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Sounds like a plan.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_11:36:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8d0dde0c4b3d65b72a92bba1fee5aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675180": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"Chris: sorry to burst your bubble here. I need my media on a faster bus than on a network drive somewhere.\"<br><br>You need a better router.<br>Basically you're saying that the drive is going to fail the instant you dump the movie in from the camera. If that's the case just dump it back in.<br><br>Also you're worrying about something that won't happen in the first place. I would go with the network drive and a good router using NFS, but that's just me.<br><br>You can do other work while the data is transferring to the networked file system. Computers now a days can multiprocess.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-09_11:27:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8d0dde0c4b3d65b72a92bba1fee5aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675181": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I also have reservations about the proprietary (sp?) format.<br><br>With WHS, it's just a normal NTFS format and from what I recall, the user can just pull the disk out when he wants and be able to read the data (or something along these lines). I may be wrong though. Feel free to correct me.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-08_22:47:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "60e2e20c87f61f274fdc2047ee431404", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675182": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@54  \"At least Scoble is using Fedora Core and now Ubuntu....So at least he should be applauded for making one super wise technology choice.\"<br><br>Given his record and pedigree, I rather doubt he had any involvement whatsoever in that decision..", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-08_22:10:23", "killed": false, "user_key": "26493d7270fb206c1e08599674e51e5a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675183": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "When I saw the initial announcement of WHS, I wrote on my blog that I was really excited about the potential, and really nervous about trusting something other than RAID, which has been proven over many years, to safeguard the family pictures.<br><br>Same goes for these guys.  I like the flexibility of a non-RAID solution, though I think Infrant's X-RAID is a pretty good compromise.  I also think they're in for a tough match with Microsoft, especially once people start writing extensions for WHS that build on the platform approach.<br><br>They need a little more \"pow\", I think, if they're going to make it.  Something you can't get from those other solutions.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_10:30:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "05cee85a1f8f0d0134e7470212a742d7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675184": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "At US$699 it is too expensive for Joe consumer and even greater than twice the price of a 700GB Seagate drive.  i.e. To get 750GB of protected storage (2 drives) you need to spend US$1600, or 930GB (3 500GB drives) for the same price.<br><br>See <a href=\"http://www.drobo.com/drobolator/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.drobo.com/drobolator/</a><br><br>Fibre is expense but serious stuff.  To avoid Fibre cost, be able to re-use your existing 100/1000Gbps network, but still have an array (albeit not so clever but still with raid) there's also iSCSI to consider.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_10:36:07", "killed": false, "user_key": "b872323ed82c63ea7e6e410eb52a4f84", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675185": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i><br>Does it work with Linux?<br></i><br><br>Well, it's just a block device ... however, it seems that Data Robotics does not warrant that it works as yet ...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_20:12:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "c1534b96921fd6b2cb0be0687ebab300", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675186": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Does it work with Linux?<br><br>(I had to ask)<br><br>But seriously, I think non-denominational solutions like this are going to give Windows Home Server a run for the money.  A network interface would be nice though.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_20:06:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "macbeach", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675187": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"This thing rocks. I can see buying quite a few of these for PodTech.\"<br>#<br>Here is a prime example skeptical. Drobo just lost Scoble, a well funded Silicon Valley A list customer.<br>#<br>Go to <a href=\"http://podtech.net\" rel=\"nofollow\">podtech.net</a> and check the http headers:<br>You can download <a href=\"http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/</a> for Firefox<br>#<br>You will see this in the GET response.<br>#<br>-Server: Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2<br>#<br>Scoble is using Ubuntu server for <a href=\"http://Podtech.net\" rel=\"nofollow\">Podtech.net</a>, probably because it's cheaper than Windows or Red Hat Enterpise. Who can blame him. Scoble was using Fedora Core before Ubuntu, I remember they were with <a href=\"http://Valueweb.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">Valueweb.com</a> at the same time we used to have coloc at valueweb.<br>#<br>Valueweb has thousands of customers, a lot of them would love to have mini-sans like this one.<br>#<br>But just like Scoble, and us, we run ours out of our offices;<br>#<br>None of us can be Drobo customers, at any cost.<br>Because the Drobo system is simply incompatible with our systems.<br><br>If Drobo had LVM compatibility that would open the door to a whole market of people would could ACTUALLY USE drobo. Home users do not need SAN functionality. Small offices and datacenter customers do.<br>#<br>Making it windows/mac compatible? Why?<br>#<br>It makes no business sense what so ever.<br>Sure I would talk to the people on Sand Hill Rd, if they'd want. We can develop such a system without a major problem in an acceptable time frame. Just have them email us for a quote.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_20:11:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8d0dde0c4b3d65b72a92bba1fee5aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675188": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"This thing rocks. I can see buying quite a few of these for PodTech.\"<br><br>He couldn't buy any for <a href=\"http://podtech.net\" rel=\"nofollow\">podtech.net</a> if he wanted to.<br><br>Go to <a href=\"http://podtech.net\" rel=\"nofollow\">podtech.net</a> and check the http headers:<br>You can download <a href=\"http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/</a> for Firefox<br><br>You will see this in the GET response.<br><br>-Server: Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2<br><br>Scoble is using Ubuntu server for <a href=\"http://Podtech.net\" rel=\"nofollow\">Podtech.net</a>, probably because it's cheaper than Windows or Red Hat Enterpise. Who can blame him. Scoble was using Fedora Core before Ubuntu, I remember they were with <a href=\"http://Valueweb.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">Valueweb.com</a> at the same time we used to have coloc at valueweb.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_20:13:35", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8d0dde0c4b3d65b72a92bba1fee5aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675189": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"This thing rocks. I can see buying quite a few of these for PodTech.\"<br><br>Here is a prime example skeptical. Drobo just lost Scoble, a well funded Silicon Valley A list customer.<br><br>Go to <a href=\"http://podtech.net\" rel=\"nofollow\">podtech.net</a> and check the http headers:<br>You can download <a href=\"http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/</a> for Firefox<br><br>You will see this in the GET response.<br><br>-Server: Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2<br><br>Scoble is using Ubuntu server for <a href=\"http://Podtech.net\" rel=\"nofollow\">Podtech.net</a>, probably because it's cheaper than Windows or Red Hat Enterpise. Who can blame him. Scoble was using Fedora Core before Ubuntu, I remember they were with <a href=\"http://Valueweb.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">Valueweb.com</a> at the same time we used to have coloc at valueweb.<br><br>Valueweb has thousands of customers, a lot of them would love to have mini-sans like this one.<br><br>But just like Scoble, and us, we run ours out of our offices;<br><br>None of us can be Drobo customers, at any cost.<br>Because the Drobo system is simply incompatible with our systems.<br><br>If Drobo had LVM compatibility that would open the door to a whole market of people would could ACTUALLY USE drobo. Home users do not need SAN functionality. Small offices and datacenter customers do.<br><br>Making it windows/mac compatible? Why?<br><br>It makes no business sense what so ever.<br>Sure I would talk to the people on Sand Hill Rd, if they'd want. We can develop such a system without a major problem in an acceptable time frame. Just have them email us for a quote.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_19:19:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8d0dde0c4b3d65b72a92bba1fee5aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675190": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@16 \"And why would you push this ahead of a standard RAID solution which is better supported?\"<br><br>Are you forgetting who PodTech's sponsor is?  According to Scoble this doodad could enable more seagate sales.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_15:04:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "26493d7270fb206c1e08599674e51e5a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675191": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Is this device based on Sun's ZFS technology?  From technical description of the device, it sure *sounds like* ZFS to me.<br><br>However, on their web-site, they imply they have developed the core technology themselves and have patented it:<br><br>\"the patent-pending technology within Drobo is not RAID and was developed specifically to perform data management and configuration tasks automatically so that you don't have to.\"<br><br>I think they should clarify whether or not this device is based around Sun's ZFS.  As it is, they give the *impression* of being dishonest in their marketing.  They might not be: they might well have developed the file system used in Drobo themselves - but I really do think they need to clarify this.<br><br>In fact, if it *is* based around ZFS, I think it would add to the credibility of the device.  ZFS is a serious file system.  Few customers for this kind of device would have any doubts trusting their data to ZFS.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_17:04:04", "killed": false, "user_key": "6625370ffa42f6c3f82d88c4bce53fc9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675192": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Unraid seems more flexible and cheaper....<br><br><a href=\"http://www.lime-technology.com/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.lime-technology.com/</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-08_09:38:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "4fb4367b1b6b84bb26ab4a24b9b0e576", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675193": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Sorry, that may have come off a little harsh. This is a mini-SAN with plug n play LVM type functionality. Why patent a FS? Why not use free Linux, publish the source and make the product cost $149 instead?<br><br>You're not going to sell many at that price.<br><br>In all fairness, I can imagine that you just filed the patent application and that it may not be in the USPTO application database just yet.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_18:37:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8d0dde0c4b3d65b72a92bba1fee5aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675194": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Simon asks ...<br><br><i><br>Just to clarify\u2026 Are you familiar with ZFS? And do you *know* that Drobo isn\u2019t based on ZFS?<br></i><br><br>I am familiar with ZFS to the extent of having seen presentations on ZFS and having read stuff on the the ZFS web site.<br><br>I do know that Drobo isn't based on ZFS. It is only a block storage device, which is why I mentioned USB.<br><br>It sits below the filesystem, kinda like LVM. There is no file system on Drobo. The UI that is provided autoformats it for NTFS or HFS or you can manually format it for NTFS or other file systems.<br><br>The references to rebooting and waiting and waiting etc were to the Infrant product. Unless they have changed their product and not updated their FAQ, that is what happnes.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_18:50:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "c1534b96921fd6b2cb0be0687ebab300", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675195": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I would honestly get one for the office, but<br><br>A. A backup HDD and a cron script is cheaper<br><br>B. The product is closed source, even though it is a hardware product<br><br>C. The website does not state it's compatibility with ext2/3 fs.<br><br>Most of the servers in the world that would actually use this are running Linux.<br><br>Skeptical, I take it you work for them. Try to bring the price down and make it LVM compatible if you can. A SAN for home use? Too many people have a media center of some type now for that to be practical. My PS3 is outfitted with a 120 GB drive. More than enough to serve as a backup.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_18:55:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8d0dde0c4b3d65b72a92bba1fee5aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675196": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Chris says:<br><br><i><br>My last question, couldn\u2019t one simply buy a 4 SATA connector enclosure, put the host FS on LVM instead, have some kind of PNP LVM manager and sell those for $99 a piece?<br><br>You could pull that off with $5 worth of plastic and a 333mhz cpu or even arm for a production cost of $30 and sell it back for $50. The \u201cD-Link\u201d version of your product.(hide the GPL line from &gt;strings, FSF does that first when they test it)<br></i><br><br>There are some guys on Sand Hill road who would like to talk to you about that business if you have more than a powerpoint presentation ...<br><br>LVM does not have the capabilities that are in the Drobo box.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_18:56:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "c1534b96921fd6b2cb0be0687ebab300", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675197": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html</a><br>Advanced search on published applications(not approved)<br>AN/\"Data Robotics\"<br>AN/\"Trusted Data Corporation\"<br>For the company or assignee name.<br><br>You can search published applications at the USPTO<br>Data Robotics/Trusted Data Corporation has no pending applications for any patents.<br><br>You can try <a href=\"http://www.google.com/patents\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.google.com/patents</a> too<br><a href=\"http://www.google.com/patents?q=%2522trusted+data+corporation%2522&amp;btnG=Search+Patents\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.google.com/patents?q=%22trusted+data...</a><br><br>Their TM app is there, but no patents applications pending.<br>I have experience with Sun gear, and I don't see the huge advantage of ZFS in a practical environment. I'm getting rid of our Sun stuff like it was going out of style. Oh wait.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_17:54:20", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8d0dde0c4b3d65b72a92bba1fee5aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675198": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"Nope. It is a USB storage device that uses a pooled storage model and provides transparent redundancy.\"<br><br>Yeah, I like LVM too. ;)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_17:56:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8d0dde0c4b3d65b72a92bba1fee5aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675199": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hi skeptical. Many thanks for your reply. Just to clarify... Are you familiar with ZFS?  And do you *know* that Drobo isn't based on ZFS?<br><br>The reason why I ask is that, with reference to your reply:<br><br>o ZFS \"uses a pooled storage model\" and provides \"transparent redundancy\".<br><br>o With ZFS, you \"don't have to reboot and wait and wait and wait\" - all operations in ZFS are completed on-line, and usually take a few seconds.<br><br>o And I'm not clear why you mentioned USB and \"command line stuff\" - to me, those things seem orthogonal to the ZFS question.<br><br>It's quite an undertaking to develop a new file system.  Even a company as large as Apple, that builds its own operation system, didn't feel able to take this on with the next version of Mac OS X (Leopard). Instead Apple chose to port ZFS from Solaris to Mac OS X.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_18:01:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "6625370ffa42f6c3f82d88c4bce53fc9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675200": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "My last question, couldn't one simply buy a 4 SATA connector enclosure, put the host FS on LVM instead, have some kind of PNP LVM manager and sell those for $99 a piece?<br><br>You could pull that off with $5 worth of plastic and a 333mhz cpu or even arm for a production cost of $30 and sell it back for $50. The \"D-Link\" version of your product.(hide the GPL line from &gt;strings, FSF does that first when they test it)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_18:14:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8d0dde0c4b3d65b72a92bba1fee5aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675201": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Simon asks:<br><br><i><br>Is this device based on Sun\u2019s ZFS technology? From technical description of the device, it sure *sounds like* ZFS to me.<br></i><br><br>Nope. It is a USB storage device that uses a pooled storage model and provides transparent redundancy.<br><br>You don't have to run some command-line stuff to add new drives to the pool. Just add them, and the unit does all the rest. You don't have to reboot and wait and wait and wait to use the unit.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_17:09:44", "killed": false, "user_key": "c1534b96921fd6b2cb0be0687ebab300", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675202": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"You can if you like. The two that are on my desk have a mix of Seagate, Western Digital, White Label and Fujitsu drives, but then, that\u2019s the only way to make sure the firmware works with different drives.\"<br><br>\"I'm not only a hairclub client, I'm also the president!\"<br><br>Very nice. Scoble could easily cut to the chase and post 1 in 10 seagate commercial highlight strips though and it would be less tacky.<br><br>We know he has to make money some how, but he could be less subversive about it.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_16:44:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8d0dde0c4b3d65b72a92bba1fee5aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675203": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Chris asks:<br><br><i><br>Should we all make sure we ONLY use the product with Genuine Seagate TM hard drives, or does that go without saying?<br></i><br><br>You can if you like. The two that are on my desk have a mix of Seagate, Western Digital, White Label and Fujitsu drives, but then, that's the only way to make sure the firmware works with different drives.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_15:41:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "c1534b96921fd6b2cb0be0687ebab300", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675204": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I was a Beta tester for this device and it works really well as DAS.<br>Windows automatically recognises the unit and essentially you can just use it as another drive from within Windows.<br><br>I successfully used this drive (shared on my network) to stream a variety of Media files around the place.<br><br>It's also a very resilient backup device. I currently have 4 300gb drives in it and it's been working perfectly for me.<br><br><br>Price aside, this device is recommended.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-08_07:20:01", "killed": false, "user_key": "d9d82e389f33c77c2dc5103ccde4a7f4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675205": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "If you really wanna try this out, here's a discount code that will get you $100 off at the drobo store:  REFDANA<br><br>(good thru may 31)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-20_08:40:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "941ae16db0fa97c58222f4e0ce079852", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675206": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Steve says:<br><br><i><br>I suspect this means you will only be able to access the data on the disks with a Drobo box. So if your Drobo dies, your stuck.<br></i><br><br>Well, yes, and no, and in any case, if you lose your hardware with J-Random RAID supplier, you are kinda stuck as well, eh.<br><br>In any event, if you lose the box, just return it to the factory for a replacement if it is still under warranty. When it comes back, put the same set of drives back in the box, and you are under way.<br><br>What could be easier?<br><br>Anon says:<br><br><i><br>And why would you push this ahead of a standard RAID solution which is better supported?<br></i><br><br>Because RAID stinks. With your standard J-Random RAID hardware, can you pop a small drive, replace it with a larger drive, all while copying data to the device, and instantly have more space?<br><br>Can you populate your J-Random RAID hardware with drives as you want to? Start with two 250GB drives, because they were cheap at Frys, then add a couple of 300GB drives because they were cheap, then 6 months later, pop the 250s and replace them with 750GB drives because they are cheap, all the while never having to move your data back and forth and enjoying pretty much all of the space?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_15:38:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "c1534b96921fd6b2cb0be0687ebab300", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675207": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Is this something like how google manages their storage, where they don't use raid but just keep multiple copies of the data somewhere else?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_15:54:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "30cadfe04697e3a1418324a56dceecc6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675208": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I want to learn more \u2014 this sound interesting.<br><br>If its based on ZFS then its a pile of shit. I hope not.<br><br>ZFS is a turd buried in a cream puff \u2026 its typical SUN crap \u2026 s\u2026. I tried it on a Panther develper release \u2026 command line only, not all implemented, a total waste of time. This could be Apple\u2019s fault, but a friend tried it on Opensolaris \u2014 ZFS works, but its SLOWWWW\u2026. Sun removed negative comments about performance from their site\u2026. you can still find them on waybackmachine \u2026..", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-12_01:53:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "315bc00bf4feec0d127c5a7e53427470", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675209": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "It sounds like something that might go well with Windows Home Server. I wonder if it could be an OEM solution for WHS.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_03:00:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "60e2e20c87f61f274fdc2047ee431404", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675210": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "What's the big deal?  I can buy a Infrant Readynas for $620 today, load it up with 2 or 4 drives, run XRaid and be done with it (no maintenance.)<br><br>I did do that about 6 months ago, only hiccup since was a power outage, and it came back up like a champ (I bought a $40 UPS after that.)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_14:37:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "c14835c3667a28a6f94e1489888d7126", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675211": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2807658&amp;CatId=2427\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchT...</a><br><br>239.99<br><br>That's a third of the price, and you have OSX/XP compatibility and a firewire-800 interface. It's not even on sale.<br><br>You could pick them up for under 200.<br>Don't get me wrong, you absolutely don't even need this for lease machines, but if you were going to any way.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-08_10:04:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8d0dde0c4b3d65b72a92bba1fee5aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675212": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Sounds like proprietary garbage.  Why do consumers get stuck with proprietary crap just because they don't know the functionality, safety, and security of all this has been available for decades using standards?  And why would you push this ahead of a standard RAID solution which is better supported?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_14:39:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "9aae0e2c1503b1e541e4c4cb9bb08f0a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675213": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@33. Thanks for that Skeptical.  That was really helpful.<br><br>@41. Robert, presumably you're not thinking of using these for HD video editing? Is USB fast enough for that? I'd have thought mirrored pairs of RAID 0'ed (2,3 or 4 disks striped) eSATA drive cages would have been the obvious low-cost option for reliable (redundant) , high-performance video editing?<br><br>eSATA is blazingly fast for data transfers if you have striped disks at the other end of the wire (you need striped disks, otherwise the write-speed of the disk is limiting) - easily good enough for moving HD video around.  USB 2, on the other hand, is usually dog slow for data transfers - the wire protocol is usually limiting, even with just a single drive attached.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-08_02:54:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "6625370ffa42f6c3f82d88c4bce53fc9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675214": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I don't know much about RAID, so you guys can help me out. Drobo can do the following. Can RAID systems?<br><br>* Have inserted into the array any from 1-4 drives of any size and any manufacturer at any time?<br>* Remove any drive at any time and still read/write your files while your data is being moved around to be backed up again?<br>* When the array is full, with 4 drives, remove a drive and replace it with a larger drive to get more space, all the while continuing to read and/or write data to the array?<br>* Just format and go? (i.e. no configuration necessary.)<br>* If a drive fails, just replace it (or not) and your data is still valid and accessible?<br>* Yellow and Red leds (and blue capacity lights) gives you up to the second information on the status of your array and your used (and free) capacity?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_13:42:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "1ecb317c73afd5ecf17fdfb61ca7fac7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675215": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Groan, techie-by-blog types attracted by bright and shiny new gadgets, like moths to a flame. And yeah I heard about it too, press chatter network. ;) Yeah, more \"pow\" is exactly what I thought. Bit out of price range for home market and far less functional for the prosumer and IT Pro market, and with proprietary tech, too risky, goodbye data.<br><br>On topic, why is Seagate pulling away from eSata? USB 2 and Firewire, feh.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_13:10:14", "killed": false, "user_key": "7f6291e8344b594235e57b843fc05d9b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675216": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"Robert, presumably you\u2019re not thinking of using these for HD video editing?\"<br><br>The company reps I talked to specifically said no to that idea...for the time being. Firewire is obviously coming eventually.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-08_15:30:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "d839e2b648b248c1cf84d4f10436c949", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675217": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"it has no place on a professional editing station.\"<br><br>That's good because it's not meant for that.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-08_15:31:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "d839e2b648b248c1cf84d4f10436c949", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675218": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hey visit my sites:<br><a href=\"http://7thgradesurvival.wordpress.com/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://7thgradesurvival.wordpress.com/</a><br>and<br><a href=\"http://mytips4clubpenguin.wordpress.com/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://mytips4clubpenguin.wordpress.com/</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_13:00:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "8d37fc358e5060e2588733807d2b4ce5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675219": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "It only connects via USB?<br><br>Is that true?<br><br>Thats pretty dang slow.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-08_02:05:22", "killed": false, "user_key": "b5d1eebeb73bb289fc5891a3efac7ae1", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675220": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i><br>Maybe the guy at Lime Technology can figure out how to add some of Drobo\u2019s slick hardware features in their UnRaid product.<br></i><br><br>Ha ha. That UnRaid technology is just UnReal. Look at all the down time and screwing around just to add a drive. Great move, that!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-10_21:07:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "0fa34e960ca558acd3d7afca03ce768c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675221": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"Obviously someone else couldn\u2019t keep it under wraps.\"<br><br>Not sure what you mean by that - they were showing the Drobo off at Photoshop World in Boston this past week.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-08_15:29:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "d839e2b648b248c1cf84d4f10436c949", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675222": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@gary,<br><br>You're being absolutely silly. Scoble has NFS and Samba with the Ubuntu server. On an internal lan he could drag and drop a video file raw onto a RAID Ubuntu cluster through Samba in a minute or so.<br><br>The reason that solution is INFINITELY more attractive than patching each machine is because it's centrally managed.<br>Each person, using Linux, Windows or Mac can use this solution transparently and that server can get backed up nightly or in real time with free software that comes with Ubuntu.<br><br>In an office situation, what Scoble is proposing is probably the most wasteful way you could go about solving that problem.<br>Again, Scoble is far from an IT specialist or manager, so who can blame him for wanting the shiny new engadget toy.<br>At least Scoble is using Fedora Core and now Ubuntu. He could have used Windows server and that would have lead to some huge problems on the server side. So at least he should be applauded for making one super wise technology choice.<br><br>Supported RHEL4-5 wouldn't have been a bad choice either, because RH road tests the configurations way more than Ubuntu. Which is part of the reason it costs so much more.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-08_16:06:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8d0dde0c4b3d65b72a92bba1fee5aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675223": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "can't wait to get my hands on this robot.<br>Unfortunately i live in europe and this thing doesn't seem to be shipped over sea.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_12:04:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "e9684de403d1b6d152d447a795ad760f", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675224": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Zian says:<br><br><i><br>I also have reservations about the proprietary (sp?) format.<br></i><br><br>What propietary format? It's a block storage device.<br><br>In any event, NTFS and all the stuff Microsoft are doing in WHS are all propietary.<br><br>According to <a href=\"http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/whs_preview.asp\" rel=\"nofollow\">Paul Thurrott</a>:<br><br><i><br>With WHS, storage is hot-swappable. You can plug in an 80 GB hard drive, for example, and configure it quickly with the WHS Add Drive wizard. When you want to remove it and replace it with a 500 GB drive, there's a simple wizard for that as well.<br></i><br><br>Well, that's neat, but with the Drobo, you just plug a drive into the unit, and you have more storage. No wizard, no nothing. Unit full? No problem. Remove the smallest drive and plug in a larger drive. No wizard there either.<br><br>And there is still no ZFS under the hood. It's just block storage.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-09_03:10:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "c1534b96921fd6b2cb0be0687ebab300", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675225": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i><br>As for my own thoughts on the product, it\u2019s niffty for home storage, but without eSATA or at the very least FW 800, it has no place on a professional editing station.<br></i><br><br>Shhhh! Their product management might hear you.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-08_14:19:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "c1534b96921fd6b2cb0be0687ebab300", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675226": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "For ~$700, I'd like to see a version that is networkable, has 8-12 drive bays and includes the slick software utilities that are coming with Microsoft's Windows Home Server for backing up systems on the home network and remote access. Maybe the guy at Lime Technology can figure out how to add some of Drobo's slick hardware features in their UnRaid product.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-10_13:15:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "edcf3104ed6632ea002647709563c313", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675227": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I don't edit HD yet. This setup should work fine for the kind of work I do.<br><br>LayZ is correct. We have an engineering team that chose the OS's we use on server side.<br><br>Chris: sorry to burst your bubble here. I need my media  on a faster bus than on a network drive somewhere. USB isn't really fast enough for some of the work I'd like to do (Maxtor/Seagate has RAID drives I'll use for that). But for much of the work we do these Drobos are just great.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-09_01:59:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675228": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Most of the time companies such as yours lease or rent from Apple, HP ect.... because the depreciation turnover on the machines is too big of an expense.<br><br>That being said leased equipment is used for maybe 1-2 years tops, and usually is too new to have that type of failure.<br><br>You could buy 20 desktop mini-SANs for insurance, but it's probably not worth it. The video is going to wind up on your Ubuntu server anyway, and that is most likely backed up daily.<br><br>I have a feeling you are in a position where you can afford to be nice and keep this company going with a bulk purchase, and there's nothing wrong with that.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_20:54:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8d0dde0c4b3d65b72a92bba1fee5aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675229": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Chris: that's on our servers. That's not where I want to use Drobo. We have quite a few video editing systems being built. I need TONS of reliable storage. Drobo is going to fit the bill just fine for that. All our desktops are either Windows or Macs.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_20:16:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675230": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\u201cThis thing rocks. I can see buying quite a few of these for PodTech.\u201d<br><br>This is also why executives make extremely bad technology buyers. They'll make statements based on wishful thinking, then have to back them up with actual money later.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_20:16:44", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8d0dde0c4b3d65b72a92bba1fee5aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675231": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"All our desktops are either Windows or Macs.\"<br><br>Ah, I see. Normally you don't need a SAN or automatic backup in that type of environment though.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_20:17:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8d0dde0c4b3d65b72a92bba1fee5aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675232": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Anyone that thinks that you don't need reliable desktop storage for projects because drives don't fail, or that large companies lease their desktop machines and get them replaced every 1-2 years is just not living in the real world.<br><br>In the real world, the one that I live in, drives fail all the time and MTBF numbers mean nothing when a drive drops dead right in front of your eyes.  Its MTBF was actually two weeks, not 50,000 hours.  Oops, they'll have to adjust that average failure rate down by .000001% now.  That might not affect their product line much, but to me that was a 100% failure.  Again, if you don't think it happens, then you have never, and I stress never, worked in an IT support department in your life.  It happens all the time.<br><br>This is why you need resilient desktop workspace.  We're not talking about long-term SAN storage or backed up web sites.  We're talking about all of the raw footage and project files that you are working on now.  RAID 0 is great and I use it for my primary drive on this machine, but it only increases your chances of drive failure.  SAN's are a wonderful resilient NETWORK storage technology, but it is virutaly useless for desktop editing, even on gig ehternet.<br><br>As for my own thoughts on the product, it's niffty for home storage, but without eSATA or at the very least FW 800, it has no place on a professional editing station.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-08_13:44:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "d43b31b1d98966b95da0afb87fabe3b9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675233": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Technically, it's not RAID.<br><br>From there site \"..the patent-pending [read proprietary] technology within Drobo is not RAID and was developed specifically to perform data management and configuration tasks automatically so that you don't have to. Drobo does utilize advanced storage concepts such as virtualization, but it is not a derivative of RAID.\"<br><br>I suspect this means you will only be able to access the data on the disks with a Drobo box. So if your Drobo dies, your stuck.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_03:50:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "cdafe501caff10374da4f68277a1ccd7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675234": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Sounds a lot like Infrant's X-RAID products. <a href=\"http://www.infrant.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.infrant.com</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_03:04:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "966c2656ac81a4e84263dc2cbe6b4f20", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675235": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "mack: that\u00b4s what i wanted to write ;)<br>where\u00b4s the big difference to a readynas NV+?<br>(that\u00b4s on my shopping list for a couple of months already)<br><br>rgrds<br>Matt", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_04:16:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "7e622a13356708c21e61976d1c5bd924", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675236": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Scoble, contrary to what you wrote, it's already available for immediate order as of this writing.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_04:18:34", "killed": false, "user_key": "8d1a62db4d22296bb1d9ad2f73536359", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675237": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>USB isn\u2019t really fast enough for some of the work I\u2019d like to do</i><br><br>eSata, baby, eSata...and Seagate is offa that ship seemingly. :(", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-09_03:42:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "7f6291e8344b594235e57b843fc05d9b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675238": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Chris: unlike you I've actually seen a Drobo up close and personal. And it solves a major problem for me on my desktops. What happens if one of those hard drives I have all my video on dies? I lose work and time and money. What happens if a drive dies in a Drobo? Nothing.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_20:26:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675239": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "i do not think it's RAID....it'a a proprietary techno", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_04:19:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "e9684de403d1b6d152d447a795ad760f", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675240": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Yohannes: it might be available for order, but they aren't shipping in quantities until late May, according to their management. I haven't gotten mine yet, for instance.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_04:19:48", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675241": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Steve makes the same point I was going to: what if the Drobo fails?<br><br>As I understand it, This problem exists with RAID controllers as well, but I imagine the proprietary format would make it even worse.<br><br>However, it does look like a cool toy! I just don't feel like trusting it with all my data. Perhaps I'm too old-fashioned, as I don't really trust RAID either.  :)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_05:05:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "7e775b0ec0c18f8b6bb5c46c8278d5df", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675242": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "if you want something that comes from an established company and doesn't look quite as goofy, check out Promise Technology.  they don't call it a \"robot\" but they do put a gigabit ethernet jack on the back:<br><br><a href=\"http://www.promise.com/product/product_detail_eng.asp?product_id=177#\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.promise.com/product/product_detail_e...</a><br><br>there's tons of stuff out there at all price levels, up to 12 drives in a box.  this is a very, very competitive space so check other manufacturers.<br><br>all these doodads hotswap and they all use RAID but isolate you from the nonsense.  this company doesn't use RAID?  huh?<br><br>apple's Xserves price out better than you'd think, too.<br><br>for an operation like podtech, fibre channel is the way to go.  if you're going to actually make HD stuff and not just talk about it, you're not going to want to be waiting for a USB robot.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-04-07_04:19:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "e6cc85b56ada8be933b9593e29652ce0", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675243": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "From my reading of their (sketchy) docs, it is not block storage. The Drobo unit pretends to be a virtual 2TB USB block storage unit, but under the hood it knows about the filesystem you are using (NTFS and HFS+) and does the file replication to multiple drives. In a way, it's a USB-NAS. That's why Linux is not yet supported, they need to add support for ext3 in the filesystem before that can happen.<br><br>It certainly does not use ZFS. ZFS is insanely great, but it does not have the flexibility to add or remove drives at random like Drobo can.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-13_04:02:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "c44f5ab0249de78cb8ab3ff57df1edf8", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675244": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "After reading through the majority of posts here, it's clear that most people don't quite \"get\" the Drobo. Everyone wants to pit it against NAS devices, complain that building an Ubuntu RAID 5 file server is less expensive, that it doesn't support ext3 for Linux, etc.<br><br>You see, therein lies the problem. Drobo's greatest strength turns into it's largest weakness... the fact that it's protected storage. As soon as that fact is known, it's immediately thrown into a class of product where it doesn't belong. Drobo isn't destined to supplant users like you who can setup and configure RAID 5 machines, or can configure RAID NAS devices that directly connect to networks through CAT 5 cables. Why? Because you know what the heck those things are, how to use them, and how to fix them when they break. You, my friends, are in the minority.<br><br>So what are the facts:<br><br>1. All computer users have important data<br>2. All computer users want a reliable backup solution<br><br>Where do most turn? To burning discs or buying a USB drive like the Western Digital Passport. They copy files there and think they're safe. However, users like us know that's \"better than nothing\", but a load of crap.<br><br>That's what Drobo is for... to provide a simple, user friendly device that does the things the common user doesn't understand, and do it well. In fact, the way Drobo handles multi-drive sizes, multiple layers of RAID, instantaneous ability to add space, and the way it can easily grow with the users needs is nothing short of brilliant. Users CAN buy hard drives and slide them into a bay. How do I know that, because people can buy frozen pizzas and slide them into an oven.<br><br>Would networking be a really cool feature? I think so, but I've read some pretty good arguments in the <a href=\"http://www.drobospace.com/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Drobo Forums</a> why it's not really necessary. And there's an <a href=\"http://www.drobospace.com/article/10425/Share-Drobo-on-a-Network--Apple-Airport-Extreme/\" rel=\"nofollow\">article on how to network the Drobo with an Apple Airport Extreme</a> that was pretty interesting.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-06-08_11:24:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "97965e218ba98ce82dd161182d78bb21", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675245": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "FYI - the reference code REFDANA will save you $25 on a new Drobo until July 31!!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-06-12_17:57:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "941ae16db0fa97c58222f4e0ce079852", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9675246": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Fazal says:<br><br><i><br>From my reading of their (sketchy) docs, it is not block storage. The Drobo unit pretends to be a virtual 2TB USB block storage unit, but under the hood it knows about the filesystem you are using (NTFS and HFS+) and does the file replication to multiple drives. In a way, it\u2019s a USB-NAS. That\u2019s why Linux is not yet supported, they need to add support for ext3 in the filesystem before that can happen.<br></i><br><br>It's a USB storage device. That means SCSI over USB.<br><br>Do you know what sort of a performance hit you would take translating LBAs to file offsets and back again and understanding two or three or ten file systems.<br><br>It's a block storage device.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-06-15_12:02:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "c1534b96921fd6b2cb0be0687ebab300", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}}, "integration": {"receiver_url": "", "theme": 4, "reply_position": true, "disqus_logo": false}, "timer": {"timer_url": "http://localhost:8005", "thread_id": "18357775", "user_id": "anonymous", "forum_id": "125200", "hash": -1029731178233391440}, "thread": {"total_posts": 0, "paginate": false, "per_page": 0, "slug": "more_hardware_that_i_have_to_have_drobo", "num_pages": 1, "days_alive": 0, "realtime_paused": true, "id": 18357775, "num_posts": 70, "closed": true, "queued": false, "killed": false}, "reactions_limit": 10, "context": {"show_reply": false, "use_fb_connect": true, "forum_facebook_key": "faaf467d0f47abde553c3b8e0e1b3570", "use_yahoo": false, "subscribed": false, "use_twitter_signin": true, "use_openid": false, "realtime_speed": 5000}, "reactions_start": 0, "settings": {"debug": false, "disqus_url": "http://disqus.com", "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"}, "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"};
	/* */ this.jsonData.cookie_messages = {"user_created": null, "post_has_profile": null, "post_twitter": null, "post_not_approved": null}; this.jsonData.session = {"url": null, "name": null, "email": null}; /* */

