened to networking with people in the flesh? Hanging out at the mall? Chatting up the cute blonde at the cash register? There are whole studies done that show people are less and less interested in meeting people face-to-face for first dates or initial meetings. Sad.<br><br>I, for, one, miss the late 70s/early 80s when everything was done in the real. Hell, I'd rather be in the 50s if the truth be known.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_00:05:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700830": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I guess some of those are just nostalgic rather than \"pretty much useless.\"", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_23:41:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "5e89e247cafd3151b66f160d4a29729e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700831": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Wreck: I totally disagree. Heck, this post happened because of face-to-face conv.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_23:28:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700832": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "- Making an exclamation mark on your manual typewriter by typing a period then backspacing and typing a single quote over it<br><br>- As a cashier, making change without having to punch the amount tendered into the cash register (i.e. MATH)<br><br>- Lead bodywork<br><br>- Writing a letter in cursive<br><br>- Courting<br><br>- Bagging groceries in a paper bag<br><br>- Listening<br><br>- Using your turn signal<br><br>- Merging in traffic", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_23:39:41", "killed": false, "user_key": "5e89e247cafd3151b66f160d4a29729e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700833": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@149,<br><br>Writing letters. THAT is a dying craft if there ever was one, at least in the western world.<br><br>My kid loves to get mail. I told her that if you want to get mail, you have to send mail. So, she colors/draws and what not, and we send it to \"grannie\" in the mail so she can get something in return.<br><br>The benefit of this is that you have something to keep and remember people by. Email is amorphous and ethereal, and while it can be printed out, has not the same meaning as a physical letter.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_09:49:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700834": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "er, I meant @34", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_23:26:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700835": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@33,<br><br>Amen. Face-to-face communication is dying rapidly. People now use craigslist or any other numerous services to meet rather than just meet in meatspace.<br><br>I for one hate phone conversations unless there is no other way. I don't really like email, either.<br><br>Whatever happened to hooking up the old-fashioned way? Yes, the net can \"facilitate\" these things, but if I'm going to meet a yound lady for dating/romance, I'm want to meet her while at church, shopping, at a restaurant, the library (yes, the library. they are still useful), sports games, etc.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_23:25:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700836": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The fact is many people every year get lost in the wilderness, due to their lack of knowledge in LAND NAVIGATION skills.   BUT, how does one improve on their LAND NAVIGATION skills.  There are outdoor wilderness navigators of various skill levels out there that can use these lessons, to improve their skills and introduce others (beginners and those unfamiliar) into the world of Land Navigation.<br>     The lessons are FREE to download, informative, and can be used to teach yourself and others in the knowledge of \"LAND NAVIGATION with MAP and LENSATIC COMPASS\".   WWW.LANDNAVIGATION.ORG<br>Very Respectfully,<br>Jimmy D.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_21:11:24", "killed": false, "user_key": "05b22249b5cb32a9e6b264cc85ff3777", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700837": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Technology-wise: Terminating SCSI cables and being worried about too many text boxes in a document in a page-layout program.<br><br>In general: Card catalogs at the library and paying 15 cents or more, each, for black-and-white copies.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-18_23:57:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "ad96ace475ab89952489d5a2454d97da", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700838": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Shorthand is still alive and well in the medical community.  Especially with those of us who do mental health work where we try not to take notes in front of the client.<br><br>Rewinding VHS tapes, man that sucked...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_20:03:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "3cd73ffb367cb103ec44b077c7cfdf99", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700839": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://obsoleteskills.wikispot.org\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://obsoleteskills.wikispot.org</a> is up. I'll try to get some templates going.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_22:08:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "61025b3df4700620a5d9099293f23a5d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700840": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@18,<br><br>Way off on a couple of counts.<br><br>Cooking from scratch will never die. It's actually coming back into fashion in a major way. There are more and more cooking shows as a testament to this. Only this generation eats everything out of a microwave-frendly bag. Cooking is a skill.<br><br>The US has millions and millions of Spanish-speaking people, more every year, illegal or not. Spanish is growing by leaps and bounds. In my state, it's an official language, and in some cities, almost everything is in Spanish. By 2050, whites will be a minority in the US, with hispanics the majority. Go read up on it. Americans are having fewer and fewer children. The Spanish are having more and more. English may be the language of business, but only a handful of countries speak it officially: Australia, Philippines, Canada, US, the UK/Ireland, South Africa, Liberia, India, and a couple of others. Most countries speak French, Spanish, Chinese, or Portugese as their dominant language. Most of Africa was either French or Portuguese or Dutch at one point. Interestingly enough, Portuguese is spoken by like a quarter of the world's population. There are over a dozen African countries where it's the dominant language, Brazil, Macau, Portugal itself and in a few other places. Chinese, French, and Spanish make up the rest. English is spoken by the vast minority of peoples.<br><br>Scoble,<br><br>as far as rotary phones are concerned, I always take the option on phone calls and pretend I have a rotary phone. I always get someone on within a few seconds rather than go through the push button hell and automaton voices.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_22:20:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700841": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "- Learning Morse code, although not for most folks, in the olden days everyone knew the Morse code for SOS.<br>- Knowing how to write a telegram<br>- Darning socks", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_22:54:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "72caa11f89bbbcde631b12caebd4bb91", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700842": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I've never done 8 of those things.  I'm only 25!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_22:57:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "8713787d24d94526d074f35fb39e5d39", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700843": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "A Wiki has been set up at <a href=\"http://obsoleteskills.wikispot.org\" rel=\"nofollow\">obsoleteskills.wikispot.org</a>, feel free to visit and share your knowledge and skills.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_22:54:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "61025b3df4700620a5d9099293f23a5d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700844": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Add this to the list<br><br>- having a decent conversation with people in person and w/o checking one's cell phone", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-16_22:52:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "905caf13c80486d3ae3d297ceee820bb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700845": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I wonder how many still use abacus, telex machine and DOS...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-04-17_18:59:23", "killed": false, "user_key": "f5ae89069f48ef658c865763f1b861e9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700846": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@87  Tuning a crystal set radio. Most of you do not even know what I am talking about since that was about 82 years ago. Enjoyed the comments.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-03-11_17:53:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "adfcb5704ba2dcab436f8b65c41894a5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700847": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "How about:<br><br> - Paper data tape?  I could read it visually.<br><br> - Edge punched cards.<br><br> - Impact printers, especially the drum type.<br><br> - Magnetic data cards.  Looked like 80 column cards but were magnetic.<br><br> - Magna-see, a freon fluid with iron particles suspended that would attach to magnetic tape so you could see the blocks of data to see where there was an error.<br><br> - Pinch roller reel data tape drives with vacuum columns.  Man I spent alot of time cleaning those puppies.<br><br> - Oh yeah, wire punch board programming...card sorters...card intrepreters...yikes!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_09:46:20", "killed": false, "user_key": "3aada36dc9171cc87172554cb5bfccfc", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700848": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Just a quick note to let you know I was very much inspired by this posting, just last friday I launched a Dutch wiki with obsolote skills, <a href=\"http://www.nuttelozevaardigheden.nl\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.nuttelozevaardigheden.nl</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-03-31_04:28:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "35dadb7baebb989e735416b3bf704de6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700849": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@Wreck (#32)... actually, cooking from scratch is on the decline. A recent \"Progressive Grocer\" article noted 2007 was the first year better than 50% of all dining was done \"out\".<br><br>Cooking from scratch is on the decline in the US no matter how badly all the cooking shows want it to the contrary. It's a great way for the consumer packaged goods manufacturers to get their products in front of you (since the newspaper's circulation... you know the one you no longer take... is in the tank)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_08:38:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "3b64d14e32a5dbdc4534959d69c029f3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700850": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@44,<br><br>I don't think many of the skills you listed are dying.<br><br>Any school that does not teach loads of math, including long division, is doing the kids a disservice. Kids should be well versed in math by an early age. By 8th or 9th grade, they should already be well versed in trig, calculus, advanced algebra, geometry. American schools are far behind their european and asian counterparts.<br><br>Learning how to read a paper map is essential. What happend if that precious GPS system dies for whatever reason. Knowing how to use a compass and a map should be a required skill. It's easy to learn and remember. I learned land navigation in the military and it's come in handy many times. Knowing how to shoot an azimuth and reverse azimuth has saved many a camper and hiker, even in recent times. People rely too much on technology.<br><br>American kids are among the least educated in the 1st world when it comes to math and the sciences. The scandinavians and europeans in general, along with the asians, consistently score leaps and bounds above American students in math and sciences. Math in the US is looked upon as a requirement to graduate, not as the science it is. Kids are taught only enough the graduate in most cases. There are exceptions to this, but they are few and far between.<br><br>Want proof? Go ask the average person where Guatemala is on a map, or even Israel. Ask these same people who Galileo or Kepler were, let alone Archimedes. Ask geeks where \"moveable type\" comes from and they'll probably tell you about the blogging company rather than the Chinese and German history behind it. Sad. So much for moving the US forward. Kids are less concerned with learning and more caught up with IM, blogging, and the net in general. While these can be useful and fun, a well-rounded education includes math, science, astronomy, home economics, athletics, art, literature, writing, reading, debate, law, experiments (theory and proofs). I see very little real education in American schools. Language aside, you take an American in, say, 10th grade, and language barriers aside, and drop him in, say, Finland, they would be hopelessly behind. What we are learning in the 10th or 11th grade, they learned in what we call 7th grade. Sad for us.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-17_11:46:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "a61980db730441d450103ef8aef749f5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700851": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "For some of poorer folks who couldn't afford a mimeograph machine, there was the hektograph.  You bought a can of this liquid you poured into a large, flat dish and it gelled.  Then you used an indelible pencil or a spirit master on a typewriter and made an original.  This was \"blotted\" onto the surface of the gel and subquent sheets of blank paper were pressed onto this transferred image in the gel to create your copies.  Slow, crude and CHEAP!  I remember using this thing every year when as a kid, Dad sent out reminder cards to members of the community to send in their dues for the volunteer fire department.  You could by the gel liquid at office supply stores.<br><br>Dean", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-03-30_16:49:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "f72f8e53201bcc27c322a04f3a8bea8e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700852": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I have a rotary phone in my living room...I rarely use it, the cordless gets all the attention.  It still works just great!  I hated it as a teenager we were the only people I knew who owned one.  We keep it around as a conversation piece, and my kids think it's funny.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-03-24_11:00:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "d1ab2440e9ee826605b7e8da7864ae34", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700853": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "1.  manually clicking over to pick up someone on the other line of the phone.<br>2.  paying attention to how hard you hit your brakes.<br>3.  pinball.  real pinball.<br>4.  presets on an old car radio", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-24_16:13:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "068dff61bfd85c8e7c9f4ccf6b66d5dc", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700854": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I enjoyed reading this.  Check out this site...<br><a href=\"http://www.carlsonestopmall.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">www.carlsonestopmall.com</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-27_12:24:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "ffab60cdb8bc74a9f40259b4ef39793e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700855": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I was thinking about how the middle of generation X (born in the late 60s and early 70s) is a transitional cohort with regard to digital technology. Although we were children in a mostly analog world, and learned many of the obsolete skills in this list, we were exposed to microcomputers as children, too. We're natives of both the digital and pre-digital worlds.<br><br>How do you know you're part of this lucky group? Identifying obsolete skills include playing Space Invaders on an Atari 2600, and programming BASIC on a Commodore whose programs load from cassette.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-04-10_02:08:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "b59acb0da1ead8d42c53fb684d1f03b2", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700856": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I completely disagree with the needle on the record player one.  There is no better quality method of sound reproduction out there yet.  Digital may be more portable but the quality just isn't quite there.  I have a turntable, use it often, have hundreds of records, and am only 26 years old.  Some artists still produce vinyl for those with ears that know the difference.<br><br>Vinyl forever!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-04-10_18:45:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "20000f0dca38259fc8c4589e75de41de", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700857": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "PRESIDENTIAL SKILLS.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-21_08:50:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "5dc6884ef845e342e81ed1bb47be1fc0", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700858": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "RS232 is alive and well :) high end Unix systems/routers/switches still use this technology and probably will for many more years. Certainly not obsolete. Although I had one sysadmin trying to figure out how to plug his serial cable into his video port on his laptop. Kept asking me where to find a serial male connector :P", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_09:50:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "612b6dc63a97059af00a9b66510660fc", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700859": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Circular slide rules are still used all the time. In aviation, my E6B flight computer is a circular slide rule and every student (at least in 1994) was required to buy and use one.<br><br>They don't use batteries so you don't have to worry about losing power to them during flight. They calculate fuel consumption, crosswind correction and much more. Very useful. Most people don't know they're actually slide rules.<br><br>I also have a rotary phone in the basement. :) Admittedly obsolete (I've heard grumblings that pulse dialing is going away) but fun to use now and again -- I just like that purring sound.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_09:50:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "4b236413ecf7c2e7821af4c09bb1bdf8", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700860": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Obsolete Skill - getting out of lazy boy to change tv channel with rotory switch and then fine tune it to the station", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_09:54:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "612b6dc63a97059af00a9b66510660fc", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700861": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Using carbon paper to make copies - it is used a lot in Asia. You'd be surprised.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-21_13:06:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "f8368e3a3032dab360a38e22ea09a6dc", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700862": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I think this list should be renamed \"Obsolete skills for the Computer Geek\".<br><br>So basically a bunch of computer geeks who have no social skills and who just sit in front of computers all day come up with a list of obsolete tasks that they would not (or know how to) do. Many of these tasks are performed on a regular basis by many people around the world. Remember there are still many more people who don't own, use or have even seen a computer in real life than there are people who do. So just because you don't do these things does not mean others don't.<br><br>Maybe you all should climb down from your ivory towers, get out in the sun, go meet and talk to people and figure out what is really going on in the world. You might like it.<br><br>Thanks!!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_10:19:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "aff555556d5d6da5422c0d565a44b3de", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9700863": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I can go the other way - skills so ubiquitous that what was once something to brag about is now common place.<br><br>Specificly, I'm thinking of typing and shorthand. Used to be that they were taught in schools, and clssified ads would specify words per minute applicants could type.<br><br>A decade and a half later, it's taken for granted that most anyone can type fairly well. And informal shorthand is just as complex, if not more efficient, than formal versions.<br><br>-Frank Blissett", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-02-20_10:26:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "b181d41e877012f7de19b54a80b1be0e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}}, "integration": {"receiver_url": "", "theme": 4, "reply_position": true, "disqus_logo": false}, "timer": {"timer_url": "http://localhost:8005", "thread_id": "18348591", "user_id": "anonymous", "forum_id": "125200", "hash": -3370825132081383912}, "thread": {"total_posts": 0, "paginate": false, "per_page": 0, "slug": "obsolete_skills", "num_pages": 1, "days_alive": 0, "realtime_paused": true, "id": 18348591, "num_posts": 213, "closed": true, "queued": false, "killed": false}, "reactions_limit": 10, "context": {"show_reply": false, "use_fb_connect": true, "forum_facebook_key": "faaf467d0f47abde553c3b8e0e1b3570", "use_yahoo": false, "subscribed": false, "use_twitter_signin": true, "use_openid": false, "realtime_speed": 5000}, "reactions_start": 0, "settings": {"debug": false, "disqus_url": "http://disqus.com", "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"}, "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"};
	/* */ this.jsonData.cookie_messages = {"user_created": null, "post_has_profile": null, "post_twitter": null, "post_not_approved": null}; this.jsonData.session = {"url": null, "name": null, "email": null}; /* */

	
	this.curPageId = 'dsq-comments';

	this.frames = {};
};

var disqus_popup_reference = null;

if(typeof DsqLocal == 'undefined') {
	DsqLocal = {};
}



/**
 * Dsq.Strings: UI strings
 */
Dsq.Strings = new function() {
	this.ADD_NEW_COMMENT = "Add New Comment";
	this.LOG_INTO_DISQUS = "Log into DISQUS";
	this.USE_MEDIA = "Use Media";
	this.LOGOUT = "Logout";
	this.SHARING_OPTIONS = "Sharing options";
	this.SHARE_ON = "Share on";
	this.TWEET_THIS_COMMENT = "Tweet this comment";
	this.SHARE_ON_NEWSFEED = "Share on news feed";
	this.SEND_UPDATE_TO_YAHOO = "Send update to Yahoo!";
	this.REBLOG_ON = "Reblog on";
	this.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS = "Configure options";
	this.POST_AS = "Post as";
	this.SORT_BY = "Sort by";
	this.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL = "Subscribe by email";
	this.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS = "Subscribe by RSS";
	this.POPULAR_NOW = "Popular now";
	this.BEST_RATING = "Best Rating";
	this.NEWEST_FIRST = "Newest first";
	this.OLDEST_FIRST = "Oldest first";
	this.HIGHLIGHTED = "Highlighted";
	this.UNSUBSCRIBE = "Unsubscribe";
	this.REQUIRED = "Required";
	this.OPTIONAL = "Optional";
	this.YOU_ARE_COMMENTING_AS_A = "You are commenting as a";
	this.LOGIN_BELOW = "Login below";
	this.PLEASE_LOGIN_BELOW_TO_COMMENT = "Please login below to comment.";
	this.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL = "Subscribe to all comments by email";
	this.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS = "Do not subscribe to comments";
	this.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS = "Real-time updating is";
	this.ENABLED = "enabled";
	this.PAUSED = "paused";
	this.PAUSE = "Pause";
	this.RESUME = "Resume";
	this.SHOW = "Show";
	this.JUST_NOW = "Just now";
	this.REPLY = "Reply";
	this.EDIT = "Edit";
	this.FLAG = "Flag";
	this.MODERATE = "Moderate";
	this.CANCEL = "Cancel";
	this.REPLYING_TO = "Replying to";
	this.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS = "Report missing reactions";
	this.POST_A_COMMENT = "Post a comment";
	this.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT = "Flag inappropriate comment";
	this.FLAGGED = "Flagged";
	this.NO = "No";
	this.YES = "Yes";
	this.NEVER_MIND = "Never mind";
	this.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR = "Are you sure you would like to report this comment to a moderator";
	this.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION = "This will flag comments for moderators to take action";
	this.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN = "To rate, please log in";
	this.JUST_A_MOMENT = "Just a moment...";
	this.GUEST = "Guest";
	this.NAME = "Name";
	this.EMAIL = "Email";
  this.WEBSITE = "Website";
  this.SETTINGS = "Settings";
  this.MODERATOR_OPTIONS = "Moderator options: ";
  this.MODERATE_OPTIONS = "Moderate Options";

  // Thread moderator actions
  this.CLOSE_THREAD = "Close thread";
  this.OPEN_THREAD = "Open thread";
  this.REMOVE_THREAD = "Remove thread";
  this.RESTORE_THREAD = "Restore thread";
  this.ACTIONS = "Actions";
};
// Dsq.Strings

/**
 * Dsq.FmtStrings: functions that return interpolated UI strings
 */
Dsq.FmtStrings = new function() {
	// Seems we have to use named interpolation for Django to translate. Investigate more.
	this.LOGGED_IN_AS = function(username) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logged in as %(username)s', {username:username});
	};

	this.LOGOUT_FROM = function(disqus) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logout from %(disqus)s', {disqus:disqus});
	};

	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL = function(total, num) {
		if (num === 1) {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> of <span id='dsq-total-posts'>%(total)s</span> comment", {num:num, total:total});
		} else {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> of <span id='dsq-total-posts'>%(total)s</span> comments", {num:num, total:total});
		}
	};

	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION = function(num) {
		if (num === 1) {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comment", {num:num});
		} else {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comments", {num:num});
		}
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s comment'
				: '%(num)s comments'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_LIKES = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s like'
				: '%(num)s likes'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_POINTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s point'
				: '%(num)s points'
			), {num:num});
	};
};
// Dsq.FmtStrings





Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN = 'a2d140c59df8cd4ce27a20e0829cacd8';
Dsq.COMMENTS_RE = /(<li.*?id="?dsq-comment-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/li>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_RE = /(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-header-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/div>)\s*(<div.*?class="?dsq-comment-body"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_BODY_RE = /\s*(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-message-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
// HACK: Safari ends with "-->" while other browsers end with "--&gt;" as expected.
Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE = /&lt;!--\[(.*?)\]--(?:>|&gt;)/gim;



var FragmentPacket = function(reader, writer, writer_url, is_child, receiveCallback) {
	var that = this;
	this.reader = reader;
	this.writer = writer;
	this.writer_url = writer_url;

	this.is_child = is_child || false;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;

	this._lastHash = null;

	this._accumMsg = '';

	this._lastSeqno = 0;

	this.MAX_DATA_LEN	= 1024;

	this.WAIT_TIME		= 10;

	this.READY		= 0x1;
	this.WRITING	= 0x2;
	this.FIN		= 0x4;
	this.ACK		= 0x8;

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;
	var listener = function() {
		that.recv();
	};
	return window.setInterval(listener, 10);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.log = function(msg) {



};

FragmentPacket.prototype.recv = function() {
	var hash;
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {

		hash = this.reader.name;
	} else {

		var hashIndex = this.reader.location.href.indexOf('#');
		if (hashIndex == -1) {
			return;
		}
		hash = this.reader.location.href.substring(hashIndex+1);
	}
	var flags = parseInt(hash.substring(0, 4), 10);
	var seqno = parseInt(hash.substring(4, 24), 10);
	var data  = hash.substring(24);

	if (this._lastHash !== hash) {
		this._lastHash = hash;
		this.log('recv: ' + hash);

		this.log(' flags: ' + flags);
		this.log(' seqno: ' + seqno + ' len: ' + hash.substring(4, 24).length + ' (' + hash.substring(4, 24) + ')');
		this.log(' data: ' + data + ' len: ' + data.length);

		this._lastSeqno = seqno;

		if (flags & this.WRITING) {
			this._accumMsg += data;
			this.sendFlag(this.ACK, seqno);
			if (flags & this.FIN) {
				this.log('recv finished: ' + decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));
				this.receiveCallback(decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));

				this._accumMsg = '';

				this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
			}
		}
	}

	return {
		flags: flags,
		seqno: seqno,
		data: data
	};
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendRawPacket = function(packet) {
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {
		this.writer.name = packet;
	} else {

		this.writer.location.href = this.writer_url + '#' + packet;
	}

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendFlag = function(flag, seqno) {
	this.sendRawPacket(this._zerofill(flag, 4) + this._zerofill(seqno, 20));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {
	this._send(0, encodeURIComponent(msg));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._send = function(packetNum, msg) {
	var that = this;
	var recvBuf = this.recv();

	if (packetNum === 0) {

		if (!(recvBuf.flags & this.READY)) {
			this.log('client is not ready, waiting...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		}
	} else {

		if (!( (recvBuf.flags & this.ACK) && (recvBuf.seqno === this._lastSeqno) )) {
			this.log('waiting for ack from client...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		} else {
			this.log('received ack: ' + this._lastSeqno + ' ' + recvBuf.seqno);
		}
	}

	var flags = this.WRITING;
	var num_packets = Math.ceil(msg.length / this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	this.log('num_packets: ' + num_packets);

	if (num_packets === packetNum) {

		this.log('message successfully sent!');
		this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
		return true;
	}

	this._lastSeqno++;

	if (packetNum == num_packets-1) {
		flags |= this.FIN;
	}

	var data = msg.substring(packetNum * this.MAX_DATA_LEN, (packetNum+1) * this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	var packet = this._zerofill(flags, 4) + this._zerofill(this._lastSeqno, 20) + data;

	this.log('sending raw packet: ' + packet);
	this.sendRawPacket(packet);

	return this._send(packetNum + 1, msg);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._zerofill = function(num, width) {
	var retval = num.toString();
	var retval_len = retval.length;
	for (var i = 0; i < width - retval_len; i++) {
		retval = '0' + retval;
	}
	return retval;
};

var PostMessagePacket = function(receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId) {
	var that = this;
	this.receiver = receiver;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;
	this.id = id;


	this.receiverId = receiverId;
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;

	var listener = function(e) {

		if (!that.id) {
			that.id = e.data;
			return;
		}


		var id = e.data.split(';')[0];
		if (id !== that.id) {
			return;
		}
		var data = e.data.substring(e.data.indexOf(';') + 1);

		that.receiveCallback(data);
	};

	if (typeof window.attachEvent == 'function') {
		window.attachEvent('onmessage', listener);
	} else if (typeof window.addEventListener == 'function') {
		window.addEventListener('message', listener, false);
	} else {
		throw new Error('No method found to create event listener for PostMessagePacket.');
	}
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {



	var needs_reget = false;
	try {
		if (typeof this.receiver.id == 'undefined' || typeof this.receiver.postMessage == 'undefined') {
			needs_reget = true;
		}
	} catch(e) {


	}
	if (needs_reget && typeof this.receiverId != 'undefined') {
		this.receiver = document.getElementById(this.receiverId).contentWindow;
	}

	var packet;
	if (!msg) {

		packet = this.id;
	} else {
		packet = this.id + ';' + msg;
	}
	this.receiver.postMessage(packet, '*');
};

PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = null;
PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id = function() {
	var id = (new Date()).getTime();
	if (id == PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id) {
		id++;
	}
	PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = id;
	return id.toString();
};

var JsonRpc = function() {

	this.ids = {};

	this.objectToJSON = function(obj) {
		var json = '';
		var results = [];

		if (obj === undefined || obj === null) {
			return 'null';
		}

		switch (obj.constructor) {
			case Object:
				for (var property in obj) {
					if (obj.hasOwnProperty(property)) {
						results.push(this.objectToJSON(property) + ': ' + this.objectToJSON(obj[property]));
					}
				}
				json = '{' + results.join(', ') + '}';
				break;
			case Array:
				for (var i = 0; i < obj.length; i++) {
					results.push(this.objectToJSON(obj[i]));
				}
				json = '[' + results.join(', ') + ']';
				break;
			case Number:
			case Boolean:
				json = obj.toString();
				break;
			case String:

				var specialChars = {'\b': '\\b', '\t': '\\t', '\n': '\\n', '\f': '\\f', '\r': '\\r', '\\': '\\\\'};

				json = obj.replace(/[\x00-\x1f\\]/g, function(match) {
					var ch = specialChars[match];
					return ch ? ch : '\\u00' + match.charCodeAt().toPaddedString(2, 16);
				});

				json = '"' + json.replace(/"/g, '\\"') + '"';
				break;
			default:

				json = 'null';
				break;
		}

		return json;
	};

	this.createHandler = function(send_func, registered_funcs) {
		var that = this;
		var handler = function(message) {

			try {
				var rpc = eval('(' + message + ')');
			} catch(e) {
				alert('bad JSON: ' + message);
				return;
			}
			if (rpc.method) {

				if (!registered_funcs[rpc.method]) {
					return;
				}

				var retval = registered_funcs[rpc.method].apply(null, rpc.params);
				if (rpc.id) {
					var response = {
						result: retval,
						error: null,	// TODO
						id: rpc.id
					};
					send_func(that.objectToJSON(response));
				}
			} else if(rpc.result) {

				if (!that.ids[rpc.id]) {
					return;
				}

				that.ids[rpc.id](rpc.result);
				delete that.ids[rpc.id];
			}
		};
		return handler;
	};

	this.execute = function(send_func, method, params, response_callback) {
		response_callback = response_callback || null;
		var id = (response_callback) ? (new Date()).getTime() : null;

		var request = {
			method: method,
			params: params,
			id: id
		};

		send_func(this.objectToJSON(request));

		if (id) {
			this.ids[id] = response_callback;
		}
	};
};
JsonRpc = new JsonRpc();

var ParentMessenger = function(childUrl, receiverUrl, container, receiveCallback) {


	if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Safari') >= 0 && parseInt(navigator.userAgent.substring(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Version/') + 8), 10) == 3) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	} else if (window.opera) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}



	if (!receiverUrl &&
		navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Gecko') >= 0 &&
		parseFloat(navigator.userAgent.slice(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 3, navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 6)) < 1.9) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}


	if (/msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent)) {


		if (document.domain == window.location.hostname) {
			receiverUrl = '';
		}
	}

	var that = this;
	this.childUrl = childUrl;
	this.receiverUrl = receiverUrl;
	this.container = container || document.body;

	this.packetHandler = null;


	this._ready = false;
	this._error = false;


	var _createReceiverForFragmentPacket = function() {

		that.receiver = document.createElement('iframe');
		that.receiver.src = receiverUrl;
		that.receiver.id = 'receiver_' + (new Date()).getTime();
		that.receiver.name = that.receiver.id;

		that.receiver.frameBorder = '0';
		that.receiver.frameSpacing = '0';
		that.receiver.style.borderStyle = 'none';

		var receiver_onload = function() {
			var receiver = document.getElementById(that.receiver.id).contentWindow;

			try {
				receiver.document.body.innerHTML = '';
			} catch(e) {

				that._error = true;
			}
			receiver.document.body.style.padding = '0px';
			receiver.document.body.style.margin = '0px';

			var child = receiver.document.createElement('iframe');
			child.id = 'child';
			child.name = 'child';
			child.src = that.childUrl;

			child.frameBorder = '0';
			child.frameSpacing = '0';
			child.style.borderStyle = 'none';
			child.style.width = '100%';
			child.style.height = '100%';
			receiver.document.body.appendChild(child);

			that.child = receiver.document.getElementById('child').contentWindow;
			that.receiver = receiver;

			that.packetHandler = new FragmentPacket(that.receiver, that.child, that.childUrl, false, receiveCallback);

			that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();

			that.packetHandler.sendFlag(that.packetHandler.READY, 0);

			that._ready = true;
		};

		that.receiver.onreadystatechange = function() {
			if (this.readyState == 'complete') {
				receiver_onload();
			}
		};

		that.receiver.onload = receiver_onload;







		if (Dsq.Utils.ie) {
			if (that.container.clientWidth === 0) {

				var _waitForWidth = function() {
					if (that.container.clientWidth > 0) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					} else {
						window.setTimeout(_waitForWidth, 100);
					}
				};
				_waitForWidth();

				that._once = false;
				that.receiver.onresize = function() {
					if (!that._once) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					}
					that._once = true;
				};
			}
		}

		that.container.appendChild(that.receiver);
	};


	var _createReceiverForPostMessage = function() {

		var receiver_onload = function() {

			that.packetHandler.send();
			that._ready = true;
		};

		var id = PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id();
		var receiverId = 'child_' + id;


		ParentMessenger['_receiver_onload_' + receiverId] = receiver_onload;

		that.container.innerHTML += '<iframe ' +
			'src="' + childUrl + '" ' +
			'id="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'name="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'onload="ParentMessenger._receiver_onload_' + receiverId +'();" ' +
			'></iframe>';

		that.receiver = document.getElementById(receiverId).contentWindow;
		that.packetHandler = new PostMessagePacket(that.receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId);
		that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();
	};

	if (typeof window.postMessage == 'function') {
		_createReceiverForPostMessage();
	} else {
		_createReceiverForFragmentPacket();
	}

};

ParentMessenger.prototype.sendMessage = function(message) {
	var that = this;
	if (!this._ready) {

		window.setTimeout(function() { that.sendMessage(message); }, 10);
		return;
	}
	this.packetHandler.send(message);
	return true;
};

Dsq.NewFrames = function(url) {
	this.url = url;
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype.init = function(onFailure) {
	var that = this;

	try {
		this.messenger = new ParentMessenger(this.url, Dsq.jsonData.integration.receiver_url, this.container, this.receive_callback);
	} catch(e) {
		if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
			onFailure();
		}
	}

	if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
		var iId = window.setInterval(function() {
			if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				return;
			}
			if (that.messenger._ready) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
			} else if (that.messenger._error) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				onFailure();
			}
		}, 10);
	}
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype._execute = function(method, args, callback) {
	var that = this;
	if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
		return false;
	}
	JsonRpc.execute(
		function(msg) { that.messenger.sendMessage(msg); },
		method,
		args || [],
		callback);
	return true;
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame = function(container, parent_post_id) {
	var that = this;
	this.container = container;
	this.parent_post_id = parent_post_id;

	var sendFunc = function(msg) {

		Dsq.Debug.log('Dsq.ReplyFrame.sendFunc');
		that.messenger.sendMessage(msg);
	};


	var postComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		Dsq.jsonData.posts[response.message.id] = response.message.post_meta;
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key]) {
			Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key] = response.message.user_meta;
		}


		var reply_position = (typeof(disqus_insert_wrt_sort) == 'undefined' 
			? (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reply_position ? -1 : null) 
			: (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? null : -1));
		
		if (response.message.post_meta.approved) {
			Dsq.Post.insert(response.message.post_meta.parent_post_id || reply_position, response.message.id, response.message.post_meta.message);
		}

		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onSuccess(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var postComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(response.message, 'Error');
		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onFailure(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var editComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);
		
		message.innerHTML = response.message;
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
	
	var editComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('Sorry, there was an error editing this comment.', 'Edit Error');
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	var getUserByEmail_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var msg = response.message;
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(parent_post_id);

		if (msg.username) {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'login', {
				'username': msg.username,
				'display_name': msg.display_name,
				'avatar_url': msg.avatar_url,
				'verified': msg.verified,
				'email': fields.email.value
			});
		} else {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'register');
		}
	};

	var validateAuth_onSuccess = function(response, auth_choice) {
		Dsq.Templates.postComment(parent_post_id, null, true, auth_choice);
	};

	var validateAuth_onFailure = function(response, auth_choice) {
		var pid = parent_post_id ? '-' + parent_post_id : '';
		var msg = response.message;

		if (auth_choice == 'register') {
			var fields = ['email', 'username', 'password'];

			for (var i = 0; i < fields.length; i++) {
				var field = fields[i];
				var errorDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-' + field + '-errors' + pid);

				if (msg[field]) {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = msg[field];
				} else {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = '';
				}
			}
		} else if (auth_choice == 'login') {
			Dsq.$('dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid).innerHTML = '<p>We couldn\'t log you in. Please verify your login.</p>';
		}
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.receive_callback = JsonRpc.createHandler(sendFunc, {
		'postComment.onSuccess': postComment_onSuccess,
		'postComment.onFailure': postComment_onFailure,
		'editComment.onSuccess': editComment_onSuccess,
		'editComment.onFailure': editComment_onFailure,		
		'getUserByEmail.onSuccess': getUserByEmail_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onSuccess': validateAuth_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onFailure': validateAuth_onFailure,
		'reload': function() { window.location.reload(); }
	});

	this.url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY +
		'?' + (new Date()).getTime() +
		'&f=scobleizer' +
		'&t=obsolete_skills' +
		'&ff=' + Dsq.Thread.ff +
		'&default_text=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_default_text) +
		'&ifrs=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css);
	if (this.parent_post_id) {
		this.url += '&parent_post=' + this.parent_post_id;
	}
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype = new Dsq.NewFrames(Dsq.ReplyFrame.url);

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.post = function(author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe) {
	this._execute('postComment', [author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.edit = function(post_id, message) {
	this._execute('editComment', [post_id, message]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.setState = function(parent_post_id, depth) {
	this._execute('setState', [parent_post_id, depth]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.getUserByEmail = function(email) {
	this._execute('getUserByEmail', [email]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.validateAuth = function(auth_choice, email, username, password) {
	this._execute('validateAuth', [auth_choice, email, username, password]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.authenticateFacebook = function(session, forum_url) {
	this._execute('authenticateFacebook', [session, forum_url]);
};

	Dsq.Facebook = function() {
	var that = this;

	var handleSessionData = function(session) {

		var forum_url = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;




		if (typeof disqus_facebook_forum != 'undefined') {
			forum_url = disqus_facebook_forum;
		}
		Dsq.frames.reply_0.authenticateFacebook(session, forum_url);
	};

	var onLogin = function() {
		FB.Connect.getSignedPublicSessionData(handleSessionData);
	};

	this.login = function() {
		FB.Connect.requireSession(onLogin, true);
	};
};
Dsq.Facebook = new Dsq.Facebook();


	






Dsq.Themes = {};

Dsq.Themes.narcissus = new function() {
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-form-area';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-textarea-wrapper';



	
	this.header = function() {
		var comments_count, total_posts, num_posts;
		var html = '';
		var missing_perm_tmpl;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.missing_perm) {
			missing_perm_tmpl = Dsq.Templates.missingPermissions();
			if (missing_perm_tmpl) {
				html += '<div class="dsq-missing-permissions">' + missing_perm_tmpl + '</div>';
			}
		}

		total_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.total_posts;
		num_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_posts;

		if (total_posts) {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL(total_posts, num_posts);
		} else {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION(num_posts);
		}

		html += ' \
		<div id="dsq-comments-title"> \
			<h3>' + comments_count + '</h3> \
		</div> \
		';

		html += ' \
		<div class="dsq-options"> \
			<span class="dsq-item-sort">'
				+ Dsq.Strings.SORT_BY + ' \
				<select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);"> \
					<option value="hot" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 4 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.POPULAR_NOW + '</option> \
					<option value="best" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 3 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.BEST_RATING + '</option> \
					<option value="newest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.NEWEST_FIRST + '</option> \
					<option value="oldest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 1 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.OLDEST_FIRST + '</option> \
				</select> \
				&nbsp; \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<span id="dsq-subscribe">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.subscribed
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.UNSUBSCRIBE + '</a>'
						: '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL + '</a>')
				+ '</span> \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-rss" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png" alt="" /> \
				<a href="http://scobleizer.disqus.com/obsolete_skills/latest.rss">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS + '</a> \
			</span> \
		</div> \
		';

		
		

		return html;

	};
	
	this.footer = function() {
		var html = '';

		html += Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
		
			html += Dsq.Templates.realtime();
			html += Dsq.Templates.showThreadSettings();
			html += Dsq.Templates.postBox();

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		


		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) {
 			html += ' \
				<div class="dsq-global-moderator-extras">'
					+ '<strong>shortname:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url
					+ '<strong>thread id:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.id
					+ '<strong>thread slug:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.slug
				+ '</div> \
			';
		}

		return html;
	};
	
	this.realtime = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			html += '<div id="dsq-realtime-options" class="dsq-options">'
					 + Dsq.Strings.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS + ' <strong id="dsq-realtime-status" style="text-transform: lowercase">' + Dsq.Strings.ENABLED + '</strong>. \
					 <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-toggle" style="text-transform: capitalize"></a> \
					</div>';
		}

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
			html += ' \
				<div style="display: none" id="dsq-realtime-alert" class="dsq-realtime-alert"><span id="dsq-realtime-queued"></span> <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-show"></a></div> \
			';
		}
		
		return html;
	};

	this.showThreadSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '<div id="dsq-thread-settings" class="dsq-thread-settings">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATOR_OPTIONS;
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showSettings(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.SETTINGS + '</a>';
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showModeratorActions(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>';
		if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled && Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.reportMissingReactions(); return false;">'
						+ Dsq.Strings.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS
						+ '</a>';
		}
		html +='</div>';

		return html;
	};

	this.postBox = function(post_id, use_fallback_iframe) {


		var html;
		var display_sharing_options = Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated;

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post) {
			return '';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.hasOwnProperty(Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain)) {
				display_sharing_options = false;
			}
		}
		
		if (post_id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];				
		}
		
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		var _requestUserInfo = function() {
			var html;



			var user_has_email = false;

			html = '<div class="dsq-request-user-info"> <!-- // If authenticated --> \
				<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT + '?ctkn=' + Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN + '" class="dsq-request-user-logout">' + Dsq.Strings.LOGOUT + '</a> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td rowspan="2">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '')
								+ '<img src="' + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR + '" width="48" height="48" class="dsq-request-user-avatar">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-name">'
								+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
									 ? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '">' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '</span>'
									 : (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_verified
											? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span>'
											: '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span>'))
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '') 
								+ Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username 
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
							+  (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && user_has_email ? ' <small>(<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.remoteAccountSettings(); return false;">change settings</a>)</small>' : '')
							+  (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <small>(<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/info/" target="_blank">change name</a> or <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/avatar/" target="_blank">picture</a>)</small>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-stats"> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count == 1 ? 'comment' : 'comments') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count == 1 ? 'like' : 'likes') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.points + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.points == 1 ? 'point' : 'points') + '</span> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		var _loginOptions = function() {
			var html;
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-authenticate"> \
				<p class="dsq-autheneticate-copy">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
					? Dsq.Strings.YOU_ARE_COMMENTING_AS_A + ' <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. ' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.LOGIN_BELOW + '.'
					: Dsq.Strings.REQUIRED + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.PLEASE_LOGIN_BELOW_TO_COMMENT + '.')
				+ '</p> \
				<ul class="dsq-login-buttons">'
					+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-disqus.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Facebook.login(); return false;"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-facebook.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-twitter.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL(); return false" ><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-openid.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_yahoo ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Yahoo.startYahooConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-yahoo.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
				+ '</ul> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {



				return '<div id="dsq-form-area" style="display:none"><div id="dsq-textarea-wrapper"></div></div>' + _loginOptions();
			} else {
				return '';
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<div id="' + (post_id 
			? 'dsq-reply-post-' + post_id
			: 'dsq-new-post')
		 	+ '" class="dsq-post-area"> \
			<div class="dsq-dc-logo"> \
				<a href="http://disqus.com/comments" target="_blank"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/disqus-logo.png"></a> \
			</div>'
			+ (post_id 
				? '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.REPLYING_TO + ' ' + userData.display_name + '</h3>'
				: '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT + '</h3>')
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated 
				? _requestUserInfo()
				: _loginOptions() )
			+ '<div id="dsq-form-area' + pid + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-textarea"> \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper" id="dsq-textarea-wrapper' + pid + '"></div> \
			</div>'
			+ (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated
			? ' \
			<div class="dsq-post-fields"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-name' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_name ? disqus_def_name : (Dsq.jsonData.session.name ? Dsq.jsonData.session.name : Dsq.Strings.NAME + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-website' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (Dsq.jsonData.session.url ? Dsq.jsonData.session.url : Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')" class="dsq-placeholder') + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" /></div></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-email' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_email ? disqus_def_email : (Dsq.jsonData.session.email ? Dsq.jsonData.session.email : Dsq.Strings.EMAIL + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"> \
							<div class="dsq-subscribe"> \
								<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.chooseSubscribe(' + post_id + '); return false" class="dsq-subscribe-menu"><span id="dsq-subscribe-select' + pid + '">' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post ? Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL : Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS) + '</span> <small>&#9660;</small></a> \
								<ul class="dsq-panel" id="dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid + '"> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(2, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL + '</a></li> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(0, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS + '</a></li> \
								</ul> \
								<input id="dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid + '" type="hidden" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post + '" /> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div>'
			: '')
			+ '<div class="dsq-post-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-sharing-options" ' + (!display_sharing_options ? 'style="display:none;"' : '') + '> \
					<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onfocus="document.getElementById(\'dsq-post-button' + pid + '\').focus();"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.SHARING_OPTIONS + ' <small>&#9660;</small></span></button> \
					<div class="dsq-panel"> '
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '"'
								  + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Twitter</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook
								&& (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.enabled === true ||
										(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'facebook'))
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Facebook</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Yahoo!</label> \
								</div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Tumblr</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Wordpress</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Movable Type</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
								  <label for="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' TypePad</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ '<div><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections/" target="_blank" class="dsq-configure-options">' + Dsq.Strings.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS + '</a></div>'
					+ '</div> \
				</div>'
				+ '<button type="button" class="dsq-button" id="dsq-post-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, false)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.POST_AS + ' '
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					? Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					: Dsq.Strings.GUEST)
				+ '</span></button>'
				+ (post_id
					? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button" id="dsq-cancel-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.CANCEL + '</span></button>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
			+ '</div>' // end dsq-form-area
		+ '</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};




	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-append-post-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		html = ' \
		<table> \
			<tr> \
				<td id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-avatar" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
					<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
					? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
					: '')
				+ '</a> \
				</td> \
				<td class="dsq-comment-header-meta"> \
		';

		
		return html;
	};
	
	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var html;
		var parent_display_name = '';
		
		if(_meta.parent_post_id) {

			var _parent_meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[_meta.parent_post_id];

			if (_parent_meta) {
				var parentUserData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_parent_meta.user_key];
				parent_display_name = parentUserData.display_name;
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png" class="dsq-moderator-star" title="Moderator" /> \
		<span class="dsq-comment-header-time"><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')" title="Permalink">' + (_meta.is_realtime ? Dsq.Strings.JUST_NOW : _meta.date) + '</a></span> '
		+ (_meta.parent_post_id && parent_display_name
			? '<a href="#comment-' + _meta.parent_post_id + '" title="Jump to comment">in reply to ' + parent_display_name + '</a>'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		<td id="dsq-like-pts-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-comment-header-likes">'
		+ (_meta.points
			? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		</tr> \
		</table> \
		';
		return html;
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		var html = '';
		return html;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed || !_meta.approved) { return ''; }
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
					? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.moderateOptions(' + post_id+ '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>'
					: '')
				+ '<a href="#" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG + '</a> \
			</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right">'
				+ (_meta.votable 
					? '<span id="dsq-like-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-like">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1)" >Like</button>'
						: 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;')
					+ '</span>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-post-edit" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + ')" >' + Dsq.Strings.EDIT + '</button>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<span class="dsq-comment-footer-reply" id="dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-comment-footer-reply-tab">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button><span></span> \
					</span>'
					: '')
			+ '</div> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};



	
	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		var item = '<li class="dsq-comment dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-header"> \
			<table> \
			<tr> \
			<td class="dsq-header-avatar"> \
			';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'" class="dsq-avatar">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {

			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar92.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== ''
				? '</a>'
				: '')
			+ '</td>'
			+ '<td><cite class="dsq-comment-cite">' + reaction.author_name + '</cite> <span class="dsq-comment-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</span></td>'
			+ '<td class="dsq-comment-header-likes"></td>'
			+ '</tr></table></div>' // end dsq-comment-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header" \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-reaction-header-left">'
							+ '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png" />'
							+ ' From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
							+ 'via <a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? 'BackType' : 'UberVU') + '</a>'
						+ '</td>'
						+ '<td class="dsq-reaction-header-right">';

			if(reaction.retweets) {
				var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
				if (num_retweets > 0) {
					if (num_retweets == 1) {
						item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
					} else {
						item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');
						item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
						var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 3) ? 3 : num_retweets;
						item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);
						if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
							item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
								+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
						}
					}
				}
			}	
			item += '</td></tr> \
			</table> \
			</div>' // end dsq-reaction-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-body"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left"> \
				</div>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator 
					? ' \
					<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right"> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-hide-reaction" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + ')">Hide</button> \
					</div>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 id="dsq-reactions-title" class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-container"> \
			<table> \
				<tbody> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-tl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-tr"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-body"> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
								<div class="dsq-popup-title"> \
									<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" style="float:right" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)">Close</button>'
									+ content['header'] 
								+ '</div>'
								+ content['body']
							+ '</div> \
							<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
						</td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-bl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-br"></td> \
					</tr> \
				</tbody> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
	};



	
	this.chooseSubscribe = function(post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		menu.style.display = menu.style.display == 'block' ? 'none' : 'block';
		
	};
	
	this.setSubscribe = function(value, el, post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var input = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid);
		var select = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-select' + pid);
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		select.innerHTML = el.innerHTML;
		input.value = value;
		this.chooseSubscribe(post_id);
	};
	
	this.getFormFields = function(post_id) {

		var fields = {};
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var name = Dsq.$('dsq-field-name' + pid);
		var email = Dsq.$('dsq-field-email' + pid);
		var website = Dsq.$('dsq-field-website' + pid);
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid);
		var password = Dsq.$('dsq-field-password' + pid);

		fields = {
			'name': name,
			'email': email,
			'website': website,
			'username': username,
			'password': password
		}
		
		return fields;
	}
	
	this.validateFields = function(post_id) {
		
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) { return true; }
		
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		
		var nameField = fields.name;
		var websiteField = fields.website;
		var emailField = fields.email;
		
		websiteField.value = (websiteField.value == Dsq.Templates.placeholder['website']) ? '' : websiteField.value;
		
		var v = [{

			validator: Dsq.Validators.name,
			value: nameField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.email,
			value: emailField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.url,
			value: websiteField.value
		}];
		
		return Dsq.Validators.validate(v, function(e) { Dsq.Popup.popModal(e, 'Oops...') } );
	};
	
	this.checkExistingUser = function(post_id) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);		
		Dsq.Popup.loading(post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		}
	};

	this.validateAuth = function(el_clicked, post_id, auth_choice) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		var email = fields.email ? fields.email.value : '';
		var username = fields.username ? fields.username.value : '';
		var password = fields.password ? fields.password.value : '';
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		}
	};

	this.lightboxUpdateEmail = function(post_id, new_email) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		fields.email.value = new_email;
	};

	this.lightboxAuthenticate = function(post_id, auth_choice, auth_data) {
		var title, body;
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		if(typeof(auth_data) == 'undefined') {
			var auth_data = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		}

		d = auth_data;

		switch(auth_choice) {
			case 'register':
				var suggestedUsername = d.name.value.replace(/[^a-zA-Z0-9-]/g,'').toLowerCase();
			
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Register a <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';

				body = ' \
				<ul class="dsq-lightbox-register-reasons"> \
				<li>Verify your comments</li> \
				<li>Edit and delete comments</li> \
				<li>Manage comments and replies</li> \
				</ul> \
				';

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Email</td> \
							<td><input type="text" value="' + d.email.value + '" onchange="Dsq.Templates.lightboxUpdateEmail(' + post_id + ', this.value)" /><div id="dsq-email-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + suggestedUsername + '"/><div id="dsq-username-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /><div id="dsq-password-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'login\'); return false">Login instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button type="button" class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Register and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			case 'login':
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Login to your <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';
				body = '';
				
				if(d.avatar_url) {
					body += '<div class="dsq-lightbox-recognized"><table><tr>';
					body += '<td><img src="' + d.avatar_url + '" alt="" /></td>';
					body += '<td><span class="dsq-badge ' + (d.verified ? 'dsq-badge-verified' : 'dsq-badge-registered') + '">' + (d.verified ? 'Verified' : 'Registered') + '</span></td>';
					body += '<td>Hey <strong>' + d.display_name + '</strong>, is that you? Login below to claim this comment.';
					body += '</tr></table></div>';
				}

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username or Email</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (d.avatar_url ? d.username : '') + '" /></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password <a href="http://disqus.com/forgot" target="_blank">(cannot log in?)</a></td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'register\'); return false">Register instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button type="button" class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Login and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
		Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid).focus();
	};
	
	this.buttonsToRestore = [];
	this.setLoadingButton = function(btn, post_id) {
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		if (btn) {

			var loadingBtn = document.createElement('button');
			loadingBtn.id = btn.id + '-loading';
			loadingBtn.innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-lite.gif" alt="" /> ' + Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
			loadingBtn.className = btn.className + ' dsq-post-loading';
			btn.parentNode.appendChild(loadingBtn);
			btn.style.display = 'none';
			var cancelBtn = Dsq.$('dsq-cancel-button' + pid);
			if(cancelBtn) { cancelBtn.style.display = 'none'; this.buttonsToRestore.push(cancelBtn); }
			this.buttonsToRestore.push(btn);
		} else {

			var buttons = this.buttonsToRestore;
			for(var i = 0; i < buttons.length; i++) {
				buttons[i].style.display = 'inline';
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$(buttons[i].id + '-loading'));
			}
		}
		
	};

	this.postComment = function(post_id, el_clicked, force, auth_choice) {
		var append_id = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);

		if (Dsq.Templates.validateFields(post_id)) {

			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && !force &&
				((!Dsq.Utils.readCookie('skipped_auth') && !disqus_skip_auth && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled) || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post)) {
				Dsq.Templates.checkExistingUser(post_id);
				return false;
			}
			var params = [];
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
				params.push(fields.name.value,
					fields.email.value,
					fields.website.value);

				if (auth_choice == 'login' || auth_choice == 'register') {
					params.push({
						auth_choice: auth_choice,
						username: fields.username.value,
						password: fields.password.value,
						email: fields.email.value
					});
				} else {
					params.push(null);
				}

				params.push(null /* sharing options */, Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + append_id).value);
			} else {
				var service_checked = function(name) {
					var el = Dsq.$('dsq-sharing-' + name + append_id);
					return (el !== null && el.checked === true) ? '1' : '0';
				};
				params.push(null, null, null, null, {
					tw: service_checked('twitter'),
					fb: service_checked('facebook'),
					tr: service_checked('tumblr'),
					wp: service_checked('wordpress'),
					mt: service_checked('movabletype'),
					tp: service_checked('typepad'),
					yh: service_checked('yahoo')
				});
			}

			var frame = Dsq.frames['reply_' + (post_id ? post_id : 0)];
			frame.post.apply(frame, params);

			if (el_clicked) {
				Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
			}
			
			if (force) {
				Dsq.Utils.createCookie('skipped_auth', true);	
			}
			
		} else {
			return false;
		}
	};

	this.editComment = function(el_clicked, post_id) {
		var edited_message = Dsq.$('dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id).value;

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].edit(post_id, edited_message);
	};

	this.toggleEdit = function(post_id) {
		var body = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-body-' + post_id);
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);

		if (!Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id]) {


			message.style.display = 'none';
			if (Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {

				var edit_area = document.createElement('div');
				edit_area.id = 'dsq-edit-' + post_id;
				edit_area.className = 'dsq-edit dsq-textarea';
				edit_area.innerHTML = ' \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper"> \
					<textarea class="dsq-edit-textarea" id="dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id + '">' + message.innerHTML + '</textarea> \
				</div> \
				<div class="dsq-save-edit"> \
					<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.editComment(this, ' + post_id + ')" class="dsq-button-small">Save Edit</button> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id + '" style="display: none"></div> \
				';

				body.appendChild(edit_area);

				if (!Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id), post_id);
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].init();
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
		} else {

			message.style.display = 'block';
			Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id] = !Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id];
	};
	
	this.edit = function(el, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(post_id, button) {
		
		if(!this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

			if (Dsq.$('dsq-reply-post-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id);
				var container = Dsq.$('dsq-textarea-wrapper-' + post_id);
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] && container) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(container, post_id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].init(function() {

						Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id, true);
						Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id).innerHTML = '';

						var theme = (typeof disqus_frame_theme == 'undefined') ? 'default' : disqus_frame_theme;
						Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id), post_id, {theme: theme});