	
	this.curPageId = 'dsq-comments';

	this.frames = {};
};

var disqus_popup_reference = null;

if(typeof DsqLocal == 'undefined') {
	DsqLocal = {};
}



/**
 * Dsq.Strings: UI strings
 */
Dsq.Strings = new function() {
	this.ADD_NEW_COMMENT = "Add New Comment";
	this.LOG_INTO_DISQUS = "Log into DISQUS";
	this.USE_MEDIA = "Use Media";
	this.LOGOUT = "Logout";
	this.SHARING_OPTIONS = "Sharing options";
	this.SHARE_ON = "Share on";
	this.TWEET_THIS_COMMENT = "Tweet this comment";
	this.SHARE_ON_NEWSFEED = "Share on news feed";
	this.SEND_UPDATE_TO_YAHOO = "Send update to Yahoo!";
	this.REBLOG_ON = "Reblog on";
	this.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS = "Configure options";
	this.POST_AS = "Post as";
	this.SORT_BY = "Sort by";
	this.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL = "Subscribe by email";
	this.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS = "Subscribe by RSS";
	this.POPULAR_NOW = "Popular now";
	this.BEST_RATING = "Best Rating";
	this.NEWEST_FIRST = "Newest first";
	this.OLDEST_FIRST = "Oldest first";
	this.HIGHLIGHTED = "Highlighted";
	this.UNSUBSCRIBE = "Unsubscribe";
	this.REQUIRED = "Required";
	this.OPTIONAL = "Optional";
	this.YOU_ARE_COMMENTING_AS_A = "You are commenting as a";
	this.LOGIN_BELOW = "Login below";
	this.PLEASE_LOGIN_BELOW_TO_COMMENT = "Please login below to comment.";
	this.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL = "Subscribe to all comments by email";
	this.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS = "Do not subscribe to comments";
	this.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS = "Real-time updating is";
	this.ENABLED = "enabled";
	this.PAUSED = "paused";
	this.PAUSE = "Pause";
	this.RESUME = "Resume";
	this.SHOW = "Show";
	this.JUST_NOW = "Just now";
	this.REPLY = "Reply";
	this.EDIT = "Edit";
	this.FLAG = "Flag";
	this.MODERATE = "Moderate";
	this.CANCEL = "Cancel";
	this.REPLYING_TO = "Replying to";
	this.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS = "Report missing reactions";
	this.POST_A_COMMENT = "Post a comment";
	this.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT = "Flag inappropriate comment";
	this.FLAGGED = "Flagged";
	this.NO = "No";
	this.YES = "Yes";
	this.NEVER_MIND = "Never mind";
	this.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR = "Are you sure you would like to report this comment to a moderator";
	this.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION = "This will flag comments for moderators to take action";
	this.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN = "To rate, please log in";
	this.JUST_A_MOMENT = "Just a moment...";
	this.GUEST = "Guest";
	this.NAME = "Name";
	this.EMAIL = "Email";
  this.WEBSITE = "Website";
  this.SETTINGS = "Settings";
  this.MODERATOR_OPTIONS = "Moderator options: ";
  this.MODERATE_OPTIONS = "Moderate Options";

  // Thread moderator actions
  this.CLOSE_THREAD = "Close thread";
  this.OPEN_THREAD = "Open thread";
  this.REMOVE_THREAD = "Remove thread";
  this.RESTORE_THREAD = "Restore thread";
  this.ACTIONS = "Actions";
};
// Dsq.Strings

/**
 * Dsq.FmtStrings: functions that return interpolated UI strings
 */
Dsq.FmtStrings = new function() {
	// Seems we have to use named interpolation for Django to translate. Investigate more.
	this.LOGGED_IN_AS = function(username) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logged in as %(username)s', {username:username});
	};

	this.LOGOUT_FROM = function(disqus) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logout from %(disqus)s', {disqus:disqus});
	};

	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL = function(total, num) {
		if (num === 1) {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> of <span id='dsq-total-posts'>%(total)s</span> comment", {num:num, total:total});
		} else {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> of <span id='dsq-total-posts'>%(total)s</span> comments", {num:num, total:total});
		}
	};

	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION = function(num) {
		if (num === 1) {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comment", {num:num});
		} else {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comments", {num:num});
		}
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s comment'
				: '%(num)s comments'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_LIKES = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s like'
				: '%(num)s likes'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_POINTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s point'
				: '%(num)s points'
			), {num:num});
	};
};
// Dsq.FmtStrings





Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN = 'a2d140c59df8cd4ce27a20e0829cacd8';
Dsq.COMMENTS_RE = /(<li.*?id="?dsq-comment-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/li>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_RE = /(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-header-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/div>)\s*(<div.*?class="?dsq-comment-body"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_BODY_RE = /\s*(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-message-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
// HACK: Safari ends with "-->" while other browsers end with "--&gt;" as expected.
Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE = /&lt;!--\[(.*?)\]--(?:>|&gt;)/gim;



var FragmentPacket = function(reader, writer, writer_url, is_child, receiveCallback) {
	var that = this;
	this.reader = reader;
	this.writer = writer;
	this.writer_url = writer_url;

	this.is_child = is_child || false;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;

	this._lastHash = null;

	this._accumMsg = '';

	this._lastSeqno = 0;

	this.MAX_DATA_LEN	= 1024;

	this.WAIT_TIME		= 10;

	this.READY		= 0x1;
	this.WRITING	= 0x2;
	this.FIN		= 0x4;
	this.ACK		= 0x8;

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;
	var listener = function() {
		that.recv();
	};
	return window.setInterval(listener, 10);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.log = function(msg) {



};

FragmentPacket.prototype.recv = function() {
	var hash;
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {

		hash = this.reader.name;
	} else {

		var hashIndex = this.reader.location.href.indexOf('#');
		if (hashIndex == -1) {
			return;
		}
		hash = this.reader.location.href.substring(hashIndex+1);
	}
	var flags = parseInt(hash.substring(0, 4), 10);
	var seqno = parseInt(hash.substring(4, 24), 10);
	var data  = hash.substring(24);

	if (this._lastHash !== hash) {
		this._lastHash = hash;
		this.log('recv: ' + hash);

		this.log(' flags: ' + flags);
		this.log(' seqno: ' + seqno + ' len: ' + hash.substring(4, 24).length + ' (' + hash.substring(4, 24) + ')');
		this.log(' data: ' + data + ' len: ' + data.length);

		this._lastSeqno = seqno;

		if (flags & this.WRITING) {
			this._accumMsg += data;
			this.sendFlag(this.ACK, seqno);
			if (flags & this.FIN) {
				this.log('recv finished: ' + decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));
				this.receiveCallback(decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));

				this._accumMsg = '';

				this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
			}
		}
	}

	return {
		flags: flags,
		seqno: seqno,
		data: data
	};
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendRawPacket = function(packet) {
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {
		this.writer.name = packet;
	} else {

		this.writer.location.href = this.writer_url + '#' + packet;
	}

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendFlag = function(flag, seqno) {
	this.sendRawPacket(this._zerofill(flag, 4) + this._zerofill(seqno, 20));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {
	this._send(0, encodeURIComponent(msg));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._send = function(packetNum, msg) {
	var that = this;
	var recvBuf = this.recv();

	if (packetNum === 0) {

		if (!(recvBuf.flags & this.READY)) {
			this.log('client is not ready, waiting...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		}
	} else {

		if (!( (recvBuf.flags & this.ACK) && (recvBuf.seqno === this._lastSeqno) )) {
			this.log('waiting for ack from client...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		} else {
			this.log('received ack: ' + this._lastSeqno + ' ' + recvBuf.seqno);
		}
	}

	var flags = this.WRITING;
	var num_packets = Math.ceil(msg.length / this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	this.log('num_packets: ' + num_packets);

	if (num_packets === packetNum) {

		this.log('message successfully sent!');
		this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
		return true;
	}

	this._lastSeqno++;

	if (packetNum == num_packets-1) {
		flags |= this.FIN;
	}

	var data = msg.substring(packetNum * this.MAX_DATA_LEN, (packetNum+1) * this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	var packet = this._zerofill(flags, 4) + this._zerofill(this._lastSeqno, 20) + data;

	this.log('sending raw packet: ' + packet);
	this.sendRawPacket(packet);

	return this._send(packetNum + 1, msg);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._zerofill = function(num, width) {
	var retval = num.toString();
	var retval_len = retval.length;
	for (var i = 0; i < width - retval_len; i++) {
		retval = '0' + retval;
	}
	return retval;
};

var PostMessagePacket = function(receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId) {
	var that = this;
	this.receiver = receiver;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;
	this.id = id;


	this.receiverId = receiverId;
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;

	var listener = function(e) {

		if (!that.id) {
			that.id = e.data;
			return;
		}


		var id = e.data.split(';')[0];
		if (id !== that.id) {
			return;
		}
		var data = e.data.substring(e.data.indexOf(';') + 1);

		that.receiveCallback(data);
	};

	if (typeof window.attachEvent == 'function') {
		window.attachEvent('onmessage', listener);
	} else if (typeof window.addEventListener == 'function') {
		window.addEventListener('message', listener, false);
	} else {
		throw new Error('No method found to create event listener for PostMessagePacket.');
	}
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {



	var needs_reget = false;
	try {
		if (typeof this.receiver.id == 'undefined' || typeof this.receiver.postMessage == 'undefined') {
			needs_reget = true;
		}
	} catch(e) {


	}
	if (needs_reget && typeof this.receiverId != 'undefined') {
		this.receiver = document.getElementById(this.receiverId).contentWindow;
	}

	var packet;
	if (!msg) {

		packet = this.id;
	} else {
		packet = this.id + ';' + msg;
	}
	this.receiver.postMessage(packet, '*');
};

PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = null;
PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id = function() {
	var id = (new Date()).getTime();
	if (id == PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id) {
		id++;
	}
	PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = id;
	return id.toString();
};

var JsonRpc = function() {

	this.ids = {};

	this.objectToJSON = function(obj) {
		var json = '';
		var results = [];

		if (obj === undefined || obj === null) {
			return 'null';
		}

		switch (obj.constructor) {
			case Object:
				for (var property in obj) {
					if (obj.hasOwnProperty(property)) {
						results.push(this.objectToJSON(property) + ': ' + this.objectToJSON(obj[property]));
					}
				}
				json = '{' + results.join(', ') + '}';
				break;
			case Array:
				for (var i = 0; i < obj.length; i++) {
					results.push(this.objectToJSON(obj[i]));
				}
				json = '[' + results.join(', ') + ']';
				break;
			case Number:
			case Boolean:
				json = obj.toString();
				break;
			case String:

				var specialChars = {'\b': '\\b', '\t': '\\t', '\n': '\\n', '\f': '\\f', '\r': '\\r', '\\': '\\\\'};

				json = obj.replace(/[\x00-\x1f\\]/g, function(match) {
					var ch = specialChars[match];
					return ch ? ch : '\\u00' + match.charCodeAt().toPaddedString(2, 16);
				});

				json = '"' + json.replace(/"/g, '\\"') + '"';
				break;
			default:

				json = 'null';
				break;
		}

		return json;
	};

	this.createHandler = function(send_func, registered_funcs) {
		var that = this;
		var handler = function(message) {

			try {
				var rpc = eval('(' + message + ')');
			} catch(e) {
				alert('bad JSON: ' + message);
				return;
			}
			if (rpc.method) {

				if (!registered_funcs[rpc.method]) {
					return;
				}

				var retval = registered_funcs[rpc.method].apply(null, rpc.params);
				if (rpc.id) {
					var response = {
						result: retval,
						error: null,	// TODO
						id: rpc.id
					};
					send_func(that.objectToJSON(response));
				}
			} else if(rpc.result) {

				if (!that.ids[rpc.id]) {
					return;
				}

				that.ids[rpc.id](rpc.result);
				delete that.ids[rpc.id];
			}
		};
		return handler;
	};

	this.execute = function(send_func, method, params, response_callback) {
		response_callback = response_callback || null;
		var id = (response_callback) ? (new Date()).getTime() : null;

		var request = {
			method: method,
			params: params,
			id: id
		};

		send_func(this.objectToJSON(request));

		if (id) {
			this.ids[id] = response_callback;
		}
	};
};
JsonRpc = new JsonRpc();

var ParentMessenger = function(childUrl, receiverUrl, container, receiveCallback) {


	if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Safari') >= 0 && parseInt(navigator.userAgent.substring(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Version/') + 8), 10) == 3) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	} else if (window.opera) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}



	if (!receiverUrl &&
		navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Gecko') >= 0 &&
		parseFloat(navigator.userAgent.slice(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 3, navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 6)) < 1.9) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}


	if (/msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent)) {


		if (document.domain == window.location.hostname) {
			receiverUrl = '';
		}
	}

	var that = this;
	this.childUrl = childUrl;
	this.receiverUrl = receiverUrl;
	this.container = container || document.body;

	this.packetHandler = null;


	this._ready = false;
	this._error = false;


	var _createReceiverForFragmentPacket = function() {

		that.receiver = document.createElement('iframe');
		that.receiver.src = receiverUrl;
		that.receiver.id = 'receiver_' + (new Date()).getTime();
		that.receiver.name = that.receiver.id;

		that.receiver.frameBorder = '0';
		that.receiver.frameSpacing = '0';
		that.receiver.style.borderStyle = 'none';

		var receiver_onload = function() {
			var receiver = document.getElementById(that.receiver.id).contentWindow;

			try {
				receiver.document.body.innerHTML = '';
			} catch(e) {

				that._error = true;
			}
			receiver.document.body.style.padding = '0px';
			receiver.document.body.style.margin = '0px';

			var child = receiver.document.createElement('iframe');
			child.id = 'child';
			child.name = 'child';
			child.src = that.childUrl;

			child.frameBorder = '0';
			child.frameSpacing = '0';
			child.style.borderStyle = 'none';
			child.style.width = '100%';
			child.style.height = '100%';
			receiver.document.body.appendChild(child);

			that.child = receiver.document.getElementById('child').contentWindow;
			that.receiver = receiver;

			that.packetHandler = new FragmentPacket(that.receiver, that.child, that.childUrl, false, receiveCallback);

			that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();

			that.packetHandler.sendFlag(that.packetHandler.READY, 0);

			that._ready = true;
		};

		that.receiver.onreadystatechange = function() {
			if (this.readyState == 'complete') {
				receiver_onload();
			}
		};

		that.receiver.onload = receiver_onload;







		if (Dsq.Utils.ie) {
			if (that.container.clientWidth === 0) {

				var _waitForWidth = function() {
					if (that.container.clientWidth > 0) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					} else {
						window.setTimeout(_waitForWidth, 100);
					}
				};
				_waitForWidth();

				that._once = false;
				that.receiver.onresize = function() {
					if (!that._once) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					}
					that._once = true;
				};
			}
		}

		that.container.appendChild(that.receiver);
	};


	var _createReceiverForPostMessage = function() {

		var receiver_onload = function() {

			that.packetHandler.send();
			that._ready = true;
		};

		var id = PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id();
		var receiverId = 'child_' + id;


		ParentMessenger['_receiver_onload_' + receiverId] = receiver_onload;

		that.container.innerHTML += '<iframe ' +
			'src="' + childUrl + '" ' +
			'id="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'name="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'onload="ParentMessenger._receiver_onload_' + receiverId +'();" ' +
			'></iframe>';

		that.receiver = document.getElementById(receiverId).contentWindow;
		that.packetHandler = new PostMessagePacket(that.receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId);
		that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();
	};

	if (typeof window.postMessage == 'function') {
		_createReceiverForPostMessage();
	} else {
		_createReceiverForFragmentPacket();
	}

};

ParentMessenger.prototype.sendMessage = function(message) {
	var that = this;
	if (!this._ready) {

		window.setTimeout(function() { that.sendMessage(message); }, 10);
		return;
	}
	this.packetHandler.send(message);
	return true;
};

Dsq.NewFrames = function(url) {
	this.url = url;
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype.init = function(onFailure) {
	var that = this;

	try {
		this.messenger = new ParentMessenger(this.url, Dsq.jsonData.integration.receiver_url, this.container, this.receive_callback);
	} catch(e) {
		if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
			onFailure();
		}
	}

	if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
		var iId = window.setInterval(function() {
			if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				return;
			}
			if (that.messenger._ready) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
			} else if (that.messenger._error) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				onFailure();
			}
		}, 10);
	}
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype._execute = function(method, args, callback) {
	var that = this;
	if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
		return false;
	}
	JsonRpc.execute(
		function(msg) { that.messenger.sendMessage(msg); },
		method,
		args || [],
		callback);
	return true;
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame = function(container, parent_post_id) {
	var that = this;
	this.container = container;
	this.parent_post_id = parent_post_id;

	var sendFunc = function(msg) {

		Dsq.Debug.log('Dsq.ReplyFrame.sendFunc');
		that.messenger.sendMessage(msg);
	};


	var postComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		Dsq.jsonData.posts[response.message.id] = response.message.post_meta;
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key]) {
			Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key] = response.message.user_meta;
		}


		var reply_position = (typeof(disqus_insert_wrt_sort) == 'undefined' 
			? (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reply_position ? -1 : null) 
			: (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? null : -1));
		
		if (response.message.post_meta.approved) {
			Dsq.Post.insert(response.message.post_meta.parent_post_id || reply_position, response.message.id, response.message.post_meta.message);
		}

		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onSuccess(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var postComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(response.message, 'Error');
		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onFailure(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var editComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);
		
		message.innerHTML = response.message;
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
	
	var editComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('Sorry, there was an error editing this comment.', 'Edit Error');
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	var getUserByEmail_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var msg = response.message;
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(parent_post_id);

		if (msg.username) {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'login', {
				'username': msg.username,
				'display_name': msg.display_name,
				'avatar_url': msg.avatar_url,
				'verified': msg.verified,
				'email': fields.email.value
			});
		} else {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'register');
		}
	};

	var validateAuth_onSuccess = function(response, auth_choice) {
		Dsq.Templates.postComment(parent_post_id, null, true, auth_choice);
	};

	var validateAuth_onFailure = function(response, auth_choice) {
		var pid = parent_post_id ? '-' + parent_post_id : '';
		var msg = response.message;

		if (auth_choice == 'register') {
			var fields = ['email', 'username', 'password'];

			for (var i = 0; i < fields.length; i++) {
				var field = fields[i];
				var errorDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-' + field + '-errors' + pid);

				if (msg[field]) {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = msg[field];
				} else {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = '';
				}
			}
		} else if (auth_choice == 'login') {
			Dsq.$('dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid).innerHTML = '<p>We couldn\'t log you in. Please verify your login.</p>';
		}
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.receive_callback = JsonRpc.createHandler(sendFunc, {
		'postComment.onSuccess': postComment_onSuccess,
		'postComment.onFailure': postComment_onFailure,
		'editComment.onSuccess': editComment_onSuccess,
		'editComment.onFailure': editComment_onFailure,		
		'getUserByEmail.onSuccess': getUserByEmail_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onSuccess': validateAuth_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onFailure': validateAuth_onFailure,
		'reload': function() { window.location.reload(); }
	});

	this.url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY +
		'?' + (new Date()).getTime() +
		'&f=scobleizer' +
		'&t=more_hardware_that_i_have_to_have_drobo' +
		'&ff=' + Dsq.Thread.ff +
		'&default_text=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_default_text) +
		'&ifrs=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css);
	if (this.parent_post_id) {
		this.url += '&parent_post=' + this.parent_post_id;
	}
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype = new Dsq.NewFrames(Dsq.ReplyFrame.url);

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.post = function(author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe) {
	this._execute('postComment', [author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.edit = function(post_id, message) {
	this._execute('editComment', [post_id, message]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.setState = function(parent_post_id, depth) {
	this._execute('setState', [parent_post_id, depth]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.getUserByEmail = function(email) {
	this._execute('getUserByEmail', [email]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.validateAuth = function(auth_choice, email, username, password) {
	this._execute('validateAuth', [auth_choice, email, username, password]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.authenticateFacebook = function(session, forum_url) {
	this._execute('authenticateFacebook', [session, forum_url]);
};

	Dsq.Facebook = function() {
	var that = this;

	var handleSessionData = function(session) {

		var forum_url = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;




		if (typeof disqus_facebook_forum != 'undefined') {
			forum_url = disqus_facebook_forum;
		}
		Dsq.frames.reply_0.authenticateFacebook(session, forum_url);
	};

	var onLogin = function() {
		FB.Connect.getSignedPublicSessionData(handleSessionData);
	};

	this.login = function() {
		FB.Connect.requireSession(onLogin, true);
	};
};
Dsq.Facebook = new Dsq.Facebook();


	






Dsq.Themes = {};

Dsq.Themes.narcissus = new function() {
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-form-area';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-textarea-wrapper';



	
	this.header = function() {
		var comments_count, total_posts, num_posts;
		var html = '';
		var missing_perm_tmpl;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.missing_perm) {
			missing_perm_tmpl = Dsq.Templates.missingPermissions();
			if (missing_perm_tmpl) {
				html += '<div class="dsq-missing-permissions">' + missing_perm_tmpl + '</div>';
			}
		}

		total_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.total_posts;
		num_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_posts;

		if (total_posts) {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL(total_posts, num_posts);
		} else {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION(num_posts);
		}

		html += ' \
		<div id="dsq-comments-title"> \
			<h3>' + comments_count + '</h3> \
		</div> \
		';

		html += ' \
		<div class="dsq-options"> \
			<span class="dsq-item-sort">'
				+ Dsq.Strings.SORT_BY + ' \
				<select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);"> \
					<option value="hot" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 4 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.POPULAR_NOW + '</option> \
					<option value="best" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 3 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.BEST_RATING + '</option> \
					<option value="newest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.NEWEST_FIRST + '</option> \
					<option value="oldest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 1 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.OLDEST_FIRST + '</option> \
				</select> \
				&nbsp; \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<span id="dsq-subscribe">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.subscribed
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.UNSUBSCRIBE + '</a>'
						: '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL + '</a>')
				+ '</span> \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-rss" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png" alt="" /> \
				<a href="http://scobleizer.disqus.com/more_hardware_that_i_have_to_have_drobo/latest.rss">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS + '</a> \
			</span> \
		</div> \
		';

		
		

		return html;

	};
	
	this.footer = function() {
		var html = '';

		html += Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
		
			html += Dsq.Templates.realtime();
			html += Dsq.Templates.showThreadSettings();
			html += Dsq.Templates.postBox();

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		


		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) {
 			html += ' \
				<div class="dsq-global-moderator-extras">'
					+ '<strong>shortname:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url
					+ '<strong>thread id:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.id
					+ '<strong>thread slug:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.slug
				+ '</div> \
			';
		}

		return html;
	};
	
	this.realtime = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			html += '<div id="dsq-realtime-options" class="dsq-options">'
					 + Dsq.Strings.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS + ' <strong id="dsq-realtime-status" style="text-transform: lowercase">' + Dsq.Strings.ENABLED + '</strong>. \
					 <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-toggle" style="text-transform: capitalize"></a> \
					</div>';
		}

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
			html += ' \
				<div style="display: none" id="dsq-realtime-alert" class="dsq-realtime-alert"><span id="dsq-realtime-queued"></span> <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-show"></a></div> \
			';
		}
		
		return html;
	};

	this.showThreadSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '<div id="dsq-thread-settings" class="dsq-thread-settings">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATOR_OPTIONS;
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showSettings(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.SETTINGS + '</a>';
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showModeratorActions(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>';
		if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled && Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.reportMissingReactions(); return false;">'
						+ Dsq.Strings.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS
						+ '</a>';
		}
		html +='</div>';

		return html;
	};

	this.postBox = function(post_id, use_fallback_iframe) {


		var html;
		var display_sharing_options = Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated;

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post) {
			return '';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.hasOwnProperty(Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain)) {
				display_sharing_options = false;
			}
		}
		
		if (post_id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];				
		}
		
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		var _requestUserInfo = function() {
			var html;



			var user_has_email = false;

			html = '<div class="dsq-request-user-info"> <!-- // If authenticated --> \
				<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT + '?ctkn=' + Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN + '" class="dsq-request-user-logout">' + Dsq.Strings.LOGOUT + '</a> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td rowspan="2">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '')
								+ '<img src="' + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR + '" width="48" height="48" class="dsq-request-user-avatar">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-name">'
								+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
									 ? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '">' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '</span>'
									 : (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_verified
											? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span>'
											: '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span>'))
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '') 
								+ Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username 
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
							+  (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && user_has_email ? ' <small>(<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.remoteAccountSettings(); return false;">change settings</a>)</small>' : '')
							+  (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <small>(<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/info/" target="_blank">change name</a> or <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/avatar/" target="_blank">picture</a>)</small>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-stats"> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count == 1 ? 'comment' : 'comments') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count == 1 ? 'like' : 'likes') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.points + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.points == 1 ? 'point' : 'points') + '</span> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		var _loginOptions = function() {
			var html;
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-authenticate"> \
				<p class="dsq-autheneticate-copy">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
					? Dsq.Strings.YOU_ARE_COMMENTING_AS_A + ' <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. ' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.LOGIN_BELOW + '.'
					: Dsq.Strings.REQUIRED + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.PLEASE_LOGIN_BELOW_TO_COMMENT + '.')
				+ '</p> \
				<ul class="dsq-login-buttons">'
					+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-disqus.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Facebook.login(); return false;"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-facebook.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-twitter.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL(); return false" ><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-openid.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_yahoo ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Yahoo.startYahooConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-yahoo.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
				+ '</ul> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {



				return '<div id="dsq-form-area" style="display:none"><div id="dsq-textarea-wrapper"></div></div>' + _loginOptions();
			} else {
				return '';
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<div id="' + (post_id 
			? 'dsq-reply-post-' + post_id
			: 'dsq-new-post')
		 	+ '" class="dsq-post-area"> \
			<div class="dsq-dc-logo"> \
				<a href="http://disqus.com/comments" target="_blank"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/disqus-logo.png"></a> \
			</div>'
			+ (post_id 
				? '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.REPLYING_TO + ' ' + userData.display_name + '</h3>'
				: '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT + '</h3>')
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated 
				? _requestUserInfo()
				: _loginOptions() )
			+ '<div id="dsq-form-area' + pid + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-textarea"> \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper" id="dsq-textarea-wrapper' + pid + '"></div> \
			</div>'
			+ (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated
			? ' \
			<div class="dsq-post-fields"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-name' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_name ? disqus_def_name : (Dsq.jsonData.session.name ? Dsq.jsonData.session.name : Dsq.Strings.NAME + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-website' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (Dsq.jsonData.session.url ? Dsq.jsonData.session.url : Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')" class="dsq-placeholder') + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" /></div></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-email' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_email ? disqus_def_email : (Dsq.jsonData.session.email ? Dsq.jsonData.session.email : Dsq.Strings.EMAIL + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"> \
							<div class="dsq-subscribe"> \
								<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.chooseSubscribe(' + post_id + '); return false" class="dsq-subscribe-menu"><span id="dsq-subscribe-select' + pid + '">' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post ? Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL : Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS) + '</span> <small>&#9660;</small></a> \
								<ul class="dsq-panel" id="dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid + '"> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(2, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL + '</a></li> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(0, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS + '</a></li> \
								</ul> \
								<input id="dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid + '" type="hidden" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post + '" /> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div>'
			: '')
			+ '<div class="dsq-post-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-sharing-options" ' + (!display_sharing_options ? 'style="display:none;"' : '') + '> \
					<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onfocus="document.getElementById(\'dsq-post-button' + pid + '\').focus();"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.SHARING_OPTIONS + ' <small>&#9660;</small></span></button> \
					<div class="dsq-panel"> '
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '"'
								  + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Twitter</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook
								&& (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.enabled === true ||
										(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'facebook'))
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Facebook</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Yahoo!</label> \
								</div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Tumblr</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Wordpress</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Movable Type</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
								  <label for="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' TypePad</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ '<div><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections/" target="_blank" class="dsq-configure-options">' + Dsq.Strings.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS + '</a></div>'
					+ '</div> \
				</div>'
				+ '<button type="button" class="dsq-button" id="dsq-post-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, false)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.POST_AS + ' '
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					? Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					: Dsq.Strings.GUEST)
				+ '</span></button>'
				+ (post_id
					? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button" id="dsq-cancel-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.CANCEL + '</span></button>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
			+ '</div>' // end dsq-form-area
		+ '</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};