					});
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-append-post';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply-active';
			
		} else {

			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = '';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply';
		}
		
		this.stateReplyToggled[post_id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[post_id];

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie && this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

		}

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: post_id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]
		});
	};
	
	this.moderateOptions = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		if(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) { return false; }

		var html;
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-moderate-options"> \
		<table>'
		+ (_meta.email ? '<tr><td>Email</td><td>' + _meta.email + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ (_meta.ip ? '<tr><td>IP address</td><td>' + _meta.ip + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ '<tr> \
			<td>Actions</td> \
			<td><ul>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
				? '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
				: '')
			+ '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Delete Comment</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li> \
			</ul></td> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		html += '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
		
		return Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Moderate Options', post_id);
	};
	
	this.placeholder = {
		'class': 'dsq-placeholder',
		'name': Dsq.Strings.NAME,
		'email': Dsq.Strings.EMAIL,
		'website': Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')'
	};
	
	this.handlePlaceholder = function(evt, el, key) {
		var placeholder = Dsq.Templates.placeholder[key];
		var className = Dsq.Templates.placeholder['class'];
		
		switch(evt.type) {
			case 'focus':
				if(el.value == placeholder) {
					el.value = '';
					el.className = '';
				}
				break;

			case 'blur':
				if(el.value == '') {
					el.value = placeholder;
					el.className = className;
				}
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
	};
	
	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked) {

		var extra_params = '';

		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked);
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'obsolete_skills'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};
	
	
	this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {


		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
			}
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/vote.js'
				+ '?post_id='    + id
				+ '&vote='        + vote);
		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login('To rate, please log in');
		}
	};

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {

		Dsq.$('dsq-like-pts-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.';

		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;';
		}
	};




	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {
		var approved = response.message.post_meta.approved;

		if (parent_post_id) {
			Dsq.Post.toggleReply(parent_post_id);
		}

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
		
		if (approved) {
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		} else {			
			var unapproved_msg = 'Thanks for posting!\
	 Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.\
			';
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(unapproved_msg, 'Comment awaiting approval', post_id);
		}

		var sharing_results = response.message.sharing_results;
		var sharing_errors = '';
		for (var service in sharing_results) {
			if (sharing_results.hasOwnProperty(service) === true) {
				if (sharing_results[service].error === true) {
					sharing_errors += service + ', ';
				}
			}
		}

		if (sharing_results.facebook && sharing_results.facebook.callback) {
			FB.ensureInit(function() {
				FB.Connect.streamPublish('', sharing_results.facebook.attachment);
			});
		}

		if (sharing_errors !== '') {
			var message = 'Your comment was posted, but there were errors sharing with the following connections: ';
			message += sharing_errors.replace(/,\s$/, '');
			message += '<p><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections" target="_blank">Configure your connections here</a></p>'
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sharing options');
		}

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.postComment_onFailure = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
};




// TODO: It might be faster to use string methods to find all <li (...) </li> blocks and pass to Dsq.PostHandler manually.
Dsq.CommentsHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_post = Dsq.Templates.prependPost(post_id);
	var append_post = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(post_id);

	content = content.replace(Dsq.POST_RE, Dsq.PostHandler);
	Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter++;
	head = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContainer(post_id, head);
	return prepend_post + head + content + tail + append_post;
};

Dsq.PostHandler = function(str, h_head, post_id, h_content, h_tail, b_head, b_content, b_tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_header = Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader(post_id);
	var append_header = Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader(post_id);
	var prepend_body = Dsq.Templates.preBody(post_id);
	var append_body = Dsq.Templates.postBody(post_id);
	var append_footer = Dsq.Templates.postFooter(post_id);

	b_content = b_content.replace(Dsq.POST_BODY_RE, Dsq.PostBodyHandler);
	return h_head + prepend_header + h_content + append_header + h_tail + b_head + prepend_body + b_content + append_body + b_tail + append_footer;
};

Dsq.PostBodyHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	content = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContent(post_id, content);
	return head + content + tail;
};

Dsq.MediaPostHandler = function(str, args, offset, s) {
	args = args.split(' ');
	if(args[0] == 'seesmic') {
		return '<br />' + Dsq.Templates.mediaSeesmic(args[1], args[2]);
	}
	return '';
};


/**
 * Shorcuts
 */
Dsq.$ = function(element) { return document.getElementById(element); };
Dsq.$b = document.body || document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0];


/**
 * Dsq.Debug: Logging functions.
 */

Dsq.Debug = new function() {this.log=function(s){};this.profile=function(f){if(typeof f == 'function')return f();else return eval(f);};};


/**
 * Dsq.Urls: URL paths
 */
Dsq.Urls = new function() {
	this.LOGIN = '/profile/login/';
	this.LOGOUT = '/logout/';
	this.REPLY = 'http://scobleizer.disqus.com/obsolete_skills/reply.html';
	this.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE = '/AnonymousUser/';
	this.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR = 'http://media.disqus.com/images/noavatar92.png';
};
// Dsq.Urls

/**
 * Dsq.Validators: Validation for form fields
 */
Dsq.Validators = new function() {
	this.VALID_EMAIL_RE = /^[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*\@(([a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*)+\.[a-z]{2,}|([0-9]+\.){3}[0-9]+)$/i;
	this.name = function(name) {
		var error = false;

		if(typeof Dsq.Templates.placeholder !== 'undefined' &&
		   name == Dsq.Templates.placeholder.name) {
			error = true;
		}
		if(name.length <= 1) {
			error = true;
		}

		if(error) {
			return "Please enter a name to comment.";
		} else {
			return true;
		}
	};
	this.email = function(addr) {
		if(Dsq.Validators.VALID_EMAIL_RE.test(addr)) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please enter a valid email to comment.";
		}
	};
	this.url = function(addr) {
		if(!addr || addr.indexOf('.') != -1) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please check your website URL (this field is optional).";
		}
	};

	this.validate = function(bulk_validation, failure_callback) {
		failure_callback = failure_callback || function(e){ alert(e); };

		for(var i = 0; i < bulk_validation.length; i++) {
			v = bulk_validation[i];
			ret = v.validator(v.value);
			if(ret !== true) {
				failure_callback(ret);
				return false;
			}
		}
		return true;
	};
};

/**
 * Dsq.Utils: Generic utility functions.
 */
Dsq.Utils = new function() {
	this.ie = /msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent);
	this.ie7 = (document.all && !window.opera && window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true : false;
	this.ie6 = (!window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true: false;
	this.webkit = navigator.userAgent.indexOf('AppleWebKit/') >= 0;
	this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache = {};
	this._styleSheet = null;

	this.gebiFromElement = function(el, id, tag) {
		// This only method only helps IE.
		if(!this.ie) {
			return Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var cacheKey = el.id + '-' + tag;
			tag = tag || 'div';
			if(typeof this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] != 'undefined') {
				collection = this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey];
			} else {
				collection = el.getElementsByTagName(tag);
				this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] = collection;
			}

			for(var i = 0; i < collection.length; i++) {
				if(collection[i].id == id) {
					return collection[i];
				}
			}
			return null;
		}
	};

	this.execOnReady = function(func) {
		var node = document.createElement('document:ready');
		try {
			node.doScroll('left');
			func();
			node = null;
		} catch(err) {
			setTimeout(function() { Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(func); }, 10);
		}
	};


	// Courtesy of http://www.quirksmode.org/js/cookies.html
	this.createCookie = function(name,value,days) {
		if (days) {
			var date = new Date();
			date.setTime(date.getTime()+(days*24*60*60*1000));
			var expires = "; expires="+date.toGMTString();
		}
		else var expires = "";
		document.cookie = name+"="+value+expires+"; path=/";
	};

	this.readCookie = function(name) {
		var nameEQ = name + "=";
		var ca = document.cookie.split(';');
		for(var i=0;i < ca.length;i++) {
			var c = ca[i];
			while (c.charAt(0)==' ') c = c.substring(1,c.length);
			if (c.indexOf(nameEQ) == 0) return c.substring(nameEQ.length,c.length);
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.eraseCookie = function(name) {
		Dsq.Utils.createCookie(name,"",-1);
	};

	this.deleteNode = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			this.deleteChildren(node);
			if(typeof node.outerHTML != 'undefined') { node.outerHTML = ''; }
			else if(node.parentNode) { node.parentNode.removeChild(node); }
			delete node;
		}
	};

	this.deleteChildren = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			for(var x = node.childNodes.length-1; x >= 0; x--) {
				var childNode = node.childNodes[x];
				if(childNode.hasChildNodes()) { this.deleteChildren(childNode); }
				if(typeof childNode.outerHTML != 'undefined') { childNode.outerHTML = ''; }
				else node.removeChild(childNode);
				delete childNode;
			}
		}
	};

	this.findPos = function(obj) {
		var curleft = 0;
		var curtop = 0;
		if (obj.offsetParent) {
			do {
				curleft += obj.offsetLeft;
				curtop += obj.offsetTop;
			} while (obj = obj.offsetParent);
		}
		return [curleft,curtop];
	};

	this.getWindowSize = function() {
		var windowWidth = -1;
		var windowHeight = -1;

		if(typeof(window.innerWidth) == 'number') { //Non-IE
			windowWidth = window.innerWidth;
			windowHeight = window.innerHeight;
		} else if(document.documentElement) { // IE 6+ in 'standards compliant mode'
			windowWidth = document.documentElement.clientWidth || document.body.clientWidth;
			windowHeight = document.documentElement.clientHeight || document.body.clientHeight;
		}

		return [windowWidth, windowHeight];
	}

	this.getScrollPos = function() {
		var scrollWidth, scrollTop;

		if(document.documentElement && (document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.documentElement.scrollWidth)) {
			scrollWidth = document.documentElement.scrollWidth;
			// IE is weird here.  If no doctype is provided, document.body.scrollTop is 0,
			// otherwise document.documentElement.scrollTop is 0.
			scrollTop = document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.body.scrollTop;
		} else if(document.body.scrollTop && document.body.scrollWidth) {
			scrollWidth = document.body.scrollWidth;
			scrollTop = document.body.scrollTop;
		}

		return [scrollWidth, scrollTop];
	}

	this.addEventListener = function(instance, eventName, listener) {
		var listenerFn = listener;
		if (instance.addEventListener) {
			instance.addEventListener(eventName, listenerFn, false);
		} else if (instance.attachEvent) {
			listenerFn = function() {
				listener(window.event);
			};
			instance.attachEvent("on" + eventName, listenerFn);
		} else {
			throw new Error("Event registration not supported");
		}
		return {
			instance: instance,
			name: eventName,
			listener: listenerFn
		};
	};

	this.removeEventListener = function(event) {
		var instance = event.instance;
		if (instance.removeEventListener) {
			instance.removeEventListener(event.name, event.listener, false);
		} else if (instance.detachEvent) {
			instance.detachEvent("on" + event.name, event.listener);
		}
	};

	this.fixIframesIE = function(id) {
		var disqusThread = Dsq.$(disqus_container_id);
		var iframes = disqusThread.getElementsByTagName('iframe');

		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-content');
		}

		for(i = 0; i < iframes.length; i++) {
			if (container) {
				iframes[i].style.width = container.offsetWidth;
			}
		}
	};

	this.getElementsByClassName = function(oElm, strTagName, strClassName) {
	/* Credit: Jonathan Snook [http://www.snook.ca/jonathan], Robert Nyman [http://www.robertnyman.com] */
		var arrElements = (strTagName == "*" && oElm.all)? oElm.all : oElm.getElementsByTagName(strTagName);
		var arrReturnElements = new Array();
		strClassName = strClassName.replace(/\-/g, "\\-");
		var oRegExp = new RegExp("(^|\\s)" + strClassName + "(\\s|$)");
		var oElement;
		for(var i = 0; i < arrElements.length; i++) {
			oElement = arrElements[i];
			if(oRegExp.test(oElement.className)) {
				arrReturnElements.push(oElement);
			}
		}
		return (arrReturnElements);
	};

	this.postToUrl = function(url, post_data, opt_redirect) {
		var form = document.createElement('form');
		var iframe_container = document.createElement('div');
		var id = 'dsq-temp-iframe-' + (new Date()).getTime();

		form.method = 'POST';
		form.action = url;
		if (!opt_redirect) {
			form.target = id;
		}
		iframe_container.innerHTML = '<iframe style="display:none" name="' + id + '" id="' + id + '"></iframe>';

		for(var key in post_data) {
			if(post_data.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var input = document.createElement('input');
				input.name = key;
				input.type = 'hidden';
				input.value = post_data[key];

				form.appendChild(input);
			}
		}

		Dsq.$b.appendChild(iframe_container);
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(form);
		form.submit();
	};

	// Strips integer id from id of element in the form ('some-id-###')
	this.extractId = function(e) {
		var chunks = e.id.split('-');
		if(chunks.length <= 1) {
			return 0;
		} else {
			var retval = parseInt(chunks[chunks.length-1]);
			return !isNaN(retval) ? retval : null;
		}
	};

	this.getStyle = function(el, styleProp) {
		if(el.currentStyle) {
			var y = el.currentStyle[styleProp];
		} else if(window.getComputedStyle) {
			var y = document.defaultView.getComputedStyle(el, null).getPropertyValue(styleProp);
		}

		if(y == 'transparent' || y == '') {
			this.getStyle(el.parentNode, styleProp);
		} else {
			return y;
		}
	};

	this.execScript = function(url, append_qs, container) {
		var script = document.createElement('script');
		append_qs = typeof append_qs == 'undefined' ? true : append_qs;
		container = container || Dsq.container;

		if(append_qs) {
			var j = (url.indexOf('?') >= 0) ? '&' : '?';
			url += j + (new Date()).getTime();
		}
		script.type = 'text/javascript';
		script.charset = 'UTF-8';
		script.src = url;
		container.appendChild(script);
		return script;
	};

	this.pluralize = function(num, singular, plural) {
		return (num != 1) ? plural || 's' : singular || '';
	};

	this.getRequestParams = function(queryString /* optional */) {
		var pairs, tuple;
		var params = {};

		queryString = queryString || window.location.search.substring(1);
		pairs = queryString.split('&');

		for (var i = 0, pair; pair = pairs[i]; i++) {
			tuple = pair.split('=');
			params[tuple[0]] = (tuple[1] || true);
		}

		return params;
	};

	this.addCssRule = function(selector, styleText, index) {
		var stylesheet;
		index = index || 0;

		if(!this._styleSheet) {
			var styleEl = document.createElement('style');
			document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(styleEl);
			this._styleSheet = styleEl.sheet;
			if(!this._styleSheet) {
				// IE does not like our newly created stylesheet.
				this._styleSheet = document.styleSheets[document.styleSheets.length-1];
			}
		}
		stylesheet = this._styleSheet;

		if(stylesheet.insertRule) {
			var ruleText = selector + ' { ' + styleText + ' }';
			if(index == -1) {
				index = stylesheet.cssRules.length;
			}
			stylesheet.insertRule(ruleText, index);
		} else if(stylesheet.addRule) {
			stylesheet.addRule(selector, styleText, index);
		}
	};

	this.forEachIn = function(obj, callback) {
		for(var key in obj) {
			if(obj.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				callback(key, obj[key]);
			}
		}
	};

	this._interpolateGlobalContext = {
		// values that get used a lot and are global to the request
		'profile_url': Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE,

		'disqus_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url,
		'media_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url,
		'request_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.username,
		'request_display_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username,
		'forum_name': Dsq.jsonData.forum.name
	};

	this.renderFromContextStack = function(key, contexts) {
		// Returns the first instance of `key` in the array of objects `contexts` or else ''
		for (var i=0; i<contexts.length; i++) {
			if (contexts[i][key] !== undefined) {
				return String(contexts[i][key]);
			}
		}
		throw new Error('key ' + key + ' not found in context');
	};

	var that = this;
	this.interpolate = function(fmt, opt_localContext) {
		// Interpolate `fmt` named-format string with an assumed global context.
		// Based on `interpolate` in django.views.i18n
		var contextStack = [opt_localContext || {}, that._interpolateGlobalContext];
		return fmt.replace(/%\(\w+\)s/g, function(match){
			return that.renderFromContextStack(match.slice(2,-2), contextStack);
		});
	};

	this.stripTags = function(s) {
		// Removes HTML tags from `s`
		return s.replace(/(<([^>]+)>)/g,"");

	};

	this.assert = function(b) {
		if (!b) {
			throw new Error('Assertion error.');
		}
	};

};
// Dsq.Utils

/**
 * Dsq.Popup: Popup helper functions.
 */
Dsq.Popup = new function() {
	this.timeHide = new Array();
	this.timeShow = new Array();
	this.activePopup = {};
	this.profileCache = {};
	this.statusCache = {};

	this.showTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the hide timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeHide[post_id]);

		// start the timer
		if(!Dsq.Popup.profileIsOn && !Dsq.Thread.adminIsOn) {
			this.timeShow[post_id] = setTimeout("Dsq.Popup.popProfile(\"" + post_id + "\")", 400);
		}
	};

	this.hideTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the show timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeShow[post_id]);
	};

	this.updateProfile = function(username) {
		// Callback from /embed/profile.js
		if (this.statusCache[username]) {
			var statusEl = Dsq.$('dsq-profile-status-' + username);
			statusEl.innerHTML = this.statusCache[username];
			statusEl.style.display = 'block';
		}

		if (this.profileCache[username]) {
			var _cache = this.profileCache[username];

			var _genhtml = function(text) { return '<span><big>' + text + '</big></span>'; };
			var _no_comments = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS(_cache.comments_count));
			var _no_likes = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_LIKES(_cache.likes_count));
			var _no_points = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_POINTS(_cache.points));

			var statsEl = Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + username);
			statsEl.innerHTML = '';

			if (Dsq.jsonData.users[username].registered) {
				statsEl.innerHTML = _no_comments + _no_likes;
			}
			statsEl.innerHTML += _no_points;

			var activeSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.active_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.active_sites[i];
				activeSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (activeSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = activeSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = 'This site.';
			}

			var moderatedSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.moderated_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.moderated_sites[i];
				moderatedSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (moderatedSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + username).innerHTML = moderatedSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + username).innerHTML = '';
			}
		}

		// Reposition popup after full HTML is rendered
		if(Dsq.Popup.activePopup && Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el) {
			Dsq.Popup.initPopup(Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.type);
		}

	};

	this.showCookieMsgs = function() {
		var title = '';
		var message = '';
		var numAlerts = 0;

		Dsq.Utils.forEachIn(Dsq.jsonData.cookie_messages, function(k, v) {
			if (!v) return;

			switch(k) {
				// Cookie: Twitter
				case 'post_twitter':
					if (v === 'error') {
						title = 'Twitter Error!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-error">Oops, we couldn\'t tweet this comment. Please check your <a href="http://disqus.com/account/services">account settings</a>.</li>';
					} else {
						var _msg = v.split(':');
						title = 'Tweeted!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-success">Your comment was successfully tweeted. <a href="http://twitter.com/' + _msg[0] + '/status/' + _msg[1] + '">Click here to view the tweet</a>.</li>';
					}
					break;
				// Cookie: Unapproved Post
				case 'post_not_approved':
					title = 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-not-approved">Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.</li>';
					break;
				// Cookie: Profile Found
				case 'post_has_profile':
					title = 'Use your existing commenter profile';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-has-profile">You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a></li>';
					break;
				case 'user_created':
					var _data = v.split(':');
					title = 'Profile created!';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-user-created">You have just created a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, the best way to claim, manage, and track your comments all over the web. \
					<br /><br />A confirmation is being sent to <strong>' + _data[1] + '</strong>. Please check for this email in order to verify your profile. \
					<ul class="dsq-list-tick"> \
						<li>Your username is <strong>' + _data[0] +'</strong>. <a href="http://disqus.com/people/' + _data[0] + '/" target="_blank">Click here to view your public profile</a>.</li> \
						<li>Be sure to set your profile picture, as well as connect your <span class="dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> and <span class="dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> accounts. <a href="http://disqus.com/account/" target="_blank">Click here for account settings</a>.</li> \
					</ul> \
					</li>'
					break;
				default:
					break;
			}
			numAlerts++;
		});

		if(numAlerts > 1) {
			message = '<ul class="dsq-list-bluebullet">' + message;
			message += '</ul>';
			title = 'Thanks for posting!';
		}
		if(numAlerts > 0) {
			if(typeof(disqus_cookie_msgs) == 'function') {
				disqus_cookie_msgs(message, title);
			} else {
				Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
			}
		}
	};

	this.helpBadges = function(post_id) {
		var html = ' \
			<ul class="dsq-popup-help"> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile with a confirmed email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, but has not yet confirmed his or her email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span> is not logged in with any account and has not claimed his or her comments.</li> \
				<li class="dsq-help-otheraccts">Other accounts</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> is using his or her Facebook profile via Facebook Connect.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> is using his or her Twitter profile via Twitter Sign-in.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-openid">OpenID</span> is using his or her OpenID.</li> \
			</ul> \
		';

		this.popModal(html, 'Help: Types of Commenters', post_id);
		return;
	};

	this.permalink = function(post_id) {
		var header = 'Link to this comment';
		var body = '<strong>You are anchored to</strong>:<br />' + document.location.protocol + '//' + document.location.host + document.location.pathname + document.location.search + '#comment-' + post_id;

		this.popModal(body, header, post_id);
	};

	this.login = function(header, body) {
		var h = header || 'Login or Register';
		var b = body || '';
		b += Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: 'dsq-popup-login'});
		b += '</iframe>'; // HACK: Sometimes there is something funky with the IFRAME SRC that causes no end tag
		this.popModal(b, h, null, true, 'dsq-popup-login');
	};

	this.blacklist = function(id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		var title = 'Add to Blacklist';
		var message = ' \
		Adding this person to the blacklist will block him or her from commenting on this site. Check the following types that you would like to add to the blacklist:'
		+ (userData['registered'] ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-username" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-username"><strong>Username</strong>: ' + userData['username'] + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ (_meta.email ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-email" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-email"><strong>Email address</strong>: ' + _meta.email + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ '<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
			<input id="dsq-blacklist-ip" type="checkbox" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-blacklist-ip-warning\').style.display=\'block\'"> \
			<label for="dsq-blacklist-ip"><strong>IP address</strong>: ' + _meta.ip + '</label> \
		</div> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p id="dsq-blacklist-ip-warning" style="display:none">	\
				Note: Blocking this person\'s IP address may also unintentionally prevent others, who share his/her IP address, from commenting on this site. \
				This may include people who are sharing the same computer, living in the same house, or using the same Internet provider. Only block an IP address as a last resort. \
			</p> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p style="text-align:center"><button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Post.blockUser(' + id + '); this.disabled=true; this.innerHTML=\'Just one moment...\'">Add to Blacklist</button></p> \
		';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
	};

	this.remoteAccountSettings = function() {
		var body = '';
		// Set up IFrame.
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/_auth/embed/remote_settings/';
		var attributes = {id: 'dsq-popup-account-settings'};
		if (typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}

		body = Dsq.Templates._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
		this.popModal(body, 'Account Settings', null, true, 'dsq-popup-account-settings');
	};

	this.popModal = function(message, title, post_id, use_listener, extra_classes) {
		var container = document.createElement('div');
		var header, body;

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);

		if(typeof(title) == 'undefined') { title = ''; }
		if(typeof(use_listener) == 'undefined') { use_listener = true; }

		if(post_id) {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message-' + post_id;
		} else {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message';
		}

		header = title;
		body = message;

		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupModal(header, body);
		Dsq.Popup.initPopup(container, post_id, 'message', extra_classes);
		if(use_listener) {
			Dsq.Popup.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', Dsq.Popup._closePopup);
		}
	};

	this.popAlert = this.popModal;

	this.loading = function(post_id) {
		var title = Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
		var body = '<div style="text-align:center; padding: 5px 0 10px 0"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif" alt="" /></div>'
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
	};

	this.lightbox = function(message, title, post_id) {
		// Wraps Dsq.Popup.popModal

		var overlay = document.createElement('div');
		overlay.id = 'dsq-overlay';
		overlay.className = 'dsq-overlay';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(overlay);
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, post_id, false, 'dsq-lightbox');
	};

	this.popProfile = function(post_id, userKey) {
		var post = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id];
		if (post && post.has_been_anonymized) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('This message was anonymized by its previous owner.', 'Anonymized', post_id);
			return;
		}

		if(post_id) {
			userKey = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id].user_key;	
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][userKey];
		var elId = 'dsq-popup-profile-' + userKey;
		var container = document.createElement('div');

		if(this.activePopup.el) {
			this._closePopup(null, true);
			if(this.activePopup.linkClicked) {
				this.activePopup.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		container.id = elId;
		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupProfile(userKey);

		this.initPopup(container, post_id, 'profile');
		this.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._closePopup);

		if(!this.profileCache[userKey]) {
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/embed/profile.js'
				+ '?username=' + userKey
				+ '&anon=' + (userData['registered'] ? 0 : 1)
				+ '&f=' + Dsq.jsonData['request'].forum);
		} else {
			this.updateProfile(userKey);
		}
	};

	this._closePopup = function(e, force) {
		var activePopup = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el;
		var id = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id;
		var link = 'dsq-avatar-' + id; // HACK: Specific to profile toggle target

		// HACK: This event should be gone if there is no active popup.
		if(!activePopup) {
			return;
		}
		if(force || !Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, activePopup.id)) {
			// TODO: This is breaking iE?
			if(Dsq.Popup.popupListener) {
				Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Popup.popupListener);
			}
			
			// Kill overlay
			var overlay = Dsq.$('dsq-overlay');
			if(overlay) { Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(overlay); }
			
			try {
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(activePopup);
			} catch(e) {
				// HACK: IE6 throws an error when using deleteNode() with a node containing a <table> in the html.
				activePopup.parentNode.removeChild(activePopup);
			}
			Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {};
		}

		if(!force && Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Popup.activePopup.linkClicked = true;
		}

	};

	this.initPopup = function(popup, post_id, type, extra_classes) {
		popup.className = 'dsq-popup dsq-popup-' + type + ' ' + (extra_classes ? extra_classes : '');
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6 || Dsq.Utils.ie7) {
			// HACK: We can't modify the body before it's ready, so we need
			//       to use an IE-safe "DOMReady" workaround before loading
			//       our popup.
			Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(function() {Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup); });
		} else {
			Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup);
		}

		popup.style.display = 'block';

		var xPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[0] - popup.offsetWidth) / 2;
		var yPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[1] - popup.offsetHeight) / 2;

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
			yPos += Dsq.Utils.getScrollPos()[1];
		}

		popup.style.left = xPos + 'px';
		popup.style.top = yPos + 'px';

		Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {
			'el' : popup,
			'id' : post_id,
			'type': type,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};
	};

	this.isClicked = function(e, id) {
		var t = e.target || e.srcElement;
		while(t && t.parentNode) {
			if(t.id == id) {
				return true;
			}

			t = t.parentNode;
		}
		return false;
	};
};
// Dsq.Popup

/**
 * Dsq.Templates
 */
Dsq.Templates = new function() {
	/*
	 * Counter keeping track of the number of posts iterated over.
	 */
	this.postLoopCounter = 0;
	this.filters = {};
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-post-add';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-post-add';

	this.registerTemplate = function(name, func) {
		this['$$_' + name] = func;

		if(typeof DsqLocal.Filters != 'undefined'
		&& typeof DsqLocal.Filters[name] == 'function') {
			// Push filters to this.filters to unify code.
			this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
			this.filters[name].push(DsqLocal.Filters[name]);
		}

		this[name] = function() {
			var ret;

			if(typeof DsqLocal.Templates != 'undefined'
			&& typeof DsqLocal.Templates[name] == 'function') {
				ret = DsqLocal.Templates[name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(ret === undefined) {
				ret = this['$$_' + name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(this.filters[name]) {
				var args = [ret];

				args.push.apply(args, arguments);
				for(var i = 0; i < this.filters[name].length; i++) {
					ret = this.filters[name][i].apply(this, args);
				}
			}

			return ret;
		};
	};

	this.registerFilter = function(name, func) {
		this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
		this.filters[name].push(func);
	};

	/**
	 * Dsq.Templates.Filters
	 */
	this.Filters = new function() {
		this.commentContainer = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var classes = [];
			if(Dsq.jsonData.request.page > 1) {
				classes.push('dsq-append');
			}

			//
			// Extra classes used for custom themes
			//

			if(_meta.depth) {
				classes.push('dsq-comment-child', 'dsq-depth-' + _meta.depth, 'dsq-parent-is-' + _meta.parent_post_id);
			}


			//

			if(_meta.author_is_creator) {
				// TODO: We need to deprecate the "special" class since it is not properly prefixed.
				classes.push('special', 'dsq-special');
			}
			if(_meta.author_is_moderator) {
				classes.push('dsq-moderator');
			}
			classes.push(['dsq-odd', 'dsq-even'][Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter % 2]);

			s = s.substring(0, s.lastIndexOf('>'));
			return s + ' class="dsq-comment ' + classes.join(' ') + '" style="margin-left:' + _meta.depth*30 + 'px">';
		};

		this.commentContent = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			if (_meta.killed) {
				return '<em>Comment removed.</em>';
			} else if (!_meta.approved) {
				return '<em>This comment was flagged for review.</em>';
			}

			s = s.replace(Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE, Dsq.MediaPostHandler);
			return s;
		};
	};

	//
	// Thread
	//
	// TODO: These need to be stripped of all Django template tags.

	this.authPost = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			return '';
		}
		var result = [];
		result = result.concat([
				'<div id="dsq-auth"',
						Dsq.jsonData.integration.reply_position ? 'class="dsq-auth-bottom"' : '',
						'>',
					'<div class="dsq-by">',
						'<a href="http://disqus.com" target="_blank">',
							(Dsq.jsonData.integration.disqus_logo ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/by-disqus.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">') :
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/dsq-button-120x19.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">')
							),
						'</a>',
					'</div>',
					'<div class="dsq-auth-header">',
						'<h3 id="dsq-add-new-comment" class="dsq-h3-addcomment">',
								Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT,
						'</h3>',
						'<div id="dsq-login">',
						(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
								? '<p class="dsq-login-message" id="dsq-login-message">You are commenting as a <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. You may select one to log into:</p>'
								: '')
		]);
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			result = result.concat([
							Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
								'<a id="dsq-login-toggle" href="%(disqus_url)s%(login_url)s?next=article:%(thread_id)s" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsq-profile-btn.png" title="%(log_into)s" alt="%(log_into)s"/></a>',
								{login_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGIN, thread_id: Dsq.jsonData.thread.id, log_into: Dsq.Strings.LOG_INTO_DISQUS}
								),
							'&nbsp; ',
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ?
								'<div id="dsq-fbc-login" onlogin="DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin()" size="medium" background="light" length="short" style="display:inline; margin-right:7px"></div>' :
								''
							),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-twitter-login" class="dsq-twitter-login" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect();" style="display:inline; cursor: pointer"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/twitter-signin-short.png" style="margin-right:7px" /></div>', {}) : ''),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-openid-login" class="dsq-openid-login" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL();" style="display:inline; cursor:pointer;"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/openid-login-button.png"/></div>', {}
								) : '')
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
						'</div>', // dsq-login
					'</div>', // dsq-auth-header
					'<div id="dsq-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated" ',
						Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated ? 'style="display:block"' : '',
						'>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-pic">',
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">' +
																			'<img class="dsq-post-avatar" src="%(avatar_url)s" alt="" /></a>',
																			{avatar_url: Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR,
																			url: (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
																					 ? Dsq.jsonData.request.url
																					 : Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE) }),
						'</div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>', {url:Dsq.jsonData.request.url})
										  )
										: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(profile_url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>')
											)
									),
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">',
									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsqicon12.png" alt="%(logged_in_as)s"/>&nbsp',
											{logged_in_as: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username)})
										: ''),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="%(logout_from_disqus)s">',
											{logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN, logout_from_disqus: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('DISQUS')})
										: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'twitter')
												? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using Twitter (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
												 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
												: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'openid')
													 ? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using OpenID (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
													 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
													 : ''
													)
											)
									),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote ? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('<span class="logo-disqus">DISQUS</span>') : ''),
									'</a>',
								'</li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
		]);
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect) {
			result = result.concat([
					'<div id="dsq-fbc-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated">',
						'<div id="dsq-fbc-profilepic" class="dsq-authenticated-pic" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.ProfilePic" size="square" facebook-logo="true"></div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									'Logged in as <span id="dsq-fbc-name" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.Name" linked="true" useyou="false"></span>',
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">using Facebook Connect <a href="#" onclick="javascript:DisqusFbcParentController.logout();return false;">(Logout)</a></li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
				'</div>', // dsq-auth
				'<div id="dsq-toolbar-items">',
				'</div>'
		]);
		result = result.concat([
					//
					//
					//
				((!Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) ?
					// Needs to be translated:
					('<p id="dsq-no-anon-msg">Required: Please log into <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> ' +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? 'or connect with Facebook ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? 'or sign in with Twitter ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? 'or sign in using OpenID ' : '') +
					Dsq.Utils.interpolate('to comment on <strong>%(forum_name)s</strong>.</p>')) :
					''
				),
				'<div id="dsq-post-add"></div>',
				'<div style="margin:10px 0">',
				((Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media) ?
						'<a href="#" id="dsq-media-link" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, false, \'media\'); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.USE_MEDIA + ' <small>&#9660;</small></a>' :
						''),
				'</div>'
		]);
		return result.join('');
	};


	this.header = function() {

		var html = '\<h3 id="dsq-comments-count" class="dsq-h3-commentcount">\
	 <span id="dsq-num-posts">213</span> Comments\
	 &nbsp;\
	 <span class="dsq-item-feed">\
	 <a href="http://scobleizer.disqus.com/obsolete_skills/latest.rss"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png"></a>\
	 </span>\
	 </h3>\
	 <div id="dsq-options" style="margin:15px 0">\
	 <span class="dsq-item-sort">\
	 Sort by\
	 <select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);">\
	 <option value="hot" selected="selected">Popular now</option>\
	 <option value="best" >Best Rating</option>\
	 <option value="newest" >Newest first</option>\
	 <option value="oldest" >Oldest first</option>\
	 </select>\
	 &nbsp;\
	 </span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-cp"><a href="http://scobleizer.disqus.com/obsolete_skills/">Community Page</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-subscribe">\
	 <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle">\
	 <span id="dsq-subscribe">\
	 <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a>\
	 </span>\
	 </span>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-alerts">\
	 <p>Comments for this page are closed.</p>\
	 </div>\
		';

		

		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) { 
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-alert-message dsq-upgrade-message"> \
				<strong>Disqus upgrade available.</strong> Hi ' + Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username + ', this message is being displayed to you because you are a moderator of this site. <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-upgrade-message\').style.display=\'block\';this.style.display=\'none\';return false">Click here for details.</a> \
				<div style="display:none; margin-top:10px;" id="dsq-upgrade-message"> \
					A new theme is available with added features. <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/settings/' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url + '/?p=customize">To change your theme, click here</a> and choose the theme Narcissus. \
					If you do not upgrade, you are missing out on features such as: real-time commenting, new sign-in integrations, and an upgrade interface. \
					<strong>This message will automatically go away in one week.</strong> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			' + html; 
		}
		return html;
	};

	this.footer = function() {
		var html = Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.authPost();
		

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		

		return html;
	};

	this.pagination = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) { Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = ''; }
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.thread.paginate) { return ''; }

		//
		// TODO: num_paginator still uses the template tag for pagination, 
		// 		while append_paginator does it all in JavaScript.
		//		This should all be in JavaScript.
		//

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages > 1 && Dsq.jsonData.request.page < Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages) {
			html = ' \<a class="dsq-paginate-append-text" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this); return false">Show more comments...</a>\
	 <button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-paginate-append-button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this);">Load more comments</button>\
			';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = html;
			return '';
		} else {
			return '<div id="dsq-pagination" class="dsq-pagination">' + html + '</div>';
		}
	};

	this.trackbacks = function() {
		var html = '';

		if(typeof DsqLocal != 'undefined' && DsqLocal.trackback_url && DsqLocal.trackbacks) {
			var trackbacks = DsqLocal.trackbacks;
			var trackback_url = DsqLocal.trackback_url;
		} else {
			var trackbacks = [
			
			
			];
			var trackback_url = 'http://scobleizer.disqus.com/obsolete_skills/trackback/';
		}

		html += '<div class="dsq-item-trackback">Trackback URL&nbsp;&nbsp;<input class="dsq-trackback-url" onclick="this.select()" readonly="true" value="' + trackback_url + '"></div>';

		if(trackbacks.length) {
			html += '<ul id="dsq-references">'
			for(var i = 0; i < trackbacks.length; i++) {
				var trackback = trackbacks[i];
				html += '<li><cite><a href="' + trackback.author_url + '" rel="nofollow">' + trackback.author_name + '</a></cite> \
						<p class="dsq-meta">' + trackback.date + '</p> \
						<p class="dsq-content">' + trackback.excerpt + '</p></li>';
			}
			html += '</ul>';
			html = '<h3 class="dsq-h3-trackbacks">Trackbacks</h3>' + html;
		}

		return html;
	}

	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		/* Reaction HTML begins */
		var item = '<li class="dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-header-avatar">';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'">';
		} else {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="#" onclick="return false;">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {
			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar32.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png"/>'
			+ '</a></div>'
			+ '<cite><span>' + reaction.author_name + '</span></cite>'
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"><a class="dsq-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</a></span>'
			+ '</div><div class="dsq-reaction-body">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-footer">From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
			+ 'via <a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? 'BackType' : 'UberVU') + '</a>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator ? '&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;<a class="dsq-hide-reaction" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + '); return false;">Hide</a>' : '') + '</div></div>';

		if(reaction.retweets) {
			var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
			if (num_retweets > 0) {
				item += '<div class="dsq-reaction-retweets">';
				if (num_retweets == 1) {
					item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
				} else {
					item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');

					item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
					var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 15) ? 15 : num_retweets;
					item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);

					if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
						item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
							+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
					}
				}
				item += '</div>';
			}
		}

		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this.missingPermissions = function() {
		return '	<p>Comments for this page are closed.</p>\n';
	};

	//
	// Post
	//

	this.prependPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="comment-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-comment-reply-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-header-avatar" id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
				<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
				? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '</a>'
			+ '</div> \
		';
	};

	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];

		return ''
			+ (_meta.author_is_moderator
				? '<img class="dsq-mod-star" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/bullet-star.png" title="Moderator" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"> \
				<a id="dsq-time-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-time" href="#comment-' + post_id + '" title="Permalink">' + _meta.date + '</a> \
			</span>';
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		return '';
	}

	this.postBody = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Deprecate flagging conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		return ''
			+ (_meta.edited
				? '<p class="dsq-editedtxt">(Edited by a moderator)</p>'
				: '')
			;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Use media should be conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed) { return ''; }

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
				<div id="dsq-points-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-likedtxt">'
				+ (_meta.points
					? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.'
					: '')
				+ '</div>'
				+ '<ul class="dsq-comment-options dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.votable
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first dsq-rate" id="dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id + '">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Like</a>'
						: 'You liked this.') + '</li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-report' + (!_meta.votable ? ' dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '"><a href="#" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">Report</a></li> \
				</ul> \
				<ul class="dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first"><a href="#" id="dsq-reply-link-' + post_id +'" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(this, ' + post_id +'); return false;">Reply</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<li id="dsq-edit-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-edit-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="' + (!_meta.can_reply ? 'dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-more-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-more-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'more\'); return false">More <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media
					? '<li id="dsq-media-el-' + post_id +'" style="display:none"><a id="dsq-media-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'media\'); return false">Use Media <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '</ul>'
				+ '<div id="dsq-reply-bar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar" style="display:none"> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-items-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-items"> \
						</div> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-auth-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-auth"> \
							 \
								 \
								 	<a href="#" class="dsq-help dsq-reply-req-opt" title="You are commenting as a Guest. You may choose to log into an existing DISQUS Profile, your Facebook, Twitter or OpenID account to comment on Scobleizer" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Optional:</a> \
								 \
								<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/dsq-favicon-16x16.png" alt="" /> \
								<a id="dsq-reply-login-' + post_id + '" href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:18348591" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">Login</a> \
								 \
									&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img class="fb_login_image" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/images/fbconnect/login-buttons/connect_light_small_short.gif" alt="Facebook Connect"/> \
									<a href="#" onclick="FB.Connect.requireSession(DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin); return false;">Connect</a> \
								 \
								&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/twitter-signin-icon.png" alt="" /> \
									<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false">Sign-in</a> \
								 \
								 \
							 \
						</div> \
					</div> \
					<div id="dsq-reply-' + post_id + '"></div> \
			</div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Iframes
	//

	this._makeAttributes = function(attributes) {
		// Makes a tag attributes string out of an object.
		// Caller is responsible for making sure nothing needs to be escaped.
		var result = [];
		for (key in attributes) {
			result.push(' ' + key + '="' + attributes[key] + '"');
		}
		result = result.join('');
		return result;
	};

	this._frameGeneric = function(base_url, params, attributes) {
		if(typeof(disqus_callback_params) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_callback_params = '';
		}

		var default_params = {
			// TODO: These should be moved to Dsq.jsonData.
			'f'				: 'scobleizer',
			't'				: 'obsolete_skills',
			// Do we need encodeURIComponent here?
			'ifrs'			: encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css),
			'to_redirect'	: encodeURIComponent(window.location),
			'cbp'			: disqus_callback_params,
			'ff'			: Dsq.Thread.ff,
			'fc'			: Dsq.Thread.fc,
			'ac'			: Dsq.Thread.ac,
			'default_text'	: disqus_default_text
		};

		base_url += '?' + (new Date()).getTime();
		// Add params to default_params.
		if(params) {
			for(var key in params) {
				if(params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					default_params[key] = encodeURIComponent(params[key]);
				}
			}
		}
		// Build querystring.
		for(var key in default_params) {
			if(default_params[key] && default_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				base_url += '&' + key + '=' + default_params[key];
			}
		}

		return [
			'<iframe marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" hspace="0" vspace="0" frameborder="0"',
			(' allowtransparency="true" src="' + base_url + '"'),
			this._makeAttributes(attributes),
			'</iframe>'].join('');
	};

	this.frameLogin = function(opt_attributes) {
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/login.html';
		var attributes = opt_attributes || {};
		attributes['class'] = 'dsq-post-login';

		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameReply = function(post_id, extra_params, attributes) {
		// Returns the HTML for a reply iframe. Called by Dsq.Iframes.setReplyIframeToContainer
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY;
		var params = {
			'def_email'		: disqus_def_email,
			'def_name'		: disqus_def_name
		};
		if(extra_params) {
			for(var key in extra_params) {
				if(extra_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					params[key] = extra_params[key];
				}
			}
		}
		if(_meta) {
			params['parent_post'] = post_id;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			params['per_page'] = disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			attributes['class'] += '-authenticated';
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameEdit = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/edit.html';
		var params = {
			'p' : post_id
		};
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, {'class': 'dsq-post-edit', 'name': 'dsq-edit_' + post_id + '-frame'});
	};

	//
	// Menus
	//

	this.menuMore = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: "Remove post" button should hide menu.
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')">Link</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Profile</a></li>'
	+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
		? '	<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>' + (_meta.email ? '<li class="dsq-admin-email">' + _meta.email + '</li>' : '')
		+ '	<li class="dsq-admin-ip">' + _meta.ip + '</li> \
			<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>'
		+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
			? ' <li class="dsq-admin-edit"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
			: '')
		+ ' <li class="dsq-remove"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Remove Comment</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-report-spam"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-block-user"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li>'
		: '');
	};

	this.menuMedia = function(post_id) {
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(this, ' + post_id + ', \'seesmic\'); return false;">Record video</a></li> \
		';
	};

	this.dropProfile = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};


		var menu = '<li class="dsq-drop-showlnk"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Expand &#8663;</a></li>';
		var pointsMessage = '';
		if (userData['registered']) {
			pointsMessage = 'with ' + userData['points'] + ' points (more points are better).';
		}

		if (userData['is_remote']) {
			var domain = userData['remote_domain_name'];
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' is a ' + domain + ' user ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
			menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-' + domain.toLowerCase() + '">' + domain + '</span></li>';
		} else if (userData['registered']) {
			if (userData['verified']) {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a verified commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span></li>';
			} else {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a registered, but unverified, commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span></li>';
			}
		} else {
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has not claimed this commenter profile." onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()"><span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span></li>';
		}

		menu += _includeServices();
		return menu;
	};

	//
	// Popups
	//

	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-top"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-body" class="clearfix"> \
				<div class="dsq-popup-body-padding"> \
					<div class="dsq-popup-header"> \
						<a class="dsq-close-link" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/modal-close.png" alt="" /></a>'
						+ content['header']
					+ '</div>'
					+ content['body']
					+ '<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
				</div> <!-- padding --> \
			</div> <!-- body --> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-bottom"></div> \
		</div> \
		';
	};

	this.popupProfile = function(user_key) {
		var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(user_key, null);
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var html = '';
			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == 0
					? '<h4>Connections</h4><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li> \
					<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" title="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" /> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>'
				+ (i+1 == userServices.length ? '</ul>' : '');
			}
			return html;
		};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<table> \
				<tr> \
					<td> \
						<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><img class="dsq-popup-profile-avatar" src="' + userData['avatar'] + '" alt="" /></a> \
					</td> \
					<td> \
						<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user"> \
							<h3>' + userData['display_name'] + '</h3> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats" id="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + user_key + '">Loading...</div> \
						</div> \
					</td> \
				</tr> \
			</table> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-state"> \
				This is a&nbsp;<span class="'
					+ (userData['registered']
						? (userData['verified']
							? ' dsq-badge-verified'
							: (userData['is_remote']
								? ' dsq-badge-' + userData['remote_domain_name'].toLowerCase()
								: ' dsq-badge-registered')
							)
							: ' dsq-badge-guest') + '">'
			+ (userData['registered']
				? (userData['verified']
					? 'Verified'
					: (userData['is_remote']
						 ? userData['remote_domain_name']
						 : 'Registered')
					)
				: 'Guest')
			+ '</span>&nbsp;commenter profile.'
			+ '&nbsp;<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><strong>View more comments </strong></a>'
			+ (!userData['points']
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice">If this is you, <a href="http://disqus.com/profile" target="_blank">claim it now</a> to manage your comments.</p>'
				: '')
			+ ((userData['registered'] && !userData['verified'] && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username == userData['username'])) && !userData['is_remote'])
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice"><strong>Alert</strong>: You have not verified this account. <a href="http://disqus.com/verify">Verify it now.</a></p>'
				: '')
			+ '</div> \
			<div id="dsq-profile-status-' + user_key + '" class="dsq-popup-profile-status" style="display:none"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-snapshot"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td> \
							<div id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Most active sites</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
						<td>'
							+ _includeServices()
							+ '<div id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Moderator of</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupReblog = function() {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<cite><span>Reblog this comment</span></cite> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div id="dsq-reblog-form" class="dsq-reblog-form"> \
			</div> \
		';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupModal = function(title, message) {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<h3>' + title + '</h3> \
		';

		bodyHtml = message;

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.alertContent = function(name, post_id) {
		var alert = {
			'post_not_approved': {
				'title': 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator',
				'message': 'Thanks for posting. Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.'
			},
			'post_has_profile': {
				'title': 'Use your existing commenter profile',
				'message': 'You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> commenter profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a>'
			}
		};
		return alert[name] || false;
	};

	//
	// Actions
	//

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {
		// Update number of points
		Dsq.$('dsq-points-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.';

		// Update link text
		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.';
		}
	};

	this.subscribed = function(status) {
		var title, message;

		if(status) {
			title = 'Subscribed!';
			message = 'You have subscribed to this comment thread. New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox, where you may read and respond by email.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">Unsubscribe</a> \
			';
		} else {
			title = 'Unsubscribed';
			message = 'You have unsubscribed to this comment thread. New comments will no longer be sent to your email inbox.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a> \
			';
		}

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);

	};
	
	this.highlighted = function() {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('This comment has been highlighted.', 'Highlighted comment');
	};

	//
	// Media
	//

	this.mediaSeesmic = function(id, thumb) {
		return ' \
			<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_preview" class="dsq-seesmic-preview"><a href="http://www.seesmic.com/video/' + id + '" target="_blank" class="see_link">&nbsp;</a> \
				<div style="display:block;width:160px; height:120px; border:none; background-image:url(http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/' + thumb + ')"> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_hide" class="seePlayOverlay" style="display:none;"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',false)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/stopOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_show" class="seePlayOverlay"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',true)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/playOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; border:none; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			<div id="' + id + '_content" style="display:block; width:100%; padding-top:5px"></div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Callbacks
	//

	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(parent_post_id) {
		// Increment post count
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');
		
		if (num_posts) { 
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) { 
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
	};
};
// Dsq.Templates


/**
 * Dsq.Post
 */
Dsq.Post = new function() {
	this.openedMenu = {};
	this.menuEventListener = null;
	this.stateReplyToggled = {};
	this.stateEditToggled = {};
	this.stateRecordLink = {};

	/**
	 * Inserts a new post into the document.
	 *
	 * @param after_id {Number}	Insert a post before specified id.  If after_id
	 *							evaluates to false, then post in the front.  If
	 *							after_id is -1, post at the end.
	 */
	this.insert = function(after_id, id, message, author) {
		// Skeleton template from thread_posts.html.
		var skeleton = ' \
			<li id="dsq-comment-%(id)s"> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-header-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-header"> \
					<cite id="dsq-cite-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-cite"> \
						<a id="dsq-author-user-%(id)s" href="%(author_url)s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">%(author_name)s</a> \
					</cite> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-body-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-body"> \
					<div id="dsq-comment-message-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-message">%(message)s</div> \
				</div> \
			</li> \
		';
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var _user_meta = Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key];
		var markup = Dsq.Utils.interpolate(skeleton, {
			id: id,
			message: message,
			author_url: _user_meta.blog,
			author_name: _user_meta.display_name
		});
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		markup = markup.replace(Dsq.COMMENTS_RE, Dsq.CommentsHandler);
		div.innerHTML = markup;

		if (after_id === -1) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').appendChild(div);
		} else if (!after_id) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').insertBefore(div, Dsq.$('dsq-comments').firstChild);
		} else if (Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + after_id)) {
			// Get next node after "after_id", so we can insert before it.
			// If "after_id" is the last comment, the target node is the
			// last node.
			