	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-append-post-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		html = ' \
		<table> \
			<tr> \
				<td id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-avatar" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
					<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
					? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
					: '')
				+ '</a> \
				</td> \
				<td class="dsq-comment-header-meta"> \
		';

		
		return html;
	};
	
	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var html;
		var parent_display_name = '';
		
		if(_meta.parent_post_id) {

			var _parent_meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[_meta.parent_post_id];

			if (_parent_meta) {
				var parentUserData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_parent_meta.user_key];
				parent_display_name = parentUserData.display_name;
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png" class="dsq-moderator-star" title="Moderator" /> \
		<span class="dsq-comment-header-time"><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')" title="Permalink">' + (_meta.is_realtime ? Dsq.Strings.JUST_NOW : _meta.date) + '</a></span> '
		+ (_meta.parent_post_id && parent_display_name
			? '<a href="#comment-' + _meta.parent_post_id + '" title="Jump to comment">in reply to ' + parent_display_name + '</a>'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		<td id="dsq-like-pts-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-comment-header-likes">'
		+ (_meta.points
			? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		</tr> \
		</table> \
		';
		return html;
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		var html = '';
		return html;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed || !_meta.approved) { return ''; }
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
					? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.moderateOptions(' + post_id+ '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>'
					: '')
				+ '<a href="#" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG + '</a> \
			</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right">'
				+ (_meta.votable 
					? '<span id="dsq-like-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-like">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1)" >Like</button>'
						: 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;')
					+ '</span>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-post-edit" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + ')" >' + Dsq.Strings.EDIT + '</button>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<span class="dsq-comment-footer-reply" id="dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-comment-footer-reply-tab">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button><span></span> \
					</span>'
					: '')
			+ '</div> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};



	
	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		var item = '<li class="dsq-comment dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-header"> \
			<table> \
			<tr> \
			<td class="dsq-header-avatar"> \
			';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'" class="dsq-avatar">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {

			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar92.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== ''
				? '</a>'
				: '')
			+ '</td>'
			+ '<td><cite class="dsq-comment-cite">' + reaction.author_name + '</cite> <span class="dsq-comment-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</span></td>'
			+ '<td class="dsq-comment-header-likes"></td>'
			+ '</tr></table></div>' // end dsq-comment-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header" \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-reaction-header-left">'
							+ '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png" />'
							+ ' From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
							+ 'via <a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? 'BackType' : 'UberVU') + '</a>'
						+ '</td>'
						+ '<td class="dsq-reaction-header-right">';

			if(reaction.retweets) {
				var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
				if (num_retweets > 0) {
					if (num_retweets == 1) {
						item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
					} else {
						item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');
						item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
						var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 3) ? 3 : num_retweets;
						item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);
						if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
							item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
								+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
						}
					}
				}
			}	
			item += '</td></tr> \
			</table> \
			</div>' // end dsq-reaction-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-body"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left"> \
				</div>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator 
					? ' \
					<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right"> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-hide-reaction" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + ')">Hide</button> \
					</div>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 id="dsq-reactions-title" class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-container"> \
			<table> \
				<tbody> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-tl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-tr"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-body"> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
								<div class="dsq-popup-title"> \
									<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" style="float:right" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)">Close</button>'
									+ content['header'] 
								+ '</div>'
								+ content['body']
							+ '</div> \
							<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
						</td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-bl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-br"></td> \
					</tr> \
				</tbody> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
	};



	
	this.chooseSubscribe = function(post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		menu.style.display = menu.style.display == 'block' ? 'none' : 'block';
		
	};
	
	this.setSubscribe = function(value, el, post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var input = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid);
		var select = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-select' + pid);
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		select.innerHTML = el.innerHTML;
		input.value = value;
		this.chooseSubscribe(post_id);
	};
	
	this.getFormFields = function(post_id) {

		var fields = {};
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var name = Dsq.$('dsq-field-name' + pid);
		var email = Dsq.$('dsq-field-email' + pid);
		var website = Dsq.$('dsq-field-website' + pid);
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid);
		var password = Dsq.$('dsq-field-password' + pid);

		fields = {
			'name': name,
			'email': email,
			'website': website,
			'username': username,
			'password': password
		}
		
		return fields;
	}
	
	this.validateFields = function(post_id) {
		
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) { return true; }
		
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		
		var nameField = fields.name;
		var websiteField = fields.website;
		var emailField = fields.email;
		
		websiteField.value = (websiteField.value == Dsq.Templates.placeholder['website']) ? '' : websiteField.value;
		
		var v = [{

			validator: Dsq.Validators.name,
			value: nameField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.email,
			value: emailField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.url,
			value: websiteField.value
		}];
		
		return Dsq.Validators.validate(v, function(e) { Dsq.Popup.popModal(e, 'Oops...') } );
	};
	
	this.checkExistingUser = function(post_id) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);		
		Dsq.Popup.loading(post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		}
	};

	this.validateAuth = function(el_clicked, post_id, auth_choice) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		var email = fields.email ? fields.email.value : '';
		var username = fields.username ? fields.username.value : '';
		var password = fields.password ? fields.password.value : '';
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		}
	};

	this.lightboxUpdateEmail = function(post_id, new_email) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		fields.email.value = new_email;
	};

	this.lightboxAuthenticate = function(post_id, auth_choice, auth_data) {
		var title, body;
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		if(typeof(auth_data) == 'undefined') {
			var auth_data = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		}

		d = auth_data;

		switch(auth_choice) {
			case 'register':
				var suggestedUsername = d.name.value.replace(/[^a-zA-Z0-9-]/g,'').toLowerCase();
			
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Register a <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';

				body = ' \
				<ul class="dsq-lightbox-register-reasons"> \
				<li>Verify your comments</li> \
				<li>Edit and delete comments</li> \
				<li>Manage comments and replies</li> \
				</ul> \
				';

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Email</td> \
							<td><input type="text" value="' + d.email.value + '" onchange="Dsq.Templates.lightboxUpdateEmail(' + post_id + ', this.value)" /><div id="dsq-email-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + suggestedUsername + '"/><div id="dsq-username-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /><div id="dsq-password-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'login\'); return false">Login instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button type="button" class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Register and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			case 'login':
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Login to your <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';
				body = '';
				
				if(d.avatar_url) {
					body += '<div class="dsq-lightbox-recognized"><table><tr>';
					body += '<td><img src="' + d.avatar_url + '" alt="" /></td>';
					body += '<td><span class="dsq-badge ' + (d.verified ? 'dsq-badge-verified' : 'dsq-badge-registered') + '">' + (d.verified ? 'Verified' : 'Registered') + '</span></td>';
					body += '<td>Hey <strong>' + d.display_name + '</strong>, is that you? Login below to claim this comment.';
					body += '</tr></table></div>';
				}

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username or Email</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (d.avatar_url ? d.username : '') + '" /></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password <a href="http://disqus.com/forgot" target="_blank">(cannot log in?)</a></td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'register\'); return false">Register instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button type="button" class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Login and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
		Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid).focus();
	};
	
	this.buttonsToRestore = [];
	this.setLoadingButton = function(btn, post_id) {
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		if (btn) {

			var loadingBtn = document.createElement('button');
			loadingBtn.id = btn.id + '-loading';
			loadingBtn.innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-lite.gif" alt="" /> ' + Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
			loadingBtn.className = btn.className + ' dsq-post-loading';
			btn.parentNode.appendChild(loadingBtn);
			btn.style.display = 'none';
			var cancelBtn = Dsq.$('dsq-cancel-button' + pid);
			if(cancelBtn) { cancelBtn.style.display = 'none'; this.buttonsToRestore.push(cancelBtn); }
			this.buttonsToRestore.push(btn);
		} else {

			var buttons = this.buttonsToRestore;
			for(var i = 0; i < buttons.length; i++) {
				buttons[i].style.display = 'inline';
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$(buttons[i].id + '-loading'));
			}
		}
		
	};

	this.postComment = function(post_id, el_clicked, force, auth_choice) {
		var append_id = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);

		if (Dsq.Templates.validateFields(post_id)) {

			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && !force &&
				((!Dsq.Utils.readCookie('skipped_auth') && !disqus_skip_auth && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled) || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post)) {
				Dsq.Templates.checkExistingUser(post_id);
				return false;
			}
			var params = [];
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
				params.push(fields.name.value,
					fields.email.value,
					fields.website.value);

				if (auth_choice == 'login' || auth_choice == 'register') {
					params.push({
						auth_choice: auth_choice,
						username: fields.username.value,
						password: fields.password.value,
						email: fields.email.value
					});
				} else {
					params.push(null);
				}

				params.push(null /* sharing options */, Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + append_id).value);
			} else {
				var service_checked = function(name) {
					var el = Dsq.$('dsq-sharing-' + name + append_id);
					return (el !== null && el.checked === true) ? '1' : '0';
				};
				params.push(null, null, null, null, {
					tw: service_checked('twitter'),
					fb: service_checked('facebook'),
					tr: service_checked('tumblr'),
					wp: service_checked('wordpress'),
					mt: service_checked('movabletype'),
					tp: service_checked('typepad'),
					yh: service_checked('yahoo')
				});
			}

			var frame = Dsq.frames['reply_' + (post_id ? post_id : 0)];
			frame.post.apply(frame, params);

			if (el_clicked) {
				Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
			}
			
			if (force) {
				Dsq.Utils.createCookie('skipped_auth', true);	
			}
			
		} else {
			return false;
		}
	};

	this.editComment = function(el_clicked, post_id) {
		var edited_message = Dsq.$('dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id).value;

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].edit(post_id, edited_message);
	};

	this.toggleEdit = function(post_id) {
		var body = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-body-' + post_id);
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);

		if (!Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id]) {


			message.style.display = 'none';
			if (Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {

				var edit_area = document.createElement('div');
				edit_area.id = 'dsq-edit-' + post_id;
				edit_area.className = 'dsq-edit dsq-textarea';
				edit_area.innerHTML = ' \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper"> \
					<textarea class="dsq-edit-textarea" id="dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id + '">' + message.innerHTML + '</textarea> \
				</div> \
				<div class="dsq-save-edit"> \
					<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.editComment(this, ' + post_id + ')" class="dsq-button-small">Save Edit</button> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id + '" style="display: none"></div> \
				';

				body.appendChild(edit_area);

				if (!Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id), post_id);
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].init();
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
		} else {

			message.style.display = 'block';
			Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id] = !Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id];
	};
	
	this.edit = function(el, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(post_id, button) {
		
		if(!this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

			if (Dsq.$('dsq-reply-post-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id);
				var container = Dsq.$('dsq-textarea-wrapper-' + post_id);
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] && container) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(container, post_id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].init(function() {

						Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id, true);
						Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id).innerHTML = '';

						var theme = (typeof disqus_frame_theme == 'undefined') ? 'default' : disqus_frame_theme;
						Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id), post_id, {theme: theme});

					});
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-append-post';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply-active';
			
		} else {

			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = '';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply';
		}
		
		this.stateReplyToggled[post_id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[post_id];

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie && this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

		}

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: post_id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]
		});
	};
	
	this.moderateOptions = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		if(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) { return false; }

		var html;
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-moderate-options"> \
		<table>'
		+ (_meta.email ? '<tr><td>Email</td><td>' + _meta.email + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ (_meta.ip ? '<tr><td>IP address</td><td>' + _meta.ip + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ '<tr> \
			<td>Actions</td> \
			<td><ul>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
				? '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
				: '')
			+ '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Delete Comment</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li> \
			</ul></td> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		html += '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
		
		return Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Moderate Options', post_id);
	};
	
	this.placeholder = {
		'class': 'dsq-placeholder',
		'name': Dsq.Strings.NAME,
		'email': Dsq.Strings.EMAIL,
		'website': Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')'
	};
	
	this.handlePlaceholder = function(evt, el, key) {
		var placeholder = Dsq.Templates.placeholder[key];
		var className = Dsq.Templates.placeholder['class'];
		
		switch(evt.type) {
			case 'focus':
				if(el.value == placeholder) {
					el.value = '';
					el.className = '';
				}
				break;

			case 'blur':
				if(el.value == '') {
					el.value = placeholder;
					el.className = className;
				}
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
	};
	
	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked) {

		var extra_params = '';

		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked);
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'more_hardware_that_i_have_to_have_drobo'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};
	
	
	this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {


		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
			}
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/vote.js'
				+ '?post_id='    + id
				+ '&vote='        + vote);
		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login('To rate, please log in');
		}
	};

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {

		Dsq.$('dsq-like-pts-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.';

		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;';
		}
	};




	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {
		var approved = response.message.post_meta.approved;

		if (parent_post_id) {
			Dsq.Post.toggleReply(parent_post_id);
		}

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
		
		if (approved) {
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		} else {			
			var unapproved_msg = 'Thanks for posting!\
	 Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.\
			';
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(unapproved_msg, 'Comment awaiting approval', post_id);
		}

		var sharing_results = response.message.sharing_results;
		var sharing_errors = '';
		for (var service in sharing_results) {
			if (sharing_results.hasOwnProperty(service) === true) {
				if (sharing_results[service].error === true) {
					sharing_errors += service + ', ';
				}
			}
		}

		if (sharing_results.facebook && sharing_results.facebook.callback) {
			FB.ensureInit(function() {
				FB.Connect.streamPublish('', sharing_results.facebook.attachment);
			});
		}

		if (sharing_errors !== '') {
			var message = 'Your comment was posted, but there were errors sharing with the following connections: ';
			message += sharing_errors.replace(/,\s$/, '');
			message += '<p><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections" target="_blank">Configure your connections here</a></p>'
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sharing options');
		}

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.postComment_onFailure = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
};




// TODO: It might be faster to use string methods to find all <li (...) </li> blocks and pass to Dsq.PostHandler manually.
Dsq.CommentsHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_post = Dsq.Templates.prependPost(post_id);
	var append_post = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(post_id);

	content = content.replace(Dsq.POST_RE, Dsq.PostHandler);
	Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter++;
	head = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContainer(post_id, head);
	return prepend_post + head + content + tail + append_post;
};

Dsq.PostHandler = function(str, h_head, post_id, h_content, h_tail, b_head, b_content, b_tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_header = Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader(post_id);
	var append_header = Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader(post_id);
	var prepend_body = Dsq.Templates.preBody(post_id);
	var append_body = Dsq.Templates.postBody(post_id);
	var append_footer = Dsq.Templates.postFooter(post_id);

	b_content = b_content.replace(Dsq.POST_BODY_RE, Dsq.PostBodyHandler);
	return h_head + prepend_header + h_content + append_header + h_tail + b_head + prepend_body + b_content + append_body + b_tail + append_footer;
};

Dsq.PostBodyHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	content = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContent(post_id, content);
	return head + content + tail;
};

Dsq.MediaPostHandler = function(str, args, offset, s) {
	args = args.split(' ');
	if(args[0] == 'seesmic') {
		return '<br />' + Dsq.Templates.mediaSeesmic(args[1], args[2]);
	}
	return '';
};


/**
 * Shorcuts
 */
Dsq.$ = function(element) { return document.getElementById(element); };
Dsq.$b = document.body || document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0];


/**
 * Dsq.Debug: Logging functions.
 */

Dsq.Debug = new function() {this.log=function(s){};this.profile=function(f){if(typeof f == 'function')return f();else return eval(f);};};


/**
 * Dsq.Urls: URL paths
 */
Dsq.Urls = new function() {
	this.LOGIN = '/profile/login/';
	this.LOGOUT = '/logout/';
	this.REPLY = 'http://scobleizer.disqus.com/more_hardware_that_i_have_to_have_drobo/reply.html';
	this.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE = '/AnonymousUser/';
	this.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR = 'http://media.disqus.com/images/noavatar92.png';
};
// Dsq.Urls

/**
 * Dsq.Validators: Validation for form fields
 */
Dsq.Validators = new function() {
	this.VALID_EMAIL_RE = /^[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*\@(([a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*)+\.[a-z]{2,}|([0-9]+\.){3}[0-9]+)$/i;
	this.name = function(name) {
		var error = false;

		if(typeof Dsq.Templates.placeholder !== 'undefined' &&
		   name == Dsq.Templates.placeholder.name) {
			error = true;
		}
		if(name.length <= 1) {
			error = true;
		}

		if(error) {
			return "Please enter a name to comment.";
		} else {
			return true;
		}
	};
	this.email = function(addr) {
		if(Dsq.Validators.VALID_EMAIL_RE.test(addr)) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please enter a valid email to comment.";
		}
	};
	this.url = function(addr) {
		if(!addr || addr.indexOf('.') != -1) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please check your website URL (this field is optional).";
		}
	};

	this.validate = function(bulk_validation, failure_callback) {
		failure_callback = failure_callback || function(e){ alert(e); };

		for(var i = 0; i < bulk_validation.length; i++) {
			v = bulk_validation[i];
			ret = v.validator(v.value);
			if(ret !== true) {
				failure_callback(ret);
				return false;
			}
		}
		return true;
	};
};

/**
 * Dsq.Utils: Generic utility functions.
 */
Dsq.Utils = new function() {
	this.ie = /msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent);
	this.ie7 = (document.all && !window.opera && window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true : false;
	this.ie6 = (!window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true: false;
	this.webkit = navigator.userAgent.indexOf('AppleWebKit/') >= 0;
	this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache = {};
	this._styleSheet = null;

	this.gebiFromElement = function(el, id, tag) {
		// This only method only helps IE.
		if(!this.ie) {
			return Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var cacheKey = el.id + '-' + tag;
			tag = tag || 'div';
			if(typeof this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] != 'undefined') {
				collection = this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey];
			} else {
				collection = el.getElementsByTagName(tag);
				this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] = collection;
			}

			for(var i = 0; i < collection.length; i++) {
				if(collection[i].id == id) {
					return collection[i];
				}
			}
			return null;
		}
	};

	this.execOnReady = function(func) {
		var node = document.createElement('document:ready');
		try {
			node.doScroll('left');
			func();
			node = null;
		} catch(err) {
			setTimeout(function() { Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(func); }, 10);
		}
	};


	// Courtesy of http://www.quirksmode.org/js/cookies.html
	this.createCookie = function(name,value,days) {
		if (days) {
			var date = new Date();
			date.setTime(date.getTime()+(days*24*60*60*1000));
			var expires = "; expires="+date.toGMTString();
		}
		else var expires = "";
		document.cookie = name+"="+value+expires+"; path=/";
	};

	this.readCookie = function(name) {
		var nameEQ = name + "=";
		var ca = document.cookie.split(';');
		for(var i=0;i < ca.length;i++) {
			var c = ca[i];
			while (c.charAt(0)==' ') c = c.substring(1,c.length);
			if (c.indexOf(nameEQ) == 0) return c.substring(nameEQ.length,c.length);
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.eraseCookie = function(name) {
		Dsq.Utils.createCookie(name,"",-1);
	};

	this.deleteNode = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			this.deleteChildren(node);
			if(typeof node.outerHTML != 'undefined') { node.outerHTML = ''; }
			else if(node.parentNode) { node.parentNode.removeChild(node); }
			delete node;
		}
	};

	this.deleteChildren = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			for(var x = node.childNodes.length-1; x >= 0; x--) {
				var childNode = node.childNodes[x];
				if(childNode.hasChildNodes()) { this.deleteChildren(childNode); }
				if(typeof childNode.outerHTML != 'undefined') { childNode.outerHTML = ''; }
				else node.removeChild(childNode);
				delete childNode;
			}
		}
	};

	this.findPos = function(obj) {
		var curleft = 0;
		var curtop = 0;
		if (obj.offsetParent) {
			do {
				curleft += obj.offsetLeft;
				curtop += obj.offsetTop;
			} while (obj = obj.offsetParent);
		}
		return [curleft,curtop];
	};

	this.getWindowSize = function() {
		var windowWidth = -1;
		var windowHeight = -1;

		if(typeof(window.innerWidth) == 'number') { //Non-IE
			windowWidth = window.innerWidth;
			windowHeight = window.innerHeight;
		} else if(document.documentElement) { // IE 6+ in 'standards compliant mode'
			windowWidth = document.documentElement.clientWidth || document.body.clientWidth;
			windowHeight = document.documentElement.clientHeight || document.body.clientHeight;
		}

		return [windowWidth, windowHeight];
	}

	this.getScrollPos = function() {
		var scrollWidth, scrollTop;

		if(document.documentElement && (document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.documentElement.scrollWidth)) {
			scrollWidth = document.documentElement.scrollWidth;
			// IE is weird here.  If no doctype is provided, document.body.scrollTop is 0,
			// otherwise document.documentElement.scrollTop is 0.
			scrollTop = document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.body.scrollTop;
		} else if(document.body.scrollTop && document.body.scrollWidth) {
			scrollWidth = document.body.scrollWidth;
			scrollTop = document.body.scrollTop;
		}

		return [scrollWidth, scrollTop];
	}

	this.addEventListener = function(instance, eventName, listener) {
		var listenerFn = listener;
		if (instance.addEventListener) {
			instance.addEventListener(eventName, listenerFn, false);
		} else if (instance.attachEvent) {
			listenerFn = function() {
				listener(window.event);
			};
			instance.attachEvent("on" + eventName, listenerFn);
		} else {
			throw new Error("Event registration not supported");
		}
		return {
			instance: instance,
			name: eventName,
			listener: listenerFn
		};
	};

	this.removeEventListener = function(event) {
		var instance = event.instance;
		if (instance.removeEventListener) {
			instance.removeEventListener(event.name, event.listener, false);
		} else if (instance.detachEvent) {
			instance.detachEvent("on" + event.name, event.listener);
		}
	};

	this.fixIframesIE = function(id) {
		var disqusThread = Dsq.$(disqus_container_id);
		var iframes = disqusThread.getElementsByTagName('iframe');

		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-content');
		}

		for(i = 0; i < iframes.length; i++) {
			if (container) {
				iframes[i].style.width = container.offsetWidth;
			}
		}
	};

	this.getElementsByClassName = function(oElm, strTagName, strClassName) {
	/* Credit: Jonathan Snook [http://www.snook.ca/jonathan], Robert Nyman [http://www.robertnyman.com] */
		var arrElements = (strTagName == "*" && oElm.all)? oElm.all : oElm.getElementsByTagName(strTagName);
		var arrReturnElements = new Array();
		strClassName = strClassName.replace(/\-/g, "\\-");
		var oRegExp = new RegExp("(^|\\s)" + strClassName + "(\\s|$)");
		var oElement;
		for(var i = 0; i < arrElements.length; i++) {
			oElement = arrElements[i];
			if(oRegExp.test(oElement.className)) {
				arrReturnElements.push(oElement);
			}
		}
		return (arrReturnElements);
	};

	this.postToUrl = function(url, post_data, opt_redirect) {
		var form = document.createElement('form');
		var iframe_container = document.createElement('div');
		var id = 'dsq-temp-iframe-' + (new Date()).getTime();

		form.method = 'POST';
		form.action = url;
		if (!opt_redirect) {
			form.target = id;
		}
		iframe_container.innerHTML = '<iframe style="display:none" name="' + id + '" id="' + id + '"></iframe>';

		for(var key in post_data) {
			if(post_data.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var input = document.createElement('input');
				input.name = key;
				input.type = 'hidden';
				input.value = post_data[key];

				form.appendChild(input);
			}
		}

		Dsq.$b.appendChild(iframe_container);
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(form);
		form.submit();
	};

	// Strips integer id from id of element in the form ('some-id-###')
	this.extractId = function(e) {
		var chunks = e.id.split('-');
		if(chunks.length <= 1) {
			return 0;
		} else {
			var retval = parseInt(chunks[chunks.length-1]);
			return !isNaN(retval) ? retval : null;
		}
	};

	this.getStyle = function(el, styleProp) {
		if(el.currentStyle) {
			var y = el.currentStyle[styleProp];
		} else if(window.getComputedStyle) {
			var y = document.defaultView.getComputedStyle(el, null).getPropertyValue(styleProp);
		}

		if(y == 'transparent' || y == '') {
			this.getStyle(el.parentNode, styleProp);
		} else {
			return y;
		}
	};

	this.execScript = function(url, append_qs, container) {
		var script = document.createElement('script');
		append_qs = typeof append_qs == 'undefined' ? true : append_qs;
		container = container || Dsq.container;

		if(append_qs) {
			var j = (url.indexOf('?') >= 0) ? '&' : '?';
			url += j + (new Date()).getTime();
		}
		script.type = 'text/javascript';
		script.charset = 'UTF-8';
		script.src = url;
		container.appendChild(script);
		return script;
	};

	this.pluralize = function(num, singular, plural) {
		return (num != 1) ? plural || 's' : singular || '';
	};

	this.getRequestParams = function(queryString /* optional */) {
		var pairs, tuple;
		var params = {};

		queryString = queryString || window.location.search.substring(1);
		pairs = queryString.split('&');

		for (var i = 0, pair; pair = pairs[i]; i++) {
			tuple = pair.split('=');
			params[tuple[0]] = (tuple[1] || true);
		}

		return params;
	};

	this.addCssRule = function(selector, styleText, index) {
		var stylesheet;
		index = index || 0;

		if(!this._styleSheet) {
			var styleEl = document.createElement('style');
			document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(styleEl);
			this._styleSheet = styleEl.sheet;
			if(!this._styleSheet) {
				// IE does not like our newly created stylesheet.
				this._styleSheet = document.styleSheets[document.styleSheets.length-1];
			}
		}
		stylesheet = this._styleSheet;

		if(stylesheet.insertRule) {
			var ruleText = selector + ' { ' + styleText + ' }';
			if(index == -1) {
				index = stylesheet.cssRules.length;
			}
			stylesheet.insertRule(ruleText, index);
		} else if(stylesheet.addRule) {
			stylesheet.addRule(selector, styleText, index);
		}
	};

	this.forEachIn = function(obj, callback) {
		for(var key in obj) {
			if(obj.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				callback(key, obj[key]);
			}
		}
	};

	this._interpolateGlobalContext = {
		// values that get used a lot and are global to the request
		'profile_url': Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE,

		'disqus_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url,
		'media_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url,
		'request_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.username,
		'request_display_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username,
		'forum_name': Dsq.jsonData.forum.name
	};

	this.renderFromContextStack = function(key, contexts) {
		// Returns the first instance of `key` in the array of objects `contexts` or else ''
		for (var i=0; i<contexts.length; i++) {
			if (contexts[i][key] !== undefined) {
				return String(contexts[i][key]);
			}
		}
		throw new Error('key ' + key + ' not found in context');
	};

	var that = this;
	this.interpolate = function(fmt, opt_localContext) {
		// Interpolate `fmt` named-format string with an assumed global context.
		// Based on `interpolate` in django.views.i18n
		var contextStack = [opt_localContext || {}, that._interpolateGlobalContext];
		return fmt.replace(/%\(\w+\)s/g, function(match){
			return that.renderFromContextStack(match.slice(2,-2), contextStack);
		});
	};

	this.stripTags = function(s) {
		// Removes HTML tags from `s`
		return s.replace(/(<([^>]+)>)/g,"");

	};

	this.assert = function(b) {
		if (!b) {
			throw new Error('Assertion error.');
		}
	};

};
// Dsq.Utils

/**
 * Dsq.Popup: Popup helper functions.
 */
Dsq.Popup = new function() {
	this.timeHide = new Array();
	this.timeShow = new Array();
	this.activePopup = {};
	this.profileCache = {};
	this.statusCache = {};

	this.showTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the hide timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeHide[post_id]);

		// start the timer
		if(!Dsq.Popup.profileIsOn && !Dsq.Thread.adminIsOn) {
			this.timeShow[post_id] = setTimeout("Dsq.Popup.popProfile(\"" + post_id + "\")", 400);
		}
	};

	this.hideTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the show timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeShow[post_id]);
	};

	this.updateProfile = function(username) {
		// Callback from /embed/profile.js
		if (this.statusCache[username]) {
			var statusEl = Dsq.$('dsq-profile-status-' + username);
			statusEl.innerHTML = this.statusCache[username];
			statusEl.style.display = 'block';
		}

		if (this.profileCache[username]) {
			var _cache = this.profileCache[username];

			var _genhtml = function(text) { return '<span><big>' + text + '</big></span>'; };
			var _no_comments = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS(_cache.comments_count));
			var _no_likes = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_LIKES(_cache.likes_count));
			var _no_points = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_POINTS(_cache.points));

			var statsEl = Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + username);
			statsEl.innerHTML = '';

			if (Dsq.jsonData.users[username].registered) {
				statsEl.innerHTML = _no_comments + _no_likes;
			}
			statsEl.innerHTML += _no_points;

			var activeSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.active_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.active_sites[i];
				activeSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (activeSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = activeSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = 'This site.';
			}

			var moderatedSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.moderated_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.moderated_sites[i];
				moderatedSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (moderatedSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + username).innerHTML = moderatedSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + username).innerHTML = '';
			}
		}

		// Reposition popup after full HTML is rendered
		if(Dsq.Popup.activePopup && Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el) {
			Dsq.Popup.initPopup(Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.type);
		}

	};

	this.showCookieMsgs = function() {
		var title = '';
		var message = '';
		var numAlerts = 0;

		Dsq.Utils.forEachIn(Dsq.jsonData.cookie_messages, function(k, v) {
			if (!v) return;

			switch(k) {
				// Cookie: Twitter
				case 'post_twitter':
					if (v === 'error') {
						title = 'Twitter Error!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-error">Oops, we couldn\'t tweet this comment. Please check your <a href="http://disqus.com/account/services">account settings</a>.</li>';
					} else {
						var _msg = v.split(':');
						title = 'Tweeted!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-success">Your comment was successfully tweeted. <a href="http://twitter.com/' + _msg[0] + '/status/' + _msg[1] + '">Click here to view the tweet</a>.</li>';
					}
					break;
				// Cookie: Unapproved Post
				case 'post_not_approved':
					title = 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-not-approved">Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.</li>';
					break;
				// Cookie: Profile Found
				case 'post_has_profile':
					title = 'Use your existing commenter profile';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-has-profile">You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a></li>';
					break;
				case 'user_created':
					var _data = v.split(':');
					title = 'Profile created!';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-user-created">You have just created a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, the best way to claim, manage, and track your comments all over the web. \
					<br /><br />A confirmation is being sent to <strong>' + _data[1] + '</strong>. Please check for this email in order to verify your profile. \
					<ul class="dsq-list-tick"> \
						<li>Your username is <strong>' + _data[0] +'</strong>. <a href="http://disqus.com/people/' + _data[0] + '/" target="_blank">Click here to view your public profile</a>.</li> \
						<li>Be sure to set your profile picture, as well as connect your <span class="dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> and <span class="dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> accounts. <a href="http://disqus.com/account/" target="_blank">Click here for account settings</a>.</li> \
					</ul> \
					</li>'
					break;
				default:
					break;
			}
			numAlerts++;
		});

		if(numAlerts > 1) {
			message = '<ul class="dsq-list-bluebullet">' + message;
			message += '</ul>';
			title = 'Thanks for posting!';
		}
		if(numAlerts > 0) {
			if(typeof(disqus_cookie_msgs) == 'function') {
				disqus_cookie_msgs(message, title);
			} else {
				Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
			}
		}
	};

	this.helpBadges = function(post_id) {
		var html = ' \
			<ul class="dsq-popup-help"> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile with a confirmed email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, but has not yet confirmed his or her email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span> is not logged in with any account and has not claimed his or her comments.</li> \
				<li class="dsq-help-otheraccts">Other accounts</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> is using his or her Facebook profile via Facebook Connect.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> is using his or her Twitter profile via Twitter Sign-in.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-openid">OpenID</span> is using his or her OpenID.</li> \
			</ul> \
		';

		this.popModal(html, 'Help: Types of Commenters', post_id);
		return;
	};

	this.permalink = function(post_id) {
		var header = 'Link to this comment';
		var body = '<strong>You are anchored to</strong>:<br />' + document.location.protocol + '//' + document.location.host + document.location.pathname + document.location.search + '#comment-' + post_id;

		this.popModal(body, header, post_id);
	};

	this.login = function(header, body) {
		var h = header || 'Login or Register';
		var b = body || '';
		b += Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: 'dsq-popup-login'});
		b += '</iframe>'; // HACK: Sometimes there is something funky with the IFRAME SRC that causes no end tag
		this.popModal(b, h, null, true, 'dsq-popup-login');
	};

	this.blacklist = function(id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		var title = 'Add to Blacklist';
		var message = ' \
		Adding this person to the blacklist will block him or her from commenting on this site. Check the following types that you would like to add to the blacklist:'
		+ (userData['registered'] ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-username" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-username"><strong>Username</strong>: ' + userData['username'] + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ (_meta.email ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-email" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-email"><strong>Email address</strong>: ' + _meta.email + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ '<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
			<input id="dsq-blacklist-ip" type="checkbox" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-blacklist-ip-warning\').style.display=\'block\'"> \
			<label for="dsq-blacklist-ip"><strong>IP address</strong>: ' + _meta.ip + '</label> \
		</div> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p id="dsq-blacklist-ip-warning" style="display:none">	\
				Note: Blocking this person\'s IP address may also unintentionally prevent others, who share his/her IP address, from commenting on this site. \
				This may include people who are sharing the same computer, living in the same house, or using the same Internet provider. Only block an IP address as a last resort. \
			</p> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p style="text-align:center"><button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Post.blockUser(' + id + '); this.disabled=true; this.innerHTML=\'Just one moment...\'">Add to Blacklist</button></p> \
		';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
	};

	this.remoteAccountSettings = function() {
		var body = '';
		// Set up IFrame.
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/_auth/embed/remote_settings/';
		var attributes = {id: 'dsq-popup-account-settings'};
		if (typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}

		body = Dsq.Templates._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
		this.popModal(body, 'Account Settings', null, true, 'dsq-popup-account-settings');
	};

	this.popModal = function(message, title, post_id, use_listener, extra_classes) {
		var container = document.createElement('div');
		var header, body;

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);

		if(typeof(title) == 'undefined') { title = ''; }
		if(typeof(use_listener) == 'undefined') { use_listener = true; }

		if(post_id) {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message-' + post_id;
		} else {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message';
		}

		header = title;
		body = message;

		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupModal(header, body);
		Dsq.Popup.initPopup(container, post_id, 'message', extra_classes);
		if(use_listener) {
			Dsq.Popup.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', Dsq.Popup._closePopup);
		}
	};

	this.popAlert = this.popModal;

	this.loading = function(post_id) {
		var title = Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
		var body = '<div style="text-align:center; padding: 5px 0 10px 0"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif" alt="" /></div>'
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
	};

	this.lightbox = function(message, title, post_id) {
		// Wraps Dsq.Popup.popModal

		var overlay = document.createElement('div');
		overlay.id = 'dsq-overlay';
		overlay.className = 'dsq-overlay';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(overlay);
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, post_id, false, 'dsq-lightbox');
	};

	this.popProfile = function(post_id, userKey) {
		var post = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id];
		if (post && post.has_been_anonymized) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('This message was anonymized by its previous owner.', 'Anonymized', post_id);
			return;
		}

		if(post_id) {
			userKey = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id].user_key;	
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][userKey];
		var elId = 'dsq-popup-profile-' + userKey;
		var container = document.createElement('div');

		if(this.activePopup.el) {
			this._closePopup(null, true);
			if(this.activePopup.linkClicked) {
				this.activePopup.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		container.id = elId;
		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupProfile(userKey);

		this.initPopup(container, post_id, 'profile');
		this.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._closePopup);

		if(!this.profileCache[userKey]) {
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/embed/profile.js'
				+ '?username=' + userKey
				+ '&anon=' + (userData['registered'] ? 0 : 1)
				+ '&f=' + Dsq.jsonData['request'].forum);
		} else {
			this.updateProfile(userKey);
		}
	};

	this._closePopup = function(e, force) {
		var activePopup = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el;
		var id = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id;
		var link = 'dsq-avatar-' + id; // HACK: Specific to profile toggle target

		// HACK: This event should be gone if there is no active popup.
		if(!activePopup) {
			return;
		}
		if(force || !Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, activePopup.id)) {
			// TODO: This is breaking iE?
			if(Dsq.Popup.popupListener) {
				Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Popup.popupListener);
			}
			
			// Kill overlay
			var overlay = Dsq.$('dsq-overlay');
			if(overlay) { Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(overlay); }
			
			try {
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(activePopup);
			} catch(e) {
				// HACK: IE6 throws an error when using deleteNode() with a node containing a <table> in the html.
				activePopup.parentNode.removeChild(activePopup);
			}
			Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {};
		}

		if(!force && Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Popup.activePopup.linkClicked = true;
		}

	};

	this.initPopup = function(popup, post_id, type, extra_classes) {
		popup.className = 'dsq-popup dsq-popup-' + type + ' ' + (extra_classes ? extra_classes : '');
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6 || Dsq.Utils.ie7) {
			// HACK: We can't modify the body before it's ready, so we need
			//       to use an IE-safe "DOMReady" workaround before loading
			//       our popup.
			Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(function() {Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup); });
		} else {
			Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup);
		}

		popup.style.display = 'block';

		var xPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[0] - popup.offsetWidth) / 2;
		var yPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[1] - popup.offsetHeight) / 2;

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
			yPos += Dsq.Utils.getScrollPos()[1];
		}

		popup.style.left = xPos + 'px';
		popup.style.top = yPos + 'px';

		Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {
			'el' : popup,
			'id' : post_id,
			'type': type,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};
	};

	this.isClicked = function(e, id) {
		var t = e.target || e.srcElement;
		while(t && t.parentNode) {
			if(t.id == id) {
				return true;
			}

			t = t.parentNode;
		}
		return false;
	};
};
// Dsq.Popup

/**
 * Dsq.Templates
 */
Dsq.Templates = new function() {
	/*
	 * Counter keeping track of the number of posts iterated over.
	 */
	this.postLoopCounter = 0;
	this.filters = {};
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-post-add';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-post-add';

	this.registerTemplate = function(name, func) {
		this['$$_' + name] = func;

		if(typeof DsqLocal.Filters != 'undefined'
		&& typeof DsqLocal.Filters[name] == 'function') {
			// Push filters to this.filters to unify code.
			this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
			this.filters[name].push(DsqLocal.Filters[name]);
		}

		this[name] = function() {
			var ret;

			if(typeof DsqLocal.Templates != 'undefined'
			&& typeof DsqLocal.Templates[name] == 'function') {
				ret = DsqLocal.Templates[name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(ret === undefined) {
				ret = this['$$_' + name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(this.filters[name]) {
				var args = [ret];

				args.push.apply(args, arguments);
				for(var i = 0; i < this.filters[name].length; i++) {
					ret = this.filters[name][i].apply(this, args);
				}
			}

			return ret;
		};
	};

	this.registerFilter = function(name, func) {
		this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
		this.filters[name].push(func);
	};

	/**
	 * Dsq.Templates.Filters
	 */
	this.Filters = new function() {
		this.commentContainer = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var classes = [];
			if(Dsq.jsonData.request.page > 1) {
				classes.push('dsq-append');
			}

			//
			// Extra classes used for custom themes
			//

			if(_meta.depth) {
				classes.push('dsq-comment-child', 'dsq-depth-' + _meta.depth, 'dsq-parent-is-' + _meta.parent_post_id);
			}


			//

			if(_meta.author_is_creator) {
				// TODO: We need to deprecate the "special" class since it is not properly prefixed.
				classes.push('special', 'dsq-special');
			}
			if(_meta.author_is_moderator) {
				classes.push('dsq-moderator');
			}
			classes.push(['dsq-odd', 'dsq-even'][Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter % 2]);

			s = s.substring(0, s.lastIndexOf('>'));
			return s + ' class="dsq-comment ' + classes.join(' ') + '" style="margin-left:' + _meta.depth*30 + 'px">';
		};

		this.commentContent = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			if (_meta.killed) {
				return '<em>Comment removed.</em>';
			} else if (!_meta.approved) {
				return '<em>This comment was flagged for review.</em>';
			}

			s = s.replace(Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE, Dsq.MediaPostHandler);
			return s;
		};
	};

	//
	// Thread
	//
	// TODO: These need to be stripped of all Django template tags.