			// var append_post_id = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(after_id).replace('<div id="','').replace('"></div>', '');
			var append_post_id = 'dsq-append-post-' + after_id;
			var node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			while (node = node.nextSibling) {
				if (!node || node.nodeType == 1) { // 1 == Node.ELEMENT_NODE
					break;
				}
			}
			if (!node) {
				node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			}
			node.parentNode.insertBefore(div, node);
		}
	};

	this.incrementPostCount = function() {
		
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');

		if (num_posts) {
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) {
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
	}
	
	this.outlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className += ' dsq-comment-outline';
		setTimeout("(function () { Dsq.Post.clearOutlineComment(" + post_id + ") })()", 3000);
	};
	
	this.clearOutlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className.replace('dsq-comment-outline', '');
	};

	this.showMenu = function(el, id, name) {
		var anchorPos = Dsq.Utils.findPos(el);
		var menu = document.createElement('ul');

		if(this.openedMenu) {
			if(this.openedMenu.linkClicked) {
				this.openedMenu.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		switch(name) {
			case 'more':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMore(id);
				break;
			case 'media':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMedia(id);
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}

		// Add menu to document body
		menu.id = 'dsq-menu-' + id;
		menu.className = 'dsq-menu';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(menu);

		// Position and show
		anchorPos[1] += 15;
		menu.style.left = anchorPos[0] + 'px';
		menu.style.top = anchorPos[1] + 'px';
		menu.style.display = 'block';

		// Set global reference
		this.openedMenu = {
			'el' : menu,
			'id' : id,
			'name' : name,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};

		// Set listener
		this.menuEventListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._hideMenu);
	};

	this._hideMenu = function(e) {
		var el = e.target || e.srcElement;
		var openedMenu = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el;
		var id = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.id;

		if(!id) {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link';
		} else {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link-' + id;
		}

		if(!openedMenu) {
			return;
		}

		if(!Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, openedMenu.id)) {
			openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Post.menuEventListener);
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(openedMenu);

		} else {
			// Hide the menu if a link was clicked inside the menu.  We can't
			// completely remove the menu until the onclick event on the link
			// fires, but the menuEventListener will prevent multiple menus
			// from polluting the DOM.
			if(el && typeof el.href != 'undefined') {
				openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el = null;
			}
		}

		if(Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Post.openedMenu.linkClicked = true;
		}
	};


	this.getUserServices = function(user_key, id) {
		if(!user_key && id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
			user_key = _meta.user_key;
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var userServices = [];

		// Keep a full list of supported services. This is the order they will display in the drop-profile.
		// Each service must have a corresponding case in _buildServiceUrl()
		var supportedServices = ['blog', 'twitter', 'facebook', 'tumblr'];

		function _buildServiceUrl(serviceName) {
			var data = userData[serviceName];
			var services = {
				blog:		function(d) { return d; },
				twitter:	function(d) { return d; },
				facebook:	function(d) { return d; },
				tumblr:		function(d) { return 'http://' + d + '.tumblr.com'; }
			};
			return services[serviceName](data);
		}

		for(var i = 0; i < supportedServices.length; i++) {
			if(userData[supportedServices[i]]) {
				var serviceUrl = _buildServiceUrl(supportedServices[i]);
				userServices.push({'name' : supportedServices[i], 'url' : serviceUrl});
			}
		}
		return userServices;
	}

	this.dropProfile = function(id) {
		var dp = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-profile-' + id);

		// IE6 needs JS to display/hide. All other browsers use CSS.
		if(dp) {
			if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) dp.style.display = (dp.style.display == 'inline') ? 'none' : 'inline';
			return false;
		} else {
			dp = document.createElement('ul');
		}

		dp.id = 'dsq-drop-profile-' + id;
		dp.className = 'dsq-drop-profile';

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) { dp.style.display = 'inline'; }

		var container = Dsq.$('dsq-header-avatar-' + id);
		dp.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.dropProfile(id);
		container.appendChild(dp);
	};

	this.dropProfileMore = function(el, id) {
		var hiddenItems = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-hidden-' + id);

		hiddenItems.style.display = 'inline';
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
	};

	this._updateReplyLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "reply / cancel" links based on state.
		var displayDict = {};

		if(id) {
			if(this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				el.innerHTML = 'Cancel';
				displayDict['media'] = 'inline';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'none';
			} else {
				el.innerHTML = 'Reply';
				displayDict['media'] = 'none';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'inline';
			}
		}

		for(var key in displayDict) {
			if(displayDict.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var	linkEl = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-el-' + id),
					spacer = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-spacer-' + id);

				if(linkEl) {
					linkEl.style.display = displayDict[key];
					if(spacer) spacer.style.display = displayDict[key];
				}
			}
		}
	};

	this._updateMediaLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "use media / cancel" links based on state.
		var appendId = (id) ? ('-' + id) : '';
		var link = Dsq.$('dsq-media-link' + appendId);

		if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			link.innerHTML = 'Cancel Media';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(link, id); return false; };
		} else {
			link.innerHTML = 'Use Media <small>&#9660;</small>';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.showMenu(link, id, 'media'); return false; };
		}
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(el, id) {
		// Create reply IFrame
		if (window.disqus_use_postmessage) {
			if (!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				// Create IFrame if it doesn't exist.
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-frame-' + id), id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].init();
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].setState(id, _meta.depth);
				}
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
			}
		} else {
			// DEPRECATED
			if(!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				// Reply toolbar
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id), id);
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Iframes.hideAllInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id));
				if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
					// HACK: Cancel media before canceling self.
					this.toggleMediaReply(Dsq.$('dsq-media-link-' + id), id);
				}
			}
		}

		this.stateReplyToggled[id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[id];
		this._updateReplyLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-reply-' + id); }

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[id]
		});
	};

	this.toggleMediaReply = function(el, id, xtype) {
		id = id || 0;
		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(!this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id, {xtype:xtype}, 'dsq-post-video');
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id);
		}
		this.stateRecordLink[id] = !this.stateRecordLink[id];
		this._updateMediaLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};

	this.edit = function(el, id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.frameEdit(id);
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-comment-message-' + id); }
	};

    this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
                Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
            }

            Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/vote.js'
                + '?post_id='    + id
                + '&vote='        + vote);

		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login(Dsq.Strings.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN);
		}
    };

	this.report = function(id, confirmed) {
		if(confirmed) {
			Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/obsolete_skills/post_report/', {'post_id': id});
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Thank you. This comment has been flagged for moderator attention.', 'Successfully flagged');
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$('dsq-post-report-' + id));
		} else {
			var title = Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT;
			var message = Dsq.Strings.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR + '? \
			<br /><br /> \
			<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.NO + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.NEVER_MIND + '</button>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + id + ', true);"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.YES + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT + '</button><br /><br />'
			+ Dsq.Strings.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION + '. \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, id);
		}
	};



	this.showAlert = function(id, msg) {
		var msgEl = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id);
		var alert = '<div class="dsq-comment-alert">' + msg + '</div>';

		msgEl.innerHTML = alert + msgEl.innerHTML;
	};

};
// Dsq.Post


/**
 * Dsq.Thread
 */
Dsq.Thread = new function() {
	this.fc = null;
	this.ff = null;
	this.ac = null;

	
	this.adminIsOn = false;

	
	
	

	this.hlComment = null;
	this.hlCommentClass = null;

	this.getNextComment = function(el) {
		var start_id = el.id;
		while(el = el.nextSibling) {
			if(el.id && el.id.indexOf('dsq-comment-') != -1 && el.id != start_id) {
				return el;
			}
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.getActiveCommentId = function() {
		if (document.URL.indexOf('#comment-') >= 0) {
			var anchor = document.URL.slice(document.URL.indexOf('#') + 1);
			return anchor.replace('comment-', '');
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.highlightAnchor = function() {
		var i = this.getActiveCommentId();
		if (i == null) return false;
		var id = 'dsq-comment-' + i;
		var hash = window.location.hash;

		// Toggle the hash incase the comment isn't available when the page loads
		// for WebKit-based browsers.
		if (Dsq.Utils.webkit) {
			window.location.hash = '';
			window.location.hash = hash;
		}

		this.hlComment = Dsq.$(id);
		// Adding this conditional guard pending #289
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlCommentClass = this.hlComment.className;
		this.hlComment.className += ' dsq-hl-anchor';

		setTimeout("Dsq.Thread.highlightClear()", 3000);
	};

	this.highlightClear = function() {
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlComment.className = this.hlCommentClass;
	};

	this.login = function(toggle) {
		// toggle id is #dsq-reply-login-[id]
		var postId;
		if(toggle.id.indexOf('dsq-reply-login') != -1) {
			postId = toggle.id.slice(16);
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + postId);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(toggle) {
			if(toggle.className == 'dsq-login-active') {
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(container, postId);
				toggle.className = '';
			} else {
				Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
				toggle.className = 'dsq-login-active';
			}
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
		}

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};


	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked, per_page) {
		// Use extra_params to pass any override parameters that we need to persist.
		var extra_params = '';

		// "Per page" can either be overriden by providing it as an argument
		// (per-call) or setting the disqus_per_page override variable (global).
		if(typeof per_page == 'undefined') {
			per_page = null;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined' && per_page === null) {
			per_page = disqus_per_page;
		}

		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}
		if(per_page !== null) {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + per_page;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			el_clicked.style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'obsolete_skills'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};

	this.sortBy = function(sort) {
		var disqus_script = document.createElement('script');
		var disqus_date = new Date();

		if (location.hash != '') {
			location.hash = '#disqus_thread';
		}

		if(typeof(disqus_url) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_url = disqus_href;
		}
		disqus_script.type = 'text/javascript';
		disqus_script.src = 'http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'obsolete_skills'
			+ '&sort='	+ sort
			+ '&title='
			+ '&'		+ disqus_date.getTime();

		Dsq.$('dsq-comments').innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif">';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(disqus_script);
	};

	this.subscribe = function(status, email) {
		// `status` is an int -- 1 to subscribe, 0 to unsubscribe
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || email) {
			// If authenticated user OR anonymous email provided

			if(email) {
				Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
			}

			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/subscribe.js'
				+'?status=' 	+ status
				+ '&slug='		+ 'obsolete_skills'
				+ '&email=' 	+ encodeURIComponent(email));

		} else if(!email) {
			// If anonymous user and no email has been provided yet, prompt for email

			var title = 'Subscribe to this comment thread';
			var message = ' \
				New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox! \
				<div class="dsq-subscribe-submit"> \
					<p><strong>Enter your email address below.</strong></p> \
					<input type="text" id="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
					<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1, Dsq.$(\'dsq-subscribe-email\').value)">Subscribe</button> \
				</div> \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
		}
	};

	this.showSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return;
		}

		/* The form has to be re-designed when more options will come out. */
		var html = 'Automatically close comments after <input size="3" id="dsq-thread-days-alive" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.days_alive + '" type="text" /> days. Existing comments will still be displayed.<br /><br />(Using 0 days will disable this feature)<br /><br />'
								 + '<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.updateDaysAlive();" class="dsq-button-small"><span>Save</span></button>'
								 + '<span id="dsq-thread-settings-status" class="dsq-options-status"></span>';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Settings');
	};

  this.showModeratorActions = function() {
      if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
          return;
      }

      var html = '<div class="dsq-moderate-options"><table><tr>' +
                 '<td>' + Dsq.Strings.ACTIONS + '</td><td><ul>';
      html += '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.toggleClosed(); return false;">' +
              (Dsq.jsonData.thread.closed ? Dsq.Strings.OPEN_THREAD : Dsq.Strings.CLOSE_THREAD) +
              '</a></li>';
      html += '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.toggleKilled(); return false;">' +
              (Dsq.jsonData.thread.killed ? Dsq.Strings.RESTORE_THREAD : Dsq.Strings.REMOVE_THREAD) +
              '</a></li>';
      html += '</ul></td></tr></table></div>' +
              '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate-threads/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
      Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, Dsq.Strings.MODERATE_OPTIONS);
  };

	this.updateDaysAlive = function() {
		  var days = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-days-alive').value;
		  var status = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-settings-status');
		  Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/update_days_alive.js', {days:days,thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
		  status.innerHTML = 'Saved!';
		  window.setTimeout(function() { status.innerHTML = ''; }, 1000);
	};

  this.toggleClosed = function() {
      Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/toggle_thread_closed.js', {thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
      window.setTimeout(function() { window.location.reload(); }, 500);
  };

  this.toggleKilled = function() {
      Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/toggle_thread_killed.js', {thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
      window.setTimeout(function() { window.location.reload(); }, 500);
  };
};
// Dsq.Thread

Dsq.Events = function() {
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var handlers = {};
	var getHandlers = function(event) {
		if (handlers[event] === undefined) {
			handlers[event] = [];
		}
		return handlers[event];
	};

	// Public
	// Value keys : postId, node, xtype
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED = 1;
	// Value keys : postId, opened
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED = 2;
	obj.fire = function(event, opt_value) {
		if (!event) {
			throw new Error('Unknown event');
		}
		var value = opt_value || {};
		for (var i=0; i<getHandlers(event).length; i++) {
			getHandlers(event)[i](value);
		}
	};
	obj.addHandler = function(event, callback) {
		getHandlers(event).push(callback);
	};

	return obj;
}();

/**
 * Dsq.Realtime
 */
Dsq.Realtime = new function() {
	var initialized = false;
	var interval = null;
	var last_checked = Dsq.jsonData.request.timestamp;
	var new_posts = [];
	var ongoing_request = false;
	var prev_script = null;

	function updateNewPostCount() {
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-alert').style.display = new_posts.length ? 'block' : 'none';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-queued').innerHTML = new_posts.length
		+ ' new '
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, 'comment', 'comments')
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, ' was', ' were')
		+ ' just posted.';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.SHOW + ')';
	}

	function insertNewPosts() {
		var post_id = null;
		var after_id = Dsq.$('dsq-sort-select').value === 'oldest' ? -1 : null;

		for (var i=0; i<new_posts.length; i++) {
			post_id = new_posts[i];
			Dsq.Post.insert(after_id, post_id, Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id].message);
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		}
		new_posts = [];
	}

	this.enableInterval = function() {
		interval = setInterval(Dsq.Realtime.check, Dsq.jsonData.context.realtime_speed);
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.ENABLED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.PAUSE + ')';
	}

	this.disableInterval = function() {
		if (interval) {
			clearInterval(interval);
			interval = null;
		}
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.PAUSED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.RESUME + ')';
	}

	this.toggleInterval = function() {
		if (!interval) {
			Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
		} else {
			Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
		}
		return false;
	}

	this.initialize = function() {
		if (!initialized) {
			initialized = true;
			Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').onclick = this.toggleInterval;
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').onclick = this.show;
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
			if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.realtime_paused) {
				Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
			} else {
				Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
			}
		}
	}

	this.show = function() {
		insertNewPosts();
		updateNewPostCount();
		return false;
	}

	this.check = function() {
		if (!ongoing_request && Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			if (prev_script) {
				prev_script.parentNode.removeChild(prev_script);
			}
			ongoing_request = true;
			prev_script = Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/18348591/realtime.js?timestamp=' + last_checked);
		}
	};

	this.update = function(timestamp, posts, users) {
		ongoing_request = false;
		last_checked = timestamp;

		if (users) {
			for (var user_id in users) {
				if (users.hasOwnProperty(user_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id] = users[user_id];
					}
				}
			}
		}

		if (posts) {
			for (var post_id in posts) {
				if (posts.hasOwnProperty(post_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] = posts[post_id];
						new_posts.push(post_id);
					}
				}
			}

			if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				insertNewPosts();
			} else {
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
		}
	};

}();

// DEPRECATED
Dsq.Iframes = function() {
	// Different style of object from the above. Hoping to switch to this for some reason.
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var showIframeInContainer = function(container, id, markup) {
		// Look through container for iframes, hiding them, except show one that matches id
		// If none of them matched id, create a new iframe using markup and insert it.
		// Returns the iframe node if and only if it was newly created.
		var found = false;
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				if (child.id == id) {
					child.style.display = 'block';
					found = true;
				} else {
					child.style.display = 'none';
				}
			}
		}
		if (found) {
			return;
		}
		// The iframe wasn't found, so construct it and add it to the container.
		// Don't use innerHTML because it might reload iframes
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		div.innerHTML = markup;
		var iframe = div.childNodes[0];
		div.removeChild(iframe);
		container.appendChild(iframe);
		return iframe;
	};

	// Public
	obj.makeReplyIframeId = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var id = 'dsq-post-add-iframe';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			id += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			id += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return id;
	};
	obj.makeLoginIframeId = function(opt_postId) {
		if (!opt_postId) {
			return 'dsq-login-iframe';
		}
		return 'dsq-login-iframe-' + opt_postId;
	};
	obj.makeReplyIframeName = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var name = 'dsq-reply-frame';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			name += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			name += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return name;
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId, opt_extraParams, opt_className) {
		// Construct the id so we can check if it's already present.
		// Hide any other iframes we find, and show this one if it's found.
		var params = opt_extraParams || {};
		// use xtype in the id and name so we can distinguish media replies from text replies:
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeId(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var name = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeName(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var attributes = {
			'id': id,
			'name': name,
			'class': opt_className || 'dsq-post-reply'
			};
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameReply(opt_postId, opt_extraParams, attributes);
		var iframe = showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
		// It was newly created
		if (iframe) {
			Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED, {
				postId: opt_postId,
				node: iframe,
				xtype: params.xtype
			});
		}
	};
	obj.showLoginIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId) {
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeLoginIframeId(opt_postId);
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: id});
		showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed = function(container, opt_postId) {
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			obj.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, opt_postId);
		} else {
			obj.hideAllInContainer(container);
		}
	};
	obj.hideAllInContainer = function(container) {
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				child.style.display = 'none';
			}
		}
	};

	return obj;
}();

Dsq.Twitter = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.startTwitterConnect = function() {
		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=400';
		that._twitterWindow = window.open(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/twitter/begin/', 'twitterWindow', popupParams);
		that._twitterInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeTwitterConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeTwitterConnect = function() {
		if (that._twitterWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._twitterInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.Yahoo = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.startYahooConnect = function() {
		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=400';
		that._yahooWindow = window.open(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/yahoo/begin/', 'yahooWindow', popupParams);
		that._yahooInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeYahooConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeYahooConnect = function() {
		if (that._yahooWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._yahooInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.OpenID = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.requestURL = function() {
		var message = '<table class="dsq-openid-form"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;" rowspan="2"><img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url + '/images/openid-icon-100x100.png" /></td>';
		message += '<td><label for="dsq-openid-url">OpenID URL:</label></td><td><input type="text" id="dsq-openid-url" /></td></tr>';
		message += '<tr><td><label for="dsq-openid-username">Display name:</label></td><td><input type="text" id="dsq-openid-username" /></td></tr>';
		message += '<tr><td class="dsq-openid-submit" colspan="3"><input type="button" value="Sign in" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.startConnect();" /></td></tr>';
		message += "</table>";

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sign in using OpenID');
	};

	this.startConnect = function() {
		var isblank = function(str) {
			return /^\s*$/.test(str);
		};

		var openid_url = Dsq.$('dsq-openid-url').value;
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-openid-username').value;

		if (isblank(openid_url)) {
			return;
		}

		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=500';
		var url = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/openid/begin/' + '?url=' + encodeURIComponent(openid_url) + '&username=' + encodeURIComponent(username);
		that._openidWindow = window.open(url, 'openidWindow', popupParams);
		that._openidInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeConnect = function() {
		if (that._openidWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._openidInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.Reaction = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.hide = function(id) {
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/hidereaction.js?' + 'reaction_id=' + id);
	};

	this.reportMissingReactions = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled) {
			return;
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.queued) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Your report has been received. The system will automatically search for new reactions; if any are found, they will be displayed on this comment thread.<br/><br/>Thank&nbsp;you.',
												 'Reported missing reactions');
			return;
		}

		Dsq.Utils.execScript(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/forums/scobleizer/queueurl.js');
	};
};

Dsq.CNN = function() {
	var obj = {};

	obj.authenticate = function() {
		var url = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + "/saml/cnn/try/";
		Dsq.Utils.postToUrl(url, {'target': document.location}, true);
	};

	return obj;
}();


if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
	(function() {
		DSQ_HEADER_AVATAR_RE = /<div class="dsq-header-avatar"(.*?)>/gim;
		Dsq.Templates.registerFilter('postPrependHeader', function(html, post_id) {
			// Add "onmouseout" for dsq-header-avatar for dropProfile
			// functionality since IE6 cannot use :hover.
			function _headerAvatarReplace(content, inner, _unused, html) {
				return '<div class="dsq-header-avatar" '
					+ inner
					+ ' onmouseout="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')">';
			}
			html = html.replace(DSQ_HEADER_AVATAR_RE, _headerAvatarReplace);
			return html;
		});
	})();
}





	// TODO: Move Seesmic code outside of the main script.  Don't let this script clobber the global namespace.
	if(typeof seesmic == 'undefined') { var seesmic = {}; }
	seesmic.widget = new function () {
		this.callback = function (data) {
			playerVersion = data.disqusplayer;
		};
	};

	
	var scriptEl = document.createElement('script');
	scriptEl.setAttribute('type', 'text/javascript');
	scriptEl.setAttribute('src', 'http://seesmic.com/version.js?callback=seesmic.widget.callback');
	document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(scriptEl);

	
	var scriptEl = document.createElement('script');
	scriptEl.setAttribute('type', 'text/javascript');
	scriptEl.setAttribute('src', 'http://media.disqus.com/javascript/library/swfobject.js');
	document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(scriptEl);

	function see_play_video(_videoUri, _add) {
		var swf = !!playerVersion ? playerVersion : 'http://seesmic.com/embeds/StandalonePlayer.swf';

		flashcontentDiv = Dsq.$(_videoUri + '_content');
		previewDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-seesmic-' + _videoUri + '_preview');
		hideDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-seesmic-' + _videoUri + '_hide');
		showDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-seesmic-' + _videoUri + '_show');
		if(_add) {
			// push flash widget
			var so = new SWFObject(swf, 'sotester', '300', '270', '9', '#000000');
			so.addVariable('video', _videoUri);
			so.addParam('allowFullScreen', 'true');
			so.addParam('allowScriptAccess','always');
			so.useExpressInstall('swfobject/expressinstall.swf');
			so.write(_videoUri + '_content');

			previewDiv.style.display = 'none';
			hideDiv.style.display = 'block';
			showDiv.style.display = 'none';
		}
		else {
			flashcontentDiv.innerHTML = '';
			previewDiv.style.display = 'block';
			hideDiv.style.display = 'none';
			showDiv.style.display = 'block';
		}
	};





(function() {
	//
	// Load theme.  This overrides the base templates with template functions
	// from the respective themes.
	//
	if (Dsq.jsonData.integration.theme == 4) {
		var theme = 'narcissus';
		// HACK: Set variable on window to use post message.
		window.disqus_use_postmessage = true;

		
		for(var prop in Dsq.Themes[theme]) {
			if(Dsq.Themes[theme] && Dsq.Themes[theme].hasOwnProperty(prop)) {
				Dsq.Templates[prop] = Dsq.Themes[theme][prop];
			}
		}
		
		for(var prop in Dsq.Post) {
			if(Dsq.Themes[theme] && Dsq.Themes[theme].hasOwnProperty(prop)) {
				Dsq.Post[prop] = Dsq.Themes[theme][prop];
			}
		}
	}

	//
	// Register templates.  This must be done after all themes are loaded.
	//
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('authPost', Dsq.Templates.authPost);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('header', Dsq.Templates.header);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('footer', Dsq.Templates.footer);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('trackbacks', Dsq.Templates.trackbacks);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('reactions', Dsq.Templates.reactions);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('prependPost', Dsq.Templates.prependPost);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('appendPost', Dsq.Templates.appendPost);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postPrependHeader', Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postAppendHeader', Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('preBody', Dsq.Templates.preBody);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postBody', Dsq.Templates.postBody);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postFooter', Dsq.Templates.postFooter);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('_popupGeneric', Dsq.Templates._popupGeneric);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('voted', Dsq.Templates.voted);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('popupProfile', Dsq.Templates.popupProfile);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postBox', Dsq.Templates.postBox);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('pagination', Dsq.Templates.pagination);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postComment_onSuccess', Dsq.Templates.postComment_onSuccess);

})();

Dsq.container.className = "clearfix";
Dsq.container.innerHTML = ' \
<ul id="dsq-comments">\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700925">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700925" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700925" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700925" href="http://iamerror.blog.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Reid</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700925" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700925" class="dsq-comment-message">RE: No. 2<br><br><br>I work in the Hifi industry in the UK, and we\'re currently selling turntables over CD players around 2:1. Also, i run an indie label, and like most others, we primarily press to vinyl...</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700922">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700922" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700922" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700922" href="http://equinox-of-insanity.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Nima</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700922" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700922" class="dsq-comment-message">OMFG! "Using a slide rule"? You are soooooo old, dude. ;-)</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700923">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700923" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700923" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700923" href="http://www.barrettmanor.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Julie</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700923" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700923" class="dsq-comment-message">And here I am sifting through negatives today.<br><br>Actually, rabbit ears have made a bit of a comeback. I know people who use them to pick up OTA HDTV signals.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700924">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700924" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700924" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700924" href="http://www.barrettmanor.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Julie</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700924" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700924" class="dsq-comment-message">Reid @1: I still buy vinyl. I still have something capable of playing 78 RPM records.<br><br>I am older than dirt.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700919">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700919" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700919" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700919" href="http://occonline.ca/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Les</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700919" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700919" class="dsq-comment-message">Here\'s one I don\'t miss....feeding the tape that got eaten back into cassettes &amp; VHS tapes!</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700920">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700920" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700920" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700920" href="http://readthisblog.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">David Singer</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700920" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700920" class="dsq-comment-message">Using correction fluid.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700921" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700921" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700921" href="http://www.c-note.dk/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Casper</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700921" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700921" class="dsq-comment-message">I still have records which I listen to, and I\'ve been to places where they still had rotary phones.<br><br>But I do not miss carbon paper.<br><br>Strangely enough I am actually thinking about getting a film camera again, as b/w photos are not really cutting it when it comes to digital photos.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700917" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700917" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700917">MJC</span>\
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	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700917" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700917" class="dsq-comment-message">Watching my HD DVD movies...</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700918" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700918" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700918" href="http://web2.0japan.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Rob</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700918" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700918" class="dsq-comment-message">Editing movies with a cutter knife and glue?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700916" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700916" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700916" href="http://www.barrettmanor.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Julie</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700916" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700916" class="dsq-comment-message">David Singer @6: Students still use those pens with correction fluid. I\'ve lost track of the number my kid has gone through.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700914" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700914" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700914" href="http://www.louisgray.com/live/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Louis Gray</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700914" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700914" class="dsq-comment-message">Using Windows.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700915" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700915" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700915" href="http://readthisblog.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">David Singer</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700915" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700915" class="dsq-comment-message">@7 Julie:  Pens with correction fluid?  That\'s after my time -- I was thinking of stencil correction fluid for mimeos, or Wite-Out in the bottle, both of which I hope are obsolete.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700838" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700838" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700838">Dan</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700838" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700838" class="dsq-comment-message">Shorthand is still alive and well in the medical community.  Especially with those of us who do mental health work where we try not to take notes in front of the client.<br><br>Rewinding VHS tapes, man that sucked...</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700825" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700825" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700825" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700825" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700825" class="dsq-comment-message">Louis: oh, let\'s not go there. Even if you\'re an Apple fan you have plenty of obsolete skills. Anyone remember Extension Manager on OS 6?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700824" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700824" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700824">srikanth</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700824" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700824" class="dsq-comment-message">Using carbon paper to make copies.<br>Developing film/photos.<br>Adjusting the rabbit ears on your TV set<br><br>are not dead for me.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700815">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700815" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700815" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700815" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700815" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700815" class="dsq-comment-message">srikanth: that\'s too bad. They are things I\'m not looking to ever do again.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700816" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700816" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700816">Chris Chan</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700816" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700816" class="dsq-comment-message">What about just formating a floppy disk on your computer.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700817" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700817" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700817">Karim</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700817" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700817" class="dsq-comment-message">Skills long dead:<br><br>- making a deer fat poultice<br>- vending spirits of turpentine as a medicament<br>- making change in shillings and pence<br>- playing whist<br><br>Skills recently dead:<br><br>- adjusting the ignition point gap in a distributor<br>- adjusting a television\'s horizontal and vertical holds<br>- operating an IBM 029 key punch<br>- syntax of HIMEM.SYS, EMM386.EXE<br>- making an answering 2400 baud modem think I am a calling modem by whistling at the correct frequency<br><br>Skills soon to be dead:<br><br>- talking to people on a "telephone"<br>- cooking food from "scratch"<br>- filling up a car with "gasoline"<br>- speaking any language other than English</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700818" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700818" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700818" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700818" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700818" class="dsq-comment-message">Chris: or using paper punch cards on a computer. Or, as I used to on an Apple II, use a cassette tape to load up your computer.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700819" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700819" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700819" href="http://www.hoyty.com/hoytyweblog" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Brian Hoyt</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700819" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700819" class="dsq-comment-message">Hand crafting config.sys and autoexec.bat to get things to run in DOS, especially games.  Building floppy based boot disks for OS installs.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700820" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700820" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700820">Karim</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700820" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700820" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>Editing movies with a cutter knife and glue?</i><br><br>Good one.  Don\'t you look forward to the day when the child in the back of the class raises their hand and asks why are the menu items called "Cut" and "Paste?"</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700821" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700821" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700821">Oh yeah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700821" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700821" class="dsq-comment-message">And even as tedious as some of these are...I miss pretty much all of them.  Give me the good ol days...and penicillin.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700822" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700822" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700822" href="http://bradkellett.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Brad Kellett</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700822" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700822" class="dsq-comment-message">Just registered <a href="http://ObsoleteSkills.com" rel="nofollow">ObsoleteSkills.com</a>. Sure a Wiki is the best idea? I\'ll get it set up today, bit of a laugh.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700814" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700814" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700814">Tankko</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700814" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700814" class="dsq-comment-message">Developing film and printing photos is far from obsolete.  Digital cameras can not match large format film, and that is widely used for large photos.  Far from dead.  This is a very shortsighted list.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700799" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700799" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700799" href="http://obfuscation.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">todd</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700799" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700799" class="dsq-comment-message">Great idea on the wiki... I took a look at the domain name, but unfortunately someone has "encumbered" it by querying through network solutions.<br><br>Full rant here: <a href="http://obfuscation.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/the-evil-still-lurks/" rel="nofollow">http://obfuscation.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/the...</a></div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700798">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700798" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700798" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700798" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700798" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700798" class="dsq-comment-message">Tankko: from what my pro photographer friends tell me you\'re wrong. Hasselblad already has a 25 megapixel camera and it\'s hardly the highest resolution ones. I\'m interviewing some really killer photographers soon and we\'ll take that issue more on then.<br><br>But for most people anyway this is definitely an obsolete skill.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700773">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700773" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700773" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700773">tom Barta</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700773" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700773" class="dsq-comment-message">"- speaking any language other than English"<br><br>Depends whether you want to talk to a) your landscaper b) the Chinese or Saudi guy who just bought your company.<br><br>Obsolete skills:<br><br>--filling in paper bank deposits slips.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700772" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700772" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700772" href="http://billkosloskymd.typepad.com/wirelessdoc/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Bill Koslosky</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700772" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700772" class="dsq-comment-message">While the "skills" (I don\'t know if dialing a rotary phone is really a skill) or actions may be obsolete, how long will it take for language to change? We still talk about CC: (carbon copy) even when we e-mail a copy to someone. And how can you say a cell phone "rings"?<br><br>And for photography, how much longer will we be comparing digital sensors to the size of a 35mm film frame? What happens when DSLR sensors become larger than this, will we call them *super* full frame cameras?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700771">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700771" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700771" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700771" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700771" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700771" class="dsq-comment-message">Bill: digital sensors are already bigger than the size of a 35mm film frame. I\'ve seen several digital medium format cameras lately.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700839" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700839" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700839">Jason Aller</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700839" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700839" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://obsoleteskills.wikispot.org" rel="nofollow">http://obsoleteskills.wikispot.org</a> is up. I\'ll try to get some templates going.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700840" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700840" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700840">Wreck</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700840" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700840" class="dsq-comment-message">@18,<br><br>Way off on a couple of counts.<br><br>Cooking from scratch will never die. It\'s actually coming back into fashion in a major way. There are more and more cooking shows as a testament to this. Only this generation eats everything out of a microwave-frendly bag. Cooking is a skill.<br><br>The US has millions and millions of Spanish-speaking people, more every year, illegal or not. Spanish is growing by leaps and bounds. In my state, it\'s an official language, and in some cities, almost everything is in Spanish. By 2050, whites will be a minority in the US, with hispanics the majority. Go read up on it. Americans are having fewer and fewer children. The Spanish are having more and more. English may be the language of business, but only a handful of countries speak it officially: Australia, Philippines, Canada, US, the UK/Ireland, South Africa, Liberia, India, and a couple of others. Most countries speak French, Spanish, Chinese, or Portugese as their dominant language. Most of Africa was either French or Portuguese or Dutch at one point. Interestingly enough, Portuguese is spoken by like a quarter of the world\'s population. There are over a dozen African countries where it\'s the dominant language, Brazil, Macau, Portugal itself and in a few other places. Chinese, French, and Spanish make up the rest. English is spoken by the vast minority of peoples.<br><br>Scoble,<br><br>as far as rotary phones are concerned, I always take the option on phone calls and pretend I have a rotary phone. I always get someone on within a few seconds rather than go through the push button hell and automaton voices.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700899" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700899" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700899" href="http://randyandgerri.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Randy</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700899" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700899" class="dsq-comment-message">Sometimes I think people on the East/West coast forget there is a lot of people inbetween those two coasts and they might not always be as "advanced" as some of us.<br><br>I personally know people who have or do many of the things you listed above.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700844" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700844" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700844" href="http://www.ThomasHan.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Thomas Han</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700844" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700844" class="dsq-comment-message">Add this to the list<br><br>- having a decent conversation with people in person and w/o checking one\'s cell phone</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700843" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700843" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700843" href="http://obsoleteskills.wikispot.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jason Aller</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700843" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700843" class="dsq-comment-message">A Wiki has been set up at <a href="http://obsoleteskills.wikispot.org" rel="nofollow">obsoleteskills.wikispot.org</a>, feel free to visit and share your knowledge and skills.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700841">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700841" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700841" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700841" href="http://www.qwertyrash.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">ChrisH</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700841" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700841" class="dsq-comment-message">- Learning Morse code, although not for most folks, in the olden days everyone knew the Morse code for SOS.<br>- Knowing how to write a telegram<br>- Darning socks</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700842">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700842" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700842" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700842" href="http://hephaestionaz.livejournal.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Tom</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700842" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700842" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'ve never done 8 of those things.  I\'m only 25!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700835" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700835" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700835">Wreck</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700835" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700835" class="dsq-comment-message">@33,<br><br>Amen. Face-to-face communication is dying rapidly. People now use craigslist or any other numerous services to meet rather than just meet in meatspace.<br><br>I for one hate phone conversations unless there is no other way. I don\'t really like email, either.<br><br>Whatever happened to hooking up the old-fashioned way? Yes, the net can "facilitate" these things, but if I\'m going to meet a yound lady for dating/romance, I\'m want to meet her while at church, shopping, at a restaurant, the library (yes, the library. they are still useful), sports games, etc.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700834" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700834" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700834">Wreck</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700834" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700834" class="dsq-comment-message">er, I meant @34</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700831" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700831" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700831" class="dsq-comment-message">Wreck: I totally disagree. Heck, this post happened because of face-to-face conv.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700832" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700832" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700832">Chris Hajer</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700832" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700832" class="dsq-comment-message">- Making an exclamation mark on your manual typewriter by typing a period then backspacing and typing a single quote over it<br><br>- As a cashier, making change without having to punch the amount tendered into the cash register (i.e. MATH)<br><br>- Lead bodywork<br><br>- Writing a letter in cursive<br><br>- Courting<br><br>- Bagging groceries in a paper bag<br><br>- Listening<br><br>- Using your turn signal<br><br>- Merging in traffic</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700830" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700830" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700830">Chris Hajer</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700830" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700830" class="dsq-comment-message">I guess some of those are just nostalgic rather than "pretty much useless."</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700829" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700829" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700829">Wreck</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700829" class="dsq-comment-message">Robert,<br><br>You\'re missing the point in a way.<br><br>What I\'m lamenting is the fact that in many ways, the Internet and cellphones are "replacing" REAL face-to-face convos. People no longer leave their homes to talk with their friends as much as they used to; they do it over some device. I disagree with this. In my circle of friends, we conduct everything in meatspace. All planning is done the same way. We use the phone or email only to say we cannot make it for some reason.<br><br>It\'s a shame people cannot meet each other at the mall (or wherever) anymore. We use proxies like online dating. Whatever happened to networking with people in the flesh? Hanging out at the mall? Chatting up the cute blonde at the cash register? There are whole studies done that show people are less and less interested in meeting people face-to-face for first dates or initial meetings. Sad.<br><br>I, for, one, miss the late 70s/early 80s when everything was done in the real. Hell, I\'d rather be in the 50s if the truth be known.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700828">Neal</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700828" class="dsq-comment-message">More recently dead skills:<br><br>- Long division.<br>- Looking up a word in the dictionary.<br>- Looking up a phone number in the phone book.<br>- Finding a street on a map by finding the name in the list and then using the grid coords (like C4-6).<br>- WordPerfect.<br>- Lotus 1-2-3.<br>- Addressing an envelope and putting a stamp on it.<br>- Writing a check.<br><br>More skills soon to be dead:<br><br>- Knowing the times tables.<br>- Knowing how to borrow during subtraction.<br>- using the shift key to make upper-case letters.<br>- Spelling. or shud i say "teh speling".<br>- Navigating the yahoo directory.<br>- Questioning authority.<br>- Voting.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700826" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700826" href="http://www.qwertyrash.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">ChrisH</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700826" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700826" class="dsq-comment-message">milking a cow by hand</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700823" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700823" href="http://www.jakeludington.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jake Ludington</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700823" class="dsq-comment-message">Putting a needle on a vinyl record is most definitely not obsolete and according to a recent WSJ article is actually on the rise.<br><br>Seattle record label <a href="http://www.controlgroupco.com/tcg.html" rel="nofollow">The Control Group</a> specializes in putting out vinyl for NEW albums by bands like The Killers and Kings of Leon. They also handle vinyl output for other labels that no longer deal in vinyl.<br><br>In several musical genres, vinyl is still widely released and highly collectable.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700769" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700769">ken</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700769" class="dsq-comment-message">Driving stick. (Disclaimer: I drive stick, and I think it\'s way more fun, and has a bunch of other advantages, but I have a feeling that by 2015, it\'ll basically be impossible to buy a new car with a standard.  If better automatics don\'t kill them outright, hybrids and electrics will.)<br><br>Other already-useless car skills: Cranking your engine with a hand crank.  Three on the Tree.  Double clutching.  Pumping your (non-ABS) brakes.  Rolling up a window with a crank.  Reaching across to unlock the passenger-side door.  Hand signals (even though we\'re still required to know them).<br><br>Sharpening wooden pencils.  (I think my grandfather is the last one in my family to do it well with a knife, and the way things are going, I think I may be the last to do it with a pencil sharpener, even.)<br><br>Sharpening a knive with a sharpening stone.  (Everybody has those "just stick the blade in the slot" jobs now.)<br><br>Converting units by hand.  Using log tables.<br><br>The dewey decimal system.  (My elementary school had the only library I\'ve ever seen that uses it.  Everybody else uses Library of Congress.)<br><br>The British system of measures?  Eh, well, I can dream.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700911" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700911" href="http://doknir.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">doknir</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700911" class="dsq-comment-message">Hello!<br><br>Here is a nice vintage USB phone:<br><br><a href="http://www.retrothing.com/2007/01/misguided_techn.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.retrothing.com/2007/01/misguided_tec...</a><br><br>Cheers, ROman</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700910" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700910" href="http://home.greywulf.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">greywulf</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700910" class="dsq-comment-message">That\'s a heart-wrenching list, Robert. It fair pulls at the nostalia strings.<br><br>I\'ve added my addenda here: <a href="http://wiki.greywulf.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl/LupusGris/ObsoleteSkills" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.greywulf.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl/LupusG...</a></div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700849" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700849" href="http://gwhiz.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Gerald Buckley</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700849" class="dsq-comment-message">@Wreck (#32)... actually, cooking from scratch is on the decline. A recent "Progressive Grocer" article noted 2007 was the first year better than 50% of all dining was done "out".<br><br>Cooking from scratch is on the decline in the US no matter how badly all the cooking shows want it to the contrary. It\'s a great way for the consumer packaged goods manufacturers to get their products in front of you (since the newspaper\'s circulation... you know the one you no longer take... is in the tank)</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700905" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700905" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700905">suzemuse</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700905" class="dsq-comment-message">I actually tried to dial a rotary phone the other day, just for fun. There are obsolete skills, and then there are things you just forget how to do. It took me at least 4 attempts to dial the right number.<br><br>I never did really learn how to do long division properly so I\'m not sad to see that go.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700904" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700904" href="http://causticdave.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Caustic Dave</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700904" class="dsq-comment-message">Using a Mimeograph machine.<br><br>I remember the smell these made in my first school.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700902" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700902" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700902">mesbillets</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700902" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700902" class="dsq-comment-message">Saaad list. Am I nostalgic?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700912" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700912" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700912">Loretta Donovan</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700912" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700912" class="dsq-comment-message">Using a paper template underneath typing paper to estimate the spacing for footnotes (this was grueling) in term papers.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700913" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700913">Loretta Donovan</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700913" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700913" class="dsq-comment-message">Laying out newsletters by gluing down lines of type ordered from a print shop</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700850" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700850">Wreck</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700850" class="dsq-comment-message">@44,<br><br>I don\'t think many of the skills you listed are dying.<br><br>Any school that does not teach loads of math, including long division, is doing the kids a disservice. Kids should be well versed in math by an early age. By 8th or 9th grade, they should already be well versed in trig, calculus, advanced algebra, geometry. American schools are far behind their european and asian counterparts.<br><br>Learning how to read a paper map is essential. What happend if that precious GPS system dies for whatever reason. Knowing how to use a compass and a map should be a required skill. It\'s easy to learn and remember. I learned land navigation in the military and it\'s come in handy many times. Knowing how to shoot an azimuth and reverse azimuth has saved many a camper and hiker, even in recent times. People rely too much on technology.<br><br>American kids are among the least educated in the 1st world when it comes to math and the sciences. The scandinavians and europeans in general, along with the asians, consistently score leaps and bounds above American students in math and sciences. Math in the US is looked upon as a requirement to graduate, not as the science it is. Kids are taught only enough the graduate in most cases. There are exceptions to this, but they are few and far between.<br><br>Want proof? Go ask the average person where Guatemala is on a map, or even Israel. Ask these same people who Galileo or Kepler were, let alone Archimedes. Ask geeks where "moveable type" comes from and they\'ll probably tell you about the blogging company rather than the Chinese and German history behind it. Sad. So much for moving the US forward. Kids are less concerned with learning and more caught up with IM, blogging, and the net in general. While these can be useful and fun, a well-rounded education includes math, science, astronomy, home economics, athletics, art, literature, writing, reading, debate, law, experiments (theory and proofs). I see very little real education in American schools. Language aside, you take an American in, say, 10th grade, and language barriers aside, and drop him in, say, Finland, they would be hopelessly behind. What we are learning in the 10th or 11th grade, they learned in what we call 7th grade. Sad for us.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700786">Wreck</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700786" class="dsq-comment-message">@48,<br><br>I think people are lazy at best. The vast majority of the world still cooks from scratch. The microwave has been the death knell to good, home-based meals. People would rather nuke their dinner than take time to make a meal and spend time with the family.<br><br>There is no reason families cannot enjoy cooking together and have family time at the table. The lion\'s share of the planet\'s people remain focused on the family and meals. Tell a Greek to nuke their food and they\'ll look at you like you\'re nuts. Same goes for the Chinese. Even the richest Chinese and Japanese still largely prepare steamed rice and veggies/meat/fish on a daily basis.<br><br>The US has become nothing more than a shell of what it once was. This country was at its best in the 50s, all discoveries aside. Family means less and less to the average person now. Eating with family is declining in this country. Eat and go is the new mantra. Restaurants want you in and out as quickly as possible. Back in the day, restaurants wanted you to sit, take your time, eat, be merry. Now, they remind you by bringing you the bill (get out).<br><br>Ever been to Europe, especially France, Greece, Spain, Portugal, where they spend copious amounts of time at the table talking, eating, drinking. That\'s the ways it\'s supposed to be. Americans rush, rush, rush. There\'s no need for it. Our processed food has seen a rise in cancer, diabetes, and obesity.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700903" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700903" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700903" class="dsq-comment-message">Wreck: I totally disagree with your characterization of Europeans. I found they rush just as much as we do (I\'ve been in Europe three times in three months).<br><br>I\'m so glad, though, that they are starting to ban smoking. Damn, is that a disgusting habit and ruins people\'s dinners.<br><br>If Europeans are so smart how come it took so long to get a clue about that issue?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700794" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700794">Wreck</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700794" class="dsq-comment-message">Scoble,<br><br>Smoking is a nasty habit. I had it for years.<br><br>Smoking, while nasty, has no bearing on intelligence whatsoever. Yes, it\'s stupid. Yes, it\'s committing slow suicide, but there are, and have been, very intelligent smokers. That aside...<br><br>The reason the EU is cracking down on smoking with a renewed vengeance because of economics. What with socialized medicine being in virtually all EU nations, no one wants to pay for the mistakes or stupidity of others. I\'ve spoken with friends in the EU about this very topic.<br><br>It\'s true, however, that EU/Asian kids are far and away better educated than our own kids. There are exceptions, but like I said above, they are few and far between. Americans tend to look at education the wrong way.<br><br>For example, in the US, what with this "no child left behind" nonsene, a smart/gifted kid in a classroom (with exceptions), gets taught the same boring curriculum that his lesser-minded peers get taught. He stagnates and begins to dislike school. The US is largely opposed to "gifted" programs because they see them as unfair. I\'ve got friends that are teachers and school administrators. Schools receive little to no money for gifted programs, but, I learned, get about $10k per every child that has learning disabilities (special ed). Schools actually encourage teachers to pick out the special ed kids and get them enrolled in special ed. More money for the schools. Well, life can be unfair. Some people are actually smarter than others, and to not allow gifted students to get ahead is a crime. In the EU, if you are gifted, you go into a gifted program and move ahead at your own pace, kind of like the Montessori schools here in the US. Another disturbing trend in the US school system is to pull kids out of class for the slightest distruption and have them labelled "bi-polar" or ADD. Some states actually mandate that if chosen by a school to be tested for such things, and found to be "true", the child cannot return to school unless medicated. This is an evil practice. It\'s a proven fact, but often overlooked, that "bi-polar" or ADD kids are really just hyper, and interestingly enough, tend to be actually more intelligent. They get bored in class and tend to act out their boredom in negative ways. Put them in a gifted class and they would likely accel since they are not bored stiff with less-than-useful baseline curriculums.<br><br>Being gifted is nice, but not all of us are. But, the average US school teaches (and I use "teaches" loosely), uses an outdated curriculum model that imparts only the bare modicum of skills required to pass the state assessment exams. Critical thinking is not taught in the US like it is elsewhere, but you know full well that sports gets the largest budget in the school system. It\'s a proven fact that less than 1% of students go on to play professional sports. And we wonder why our kids can graduate without being able to find countries on a map. They can dunk a bball or play football, but they cannot use a semicolon properly or tell you the difference between an adjective and adverb. Ever notice that the minimal acceptable grade in most schools to play sports is a C average. It should be a B- at the very least. A C average encourages mediocrity.<br><br>Talk to an Indian, Chinese, or European. They are so far ahead of us in general education it\'s silly. I\'m ashamed to even talk with these people about American education. India is one of the poorest nations on earth, but man do they graduate some smart kids. China, too.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700800" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700800" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700800" class="dsq-comment-message">Wreck: I\'ll go further. I\'ve been to China and Europe. I agree with you that their education systems are ahead of ours in a lot of ways.<br><br>One interesting thing is that we keep importing smart people from around the world. Ask Loic Le Meur why he didn\'t stay in France, for instance.<br><br>Or my wife. Ask her why her parents sent her away to a foreign land from their home in Tehran.<br><br>And this trend continues to this day.<br><br>Yes, there are lots of smart smokers, but it does indicate some level of stupidness to pick up smoking in the past 20/30 years since every scientific study shows that\'s bad for you.<br><br>Plus it just plain stinks. It\'s amazingly rude to light up inside when other people who aren\'t smokers are around.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700801">Wreck</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700801" class="dsq-comment-message">Scoble,<br><br>I forgot to address one thing you brought up. You said Eropeans rush as much as Americans do. Remember, you were at a conference, hung out with geeks, that while from the EU and everywhere else, tend to have the same characteristics as all geeks: always moving, thinking, rushing around, never having enough time to do this or that.<br><br>I\'m talking about real, everyday people like farmers, office workers, etc. Not geeks. Europeans tend to move more slowly than we do. The Spanish have it right. Siestas should be mandatory. Go to any major city in Spain during the workweek and when siesta time comes, the city largely comes to a crawl. That\'s great. It\'s good for morale and the health. I also like the fact that the EU has a 35-hor work week (UK not included), a minimum of 6-8 weeks paid time off, socialized medicine, PATERNITY leave, even. The US should have all this.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700793" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700793" href="http://flacklife.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Bob LeDrew</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700793" class="dsq-comment-message">When I left university in the late 80s, I fell axx-backwards into doing freelance radio work for the CBC (Canada\'s NPR).<br><br>I started out using a Sony cassette recorder to do field work, then the big move -- the Walkman PRO! Wooow. But still, what we did back then was have our tape dubbed onto 1/4" tape, then we edited our clips with a razorblade and a yellow grease pencil, using splicing tape to hold stuff together.<br><br>I still do some work for CBC and some podcasting, but it isn\'t like that any more.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700797" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700797">Christopher Coulter</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700797" class="dsq-comment-message">Obsolete Celebrity Tech Blogger skills<br>--------------------------------------<br>Steady Camera Skills and Focusing<br>Fact-checking<br>Reading anything more than a summary<br>Researching the topic(s)<br>Calling up people who know the issue, to get a background<br>Using a source not from Wikipedia. Original souces, how time-wasting heady.<br>Doing independent verification of claims made by conference trade-show vendors.<br>Actually having a clue about anything</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700795">Jen Steer</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700795" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'ve used 8 of those skills in my life and I\'m just 22. I still use shorthand on occasion.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700796" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700796" href="http://canadada.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">canadada</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700796" class="dsq-comment-message">Gee, sounds to me like a lot a huff and puff here... what you REALLY seem to be talking about is MONEY, not \'obsolete\' and/or \'essence\' and/or smoking and/or EU educational standards etc .... Come on now - FOCUS BOYS !<br><br>\'Twill all be a bit of a non-issue when the lights go out and the \'power\' goes off anyway and SUDDENLY we gotta start doing EVERYTHING again by hand ... the TRAGEDY is that so few have a CLUE. Labour is not respected in America.<br><br>My old mum still uses a rotary phone, on principle, she REFUSES to pay the jacked-up rate for \'touch\'. And my pop often used a slide rule when woodworking. I personally REALLY like to cook - AND, o\'dear, I like to have an after dinner cigarette and do my very own huffing and puffing ... quel horror !<br><br>Guess I\'ll just have to bumble along and try to make the best of it anyway .... Coming? Or, are you gonna STAY in HERE FOREVER fellas???</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700792" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700792" href="http://www.ThomasHan.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Thomas Han</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700792" class="dsq-comment-message">Scoble, I just thought of another one to add<br><br>- Sending your colleagues stuff via the yellow inter-departmental envelopes.  Maybe the MacBook Air will bring those back</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700789" href="http://www.qwertyrash.