	this.authPost = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			return '';
		}
		var result = [];
		result = result.concat([
				'<div id="dsq-auth"',
						Dsq.jsonData.integration.reply_position ? 'class="dsq-auth-bottom"' : '',
						'>',
					'<div class="dsq-by">',
						'<a href="http://disqus.com" target="_blank">',
							(Dsq.jsonData.integration.disqus_logo ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/by-disqus.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">') :
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/dsq-button-120x19.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">')
							),
						'</a>',
					'</div>',
					'<div class="dsq-auth-header">',
						'<h3 id="dsq-add-new-comment" class="dsq-h3-addcomment">',
								Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT,
						'</h3>',
						'<div id="dsq-login">',
						(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
								? '<p class="dsq-login-message" id="dsq-login-message">You are commenting as a <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. You may select one to log into:</p>'
								: '')
		]);
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			result = result.concat([
							Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
								'<a id="dsq-login-toggle" href="%(disqus_url)s%(login_url)s?next=article:%(thread_id)s" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsq-profile-btn.png" title="%(log_into)s" alt="%(log_into)s"/></a>',
								{login_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGIN, thread_id: Dsq.jsonData.thread.id, log_into: Dsq.Strings.LOG_INTO_DISQUS}
								),
							'&nbsp; ',
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ?
								'<div id="dsq-fbc-login" onlogin="DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin()" size="medium" background="light" length="short" style="display:inline; margin-right:7px"></div>' :
								''
							),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-twitter-login" class="dsq-twitter-login" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect();" style="display:inline; cursor: pointer"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/twitter-signin-short.png" style="margin-right:7px" /></div>', {}) : ''),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-openid-login" class="dsq-openid-login" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL();" style="display:inline; cursor:pointer;"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/openid-login-button.png"/></div>', {}
								) : '')
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
						'</div>', // dsq-login
					'</div>', // dsq-auth-header
					'<div id="dsq-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated" ',
						Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated ? 'style="display:block"' : '',
						'>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-pic">',
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">' +
																			'<img class="dsq-post-avatar" src="%(avatar_url)s" alt="" /></a>',
																			{avatar_url: Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR,
																			url: (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
																					 ? Dsq.jsonData.request.url
																					 : Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE) }),
						'</div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>', {url:Dsq.jsonData.request.url})
										  )
										: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(profile_url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>')
											)
									),
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">',
									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsqicon12.png" alt="%(logged_in_as)s"/>&nbsp',
											{logged_in_as: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username)})
										: ''),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="%(logout_from_disqus)s">',
											{logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN, logout_from_disqus: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('DISQUS')})
										: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'twitter')
												? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using Twitter (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
												 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
												: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'openid')
													 ? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using OpenID (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
													 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
													 : ''
													)
											)
									),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote ? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('<span class="logo-disqus">DISQUS</span>') : ''),
									'</a>',
								'</li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
		]);
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect) {
			result = result.concat([
					'<div id="dsq-fbc-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated">',
						'<div id="dsq-fbc-profilepic" class="dsq-authenticated-pic" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.ProfilePic" size="square" facebook-logo="true"></div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									'Logged in as <span id="dsq-fbc-name" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.Name" linked="true" useyou="false"></span>',
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">using Facebook Connect <a href="#" onclick="javascript:DisqusFbcParentController.logout();return false;">(Logout)</a></li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
				'</div>', // dsq-auth
				'<div id="dsq-toolbar-items">',
				'</div>'
		]);
		result = result.concat([
					//
					//
					//
				((!Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) ?
					// Needs to be translated:
					('<p id="dsq-no-anon-msg">Required: Please log into <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> ' +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? 'or connect with Facebook ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? 'or sign in with Twitter ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? 'or sign in using OpenID ' : '') +
					Dsq.Utils.interpolate('to comment on <strong>%(forum_name)s</strong>.</p>')) :
					''
				),
				'<div id="dsq-post-add"></div>',
				'<div style="margin:10px 0">',
				((Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media) ?
						'<a href="#" id="dsq-media-link" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, false, \'media\'); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.USE_MEDIA + ' <small>&#9660;</small></a>' :
						''),
				'</div>'
		]);
		return result.join('');
	};


	this.header = function() {

		var html = '\<h3 id="dsq-comments-count" class="dsq-h3-commentcount">\
	 <span id="dsq-num-posts">70</span> Comments\
	 &nbsp;\
	 <span class="dsq-item-feed">\
	 <a href="http://scobleizer.disqus.com/more_hardware_that_i_have_to_have_drobo/latest.rss"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png"></a>\
	 </span>\
	 </h3>\
	 <div id="dsq-options" style="margin:15px 0">\
	 <span class="dsq-item-sort">\
	 Sort by\
	 <select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);">\
	 <option value="hot" selected="selected">Popular now</option>\
	 <option value="best" >Best Rating</option>\
	 <option value="newest" >Newest first</option>\
	 <option value="oldest" >Oldest first</option>\
	 </select>\
	 &nbsp;\
	 </span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-cp"><a href="http://scobleizer.disqus.com/more_hardware_that_i_have_to_have_drobo/">Community Page</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-subscribe">\
	 <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle">\
	 <span id="dsq-subscribe">\
	 <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a>\
	 </span>\
	 </span>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-alerts">\
	 <p>Comments for this page are closed.</p>\
	 </div>\
		';

		

		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) { 
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-alert-message dsq-upgrade-message"> \
				<strong>Disqus upgrade available.</strong> Hi ' + Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username + ', this message is being displayed to you because you are a moderator of this site. <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-upgrade-message\').style.display=\'block\';this.style.display=\'none\';return false">Click here for details.</a> \
				<div style="display:none; margin-top:10px;" id="dsq-upgrade-message"> \
					A new theme is available with added features. <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/settings/' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url + '/?p=customize">To change your theme, click here</a> and choose the theme Narcissus. \
					If you do not upgrade, you are missing out on features such as: real-time commenting, new sign-in integrations, and an upgrade interface. \
					<strong>This message will automatically go away in one week.</strong> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			' + html; 
		}
		return html;
	};

	this.footer = function() {
		var html = Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.authPost();
		

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		

		return html;
	};

	this.pagination = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) { Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = ''; }
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.thread.paginate) { return ''; }

		//
		// TODO: num_paginator still uses the template tag for pagination, 
		// 		while append_paginator does it all in JavaScript.
		//		This should all be in JavaScript.
		//

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages > 1 && Dsq.jsonData.request.page < Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages) {
			html = ' \<a class="dsq-paginate-append-text" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this); return false">Show more comments...</a>\
	 <button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-paginate-append-button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this);">Load more comments</button>\
			';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = html;
			return '';
		} else {
			return '<div id="dsq-pagination" class="dsq-pagination">' + html + '</div>';
		}
	};

	this.trackbacks = function() {
		var html = '';

		if(typeof DsqLocal != 'undefined' && DsqLocal.trackback_url && DsqLocal.trackbacks) {
			var trackbacks = DsqLocal.trackbacks;
			var trackback_url = DsqLocal.trackback_url;
		} else {
			var trackbacks = [
			
			
			];
			var trackback_url = 'http://scobleizer.disqus.com/more_hardware_that_i_have_to_have_drobo/trackback/';
		}

		html += '<div class="dsq-item-trackback">Trackback URL&nbsp;&nbsp;<input class="dsq-trackback-url" onclick="this.select()" readonly="true" value="' + trackback_url + '"></div>';

		if(trackbacks.length) {
			html += '<ul id="dsq-references">'
			for(var i = 0; i < trackbacks.length; i++) {
				var trackback = trackbacks[i];
				html += '<li><cite><a href="' + trackback.author_url + '" rel="nofollow">' + trackback.author_name + '</a></cite> \
						<p class="dsq-meta">' + trackback.date + '</p> \
						<p class="dsq-content">' + trackback.excerpt + '</p></li>';
			}
			html += '</ul>';
			html = '<h3 class="dsq-h3-trackbacks">Trackbacks</h3>' + html;
		}

		return html;
	}

	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		/* Reaction HTML begins */
		var item = '<li class="dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-header-avatar">';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'">';
		} else {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="#" onclick="return false;">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {
			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar32.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png"/>'
			+ '</a></div>'
			+ '<cite><span>' + reaction.author_name + '</span></cite>'
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"><a class="dsq-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</a></span>'
			+ '</div><div class="dsq-reaction-body">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-footer">From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
			+ 'via <a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? 'BackType' : 'UberVU') + '</a>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator ? '&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;<a class="dsq-hide-reaction" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + '); return false;">Hide</a>' : '') + '</div></div>';

		if(reaction.retweets) {
			var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
			if (num_retweets > 0) {
				item += '<div class="dsq-reaction-retweets">';
				if (num_retweets == 1) {
					item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
				} else {
					item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');

					item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
					var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 15) ? 15 : num_retweets;
					item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);

					if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
						item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
							+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
					}
				}
				item += '</div>';
			}
		}

		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this.missingPermissions = function() {
		return '	<p>Comments for this page are closed.</p>\n';
	};

	//
	// Post
	//

	this.prependPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="comment-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-comment-reply-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-header-avatar" id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
				<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
				? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '</a>'
			+ '</div> \
		';
	};

	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];

		return ''
			+ (_meta.author_is_moderator
				? '<img class="dsq-mod-star" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/bullet-star.png" title="Moderator" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"> \
				<a id="dsq-time-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-time" href="#comment-' + post_id + '" title="Permalink">' + _meta.date + '</a> \
			</span>';
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		return '';
	}

	this.postBody = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Deprecate flagging conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		return ''
			+ (_meta.edited
				? '<p class="dsq-editedtxt">(Edited by a moderator)</p>'
				: '')
			;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Use media should be conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed) { return ''; }

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
				<div id="dsq-points-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-likedtxt">'
				+ (_meta.points
					? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.'
					: '')
				+ '</div>'
				+ '<ul class="dsq-comment-options dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.votable
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first dsq-rate" id="dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id + '">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Like</a>'
						: 'You liked this.') + '</li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-report' + (!_meta.votable ? ' dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '"><a href="#" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">Report</a></li> \
				</ul> \
				<ul class="dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first"><a href="#" id="dsq-reply-link-' + post_id +'" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(this, ' + post_id +'); return false;">Reply</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<li id="dsq-edit-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-edit-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="' + (!_meta.can_reply ? 'dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-more-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-more-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'more\'); return false">More <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media
					? '<li id="dsq-media-el-' + post_id +'" style="display:none"><a id="dsq-media-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'media\'); return false">Use Media <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '</ul>'
				+ '<div id="dsq-reply-bar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar" style="display:none"> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-items-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-items"> \
						</div> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-auth-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-auth"> \
							 \
								 \
								 	<a href="#" class="dsq-help dsq-reply-req-opt" title="You are commenting as a Guest. You may choose to log into an existing DISQUS Profile, your Facebook, Twitter or OpenID account to comment on Scobleizer" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Optional:</a> \
								 \
								<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/dsq-favicon-16x16.png" alt="" /> \
								<a id="dsq-reply-login-' + post_id + '" href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:18357775" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">Login</a> \
								 \
									&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img class="fb_login_image" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/images/fbconnect/login-buttons/connect_light_small_short.gif" alt="Facebook Connect"/> \
									<a href="#" onclick="FB.Connect.requireSession(DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin); return false;">Connect</a> \
								 \
								&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/twitter-signin-icon.png" alt="" /> \
									<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false">Sign-in</a> \
								 \
								 \
							 \
						</div> \
					</div> \
					<div id="dsq-reply-' + post_id + '"></div> \
			</div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Iframes
	//

	this._makeAttributes = function(attributes) {
		// Makes a tag attributes string out of an object.
		// Caller is responsible for making sure nothing needs to be escaped.
		var result = [];
		for (key in attributes) {
			result.push(' ' + key + '="' + attributes[key] + '"');
		}
		result = result.join('');
		return result;
	};

	this._frameGeneric = function(base_url, params, attributes) {
		if(typeof(disqus_callback_params) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_callback_params = '';
		}

		var default_params = {
			// TODO: These should be moved to Dsq.jsonData.
			'f'				: 'scobleizer',
			't'				: 'more_hardware_that_i_have_to_have_drobo',
			// Do we need encodeURIComponent here?
			'ifrs'			: encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css),
			'to_redirect'	: encodeURIComponent(window.location),
			'cbp'			: disqus_callback_params,
			'ff'			: Dsq.Thread.ff,
			'fc'			: Dsq.Thread.fc,
			'ac'			: Dsq.Thread.ac,
			'default_text'	: disqus_default_text
		};

		base_url += '?' + (new Date()).getTime();
		// Add params to default_params.
		if(params) {
			for(var key in params) {
				if(params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					default_params[key] = encodeURIComponent(params[key]);
				}
			}
		}
		// Build querystring.
		for(var key in default_params) {
			if(default_params[key] && default_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				base_url += '&' + key + '=' + default_params[key];
			}
		}

		return [
			'<iframe marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" hspace="0" vspace="0" frameborder="0"',
			(' allowtransparency="true" src="' + base_url + '"'),
			this._makeAttributes(attributes),
			'</iframe>'].join('');
	};

	this.frameLogin = function(opt_attributes) {
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/login.html';
		var attributes = opt_attributes || {};
		attributes['class'] = 'dsq-post-login';

		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameReply = function(post_id, extra_params, attributes) {
		// Returns the HTML for a reply iframe. Called by Dsq.Iframes.setReplyIframeToContainer
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY;
		var params = {
			'def_email'		: disqus_def_email,
			'def_name'		: disqus_def_name
		};
		if(extra_params) {
			for(var key in extra_params) {
				if(extra_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					params[key] = extra_params[key];
				}
			}
		}
		if(_meta) {
			params['parent_post'] = post_id;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			params['per_page'] = disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			attributes['class'] += '-authenticated';
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameEdit = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/edit.html';
		var params = {
			'p' : post_id
		};
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, {'class': 'dsq-post-edit', 'name': 'dsq-edit_' + post_id + '-frame'});
	};

	//
	// Menus
	//

	this.menuMore = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: "Remove post" button should hide menu.
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')">Link</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Profile</a></li>'
	+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
		? '	<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>' + (_meta.email ? '<li class="dsq-admin-email">' + _meta.email + '</li>' : '')
		+ '	<li class="dsq-admin-ip">' + _meta.ip + '</li> \
			<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>'
		+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
			? ' <li class="dsq-admin-edit"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
			: '')
		+ ' <li class="dsq-remove"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Remove Comment</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-report-spam"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-block-user"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li>'
		: '');
	};

	this.menuMedia = function(post_id) {
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(this, ' + post_id + ', \'seesmic\'); return false;">Record video</a></li> \
		';
	};

	this.dropProfile = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};


		var menu = '<li class="dsq-drop-showlnk"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Expand &#8663;</a></li>';
		var pointsMessage = '';
		if (userData['registered']) {
			pointsMessage = 'with ' + userData['points'] + ' points (more points are better).';
		}

		if (userData['is_remote']) {
			var domain = userData['remote_domain_name'];
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' is a ' + domain + ' user ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
			menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-' + domain.toLowerCase() + '">' + domain + '</span></li>';
		} else if (userData['registered']) {
			if (userData['verified']) {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a verified commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span></li>';
			} else {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a registered, but unverified, commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span></li>';
			}
		} else {
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has not claimed this commenter profile." onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()"><span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span></li>';
		}

		menu += _includeServices();
		return menu;
	};

	//
	// Popups
	//

	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-top"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-body" class="clearfix"> \
				<div class="dsq-popup-body-padding"> \
					<div class="dsq-popup-header"> \
						<a class="dsq-close-link" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/modal-close.png" alt="" /></a>'
						+ content['header']
					+ '</div>'
					+ content['body']
					+ '<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
				</div> <!-- padding --> \
			</div> <!-- body --> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-bottom"></div> \
		</div> \
		';
	};

	this.popupProfile = function(user_key) {
		var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(user_key, null);
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var html = '';
			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == 0
					? '<h4>Connections</h4><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li> \
					<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" title="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" /> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>'
				+ (i+1 == userServices.length ? '</ul>' : '');
			}
			return html;
		};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<table> \
				<tr> \
					<td> \
						<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><img class="dsq-popup-profile-avatar" src="' + userData['avatar'] + '" alt="" /></a> \
					</td> \
					<td> \
						<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user"> \
							<h3>' + userData['display_name'] + '</h3> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats" id="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + user_key + '">Loading...</div> \
						</div> \
					</td> \
				</tr> \
			</table> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-state"> \
				This is a&nbsp;<span class="'
					+ (userData['registered']
						? (userData['verified']
							? ' dsq-badge-verified'
							: (userData['is_remote']
								? ' dsq-badge-' + userData['remote_domain_name'].toLowerCase()
								: ' dsq-badge-registered')
							)
							: ' dsq-badge-guest') + '">'
			+ (userData['registered']
				? (userData['verified']
					? 'Verified'
					: (userData['is_remote']
						 ? userData['remote_domain_name']
						 : 'Registered')
					)
				: 'Guest')
			+ '</span>&nbsp;commenter profile.'
			+ '&nbsp;<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><strong>View more comments </strong></a>'
			+ (!userData['points']
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice">If this is you, <a href="http://disqus.com/profile" target="_blank">claim it now</a> to manage your comments.</p>'
				: '')
			+ ((userData['registered'] && !userData['verified'] && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username == userData['username'])) && !userData['is_remote'])
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice"><strong>Alert</strong>: You have not verified this account. <a href="http://disqus.com/verify">Verify it now.</a></p>'
				: '')
			+ '</div> \
			<div id="dsq-profile-status-' + user_key + '" class="dsq-popup-profile-status" style="display:none"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-snapshot"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td> \
							<div id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Most active sites</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
						<td>'
							+ _includeServices()
							+ '<div id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Moderator of</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupReblog = function() {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<cite><span>Reblog this comment</span></cite> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div id="dsq-reblog-form" class="dsq-reblog-form"> \
			</div> \
		';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupModal = function(title, message) {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<h3>' + title + '</h3> \
		';

		bodyHtml = message;

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.alertContent = function(name, post_id) {
		var alert = {
			'post_not_approved': {
				'title': 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator',
				'message': 'Thanks for posting. Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.'
			},
			'post_has_profile': {
				'title': 'Use your existing commenter profile',
				'message': 'You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> commenter profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a>'
			}
		};
		return alert[name] || false;
	};

	//
	// Actions
	//

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {
		// Update number of points
		Dsq.$('dsq-points-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.';

		// Update link text
		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.';
		}
	};

	this.subscribed = function(status) {
		var title, message;

		if(status) {
			title = 'Subscribed!';
			message = 'You have subscribed to this comment thread. New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox, where you may read and respond by email.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">Unsubscribe</a> \
			';
		} else {
			title = 'Unsubscribed';
			message = 'You have unsubscribed to this comment thread. New comments will no longer be sent to your email inbox.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a> \
			';
		}

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);

	};
	
	this.highlighted = function() {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('This comment has been highlighted.', 'Highlighted comment');
	};

	//
	// Media
	//

	this.mediaSeesmic = function(id, thumb) {
		return ' \
			<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_preview" class="dsq-seesmic-preview"><a href="http://www.seesmic.com/video/' + id + '" target="_blank" class="see_link">&nbsp;</a> \
				<div style="display:block;width:160px; height:120px; border:none; background-image:url(http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/' + thumb + ')"> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_hide" class="seePlayOverlay" style="display:none;"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',false)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/stopOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_show" class="seePlayOverlay"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',true)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/playOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; border:none; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			<div id="' + id + '_content" style="display:block; width:100%; padding-top:5px"></div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Callbacks
	//

	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(parent_post_id) {
		// Increment post count
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');
		
		if (num_posts) { 
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) { 
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
	};
};
// Dsq.Templates


/**
 * Dsq.Post
 */
Dsq.Post = new function() {
	this.openedMenu = {};
	this.menuEventListener = null;
	this.stateReplyToggled = {};
	this.stateEditToggled = {};
	this.stateRecordLink = {};

	/**
	 * Inserts a new post into the document.
	 *
	 * @param after_id {Number}	Insert a post before specified id.  If after_id
	 *							evaluates to false, then post in the front.  If
	 *							after_id is -1, post at the end.
	 */
	this.insert = function(after_id, id, message, author) {
		// Skeleton template from thread_posts.html.
		var skeleton = ' \
			<li id="dsq-comment-%(id)s"> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-header-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-header"> \
					<cite id="dsq-cite-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-cite"> \
						<a id="dsq-author-user-%(id)s" href="%(author_url)s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">%(author_name)s</a> \
					</cite> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-body-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-body"> \
					<div id="dsq-comment-message-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-message">%(message)s</div> \
				</div> \
			</li> \
		';
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var _user_meta = Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key];
		var markup = Dsq.Utils.interpolate(skeleton, {
			id: id,
			message: message,
			author_url: _user_meta.blog,
			author_name: _user_meta.display_name
		});
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		markup = markup.replace(Dsq.COMMENTS_RE, Dsq.CommentsHandler);
		div.innerHTML = markup;

		if (after_id === -1) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').appendChild(div);
		} else if (!after_id) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').insertBefore(div, Dsq.$('dsq-comments').firstChild);
		} else if (Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + after_id)) {
			// Get next node after "after_id", so we can insert before it.
			// If "after_id" is the last comment, the target node is the
			// last node.
			