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">chrisH</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700789" class="dsq-comment-message">@ken #47. Dewey decimal system is the norm in libraries here (Australia). I\'ve never seen any other system.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700790">ken</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700790" class="dsq-comment-message">#60: "Yes, [smoking is] committing slow suicide".<br><br>It\'s much worse than that.  Thanks to secondhand smoke, it\'s actually a really slow suicide *bomber*.<br><br>I don\'t know why more isn\'t being done to combat this ubiquitous terrorist threat.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700791">Ken</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700791" class="dsq-comment-message">Just guessing here, but I don\'t think going to Europe 3 times on business and spending your time in hotels, restaurants and conference halls gives anyone any insight whatsoever on what life is like in Europe.  Me thinks one might have to actually LIVE there for an extended period of time to form an intelligent opinion beyond: "Hey!,some restaurants have banned smoking!  They are making progress!"</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700787" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700787" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700787" class="dsq-comment-message">Ken: I\'ve been to Europe dozens of times in my life. The three trips is just in the past three months. My mom was born in Germany, many of my relatives still live there. My wife\'s brother lives in Wales. So, I have a pretty good insight into life there.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700788">Michael</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700788" class="dsq-comment-message">Yeah, the "putting the needle on a vinyl record" has been justifiably demonstrated to be a currently in-demand skill (in fact, it could be argued that anyone who dismisses vinyl as readily now as they did 10 years ago may be a bit out of touch with the music industry).<br><br>But I understand the reasoning for including it on the list - so you could get hits for another FC video. Good on ya for your slickness.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700785">Wreck</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700785" class="dsq-comment-message">@66,<br><br>Amen. When the lights do go out, the satellites fail, or we get hit with a big EMP, people with no old-skool skills are the ones going to be rioting for food and goods.<br><br>Skills that I consider mandatory, even today:<br><br>1) math with pencil and paper<br>2) hunting using various methods<br>3) fishing using various methods<br>4) start a fire with stuff from the forest or desert<br>5) land navigation, map reading, how to use a compass<br>6) self-defense using various methods<br>7) build an expedient shelter<br><br>I think Robert Heinlein puts it perfectly:<br><br>A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700784">Strat</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700784" class="dsq-comment-message">While I am a necrocomputing hobbyist (DECSYSTEM-20 in the garage and all that), I don\'t have to draw upon that to gainsay one item on your list.<br><br>Pilots of aircraft still use sliderules, usually called the E6B. Yes, there are battery powered calculators that do the same thing, but they don\'t fit around the bezel of a watch.<br><br>Oh yeah, we read paper maps too.<br><br>It\'s an odd industry. General aviation is only now coming around to such "novelties" as Full Authority Digital Engine Control. There are also more than a few carbureted engines still in service.<br><br>Even I have to admit that I prefer electronic ignition to magnetos, but there is a quaint and unmistakable reliability to that technology.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700827">Prokofy Neva</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700827" class="dsq-comment-message">My daughter recently asked me why I had all these "giant CDs" in the closet. They are old records. I finally decided it was time to throw out the record *player* at least because the needle was missing. I threw out the rotary phone, too. I kept the Stereopticon. There are certain things that will be antiques, collector\'s items, but I think not rotary phones from the 1990s.<br><br>You still have to know shorthand and use envelopes, stamps, and checks, however, because there are institutions and meetings where you can\'t take in a cell phone or laptop to the meeting and they don\'t have online payments yet.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700781" href="http://www.danielabarbosa.blogspot.cm/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">daniela barbosa</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700781" class="dsq-comment-message">My 80 year old grandparents in Portugal have a rotary phone. I was there for 3 weeks recently and it was driving me mad. When i first got there my cell phone\'s international plan wasn\'t working so i called AT&amp;T-of course i could not use the prompts to get to the right person, after a long time (a long distance call) on hold finally someone came on- when i told him i couldn\'t hit the prompts because i was on a rotary phone the guy goes- \'what is that?\' after explaining he probably though Portugal was a backwards country- i told him that my grandparents are just slow to change!<br><br>I have told them that it is not safe- if they have an emergency dialing a rotary phone is probably not the quickest way to get the ambulance to come. But she likes the way it looks (it is a nice old phone)!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700778" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700778" href="http://www.williamsportwebdeveloper.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert S. Robbins</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700778" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700778" class="dsq-comment-message">How about Visual J++, Windows 3.1, and Windows NT? I can\'t even sell my old books on that technology.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700776">Ken</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700776" class="dsq-comment-message">Other "skills::<br><br>Setting the station on a push button radio.<br>Checking the water level in the car battery<br>Using three buttons to adjust the color on the TV<br>Three button TV remote<br>Replacing tubes in the TV.<br>Watching music videos on MTV<br>Driving a manual column shifting transmission<br>Manually calculating change when using a cash register<br>Filling out a withdrawal slip to take cash out of your bank account<br>Dialing "O" and actually talking to an operator.<br>Dialing the number for the correct time<br>Understanding what to do about Global Cooling<br>"Danger, Will Robinson"<br>"Phasers on stun"<br>"To the Bat Cave!"<br>The code to silence the screeching sound of a modem<br>Sending a Telex<br>ride in a car without seat belts<br>sitting next to your \'boyfriend/girlfriend" on the bench seat in the front of your car.<br>Anticipating the cartoon before the movie<br>Eventually..Drive-In movies<br>putting in that insert in the 45 record<br>listening to the "B" side of a 45 record<br>Riding in the third seat of a station wagon facing out the back window<br>Playing "Pong"<br>How to format a 5.25 floppy disk<br>creating a batch file via edlin<br>Reel-to-Reel tape recorders<br>Look something up in an encyclopedia<br>How to really "steal" music (walk out of the store with a record"<br>To get "porn" you had to steal if from your older brother, or bribe some homeless person to buy it for you.<br>Using a TV Guide to see what was on TV.<br>Waiting ALL week for cartoons--only on Saturday mornings<br>Making popcorn by heating up oil in a pan an waiting for it to start popping</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700782" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700782" href="http://www.swift2.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Swift2</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700782" class="dsq-comment-message">handwriting. the nuns beat it into me, and I used to turn out quite a nice and legible chicken scratch. Now, because of the computer keyboard, when I try to write with a pen and paper, I\'ve actually forgotten how.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700783" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700783" href="http://geekswillsavetheworld.blogger.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Steve</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700783" class="dsq-comment-message">That\'s funny. A lot of the 20-somethings here in S.F. still use/buy records and at least one or two people I know use medium-format film cameras.<br><br>Also: a lot of young people still use MySpace instead of Facebook. Why? Every MySpace band lets you stream their music on your page, and you can customize the hell out of your page. Facebook is ugly and no one\'s profile looks interesting.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700780" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700780">twistedone151</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700780" class="dsq-comment-message">-Skill #1: used a rotary phone for a few years when growing up (thanks to being in rural Alaska).<br>-Skill #5: I own, and know how to use, a slide rule<br>I still use skill 10 regularly.<br>-Skill #8: My typewriter wasn\'t even electric.<br>-And I regularly use skills #9 and #10 even now (old television set, lousy reception, and no cable).<br><br>How about these:<br>-A slideshow with actual slides<br>-changing the ribbon head in a dot-matrix printer</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700777" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700777" href="http://hauntingthunder.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Maurice</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700777" class="dsq-comment-message">I think a lot of dj\'s and the audiophiles prefer Turntables for mixing.<br><br>And as the last generation that just about learned slide rules before switching to calculators - I must get a slid rule to keep on the desk to go with my RPN  HP Calculator  - though I believe that Pilots still use a special purpose slide rule.<br><br>Re Europe<br><br>Yes an no to the slower pace some areas  are still some what in the 70\'s (try getting Telephonica to fix a phone quickly in Spain) and its only France that has the 35hour work week though the non uk states do have more public holidays.<br><br>I used to work with some one who had managed peoplein SV and in the uk and he reckoned that in SV people spent a lot more time goofing off at the water cooler and taking long weekends to go skiing. That there was effectively no difference in the amount of work even with the 4-5 week holidays we had in BT vs 2 weeks in SV.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700774" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700774" href="http://perseq.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">David</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700774" class="dsq-comment-message">I think tolerating the Modem Howl is an obsolete skill. The same goes for fluency in modem configuration for a PPP client.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700775">Taco Jack</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700775" class="dsq-comment-message">How about fast-forwarding a cassette tape while holding the Play button down slightly to listen for the gaps between songs? With CDs and mp3s, this is definitely an obsolete skill.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700936" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700936" href="http://yamahito.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Tom Hillman</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700936" class="dsq-comment-message">We\'re still teaching shorthand to Journalists here at CJS in Cardiff (possibly the UK\'s most renowned journalism school).   Lecturers here could name plenty of big court cases that revolved around the use of shorthand.<br><br>As for film photography...  Shame on you, Mr. Scoble.  There are plenty of reasons that film photography will be with us for many many years, and not all of them are cold and rational :)</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700929" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700929">Chris Hajer</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700929" class="dsq-comment-message">How about *fixing stuff* instead of throwing it away and buying new?  That goes along with @75.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700930" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700930" href="http://forevervoyaging.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Mike Drips</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700930" class="dsq-comment-message">1. Using a DOS prompt.<br>2. Using an 8", 5.25", 3.5" floppy disk/drive.<br>3. Using a CRT monitor.<br>4. Being able to locate my shoes quickly.<br>5. Bathing at 4 AM before my now obsolete commute.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700935" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700935" href="http://canadada.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">canadada</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700935" class="dsq-comment-message">I get so sick of the SELF RIGHTEOUS. Every time you step on a jet and zoom off to destinations unknown for a \'visit\' you are spewing more toxic noxious \'obnoxious &amp; offensive\' TONS of crappola into the atmosphere than ANY itty bitty \'smoker\'. Get off your high horses and put away the whip. Smokers ae AWARE of their \'obsessive-compulsive addiction\'. Are YOU - high-end disposable gadget geeks?<br><br>Not everyone on the planet wants to live like you guys ... Peas are not pumpkins, horses are not bears ... Bio-diversity and individuality is essential for species survival.<br><br>And, for all of those of you who are somewhat cavalierly just \'throwing stuff\' out .... SHAME.<br>WHERE do you think all that extraneous JUNK goes?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700934" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700934" href="http://www.richardmuscat.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Richard Muscat</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700934" class="dsq-comment-message">What\'s a slide rule? hehe :-)</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700933">Wreck</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700933" class="dsq-comment-message">@87,<br><br>One of the problems with the western world in general is that we devloped a "throw-away" mentality. If it\'s broken, toss it out and acquire a new one.<br><br>I remember as a kid (I\'m 40 now) seeing quite a few TV and stereo repair shops. They\'re all gone. People don\'t repair stuff anymore -- they throw it out and make another trip to their local Best Buy or Fry\'s.<br><br>I know people who buy laptops and when anything breaks, they buy a new one.<br><br>I honestly do believe, though, that there is some planned obselescence in modern electronics, but not so much with older stuff.<br><br>My grandparents bought one of those huge Zenith console TVs back in the early 70s. It still works, but I replaced it with a modern flat panel because of the digital-only broadcasts coming up soon. Had it not been for this, they would still be using it. It was over thirty years old and still just fine.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700932" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700932" href="http://canadada.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">canadada</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700932" class="dsq-comment-message">Well, you know what the say about the \'original\' lightbulb ... obselescence was a deliberate \'marketing\' ploy.<br><br>Wreck, do you have a \'site\'? There\'s no \'link\' here.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700931">Wreck</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700931" class="dsq-comment-message">@89,<br><br>No site yet. I\'m toying with the idea of starting my own blog, but I haven\'t figured out what kind of angle I want to launch it from or who the audience might be.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700779" href="http://hauntingthunder.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Maurice</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700779" class="dsq-comment-message">You Could Add<br><br>Wireing a plug/Changing a fuse in a plug<br><br>Soldering your own rs232 leads - and the anoyance you felt when you reaised you hand\'t put the hoods on first :-)<br><br>I still think you can\'t be a real programmer with being able to use a soldering iron</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700928">Wreck</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700928" class="dsq-comment-message">I forgot to add that western peoples have this hangup with having the latest and greatest. For some people, it\'s a disease almost.<br><br>My last trip to the EU a couple of years ago really opened up my eyes to some things I was wondering about.<br><br>How does the average European live in terms of gadgets?<br><br>How do they see gadgets compared to Americans?<br><br>Well, I visited a few home while over there, people from all walks of life and people with a range of salaries. Not one -- NOT ONE -- had a big screen TV. They all had average sized TVs. None of them had more than one laptop or desktop computer. One family had two, but that\'s because the daughter was a student at university. Dad told me they would have never bought it otherwise.<br><br>Europeans love texting. They use it so much more than Americans do. There are phone plans in the EU that only offer texting. Everyone almost uses it. I hate it, but that\'s me.<br><br>I have a plain jane phone that does calls only. I need nothing else. I have no interest in being bothered unless required.<br><br>I personally know people who buy every iteration of Mac or other computer brand that comes out, and they wonder why they cannot afford to ever eat out once in a while. They also buy every stupid tech toy they see that they like. Computers should last at least 3 years, preferrably 5, but the hardware/software companies keep ugrading stuff forcing new hardware/software if you want to use the newest stuff. No thanks.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700926">Wreck</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700926" class="dsq-comment-message">@99,<br><br>I agree with your assessment of real programmers. The Steve Wozniaks are few and far between.<br><br>A good programmer should know things down to the machine level. They all used to back in the day, but now, if you can type, you can call yourself a programmer.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700927" href="http://www.travel.travel/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Heidi</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700927" class="dsq-comment-message">Love this topic!<br>How about opening the garage door manually, popping popcorn on the stove, tea in a kettle, looking in the newspaper for movie times at the cinema, buying a map instead of mapquesting directions,......<br>The list is endless.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700813" href="http://www.eavesconsulting.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chad</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700813" class="dsq-comment-message">Obsolete - IBM Lotus Notes &amp; Domino...at least not yet?</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700907">ken</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700907" class="dsq-comment-message">@75: I prefer Yamamoto Tsunetomo, who didn\'t hold back at all:<br><br>"A person who is said to be proficient at the arts is like a fool. Because of his foolishness in concerning himself with just one thing, he thinks of nothing else and thus becomes proficient. He is a worthless person."</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700906" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700906" href="http://canadada.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">canadada</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700906" class="dsq-comment-message">Wreck, pls let me know when you strike an angle ... Happy Huntin\'.<br><br>Setting up a blog is \'easy\', relatively speaking. I mean, it\'s not as though you have to CARVE something with the strength and finesse of your own BARE HANDS ....<br><br>You can keep a blog \'private\' until you\'re ready to \'launch\'. If unfamiliar with the basics it can be a rather steep \'learning curve\', [...methinks you do have programming under your belt...). It soon all becomes second nature. Part of the \'fun\' here is to \'jump in\' with others in the Wordpress community. Lots of  alternate p.o.v.\'s, some wise, some dull, some brilliant, some insipid. Generally there is something of \'interest\'.<br><br>Alternatively, give \'Stumbleupon.com\' a gander. Now that\'s REALLY a wacky fun invigorating and interesting ride ...<br><br>Then again, CARVING is a far more demanding, exacting, time consuming personal CREATION that challenges the ever-fluctuating balance between your hand, eye, mind and heart. The \'audience\' is limited, but the net result is something you can actually GIVE your grandchildren ....</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700890" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700890" href="http://ineedbobblog.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">bobk</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700890" class="dsq-comment-message">Umm, you call these "Skills"?<br>A skill is Carpentry.<br>A skill is Autorepair.<br>A skill is "a craft, trade, or job requiring manual dexterity or special training in which a person has competence and experience: the skill of cabinetmaking."<br><br>Using Carbon paper is NOT a skill.<br>Neither is adjusting your tv\'s antenna!</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700836" href="http://landnavigation.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jimmy D.</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700836" class="dsq-comment-message">The fact is many people every year get lost in the wilderness, due to their lack of knowledge in LAND NAVIGATION skills.   BUT, how does one improve on their LAND NAVIGATION skills.  There are outdoor wilderness navigators of various skill levels out there that can use these lessons, to improve their skills and introduce others (beginners and those unfamiliar) into the world of Land Navigation.<br>     The lessons are FREE to download, informative, and can be used to teach yourself and others in the knowledge of "LAND NAVIGATION with MAP and LENSATIC COMPASS".   WWW.LANDNAVIGATION.ORG<br>Very Respectfully,<br>Jimmy D.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700837" href="http://marybaum.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Mary Baum</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700837" class="dsq-comment-message">Technology-wise: Terminating SCSI cables and being worried about too many text boxes in a document in a page-layout program.<br><br>In general: Card catalogs at the library and paying 15 cents or more, each, for black-and-white copies.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700812" href="http://www.qwertyrash.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">chrisH</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700812" class="dsq-comment-message">Wreck, in Oz the government buys the big screen TVs for people! IT\'s called a baby bonus. The govt pays $5000 for each baby born. Many folks splash out and buy a big screen TV. Consequently down here, kids born in the last 5 years are  called the "plasma generation".<br><br>Re your blog, I think you\'ll do well. But it is hard to find your niche. Maybe start with something generic, just your thoughts and ramblings, and as canadada says you don\'t even have to make it public. Then thru that you might find what you want to write about.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700810">ken</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700810" class="dsq-comment-message">Bragging about your blood type.  (I\'m the last person in my family who was blood-typed at birth.  Apparently they stopped that in the early 80\'s.)</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700770" href="http://fasterfuture.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">David Cushman</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700770" class="dsq-comment-message">Shorthand obselete? Tell that to court reporters in the UK? I trained as a journalist 20 years ago and shorthand was the most useful skill I acquired. Still use it. Wish I\'d known it before I went to university (would have been a real help in lectures).<br>To be able to take notes that few others in the meeting can read can be very helpful, very often...</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700976">Leonora Forslund</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700976" class="dsq-comment-message">I live in Northern Vermont, and I\'m here to tell you that many of the obsolete things you listed are still alive and well here. I still write checks, make out deposit slips, use Windows and WordPerfect, correction tape when necessary. I even cook, sew, sing, and am able to put windshield wiper fluid in my car.<br>You people need to get a life. Sitting in front of a computer is nowhere.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700971" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700971" href="http://lowtechtimes.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">S.P. Gass</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700971" class="dsq-comment-message">Actually, several of those skills are still very useful to me today.  See website if interested.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700968">Wreck</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700968" class="dsq-comment-message">A lot of things people list as obsolete skills are not skills at all.<br><br>Writing checks is not a skill.<br>Dialing a phone is not a skill.<br>Watching TV and hooking up DVD player is not a skill.<br><br>Skills are learned and maintained. Woodworking is a skill. Being a mechanic is a skill. Hunting and fishing are skills. Living on the land is a skill. Riding horses is a skill. Using a map and compass are skills. Gardening well is a skill. Knowing what plants and animals to eat in the forest are skills.<br><br>Skills require training, whether formal or self-learned. They are something you master or come close to mastering, and only come with repetition and making mistakes.<br><br>Programming is a skill, but it\'s useful only in the context of having a computer. Life goes so far beyond tech. The vast majority of the world could care less about tech. They are too worried about eating and surviving.<br><br>We in the western world are blessed in that we have these technical things to make our lives easier and fun, but the real skills our children should be developing are not being addressed anymore. Some school systems don\'t even teach cursive anymore. Shame on them.<br><br>I can tell you that my kid will learn how to fish, hunt, shoot, clean animals, make a fire with only things found in nature, read a map and use a compass, cook, change a car tire, basic electricity (compute voltage, ohms, amp requirements), and a whole host of other useful things.<br><br>I was fortunate to have been raised in an area that values the old skills -- and still does. People here have computers, yet they see it as a tool, like a hammer. There is not an abundance of tech here.<br><br>I recall when living on the east coast, the power went out when I was at a doctor appointment. The entire place relied on computers and electricity. Since the doctor could not pull up my info on his laptop, I was forced to make another appointment, but I had to call in the next day to do so, because the receptionist couldn\'t log the new appointment in her computer. They couldn\'t even get their backup generator to work that day. I\'m glad this was a clinic and not a hospital with patients tied to life-saving machines like breathers and dialysis. Losers.<br><br>Oddly enough, the same thing happened after I moved back to the southwest. I was at the doctor with my kid when a thunderstorm overhead caused the power to go. The doctor had paper records and a flashlight. He was able to see my kid with no problems. He wrote a prescription on a paper chit and we left. I made a follow-up appointment with the receptionist before leaving. She did this using a paper calander for that particular doctor. Old school? Yes. Effective? You betcha!<br><br>We will one day regret our reliance on tech and it\'s going to sting mightily. Those people with the skills that the east and left coasties (and other big city dwellers) deride as being "old-skool" or "redneck" will serve well. They will eat, drink, and go about life fairly well, while their tech-reliant counterparts will be reduced to groveling for government handouts -- or worse, rioting in the streets to meet their basic reqirements.<br><br>When that happens, I\'ll be down at the river with a fishing pole catching bass or catfish or in the forest with a recurve bow perforating Bambie. We\'ll eat and drink well. Tivos, blogs, and the Java vs .NET arguments will be useless and forgotten.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700972">Personal Ensign</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700972" class="dsq-comment-message">Robert, congrats on a great thread. My contributions:<br><br>- Listening<br>- Having equity in a house<br>- Paper routes<br>- a federal balanced budget<br>- Carrying your clubs while playing a round of golf<br><br>btw, I must strongly disagree with your premise that Europeans "rush just as much as we do". I lived in Europe for 6 years. Dining out there is a wonderful, languid experience that can take 3-4 hours. Dining out in the U.S. is like being in fast forward, with those idiotic, blaring TVs mounted everywhere to ensure an actual conversation doesn\'t break out!</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700974" href="http://onqpl.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Paul Leroux</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700974" class="dsq-comment-message">Cutting out a little notch in a single-sided 5.25" diskette so that you can use both sides.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700973" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700973" class="dsq-comment-message">Personal Ensign: heheh, when I have a meal like that in Europe I chalk it up to poor service. I don\'t try to justify it to foreigners as a "feature." :-)<br><br>Seriously, you are eating in the wrong places in the United States. If you want to slow down and take three hours for a meal I know quite a few places to send you.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700975" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700975" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700975" class="dsq-comment-message">Wreck: funny enough, I have all those skills (my dad taught them to me). My son, Patrick\'s new step-dad is a guy just like you, by the way. So he\'s learning all those skills too.<br><br>The thing is that if there were some major disaster that took down our power and connectivity grids for weeks enough of us would self teach each other these skills that we\'d fish out every single lake and stream within a three day drive of the coasts. So, what will you do then? I guess eat dandelion leaves for a while. Wonderful world you conjure up in your head.<br><br>I sure hope I never need those skills again, but if I do they don\'t take more than a few hours to relearn (or teach to other people).<br><br>You also miss that I live walking distance to the ocean. So, as long as our fishing boats can go out to sea we\'ll have lots of food where I live. No skills needed other than something of value to trade for the food.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700962">Bryson</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700962" class="dsq-comment-message">I don\'t think anyone has mentioned Morse code as a lost skill.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700963">Wreck</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700963" class="dsq-comment-message">Scoble,<br><br>I\'m glad you have some good skills; most geeks don\'t.<br><br>I haven\'t conjured up any wonderful world in my head. It\'s called being prepared. I spent 7 years in the military. I learned to adapt, overcome, or die. No more, no less. I don\'t dwell on the possibility, but I\'ll be ready should it happen.<br><br>You have to remember the old adage, though. Give a man a fish and he\'ll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he\'ll eat for the rest of his life.<br><br>Scoble, running out of food will never be an issue. It\'s the coasts and big cities that will have issues with food, since 80% of the population lives on the coasts. Us "rednecks" in the middle of the country have far fewer worries. :) There are more cattle and fish here than humans by about 1000 times over. One benefit of living in the middle of nowhere is there are fewer mouths to feed.<br><br>Skills that you would need would have to be great ones:<br><br>- medical skills would be chief among them<br>- mechanic, ability to fix things right up there<br>- ability to actually sail a boat and fish<br>- ability to hunt<br>- self-defense<br>- ability to leave the coast and find a better life<br><br>Great little article on a basic survival kit that actually fits in an Altoid tin.<br><br>There are 19 slides to this...<br><br><a href="http://www.fieldandstream.com/fieldstream/photogallery/article/0%2C13355%2C1225788%2C00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fieldandstream.com/fieldstream/photo...</a></div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700960" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700960" href="http://canadada.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">canadada</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700960" class="dsq-comment-message">Are dames allowed to \'play\' survival too?<br><br>Or is it just back to barefoot in the kitchen for us wenches as we shake rattle &amp; roll them big ol\' pots and pans ???<br><br>I STILL think that most of this post is about MONEY, one way or the other, who\'s got it to \'throw it away\' - and who don\'t.<br><br>Happy Huntin fellas.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700959" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700959" href="http://soikasiprefecto.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Agustí</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700959" class="dsq-comment-message">I bought a pair of circular slide rules at CONCISE (Japan). This guys keep producing them and we (old weirds) keep buying and using them. So what?<br><br>If you are interested: <a href="http://www.concise.co.jp/eng0731/circle02.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.concise.co.jp/eng0731/circle02.html</a></div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700958" href="http://evansit.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jay</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700958" class="dsq-comment-message">Don\'t discount # 11 just yet. I have a 68 corvette stingray that I adjust the mixture on frequently. Anyone restoring old cars would use that skill. I don\'t know if you\'ve seen the auctions lately for restored cars, but they ain\'t cheap.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700957" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700957" href="http://evansit.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jay</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700957" class="dsq-comment-message">As for #10, I was at a biker\'s house one time and the only way we were able to see the channel was when his ol\' lady was holding the rabbit ears. So, he made her hold them while we watched TV. We brought her beer and passed the smoke to her. I guess she\'s out of a job now.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700956" href="http://evansit.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jay</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700956" class="dsq-comment-message">She\'d be good for #9 though......</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700955">JDB</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700955" class="dsq-comment-message">Man this is a short-sighted list... old things do not die that quickly.<br><br>I\'m 22 and have done many of the things on that particular list within the last 10 years, and I know others who have more often, too. Not quite sure that allows them to be considered "obsolete".<br><br>Don\'t court reporters still use shorthand? They did when I was a kid!<br><br>Response to other comments:<br>In my field (engineering) we have to know how to do everything on the fly... napkins are more useful than you think... mental math is required frequently. For tests, we\'re often not allowed to use calculators (one of my professors did let us use slide rules just for fun). All of Europe it seems writes ONLY in cursive... I write in cursive to write more quickly sometimes.<br><br>Anyways, many people are busy keeping up with the Joneses, but there are trade-offs involved with using any new technology, and many of us do not see a reason to switch from some old methods. Many times I\'ve found it\'s good I kept a "paper" copy in this digital age. And we all know how wonderful these new cars with all the electronics are to fix... but then, this is just an engineer talking, and we\'re known to be a strange minority in this nation.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700953" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700953" href="http://evansit.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jay</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700953" class="dsq-comment-message">How about Banyan Vines as an obsolete skill ?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700954" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700954" href="http://evansit.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jay</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700954" class="dsq-comment-message">or Windows NT 3.51 Print queue administrator</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700951" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700951" href="http://evansit.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jay</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700951" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700951" class="dsq-comment-message">I can\'t believe this thing lets me keep posting comments ! I\'ll stop now.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700967">israel</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700967" class="dsq-comment-message">sounds similar to one of the above:<br><br>using a floppy to boot up an apple IIe or one of those that have 8-in. screens...back in the early 90s</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700969">Wreck</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700969" class="dsq-comment-message">@121,<br><br>"Dames" as you put it are always welcome. :)<br><br>Women are just as intelligent as men, despite what some men like to think.<br><br>Women, however, still the hell out of me when they are behind the wheel. :)</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700970" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700970" href="http://snm.imeem.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Scott Manley</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700970" class="dsq-comment-message">Just because I work with digital media all day doesn\'t mean I don\'t still listen to music in vinyl.<br>In fact my 3 year old daughter is competent enough to use my vinyl collection needple drop and all.<br><br>The reason vinyl still wins for me is that it\'s an excellent user interface for manipulating music, none of this \'vinyl sounds warmer crap\' it\'s all about scratching and cutting.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700966" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700966" href="http://mcdevzone.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Mike Cohen</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700966" class="dsq-comment-message">I was without electricity for 10 days following Hurricane Wilma. We quickly learned to cook *everything* on a charcoal grill.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700949">Adriaan</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700949" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700949" class="dsq-comment-message">In my office I have the LARGE Faber Castell slide rule, used in tuition, mounted on one wall as well as an IBM golf ball typewriter, a single cylinder steam engine and my IBM systems design template.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700948">Pete Christy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700948" class="dsq-comment-message">Double de-clutching!<br><br>Operating a column shift gear change!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700947" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700947" href="http://bar.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">foo</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700947" class="dsq-comment-message">Developing Film/Fotos... nu-uh, not quite yet.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700946">Richard B</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700946" class="dsq-comment-message">Though I have high speed internet and can\'t live without it, I can live without television so I utilize the rabbit ear adjusting daily.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700945">JR</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700945" class="dsq-comment-message">I know how to operate all the hot-type equipment necessary to produce printed paper documents, like a Mergenthaler linotype, and I could take a pretty good swing at operating the photogravure end of the shop as well.<br><br>That\'s where you prepare to print photographs on paper without a computer, by shooting a line negative and using the resulting "xx dots per inch" negative to etch zinc plates using nitric acid.<br><br>I can also milk a cow or goat, although my experience is all with cows I\'ve seen others do goats and it looks pretty easy compared to a cow.<br><br>Butchering in the back yard, OK, gross but necessary if you farm and keep pigs or chickens.<br><br>Producing canned food from a garden in my kitchen?  Been there, like it OK.<br><br>Hex debugging, the worst bug I ever found was an unprintable character that occurred right where a decimal point should have been!!<br><br>I could go on, this is very interesting...  debugging electronics by turning off the lights and looking to see the dark tubes...</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700941" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700941" href="http://www.zomgzomgzomg.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">zomgzomgzomg</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700941" class="dsq-comment-message">Skills long overdue to be dead:<br>- Writing lameass blog articles</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700942">pete</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700942" class="dsq-comment-message">I have never seen such a small-minded, parochial, ego-centric group as you lot. Look at what you\'re writing: "X will be obsolete just because I don\'t do it".<br>Judging by a lot of the comments, a significant proportion of the posters can\'t differentiate a "skill" from an activity. For example, putting a needle on a vinyl record is not a skill, it\'s simply a mechanical action. Getting off the couch to change TV channels is another example.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700943" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700943" href="http://doggo.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">doggo</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700943" class="dsq-comment-message">I dunno, some of these don\'t exactly require "skill". Maybe obsolete "tasks"?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700944" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700944" href="http://www.ethereal.net/~magusxxx/anthology/main.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Scott Terpkosh</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700944" class="dsq-comment-message">What about all of the rituals related to superstitions which are no longer followed. For instance…<br><br>It was bad luck to light three cigarettes with one match. Even now, I have warned people about doing this with a lighter. The theory was that if you were in a foxhole the enemy had a better chance of seeing where you were the longer the match was lit.<br><br>Another good one is finding a penny on the ground with tails side up. Long considered to be bad luck, there was a way around the jinx. If you look and consciously read the date and mint mark you would be fine. But does anyone care nowaday? Nope. Now you\'re lucky to even find someone who\'ll take the time to pick up a penny.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700950" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700950" href="http://www.ncat.edu/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Bill Wood</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700950" class="dsq-comment-message">Mr. Scoble,<br><br>Just because you are a new tech geek, does not make these older technologies obsolete.<br><br>A true audiophile does vinyl.<br><br>A car hobbyist adjust carburetors.<br><br>Shorthand has morphed to typehand.<br><br>Plenty of writers still use a typewriter.<br><br>Older folks still need rabbit ears, or those who like living in the mountains or deep in the heart of the country. Of course, they are about to have the rabbit die with the Draconian Digital Directive.<br><br>And don\'t turn a blind eye to the rest of the world - most of it depends on older technology.<br><br>Next you will be telling me rolling dice is obsolete because of computer gaming; not me, I am a dedicated boardgamegeek!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700940" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700940">Stuart DeGraaf</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700940" class="dsq-comment-message">Obsolete skill #1: running WinDoze!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700939" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700939">KC</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700939" class="dsq-comment-message">#11. Lots of motorcycles still use carburetors and with fuel prices being up, people are digging out older 80s cars and firing them up. Also the high performance crowd still uses carburetors and in my experience can often get better mileage!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700809" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700809">Erik Winter</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700809" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700809" class="dsq-comment-message">After reading through the comments, it strikes me that many feel that "survival" and "tech" are mutually exclusive... This isn\'t the case and never has been.<br><br>Many of us tech "reliant" are truly just tech "fanatic." I sit in front of a PC for most of my waking hours for work and play. I also have to rebuild the master cylinder on my 1957 MGA 1500, weld a new bracket for the oil filled air cleaner on our 1960 Nash Metro, get on the roof to tighten the supports for the covered patio I built last spring (by myself, using rope and pulley) and head to the range to sight in my firearms... all of which I will do myself.<br><br>I will also occasionally light a smoke whilst performing many of these activities.<br><br>And vinyl is dead, I\'ve seen the same reports for 15 years about it making a comeback... yet you still have to go looking for LPs and a large majority of new wax is DJ music.<br><br>Learn to cook, learn to hunt/fish/farm, learn to keep an automobile running, and strive to always keep learning new things, including how to sync your mobile device. And write your grandmother a letter, she\'ll appreciate it.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700938" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700938">Scott F</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700938" class="dsq-comment-message">How about drilling a hole in the corner of a 720KB 3.5" floppy so it would hold 1.44MB?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700847" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700847">Bob</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700847" class="dsq-comment-message">How about:<br><br> - Paper data tape?  I could read it visually.<br><br> - Edge punched cards.<br><br> - Impact printers, especially the drum type.<br><br> - Magnetic data cards.  Looked like 80 column cards but were magnetic.<br><br> - Magna-see, a freon fluid with iron particles suspended that would attach to magnetic tape so you could see the blocks of data to see where there was an error.<br><br> - Pinch roller reel data tape drives with vacuum columns.  Man I spent alot of time cleaning those puppies.<br><br> - Oh yeah, wire punch board programming...card sorters...card intrepreters...yikes!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700833">Wreck</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700833" class="dsq-comment-message">@149,<br><br>Writing letters. THAT is a dying craft if there ever was one, at least in the western world.<br><br>My kid loves to get mail. I told her that if you want to get mail, you have to send mail. So, she colors/draws and what not, and we send it to "grannie" in the mail so she can get something in return.<br><br>The benefit of this is that you have something to keep and remember people by. Email is amorphous and ethereal, and while it can be printed out, has not the same meaning as a physical letter.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700858">Steve</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700858" class="dsq-comment-message">RS232 is alive and well :) high end Unix systems/routers/switches still use this technology and probably will for many more years. Certainly not obsolete. Although I had one sysadmin trying to figure out how to plug his serial cable into his video port on his laptop. Kept asking me where to find a serial male connector :P</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700859" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700859">Landon Knauss</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700859" class="dsq-comment-message">Circular slide rules are still used all the time. In aviation, my E6B flight computer is a circular slide rule and every student (at least in 1994) was required to buy and use one.<br><br>They don\'t use batteries so you don\'t have to worry about losing power to them during flight. They calculate fuel consumption, crosswind correction and much more. Very useful. Most people don\'t know they\'re actually slide rules.<br><br>I also have a rotary phone in the basement. :) Admittedly obsolete (I\'ve heard grumblings that pulse dialing is going away) but fun to use now and again -- I just like that purring sound.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700860">Steve</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700860" class="dsq-comment-message">Obsolete Skill - getting out of lazy boy to change tv channel with rotory switch and then fine tune it to the station</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700862">Nacho</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700862" class="dsq-comment-message">I think this list should be renamed "Obsolete skills for the Computer Geek".<br><br>So basically a bunch of computer geeks who have no social skills and who just sit in front of computers all day come up with a list of obsolete tasks that they would not (or know how to) do. Many of these tasks are performed on a regular basis by many people around the world. Remember there are still many more people who don\'t own, use or have even seen a computer in real life than there are people who do. So just because you don\'t do these things does not mean others don\'t.<br><br>Maybe you all should climb down from your ivory towers, get out in the sun, go meet and talk to people and figure out what is really going on in the world. You might like it.<br><br>Thanks!!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700863">Frank Blissett</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700863" class="dsq-comment-message">I can go the other way - skills so ubiquitous that what was once something to brag about is now common place.<br><br>Specificly, I\'m thinking of typing and shorthand. Used to be that they were taught in schools, and clssified ads would specify words per minute applicants could type.<br><br>A decade and a half later, it\'s taken for granted that most anyone can type fairly well. And informal shorthand is just as complex, if not more efficient, than formal versions.<br><br>-Frank Blissett</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700864" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700864" href="http://briank.glmotorsports.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Brian Knoblauch</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700864" class="dsq-comment-message">1) I still have and use a rotary dial phone.  :-)<br>2) I still have and use vinyl records, but my latest turntable does automatically load/unload the needle.<br>5) Pilots still use slide rules all the time (E6B flight computers!)<br>10) Rabbit ears...  Yep, still got \'em and still use \'em.<br>11) No carb on the car, but now we have electronic devices that you use the same way to tweak the fuel mixtures...  And of course, I *do* still manually adjust the carb\'d fuel mixture on the airplane.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700865" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700865" href="http://www.wordgoddess.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Rachel</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700865" class="dsq-comment-message">While I do regret learning the comptometer (see <a href="http://www2.cruzio.com/%7Evagabond/Models.html" rel="nofollow">http://www2.cruzio.com/~vagabond/Models.html</a>), it introduced me to machine shorthand, which, as it turned out, reinvented itself and is now used for real-time, high-level litigation work and live closed-captioning.  Formerly known as court reporters, real-timers and captioners are now in demand.  The US government is spending millions on training in this \'obsolete\' shorthand (see <a href="http://ncraonline.org/NewsInfo/MediaRoom/House+passes+Higher+Ed+Reauthorization+bill.htm" rel="nofollow">http://ncraonline.org/NewsInfo/MediaRoom/House+...</a>), for which my IBM Mag Card word processing skills still come in handy.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700866" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700866" href="http://litweblog.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Tim Bostelle</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700866" class="dsq-comment-message">Wrong...<br><br>I still develop and print film by hand.  In fact, a lot of professional photographers do.  Digital photography is nice and has many uses but nothing will ever replace film.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700867" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700867" href="http://www.slashdot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Wade</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700867" class="dsq-comment-message">I and many others still use carbon paper and the white equivalent tracing paper... It\'s a must for making copies on anything you can\'t print to, like wood to be carved, metal templates, transferring a design for airbrushing....</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700868" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700868">brianeisley</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700868" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700868" class="dsq-comment-message">Heh. I grew up with calculators (I\'m 39), but I still taught myself to use a slide rule. Great hobby for a math geek, and I still use it sometimes. You have to carry the decimal point in your head, but otherwise it\'s perfectly adequate for lots of things.<br><br>They landed on the moon with slide rules. They built the atom bomb with slide rules. The Golden Gate Bridge, Hoover Dam, the Empire State Building--all built with slide rules.<br><br>And they even built the first computers--wait for it--with slide rules!<br><br>So don\'t knock \'em. :-)</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700869" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700869" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700869">John</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700869" class="dsq-comment-message">Programming my mom\'s VCR to record soap operas, now THAT\'s obsolete.<br><br>I do still have a use for my carburetor adjusting skills, however. Fuel injection is still a fairly recent happening in the motorcycle world.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700870" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700870">Tyson</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700870" class="dsq-comment-message">11. Changing the gas mixture on your car’s carburetor.<br><br>I\'m sorry, this is necessarily true... Only the "true" enthusiasts will know this skill... but for the average joe non-racer will never understand air-fuel mixture ratios...</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700871" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700871" href="http://canadada.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">canadada</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700871" class="dsq-comment-message">@132. 154 - Wreck<br>Gee. Still at it ... this musta hit a NERVE.<br><br>Family men are good men. They\'ve stopped thinking about themselves, first and foremost, all the time.<br>Writing a real letter to your grandmother gets mega points.<br><br>Adapting is critical to survival. Choosing the right adaptation is also critical to survival. The car replaced the  horse. And what did it give us? Short term seeming convenience, freedom and POWER, but LONG TERM? Imagine America without them ... IMAGINE it. Consider the IMPACT socially, economically, environmentally, architecturally, spiritually. How would America look tomorrow without cars choking the life blood out of it? How OBSOLETE is that?<br><br>Women behind the wheel, by the way, ain\'t nothin\' compared to a drugged-out transport-truck driver careening down your backside ... The worst driving I\'ve ever experienced in my life was around Washington ... NO-ONE keeps their hands on the wheel or their eyes on the road - the drivers are too engaged with their gadgets - their GPS systems, Blackberrys, cellphones, coffee cups , Big Macs and subwoofer surround sounds system CD\'s - ETC. My back was broken in a car crash by such a  \'disengaged\' lunatic.<br><br>Give me a horse any day.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700872">Roach</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700872" class="dsq-comment-message">Motorcycles still have carburetors :) (Ok, well, SOME of them do ... mine does).<br><br>_R</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700873" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700873">panthan</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700873" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700873" class="dsq-comment-message">I still have a rotary phone.  About forty years old.  Works well.  Works when the power is out.  The cordless phone batteries eventually fail, every touch-tone phone gets crud in the keys and starts to stick and fail.  But that old ATT black slug just works.  Probably will until the phone companies just stop supporting pulse technology.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700874" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700874">Karrie</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700874" class="dsq-comment-message">Defrosting a refrigerator</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700875" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700875">phil</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700875" class="dsq-comment-message">still using rabbit ears!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700876" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700876">Joshua</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700876" class="dsq-comment-message">My wife is an educator, and I have been all over the world in the military. It is a common misconception that we Americans are behind other countries in education. In most European countries, they only test the brightest. In the UK for example, if you don\'t do well in high school you just don\'t go to college, you work at a factory or something like that. Everyone doesn\'t get the opportunities we do. When you compare our kid\'s test scores with European scores, you have to remember we\'re comparing Europe\'s best with our average. If it was our best we\'d be just as good as them. People put out stories about our test scores to make news. I\'m not saying our system\'s perfect, but we\'re not doomed. If we were, we would have been overtaken by the Soviets. We were afraid of their test scores decades ago too, and look where we are today.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700877" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700877">James</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700877" class="dsq-comment-message">Writing, Compiling and Running Computer programs using punch cards</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700878">cookie</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700878" class="dsq-comment-message">black boards</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700879" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700879">Wreck</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700879" class="dsq-comment-message">@158,<br><br>I like my car, but we would be better of without them in the long run.<br><br>I\'m still waiting for the transporter, ala Star Trek -- clean, efficient, fast. I could by fly fishing in Montana every weekend, or watching the wolves play in Alaska. Back to nature is where I long to be in quite a few ways.<br><br>I would miss watching Lost, Jericho, and Stargate Atlantis, though...</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700880" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700880">Sheri</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700880" class="dsq-comment-message">I have a rotary phone in my house.  It\'s hard wired to the wall and has a cloth chord to the receiver.  When I first bought my house, I had a flat tire.  I asked my then 9 year old (1995) to please to go the one phone the house had (rotary) and call for assistance.  He comes back and says to me "Mom, I cant push the buttons."  I was stressed and annoyed.  I go over to the phone and realize that he has NEVER SEEN a rotary phone.  He didnt know how far to turn the dial.  That room is now his (2007) and he shows off the rotary phone to all his friends!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700881" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700881">Enlightenment</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700881" class="dsq-comment-message">Obsolete Skills:<br>- How to remove a bottle of soda from one of those old-school soda machines...then opening it with a bottle opener.<br>- Opening old beer cans, actually had to pull off the tab...without breaking the key ring.<br>- How to survive without items that use electricity (grin). Any one with camping skills can do it.<br><br>Recently mostly-obsolete computer skills:<br>- How to download a file through a modem or serial port using Xmodem, Ymodem, Zmodem, Kermit.<br><br>Computer skills that aren\'t obsolete, even though lots of people think they are:<br>- RS232. There are tons of "headless" servers and electronics equipment that still have it as primary console or debug port. RS232 is too flipping cheap to add and get a connection to an embedded processor.  I didn\'t say that I love RS232, just that it isn\'t obsolete as some of you dumbasses think it is.<br>- DOS prompt. Yes, we don\'t do things at a true DOS prompt, but there is a console prompt that everyone in Linux and Unix still use, thus it isn\'t obsolete.  The DOS prompt is nothing more than a console prompt.<br><br>Very much obsolete computer skills:<br>- How to duplicate a Punch Card, how to submit a job batch using Punch Cards, and all Punch Card related skills.<br><br>Mostly obsolete computer skills:<br>- This list is extremely long, and not useful unless you need to restore data from an old computer.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700882" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700882">Marvin</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700882" class="dsq-comment-message">Multimedia skills that are becoming obsolete:<br><br>threading a 8-mm or 16-mm film projector (except in schools)<br>splicing/editing film<br>placing slides in rotary/tray projectors<br><br>typesetting<br>manual kerning<br>correct ligature usage<br><br>using a payphone/emergency callbox (getting pretty rare in my state, even on rural roads)</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700803" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700803">Jack</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700803" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700803" class="dsq-comment-message">Using the internet.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700805" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700805" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700805" href="http://www.michaelschuyler.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">michaelschuyler</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700805" class="dsq-comment-message">I love these comments from folks who proudly proclaim "X is not dead because I still use it!" At least TRY to understand the pont here, dude. If you\'re not dead yourself you are clearly obsolete.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700806" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700806">Grant</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700806" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700806" class="dsq-comment-message">Administrating BBS sites</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700807" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700807" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700807">Peter X</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700807" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700807" class="dsq-comment-message">Threading film in a 16mm projector (precious few of us knew even then how to do it right).</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700808" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700808">Terry</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700808" class="dsq-comment-message">Knowing how to dial a rotary phone, or at least knowing how one works is a useful skill.  You can dial the operator with 10 fast clicks of the hook switch, which emulates dialing a 0 on a rotary.  This works even if the DTMF decoders are down because of power loss at the head end.  I used to dial out regular numbers on a "one button dial-free phone" that was supposedly only capable of calling one number, simply by repeating this process for each of the digits I wanted to dial.<br><br>By the way, U.S. West installed a new electromechanical switch outside of St. George Utah in 1994, and tends to amortize equipment costs of a period of 20 years, so system support for rotary phones will continue to be alive and well there until at least 2014, even if it\'s replaced with keypad to make/break converters on things that look like DTMF phones.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700937" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700937" href="http://winamp.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Tag</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700937" class="dsq-comment-message">How to change the background and border color on a commodore 64 ( poke 53280,0 : poke 53281,1 )</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700811" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700811" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700811">Dan</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700811" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700811" class="dsq-comment-message">You can still buy Discwasher new! Vinal is not dead.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700909" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700909" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700909">Mark N.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700909" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700909" class="dsq-comment-message">When somebody on TV tells me not to change the channel, he tells me "don\'t touch that dial!"<br><br>Ain\'t no dials on my TV.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700908" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700908" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700908">TrinSF</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700908" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700908" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'ve had entire jobs in the past that have depended on now obsolete skills. For example, I in college I worked in the language lab as an equipment tech. That involved:<br><br>Repairing/replicing cassette tapes<br>Copying cassette tapes with a high speed copier<br>Cleaning tape decks with alcohol and swabs<br><br>Even less than 10 years ago part of my tech support job involved dialing into systems remotely via modem. When we were having problems connecting with a customer, I\'d go into the modem room to listen to the sounds and diagnose the the connection problem based on that. Evidently being able to tell the difference between modem speeds based on the sound is now a seriously obsolete skill, but it used to be really important.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700889" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700889" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700889" href="http://canadada.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">canadada</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700889" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700889" class="dsq-comment-message">@159.<br><br>Well, until a transporter is \'reality\', I guess we\'ll just have to keep using our limitless imaginations to take us to places in both past and future time: the hopelessly obsolete - and the not even imagined yet.<br><br>In the meantime I guess we\'ll also just have to keep using those old clunker-vehicles wedded to miles and miles of life-defying concrete to carry along our increasingly obsolete body parts  ...</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700887" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700887">George</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700887" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700887" class="dsq-comment-message">How about AOL mass mail warez trading?  you would sign up for a free account with a bogus CC using a CC# generator, then join the warez or zeroday chat room and ask for a mass mail (mm me!).  People would forward you warez from their inbox.  you would then download the attachments. and return the favor when someone else asked for a mass mail.  It died when AOL started authorizing CC before you could sign up.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700886" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700886">DAVE</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700886" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700886" class="dsq-comment-message">Hahaha, since when digital photograph is better than film?<br><br>   1.  Ever try using your best digital camera and shoot the color purple or violet?  And seeing the image afterward?<br><br>   2.  Moire is still a big issue with bayer CCD type - which currently represent 99% of digital camera.<br><br>   3.  Ever shoot real b+w film and print on high silver ?  compare it to a b+w digital, the film knock the socks off digital anyday.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700885" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700885">Miles Attacca</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700885" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700885" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'m 16, but I have a healthy appreciation for the old stuff. I learned how to set the needle down carefully after far too many times watching it skate across my precious thrift store vinyl; I not only learned how to change tracks on 8-tracks, but how to manually resplice the tape so it wouldn\'t unspool when it hit the automatic track change; I\'ve not only used a Selectric but regularly use an old Panasonic dot-matrix printer.<br><br>Old stuff is still cool stuff.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700884" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700884">billy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700884" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700884" class="dsq-comment-message">I don\'t know that getting off of the couch can be considered a skill, whatever the purpose for doing so.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700883" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700883" href="http://www.parentalalienation.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">stan hayward</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700883" class="dsq-comment-message">The one skill above all others that is about to become obsolete is that of Fathering. 1 in 4 fathers in the western world will not see their children grow up due to divorce or separation. Check out URLs on parental alienation and the related issues. Within ten years 1 in 2 fathers will not see their children grow up. The second lost skill that is a direct result of this is that of being a child who can grow up with the support of two parents.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700857" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700857">puttputt</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700857" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700857" class="dsq-comment-message">PRESIDENTIAL SKILLS.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700888" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700888" href="http://www.w3ab.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">George Badger</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700888" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700888" class="dsq-comment-message">I don\'t know about most of you but I still use the majority of those "skills" on a regular basis. Because equipment is old doesn\'t not make it obsolete.<br><br>Stan H. brings up an interesting, and important, issue, fathering.  Stan, I up the ante to use the term parenting which seems to have become obsolete as evidenced by the rude and dumber-than-dirt young people in the ole US of A. But maybe that is being driven by the media.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700861" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700861" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700861" href="http://rushi.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Rushi Vishavadia</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700861" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700861" class="dsq-comment-message">Using carbon paper to make copies - it is used a lot in Asia. You\'d be surprised.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700892" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700892" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700892" href="http://www.junkdrawerphotos.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Richard Gilbert</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700892" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700892" class="dsq-comment-message">First of all:  I still have, and occasionally use, a rotary telephone.  And, "developing film/photos" is definitely NOT an obsolete skill!  Though I must admit, my darkroom has been mysteriously overrun by computers...</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700893" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700893" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700893">vruz</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700893" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700893" class="dsq-comment-message">die hard obsolete skill:<br><br>sending faxes</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700894" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700894" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700894">Level20EastGuy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700894" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700894" class="dsq-comment-message">writing with the correct use of language rules (i.e. spelling, grammar, style, etc). That\'s all pretty obsolete these days.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700896" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700896" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700896">Adrian Rinehart-Balfe</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700896" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700896" class="dsq-comment-message">setting up pointless wikis will be an obsolete skill within a week of this post. It should have been before this post started. How about stoking a steam engine boiler or hunting buffalo with flint spears. Get real everybody!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700895" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700895" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700895">3RDGENFBODY</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700895" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700895" class="dsq-comment-message">NASCAR still uses carbureted engines. The day there are no more carburetors just bury me in my Firebird. EFI is ok, but nothing rumbles like a classic car where the only electronics in the thing are the lights and the radio.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700891" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700891">Larry</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700891" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700891" class="dsq-comment-message">But I enjoy adjusting the Holley 650 on my 65 mustang!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700964" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700964" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700964">Chuck</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700964" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700964" class="dsq-comment-message">Roller skate keys</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700965" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700965" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700965">Terresa</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700965" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700965" class="dsq-comment-message">Where\'s the beef?!!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700853" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700853" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700853">wil</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700853" class="dsq-comment-message">1.  manually clicking over to pick up someone on the other line of the phone.<br>2.  paying attention to how hard you hit your brakes.<br>3.  pinball.  real pinball.<br>4.  presets on an old car radio</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700897" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700897" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700897">chezjake</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700897" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700897" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'ve got one genuinely obsolete skill. I know how to adjust and repair all the old purely mechanical (non-electric, non-electronic) vending machines.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700898" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700898" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700898" href="http://www.amp.com.au/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Annalie Killian</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700898" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700898" class="dsq-comment-message">Laugh...reading through these comments that contradict your list...methinks its evidence of the looooooooong tail!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700854" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700854" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700854" href="http://carlsonestopmall.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Carl Phelps</a>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700854" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700854" class="dsq-comment-message">I enjoyed reading this.  Check out this site...<br><a href="http://www.carlsonestopmall.com" rel="nofollow">www.carlsonestopmall.com</a></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700802" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700802" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700802">jrsq</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700802" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700802" class="dsq-comment-message">Rabbit ears are back with HDTV</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700768" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700768" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700768" href="http://rosemary-nissen-wade.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">SnakyPoet</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700768" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700768" class="dsq-comment-message">The Dewey Decimal System is alive and well in Australia, but drive-ins are long gone, and I haven\'t seen a rotary phone in decades.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700767" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700767" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700767">magicbean</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700767" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700767" class="dsq-comment-message">This list is halfway to idiotic.  It represents the can\'t-do list of a couple of coastal American white boy geeks who live in a tiny world whose world is limited to the computer screen.  These people think they are in some position to declare something obsolete because they themselves don\'t use a skill in their tiny, uniformed world?  Can you spell h-u-b-r-i-s or is that obsolete?  The skills on the list that are truly obsolete are limited to the flash-in-the-pan world of computers.  The rest are things the boys are just not familiar with.  Duh.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700766" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700766" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700766">kah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700766" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700766" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'m raising teenagers here in america, and am embarrassed to admit that since velcro replaced laces/grommets, my daughter took her time learning how to tie her shoes.  When I was a youngster, that was an acknowledged mileston.<br>Also, my kids, until they were fairly old, would double check an analog clock with a digital.  They stiil aren\'t comfortable with the "to" or "til" side of the clock.  It\'s 9:45, NOT a quarter to ten.  Yikes.  And these kids have brains the size of planets, excellent teachers, and two old fart engineers for parents!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700952" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700952" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700952" href="http://thebookofc.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Charlie</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700952" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700952" class="dsq-comment-message">how about kickstarting a motorcycle? rapidly going out of style this one.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700901" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700901" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700901" href="http://hmktest.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">H. Michael Karshis</a>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700901" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700901" class="dsq-comment-message">Proficient in both Freehand and Pagemaker...<br><br>HMK</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700846" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700846" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700846">John D L Davis</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700846" class="dsq-comment-message">@87  Tuning a crystal set radio. Most of you do not even know what I am talking about since that was about 82 years ago. Enjoyed the comments.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700852" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700852" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700852">Lesley Pescod</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700852" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700852" class="dsq-comment-message">I have a rotary phone in my living room...I rarely use it, the cordless gets all the attention.  It still works just great!  I hated it as a teenager we were the only people I knew who owned one.  We keep it around as a conversation piece, and my kids think it\'s funny.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700900">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700900" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700900" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700900">Dana</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700900" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700900" class="dsq-comment-message">Geez.<br><br>Fishing? Do you know how to design, build and repair a boat? Make fishing line from animal gut? Carve hooks? Make a stone or metal tool to carve the hook with?<br><br>Cooking with charcoal for 11 days :rolleyes:? Do you know how to make charcoal?<br><br>Do you plan to eat anything but fish and meat, or do you know how to sustainably garden? Do you know how to make hunting weapons?<br><br>What about digging a safe well? Constructing a pump? Making pots to cook food and purify water? Making baskets to gather food?<br><br>Tanning animal hides? Retting or combing, spinning and weaving fibers?<br><br>It\'s amazing what passes for "survival skills" among people who\'ve never had to do it for more than a couple of days. I guarantee you each one of the skills on this list takes more than "a few hours" to learn.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700961">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700961" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700961" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700961" href="http://sidney96.wordpress.com/2008/03/23/www-pubblica-istruzione-it-nella-sezione/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jeanss</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700961" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700961" class="dsq-comment-message">thats it, brother</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700851">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700851" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700851" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700851">Dean Huster</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700851" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700851" class="dsq-comment-message">For some of poorer folks who couldn\'t afford a mimeograph machine, there was the hektograph.  You bought a can of this liquid you poured into a large, flat dish and it gelled.  Then you used an indelible pencil or a spirit master on a typewriter and made an original.  This was "blotted" onto the surface of the gel and subquent sheets of blank paper were pressed onto this transferred image in the gel to create your copies.  Slow, crude and CHEAP!  I remember using this thing every year when as a kid, Dad sent out reminder cards to members of the community to send in their dues for the volunteer fire department.  You could by the gel liquid at office supply stores.<br><br>Dean</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700848">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700848" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700848" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700848" href="http://www.nuttelozevaardigheden.nl/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Gerard</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700848" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700848" class="dsq-comment-message">Just a quick note to let you know I was very much inspired by this posting, just last friday I launched a Dutch wiki with obsolote skills, <a href="http://www.nuttelozevaardigheden.nl" rel="nofollow">http://www.nuttelozevaardigheden.nl</a></div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700855">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700855" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700855" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9700855" href="http://www.nhoj.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">John Markos O&#39;Neill</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700855" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700855" class="dsq-comment-message">I was thinking about how the middle of generation X (born in the late 60s and early 70s) is a transitional cohort with regard to digital technology. Although we were children in a mostly analog world, and learned many of the obsolete skills in this list, we were exposed to microcomputers as children, too. We\'re natives of both the digital and pre-digital worlds.<br><br>How do you know you\'re part of this lucky group? Identifying obsolete skills include playing Space Invaders on an Atari 2600, and programming BASIC on a Commodore whose programs load from cassette.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700856">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700856" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700856" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700856">Lisa</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700856" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700856" class="dsq-comment-message">I completely disagree with the needle on the record player one.  There is no better quality method of sound reproduction out there yet.  Digital may be more portable but the quality just isn\'t quite there.  I have a turntable, use it often, have hundreds of records, and am only 26 years old.  Some artists still produce vinyl for those with ears that know the difference.<br><br>Vinyl forever!</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9700845">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9700845" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9700845" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9700845">Bryan Anderson</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9700845" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9700845" class="dsq-comment-message">I wonder how many still use abacus, telex machine and DOS...</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-10366087">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-10366087" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-10366087" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-10366087" href="http://solyoung.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Sol Young</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-10366087" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-10366087" class="dsq-comment-message">Personally filtering the noise by reading every tweet and feed...<br><br>Really, Google Wave and Twitter\'s Search are about to make our over-friend-subscription tendencies a thing of the past. I\'m subscribing more and more to search based feeds instead of individual bloggers. My news consumption is now an aggregation of search based aggregations.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11050813">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11050813" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11050813" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11050813">Vickie</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11050813" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11050813" class="dsq-comment-message">I hope you\'re wrong about film becoming obsolete. I prefer working at capturing a great picture to the easy does it approach. Shoot, view, erase, retake. Where\'s the art in that?</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-15501671">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-15501671" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-15501671" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-15501671">Beren1hand</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-15501671" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-15501671" class="dsq-comment-message">1. Using "White-out"<br>2. knowing how to "mimeograph"</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 </ul>\
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