			// var append_post_id = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(after_id).replace('<div id="','').replace('"></div>', '');
			var append_post_id = 'dsq-append-post-' + after_id;
			var node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			while (node = node.nextSibling) {
				if (!node || node.nodeType == 1) { // 1 == Node.ELEMENT_NODE
					break;
				}
			}
			if (!node) {
				node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			}
			node.parentNode.insertBefore(div, node);
		}
	};

	this.incrementPostCount = function() {
		
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');

		if (num_posts) {
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) {
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
	}
	
	this.outlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className += ' dsq-comment-outline';
		setTimeout("(function () { Dsq.Post.clearOutlineComment(" + post_id + ") })()", 3000);
	};
	
	this.clearOutlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className.replace('dsq-comment-outline', '');
	};

	this.showMenu = function(el, id, name) {
		var anchorPos = Dsq.Utils.findPos(el);
		var menu = document.createElement('ul');

		if(this.openedMenu) {
			if(this.openedMenu.linkClicked) {
				this.openedMenu.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		switch(name) {
			case 'more':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMore(id);
				break;
			case 'media':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMedia(id);
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}

		// Add menu to document body
		menu.id = 'dsq-menu-' + id;
		menu.className = 'dsq-menu';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(menu);

		// Position and show
		anchorPos[1] += 15;
		menu.style.left = anchorPos[0] + 'px';
		menu.style.top = anchorPos[1] + 'px';
		menu.style.display = 'block';

		// Set global reference
		this.openedMenu = {
			'el' : menu,
			'id' : id,
			'name' : name,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};

		// Set listener
		this.menuEventListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._hideMenu);
	};

	this._hideMenu = function(e) {
		var el = e.target || e.srcElement;
		var openedMenu = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el;
		var id = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.id;

		if(!id) {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link';
		} else {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link-' + id;
		}

		if(!openedMenu) {
			return;
		}

		if(!Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, openedMenu.id)) {
			openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Post.menuEventListener);
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(openedMenu);

		} else {
			// Hide the menu if a link was clicked inside the menu.  We can't
			// completely remove the menu until the onclick event on the link
			// fires, but the menuEventListener will prevent multiple menus
			// from polluting the DOM.
			if(el && typeof el.href != 'undefined') {
				openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el = null;
			}
		}

		if(Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Post.openedMenu.linkClicked = true;
		}
	};


	this.getUserServices = function(user_key, id) {
		if(!user_key && id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
			user_key = _meta.user_key;
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var userServices = [];

		// Keep a full list of supported services. This is the order they will display in the drop-profile.
		// Each service must have a corresponding case in _buildServiceUrl()
		var supportedServices = ['blog', 'twitter', 'facebook', 'tumblr'];

		function _buildServiceUrl(serviceName) {
			var data = userData[serviceName];
			var services = {
				blog:		function(d) { return d; },
				twitter:	function(d) { return d; },
				facebook:	function(d) { return d; },
				tumblr:		function(d) { return 'http://' + d + '.tumblr.com'; }
			};
			return services[serviceName](data);
		}

		for(var i = 0; i < supportedServices.length; i++) {
			if(userData[supportedServices[i]]) {
				var serviceUrl = _buildServiceUrl(supportedServices[i]);
				userServices.push({'name' : supportedServices[i], 'url' : serviceUrl});
			}
		}
		return userServices;
	}

	this.dropProfile = function(id) {
		var dp = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-profile-' + id);

		// IE6 needs JS to display/hide. All other browsers use CSS.
		if(dp) {
			if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) dp.style.display = (dp.style.display == 'inline') ? 'none' : 'inline';
			return false;
		} else {
			dp = document.createElement('ul');
		}

		dp.id = 'dsq-drop-profile-' + id;
		dp.className = 'dsq-drop-profile';

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) { dp.style.display = 'inline'; }

		var container = Dsq.$('dsq-header-avatar-' + id);
		dp.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.dropProfile(id);
		container.appendChild(dp);
	};

	this.dropProfileMore = function(el, id) {
		var hiddenItems = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-hidden-' + id);

		hiddenItems.style.display = 'inline';
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
	};

	this._updateReplyLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "reply / cancel" links based on state.
		var displayDict = {};

		if(id) {
			if(this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				el.innerHTML = 'Cancel';
				displayDict['media'] = 'inline';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'none';
			} else {
				el.innerHTML = 'Reply';
				displayDict['media'] = 'none';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'inline';
			}
		}

		for(var key in displayDict) {
			if(displayDict.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var	linkEl = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-el-' + id),
					spacer = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-spacer-' + id);

				if(linkEl) {
					linkEl.style.display = displayDict[key];
					if(spacer) spacer.style.display = displayDict[key];
				}
			}
		}
	};

	this._updateMediaLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "use media / cancel" links based on state.
		var appendId = (id) ? ('-' + id) : '';
		var link = Dsq.$('dsq-media-link' + appendId);

		if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			link.innerHTML = 'Cancel Media';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(link, id); return false; };
		} else {
			link.innerHTML = 'Use Media <small>&#9660;</small>';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.showMenu(link, id, 'media'); return false; };
		}
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(el, id) {
		// Create reply IFrame
		if (window.disqus_use_postmessage) {
			if (!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				// Create IFrame if it doesn't exist.
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-frame-' + id), id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].init();
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].setState(id, _meta.depth);
				}
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
			}
		} else {
			// DEPRECATED
			if(!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				// Reply toolbar
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id), id);
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Iframes.hideAllInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id));
				if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
					// HACK: Cancel media before canceling self.
					this.toggleMediaReply(Dsq.$('dsq-media-link-' + id), id);
				}
			}
		}

		this.stateReplyToggled[id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[id];
		this._updateReplyLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-reply-' + id); }

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[id]
		});
	};

	this.toggleMediaReply = function(el, id, xtype) {
		id = id || 0;
		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(!this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id, {xtype:xtype}, 'dsq-post-video');
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id);
		}
		this.stateRecordLink[id] = !this.stateRecordLink[id];
		this._updateMediaLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};

	this.edit = function(el, id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.frameEdit(id);
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-comment-message-' + id); }
	};

    this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
                Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
            }

            Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/vote.js'
                + '?post_id='    + id
                + '&vote='        + vote);

		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login(Dsq.Strings.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN);
		}
    };

	this.report = function(id, confirmed) {
		if(confirmed) {
			Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/more_hardware_that_i_have_to_have_drobo/post_report/', {'post_id': id});
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Thank you. This comment has been flagged for moderator attention.', 'Successfully flagged');
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$('dsq-post-report-' + id));
		} else {
			var title = Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT;
			var message = Dsq.Strings.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR + '? \
			<br /><br /> \
			<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.NO + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.NEVER_MIND + '</button>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + id + ', true);"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.YES + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT + '</button><br /><br />'
			+ Dsq.Strings.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION + '. \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, id);
		}
	};



	this.showAlert = function(id, msg) {
		var msgEl = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id);
		var alert = '<div class="dsq-comment-alert">' + msg + '</div>';

		msgEl.innerHTML = alert + msgEl.innerHTML;
	};

};
// Dsq.Post


/**
 * Dsq.Thread
 */
Dsq.Thread = new function() {
	this.fc = null;
	this.ff = null;
	this.ac = null;

	
	this.adminIsOn = false;

	
	
	

	this.hlComment = null;
	this.hlCommentClass = null;

	this.getNextComment = function(el) {
		var start_id = el.id;
		while(el = el.nextSibling) {
			if(el.id && el.id.indexOf('dsq-comment-') != -1 && el.id != start_id) {
				return el;
			}
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.getActiveCommentId = function() {
		if (document.URL.indexOf('#comment-') >= 0) {
			var anchor = document.URL.slice(document.URL.indexOf('#') + 1);
			return anchor.replace('comment-', '');
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.highlightAnchor = function() {
		var i = this.getActiveCommentId();
		if (i == null) return false;
		var id = 'dsq-comment-' + i;
		var hash = window.location.hash;

		// Toggle the hash incase the comment isn't available when the page loads
		// for WebKit-based browsers.
		if (Dsq.Utils.webkit) {
			window.location.hash = '';
			window.location.hash = hash;
		}

		this.hlComment = Dsq.$(id);
		// Adding this conditional guard pending #289
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlCommentClass = this.hlComment.className;
		this.hlComment.className += ' dsq-hl-anchor';

		setTimeout("Dsq.Thread.highlightClear()", 3000);
	};

	this.highlightClear = function() {
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlComment.className = this.hlCommentClass;
	};

	this.login = function(toggle) {
		// toggle id is #dsq-reply-login-[id]
		var postId;
		if(toggle.id.indexOf('dsq-reply-login') != -1) {
			postId = toggle.id.slice(16);
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + postId);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(toggle) {
			if(toggle.className == 'dsq-login-active') {
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(container, postId);
				toggle.className = '';
			} else {
				Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
				toggle.className = 'dsq-login-active';
			}
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
		}

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};


	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked, per_page) {
		// Use extra_params to pass any override parameters that we need to persist.
		var extra_params = '';

		// "Per page" can either be overriden by providing it as an argument
		// (per-call) or setting the disqus_per_page override variable (global).
		if(typeof per_page == 'undefined') {
			per_page = null;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined' && per_page === null) {
			per_page = disqus_per_page;
		}

		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}
		if(per_page !== null) {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + per_page;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			el_clicked.style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'more_hardware_that_i_have_to_have_drobo'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};

	this.sortBy = function(sort) {
		var disqus_script = document.createElement('script');
		var disqus_date = new Date();

		if (location.hash != '') {
			location.hash = '#disqus_thread';
		}

		if(typeof(disqus_url) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_url = disqus_href;
		}
		disqus_script.type = 'text/javascript';
		disqus_script.src = 'http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'more_hardware_that_i_have_to_have_drobo'
			+ '&sort='	+ sort
			+ '&title='
			+ '&'		+ disqus_date.getTime();

		Dsq.$('dsq-comments').innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif">';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(disqus_script);
	};

	this.subscribe = function(status, email) {
		// `status` is an int -- 1 to subscribe, 0 to unsubscribe
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || email) {
			// If authenticated user OR anonymous email provided

			if(email) {
				Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
			}

			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/subscribe.js'
				+'?status=' 	+ status
				+ '&slug='		+ 'more_hardware_that_i_have_to_have_drobo'
				+ '&email=' 	+ encodeURIComponent(email));

		} else if(!email) {
			// If anonymous user and no email has been provided yet, prompt for email

			var title = 'Subscribe to this comment thread';
			var message = ' \
				New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox! \
				<div class="dsq-subscribe-submit"> \
					<p><strong>Enter your email address below.</strong></p> \
					<input type="text" id="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
					<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1, Dsq.$(\'dsq-subscribe-email\').value)">Subscribe</button> \
				</div> \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
		}
	};

	this.showSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return;
		}

		/* The form has to be re-designed when more options will come out. */
		var html = 'Automatically close comments after <input size="3" id="dsq-thread-days-alive" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.days_alive + '" type="text" /> days. Existing comments will still be displayed.<br /><br />(Using 0 days will disable this feature)<br /><br />'
								 + '<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.updateDaysAlive();" class="dsq-button-small"><span>Save</span></button>'
								 + '<span id="dsq-thread-settings-status" class="dsq-options-status"></span>';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Settings');
	};

  this.showModeratorActions = function() {
      if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
          return;
      }

      var html = '<div class="dsq-moderate-options"><table><tr>' +
                 '<td>' + Dsq.Strings.ACTIONS + '</td><td><ul>';
      html += '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.toggleClosed(); return false;">' +
              (Dsq.jsonData.thread.closed ? Dsq.Strings.OPEN_THREAD : Dsq.Strings.CLOSE_THREAD) +
              '</a></li>';
      html += '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.toggleKilled(); return false;">' +
              (Dsq.jsonData.thread.killed ? Dsq.Strings.RESTORE_THREAD : Dsq.Strings.REMOVE_THREAD) +
              '</a></li>';
      html += '</ul></td></tr></table></div>' +
              '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate-threads/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
      Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, Dsq.Strings.MODERATE_OPTIONS);
  };

	this.updateDaysAlive = function() {
		  var days = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-days-alive').value;
		  var status = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-settings-status');
		  Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/update_days_alive.js', {days:days,thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
		  status.innerHTML = 'Saved!';
		  window.setTimeout(function() { status.innerHTML = ''; }, 1000);
	};

  this.toggleClosed = function() {
      Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/toggle_thread_closed.js', {thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
      window.setTimeout(function() { window.location.reload(); }, 500);
  };

  this.toggleKilled = function() {
      Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/toggle_thread_killed.js', {thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
      window.setTimeout(function() { window.location.reload(); }, 500);
  };
};
// Dsq.Thread

Dsq.Events = function() {
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var handlers = {};
	var getHandlers = function(event) {
		if (handlers[event] === undefined) {
			handlers[event] = [];
		}
		return handlers[event];
	};

	// Public
	// Value keys : postId, node, xtype
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED = 1;
	// Value keys : postId, opened
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED = 2;
	obj.fire = function(event, opt_value) {
		if (!event) {
			throw new Error('Unknown event');
		}
		var value = opt_value || {};
		for (var i=0; i<getHandlers(event).length; i++) {
			getHandlers(event)[i](value);
		}
	};
	obj.addHandler = function(event, callback) {
		getHandlers(event).push(callback);
	};

	return obj;
}();

/**
 * Dsq.Realtime
 */
Dsq.Realtime = new function() {
	var initialized = false;
	var interval = null;
	var last_checked = Dsq.jsonData.request.timestamp;
	var new_posts = [];
	var ongoing_request = false;
	var prev_script = null;

	function updateNewPostCount() {
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-alert').style.display = new_posts.length ? 'block' : 'none';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-queued').innerHTML = new_posts.length
		+ ' new '
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, 'comment', 'comments')
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, ' was', ' were')
		+ ' just posted.';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.SHOW + ')';
	}

	function insertNewPosts() {
		var post_id = null;
		var after_id = Dsq.$('dsq-sort-select').value === 'oldest' ? -1 : null;

		for (var i=0; i<new_posts.length; i++) {
			post_id = new_posts[i];
			Dsq.Post.insert(after_id, post_id, Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id].message);
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		}
		new_posts = [];
	}

	this.enableInterval = function() {
		interval = setInterval(Dsq.Realtime.check, Dsq.jsonData.context.realtime_speed);
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.ENABLED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.PAUSE + ')';
	}

	this.disableInterval = function() {
		if (interval) {
			clearInterval(interval);
			interval = null;
		}
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.PAUSED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.RESUME + ')';
	}

	this.toggleInterval = function() {
		if (!interval) {
			Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
		} else {
			Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
		}
		return false;
	}

	this.initialize = function() {
		if (!initialized) {
			initialized = true;
			Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').onclick = this.toggleInterval;
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').onclick = this.show;
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
			if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.realtime_paused) {
				Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
			} else {
				Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
			}
		}
	}

	this.show = function() {
		insertNewPosts();
		updateNewPostCount();
		return false;
	}

	this.check = function() {
		if (!ongoing_request && Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			if (prev_script) {
				prev_script.parentNode.removeChild(prev_script);
			}
			ongoing_request = true;
			prev_script = Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/18357775/realtime.js?timestamp=' + last_checked);
		}
	};

	this.update = function(timestamp, posts, users) {
		ongoing_request = false;
		last_checked = timestamp;

		if (users) {
			for (var user_id in users) {
				if (users.hasOwnProperty(user_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id] = users[user_id];
					}
				}
			}
		}

		if (posts) {
			for (var post_id in posts) {
				if (posts.hasOwnProperty(post_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] = posts[post_id];
						new_posts.push(post_id);
					}
				}
			}

			if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				insertNewPosts();
			} else {
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
		}
	};

}();

// DEPRECATED
Dsq.Iframes = function() {
	// Different style of object from the above. Hoping to switch to this for some reason.
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var showIframeInContainer = function(container, id, markup) {
		// Look through container for iframes, hiding them, except show one that matches id
		// If none of them matched id, create a new iframe using markup and insert it.
		// Returns the iframe node if and only if it was newly created.
		var found = false;
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				if (child.id == id) {
					child.style.display = 'block';
					found = true;
				} else {
					child.style.display = 'none';
				}
			}
		}
		if (found) {
			return;
		}
		// The iframe wasn't found, so construct it and add it to the container.
		// Don't use innerHTML because it might reload iframes
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		div.innerHTML = markup;
		var iframe = div.childNodes[0];
		div.removeChild(iframe);
		container.appendChild(iframe);
		return iframe;
	};

	// Public
	obj.makeReplyIframeId = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var id = 'dsq-post-add-iframe';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			id += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			id += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return id;
	};
	obj.makeLoginIframeId = function(opt_postId) {
		if (!opt_postId) {
			return 'dsq-login-iframe';
		}
		return 'dsq-login-iframe-' + opt_postId;
	};
	obj.makeReplyIframeName = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var name = 'dsq-reply-frame';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			name += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			name += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return name;
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId, opt_extraParams, opt_className) {
		// Construct the id so we can check if it's already present.
		// Hide any other iframes we find, and show this one if it's found.
		var params = opt_extraParams || {};
		// use xtype in the id and name so we can distinguish media replies from text replies:
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeId(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var name = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeName(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var attributes = {
			'id': id,
			'name': name,
			'class': opt_className || 'dsq-post-reply'
			};
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameReply(opt_postId, opt_extraParams, attributes);
		var iframe = showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
		// It was newly created
		if (iframe) {
			Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED, {
				postId: opt_postId,
				node: iframe,
				xtype: params.xtype
			});
		}
	};
	obj.showLoginIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId) {
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeLoginIframeId(opt_postId);
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: id});
		showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed = function(container, opt_postId) {
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			obj.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, opt_postId);
		} else {
			obj.hideAllInContainer(container);
		}
	};
	obj.hideAllInContainer = function(container) {
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				child.style.display = 'none';
			}
		}
	};

	return obj;
}();

Dsq.Twitter = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.startTwitterConnect = function() {
		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=400';
		that._twitterWindow = window.open(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/twitter/begin/', 'twitterWindow', popupParams);
		that._twitterInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeTwitterConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeTwitterConnect = function() {
		if (that._twitterWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._twitterInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.Yahoo = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.startYahooConnect = function() {
		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=400';
		that._yahooWindow = window.open(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/yahoo/begin/', 'yahooWindow', popupParams);
		that._yahooInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeYahooConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeYahooConnect = function() {
		if (that._yahooWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._yahooInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.OpenID = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.requestURL = function() {
		var message = '<table class="dsq-openid-form"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;" rowspan="2"><img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url + '/images/openid-icon-100x100.png" /></td>';
		message += '<td><label for="dsq-openid-url">OpenID URL:</label></td><td><input type="text" id="dsq-openid-url" /></td></tr>';
		message += '<tr><td><label for="dsq-openid-username">Display name:</label></td><td><input type="text" id="dsq-openid-username" /></td></tr>';
		message += '<tr><td class="dsq-openid-submit" colspan="3"><input type="button" value="Sign in" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.startConnect();" /></td></tr>';
		message += "</table>";

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sign in using OpenID');
	};

	this.startConnect = function() {
		var isblank = function(str) {
			return /^\s*$/.test(str);
		};

		var openid_url = Dsq.$('dsq-openid-url').value;
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-openid-username').value;

		if (isblank(openid_url)) {
			return;
		}

		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=500';
		var url = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/openid/begin/' + '?url=' + encodeURIComponent(openid_url) + '&username=' + encodeURIComponent(username);
		that._openidWindow = window.open(url, 'openidWindow', popupParams);
		that._openidInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeConnect = function() {
		if (that._openidWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._openidInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.Reaction = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.hide = function(id) {
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/hidereaction.js?' + 'reaction_id=' + id);
	};

	this.reportMissingReactions = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled) {
			return;
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.queued) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Your report has been received. The system will automatically search for new reactions; if any are found, they will be displayed on this comment thread.<br/><br/>Thank&nbsp;you.',
												 'Reported missing reactions');
			return;
		}

		Dsq.Utils.execScript(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/forums/scobleizer/queueurl.js');
	};
};

Dsq.CNN = function() {
	var obj = {};

	obj.authenticate = function() {
		var url = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + "/saml/cnn/try/";
		Dsq.Utils.postToUrl(url, {'target': document.location}, true);
	};

	return obj;
}();


if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
	(function() {
		DSQ_HEADER_AVATAR_RE = /<div class="dsq-header-avatar"(.*?)>/gim;
		Dsq.Templates.registerFilter('postPrependHeader', function(html, post_id) {
			// Add "onmouseout" for dsq-header-avatar for dropProfile
			// functionality since IE6 cannot use :hover.
			function _headerAvatarReplace(content, inner, _unused, html) {
				return '<div class="dsq-header-avatar" '
					+ inner
					+ ' onmouseout="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')">';
			}
			html = html.replace(DSQ_HEADER_AVATAR_RE, _headerAvatarReplace);
			return html;
		});
	})();
}





	// TODO: Move Seesmic code outside of the main script.  Don't let this script clobber the global namespace.
	if(typeof seesmic == 'undefined') { var seesmic = {}; }
	seesmic.widget = new function () {
		this.callback = function (data) {
			playerVersion = data.disqusplayer;
		};
	};

	
	var scriptEl = document.createElement('script');
	scriptEl.setAttribute('type', 'text/javascript');
	scriptEl.setAttribute('src', 'http://seesmic.com/version.js?callback=seesmic.widget.callback');
	document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(scriptEl);

	
	var scriptEl = document.createElement('script');
	scriptEl.setAttribute('type', 'text/javascript');
	scriptEl.setAttribute('src', 'http://media.disqus.com/javascript/library/swfobject.js');
	document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(scriptEl);

	function see_play_video(_videoUri, _add) {
		var swf = !!playerVersion ? playerVersion : 'http://seesmic.com/embeds/StandalonePlayer.swf';

		flashcontentDiv = Dsq.$(_videoUri + '_content');
		previewDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-seesmic-' + _videoUri + '_preview');
		hideDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-seesmic-' + _videoUri + '_hide');
		showDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-seesmic-' + _videoUri + '_show');
		if(_add) {
			// push flash widget
			var so = new SWFObject(swf, 'sotester', '300', '270', '9', '#000000');
			so.addVariable('video', _videoUri);
			so.addParam('allowFullScreen', 'true');
			so.addParam('allowScriptAccess','always');
			so.useExpressInstall('swfobject/expressinstall.swf');
			so.write(_videoUri + '_content');

			previewDiv.style.display = 'none';
			hideDiv.style.display = 'block';
			showDiv.style.display = 'none';
		}
		else {
			flashcontentDiv.innerHTML = '';
			previewDiv.style.display = 'block';
			hideDiv.style.display = 'none';
			showDiv.style.display = 'block';
		}
	};





(function() {
	//
	// Load theme.  This overrides the base templates with template functions
	// from the respective themes.
	//
	if (Dsq.jsonData.integration.theme == 4) {
		var theme = 'narcissus';
		// HACK: Set variable on window to use post message.
		window.disqus_use_postmessage = true;

		
		for(var prop in Dsq.Themes[theme]) {
			if(Dsq.Themes[theme] && Dsq.Themes[theme].hasOwnProperty(prop)) {
				Dsq.Templates[prop] = Dsq.Themes[theme][prop];
			}
		}
		
		for(var prop in Dsq.Post) {
			if(Dsq.Themes[theme] && Dsq.Themes[theme].hasOwnProperty(prop)) {
				Dsq.Post[prop] = Dsq.Themes[theme][prop];
			}
		}
	}

	//
	// Register templates.  This must be done after all themes are loaded.
	//
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('authPost', Dsq.Templates.authPost);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('header', Dsq.Templates.header);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('footer', Dsq.Templates.footer);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('trackbacks', Dsq.Templates.trackbacks);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('reactions', Dsq.Templates.reactions);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('prependPost', Dsq.Templates.prependPost);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('appendPost', Dsq.Templates.appendPost);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postPrependHeader', Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postAppendHeader', Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('preBody', Dsq.Templates.preBody);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postBody', Dsq.Templates.postBody);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postFooter', Dsq.Templates.postFooter);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('_popupGeneric', Dsq.Templates._popupGeneric);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('voted', Dsq.Templates.voted);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('popupProfile', Dsq.Templates.popupProfile);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postBox', Dsq.Templates.postBox);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('pagination', Dsq.Templates.pagination);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postComment_onSuccess', Dsq.Templates.postComment_onSuccess);

})();

Dsq.container.className = "clearfix";
Dsq.container.innerHTML = ' \
<ul id="dsq-comments">\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675209">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675209" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675209" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675209">Zian</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675209" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675209" class="dsq-comment-message">It sounds like something that might go well with Windows Home Server. I wonder if it could be an OEM solution for WHS.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675234">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675234" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675234" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675234" href="http://blog.mastermaq.ca/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Mack D. Male</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675234" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675234" class="dsq-comment-message">Sounds a lot like Infrant\'s X-RAID products. <a href="http://www.infrant.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.infrant.com</a></div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675233">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675233" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675233" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675233" href="http://siliconvalleymusings.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Steve</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675233" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675233" class="dsq-comment-message">Technically, it\'s not RAID.<br><br>From there site "..the patent-pending [read proprietary] technology within Drobo is not RAID and was developed specifically to perform data management and configuration tasks automatically so that you don\'t have to. Drobo does utilize advanced storage concepts such as virtualization, but it is not a derivative of RAID."<br><br>I suspect this means you will only be able to access the data on the disks with a Drobo box. So if your Drobo dies, your stuck.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675235">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675235" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675235" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675235">matt</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675235" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675235" class="dsq-comment-message">mack: that´s what i wanted to write ;)<br>where´s the big difference to a readynas NV+?<br>(that´s on my shopping list for a couple of months already)<br><br>rgrds<br>Matt</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675236">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675236" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675236" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675236" href="http://yohanneswijaya.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Yohannes Wijaya (macncatic)</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675236" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675236" class="dsq-comment-message">Scoble, contrary to what you wrote, it\'s already available for immediate order as of this writing.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675242">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675242" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675242" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675242">meanguy</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675242" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675242" class="dsq-comment-message">if you want something that comes from an established company and doesn\'t look quite as goofy, check out Promise Technology.  they don\'t call it a "robot" but they do put a gigabit ethernet jack on the back:<br><br><a href="http://www.promise.com/product/product_detail_eng.asp?product_id=177#" rel="nofollow">http://www.promise.com/product/product_detail_e...</a><br><br>there\'s tons of stuff out there at all price levels, up to 12 drives in a box.  this is a very, very competitive space so check other manufacturers.<br><br>all these doodads hotswap and they all use RAID but isolate you from the nonsense.  this company doesn\'t use RAID?  huh?<br><br>apple\'s Xserves price out better than you\'d think, too.<br><br>for an operation like podtech, fibre channel is the way to go.  if you\'re going to actually make HD stuff and not just talk about it, you\'re not going to want to be waiting for a USB robot.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675239" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675239">olivier</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675239" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675239" class="dsq-comment-message">i do not think it\'s RAID....it\'a a proprietary techno</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675240" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675240" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675240" class="dsq-comment-message">Yohannes: it might be available for order, but they aren\'t shipping in quantities until late May, according to their management. I haven\'t gotten mine yet, for instance.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675241" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675241" href="http://eliot.bambi.net/blog/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Eliot</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675241" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675241" class="dsq-comment-message">Steve makes the same point I was going to: what if the Drobo fails?<br><br>As I understand it, This problem exists with RAID controllers as well, but I imagine the proprietary format would make it even worse.<br><br>However, it does look like a cool toy! I just don\'t feel like trusting it with all my data. Perhaps I\'m too old-fashioned, as I don\'t really trust RAID either.  :)</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675183" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675183" href="http://www.appdev.info/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">D. Lambert</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675183" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675183" class="dsq-comment-message">When I saw the initial announcement of WHS, I wrote on my blog that I was really excited about the potential, and really nervous about trusting something other than RAID, which has been proven over many years, to safeguard the family pictures.<br><br>Same goes for these guys.  I like the flexibility of a non-RAID solution, though I think Infrant\'s X-RAID is a pretty good compromise.  I also think they\'re in for a tough match with Microsoft, especially once people start writing extensions for WHS that build on the platform approach.<br><br>They need a little more "pow", I think, if they\'re going to make it.  Something you can\'t get from those other solutions.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675184" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675184" href="http://colinizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">colin</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675184" class="dsq-comment-message">At US$699 it is too expensive for Joe consumer and even greater than twice the price of a 700GB Seagate drive.  i.e. To get 750GB of protected storage (2 drives) you need to spend US$1600, or 930GB (3 500GB drives) for the same price.<br><br>See <a href="http://www.drobo.com/drobolator/" rel="nofollow">http://www.drobo.com/drobolator/</a><br><br>Fibre is expense but serious stuff.  To avoid Fibre cost, be able to re-use your existing 100/1000Gbps network, but still have an array (albeit not so clever but still with raid) there\'s also iSCSI to consider.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675179" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675179" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675179" href="http://www.beercosoftware.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675179" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675179" class="dsq-comment-message">Should we all make sure we ONLY use the product with Genuine Seagate TM hard drives, or does that go without saying?<br><br>Just buying this thing means you have to buy at least 2-4 new Seagate hard drives. Sounds like a plan.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675223" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675223" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675223">olivier</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675223" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675223" class="dsq-comment-message">can\'t wait to get my hands on this robot.<br>Unfortunately i live in europe and this thing doesn\'t seem to be shipped over sea.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675218" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675218" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675218">lovely453</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675218" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675218" class="dsq-comment-message">Hey visit my sites:<br><a href="http://7thgradesurvival.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://7thgradesurvival.wordpress.com/</a><br>and<br><a href="http://mytips4clubpenguin.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://mytips4clubpenguin.wordpress.com/</a></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675215" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675215" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675215">Christopher Coulter</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675215" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675215" class="dsq-comment-message">Groan, techie-by-blog types attracted by bright and shiny new gadgets, like moths to a flame. And yeah I heard about it too, press chatter network. ;) Yeah, more "pow" is exactly what I thought. Bit out of price range for home market and far less functional for the prosumer and IT Pro market, and with proprietary tech, too risky, goodbye data.<br><br>On topic, why is Seagate pulling away from eSata? USB 2 and Firewire, feh.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675214" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675214" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675214">Jonathan</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675214" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675214" class="dsq-comment-message">I don\'t know much about RAID, so you guys can help me out. Drobo can do the following. Can RAID systems?<br><br>* Have inserted into the array any from 1-4 drives of any size and any manufacturer at any time?<br>* Remove any drive at any time and still read/write your files while your data is being moved around to be backed up again?<br>* When the array is full, with 4 drives, remove a drive and replace it with a larger drive to get more space, all the while continuing to read and/or write data to the array?<br>* Just format and go? (i.e. no configuration necessary.)<br>* If a drive fails, just replace it (or not) and your data is still valid and accessible?<br>* Yellow and Red leds (and blue capacity lights) gives you up to the second information on the status of your array and your used (and free) capacity?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675210" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675210" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675210">Len</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675210" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675210" class="dsq-comment-message">What\'s the big deal?  I can buy a Infrant Readynas for $620 today, load it up with 2 or 4 drives, run XRaid and be done with it (no maintenance.)<br><br>I did do that about 6 months ago, only hiccup since was a power outage, and it came back up like a champ (I bought a $40 UPS after that.)</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675212" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675212">anon</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675212" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675212" class="dsq-comment-message">Sounds like proprietary garbage.  Why do consumers get stuck with proprietary crap just because they don\'t know the functionality, safety, and security of all this has been available for decades using standards?  And why would you push this ahead of a standard RAID solution which is better supported?</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675190">LayZ</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675190" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675190" class="dsq-comment-message">@16 "And why would you push this ahead of a standard RAID solution which is better supported?"<br><br>Are you forgetting who PodTech\'s sponsor is?  According to Scoble this doodad could enable more seagate sales.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675206">skeptical</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675206" class="dsq-comment-message">Steve says:<br><br><i><br>I suspect this means you will only be able to access the data on the disks with a Drobo box. So if your Drobo dies, your stuck.<br></i><br><br>Well, yes, and no, and in any case, if you lose your hardware with J-Random RAID supplier, you are kinda stuck as well, eh.<br><br>In any event, if you lose the box, just return it to the factory for a replacement if it is still under warranty. When it comes back, put the same set of drives back in the box, and you are under way.<br><br>What could be easier?<br><br>Anon says:<br><br><i><br>And why would you push this ahead of a standard RAID solution which is better supported?<br></i><br><br>Because RAID stinks. With your standard J-Random RAID hardware, can you pop a small drive, replace it with a larger drive, all while copying data to the device, and instantly have more space?<br><br>Can you populate your J-Random RAID hardware with drives as you want to? Start with two 250GB drives, because they were cheap at Frys, then add a couple of 300GB drives because they were cheap, then 6 months later, pop the 250s and replace them with 750GB drives because they are cheap, all the while never having to move your data back and forth and enjoying pretty much all of the space?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675203" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675203">skeptical</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675203" class="dsq-comment-message">Chris asks:<br><br><i><br>Should we all make sure we ONLY use the product with Genuine Seagate TM hard drives, or does that go without saying?<br></i><br><br>You can if you like. The two that are on my desk have a mix of Seagate, Western Digital, White Label and Fujitsu drives, but then, that\'s the only way to make sure the firmware works with different drives.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675207" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675207" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675207">badbob001</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675207" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675207" class="dsq-comment-message">Is this something like how google manages their storage, where they don\'t use raid but just keep multiple copies of the data somewhere else?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675202" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675202" href="http://www.beercosoftware.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675202" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675202" class="dsq-comment-message">"You can if you like. The two that are on my desk have a mix of Seagate, Western Digital, White Label and Fujitsu drives, but then, that’s the only way to make sure the firmware works with different drives."<br><br>"I\'m not only a hairclub client, I\'m also the president!"<br><br>Very nice. Scoble could easily cut to the chase and post 1 in 10 seagate commercial highlight strips though and it would be less tacky.<br><br>We know he has to make money some how, but he could be less subversive about it.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675191" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675191" href="http://www.psynixis.com/blog" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Simon Brocklehurst</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675191" class="dsq-comment-message">Is this device based on Sun\'s ZFS technology?  From technical description of the device, it sure *sounds like* ZFS to me.<br><br>However, on their web-site, they imply they have developed the core technology themselves and have patented it:<br><br>"the patent-pending technology within Drobo is not RAID and was developed specifically to perform data management and configuration tasks automatically so that you don\'t have to."<br><br>I think they should clarify whether or not this device is based around Sun\'s ZFS.  As it is, they give the *impression* of being dishonest in their marketing.  They might not be: they might well have developed the file system used in Drobo themselves - but I really do think they need to clarify this.<br><br>In fact, if it *is* based around ZFS, I think it would add to the credibility of the device.  ZFS is a serious file system.  Few customers for this kind of device would have any doubts trusting their data to ZFS.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675201" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675201">skeptical</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675201" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675201" class="dsq-comment-message">Simon asks:<br><br><i><br>Is this device based on Sun’s ZFS technology? From technical description of the device, it sure *sounds like* ZFS to me.<br></i><br><br>Nope. It is a USB storage device that uses a pooled storage model and provides transparent redundancy.<br><br>You don\'t have to run some command-line stuff to add new drives to the pool. Just add them, and the unit does all the rest. You don\'t have to reboot and wait and wait and wait to use the unit.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675197" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675197" href="http://www.beercosoftware.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675197" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html</a><br>Advanced search on published applications(not approved)<br>AN/"Data Robotics"<br>AN/"Trusted Data Corporation"<br>For the company or assignee name.<br><br>You can search published applications at the USPTO<br>Data Robotics/Trusted Data Corporation has no pending applications for any patents.<br><br>You can try <a href="http://www.google.com/patents" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/patents</a> too<br><a href="http://www.google.com/patents?q=%2522trusted+data+corporation%2522&amp;btnG=Search+Patents" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/patents?q=%22trusted+data...</a><br><br>Their TM app is there, but no patents applications pending.<br>I have experience with Sun gear, and I don\'t see the huge advantage of ZFS in a practical environment. I\'m getting rid of our Sun stuff like it was going out of style. Oh wait.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675198" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675198" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675198" href="http://www.beercosoftware.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675198" class="dsq-comment-message">"Nope. It is a USB storage device that uses a pooled storage model and provides transparent redundancy."<br><br>Yeah, I like LVM too. ;)</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675199" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675199" href="http://www.psynixis.com/blog" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Simon Brocklehurst</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675199" class="dsq-comment-message">Hi skeptical. Many thanks for your reply. Just to clarify... Are you familiar with ZFS?  And do you *know* that Drobo isn\'t based on ZFS?<br><br>The reason why I ask is that, with reference to your reply:<br><br>o ZFS "uses a pooled storage model" and provides "transparent redundancy".<br><br>o With ZFS, you "don\'t have to reboot and wait and wait and wait" - all operations in ZFS are completed on-line, and usually take a few seconds.<br><br>o And I\'m not clear why you mentioned USB and "command line stuff" - to me, those things seem orthogonal to the ZFS question.<br><br>It\'s quite an undertaking to develop a new file system.  Even a company as large as Apple, that builds its own operation system, didn\'t feel able to take this on with the next version of Mac OS X (Leopard). Instead Apple chose to port ZFS from Solaris to Mac OS X.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675200" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675200" href="http://www.beercosoftware.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675200" class="dsq-comment-message">My last question, couldn\'t one simply buy a 4 SATA connector enclosure, put the host FS on LVM instead, have some kind of PNP LVM manager and sell those for $99 a piece?<br><br>You could pull that off with $5 worth of plastic and a 333mhz cpu or even arm for a production cost of $30 and sell it back for $50. The "D-Link" version of your product.(hide the GPL line from &gt;strings, FSF does that first when they test it)</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675193" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675193" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675193" href="http://www.beercosoftware.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675193" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675193" class="dsq-comment-message">Sorry, that may have come off a little harsh. This is a mini-SAN with plug n play LVM type functionality. Why patent a FS? Why not use free Linux, publish the source and make the product cost $149 instead?<br><br>You\'re not going to sell many at that price.<br><br>In all fairness, I can imagine that you just filed the patent application and that it may not be in the USPTO application database just yet.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675194">Skeptical</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675194" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675194" class="dsq-comment-message">Simon asks ...<br><br><i><br>Just to clarify… Are you familiar with ZFS? And do you *know* that Drobo isn’t based on ZFS?<br></i><br><br>I am familiar with ZFS to the extent of having seen presentations on ZFS and having read stuff on the the ZFS web site.<br><br>I do know that Drobo isn\'t based on ZFS. It is only a block storage device, which is why I mentioned USB.<br><br>It sits below the filesystem, kinda like LVM. There is no file system on Drobo. The UI that is provided autoformats it for NTFS or HFS or you can manually format it for NTFS or other file systems.<br><br>The references to rebooting and waiting and waiting etc were to the Infrant product. Unless they have changed their product and not updated their FAQ, that is what happnes.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675195" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675195" href="http://www.beercosoftware.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675195" class="dsq-comment-message">I would honestly get one for the office, but<br><br>A. A backup HDD and a cron script is cheaper<br><br>B. The product is closed source, even though it is a hardware product<br><br>C. The website does not state it\'s compatibility with ext2/3 fs.<br><br>Most of the servers in the world that would actually use this are running Linux.<br><br>Skeptical, I take it you work for them. Try to bring the price down and make it LVM compatible if you can. A SAN for home use? Too many people have a media center of some type now for that to be practical. My PS3 is outfitted with a 120 GB drive. More than enough to serve as a backup.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675196" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675196">Skeptical</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675196" class="dsq-comment-message">Chris says:<br><br><i><br>My last question, couldn’t one simply buy a 4 SATA connector enclosure, put the host FS on LVM instead, have some kind of PNP LVM manager and sell those for $99 a piece?<br><br>You could pull that off with $5 worth of plastic and a 333mhz cpu or even arm for a production cost of $30 and sell it back for $50. The “D-Link” version of your product.(hide the GPL line from &gt;strings, FSF does that first when they test it)<br></i><br><br>There are some guys on Sand Hill road who would like to talk to you about that business if you have more than a powerpoint presentation ...<br><br>LVM does not have the capabilities that are in the Drobo box.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675189" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675189" href="http://www.beercosoftware.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675189" class="dsq-comment-message">"This thing rocks. I can see buying quite a few of these for PodTech."<br><br>Here is a prime example skeptical. Drobo just lost Scoble, a well funded Silicon Valley A list customer.<br><br>Go to <a href="http://podtech.net" rel="nofollow">podtech.net</a> and check the http headers:<br>You can download <a href="http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/" rel="nofollow">http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/</a> for Firefox<br><br>You will see this in the GET response.<br><br>-Server: Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2<br><br>Scoble is using Ubuntu server for <a href="http://Podtech.net" rel="nofollow">Podtech.net</a>, probably because it\'s cheaper than Windows or Red Hat Enterpise. Who can blame him. Scoble was using Fedora Core before Ubuntu, I remember they were with <a href="http://Valueweb.com" rel="nofollow">Valueweb.com</a> at the same time we used to have coloc at valueweb.<br><br>Valueweb has thousands of customers, a lot of them would love to have mini-sans like this one.<br><br>But just like Scoble, and us, we run ours out of our offices;<br><br>None of us can be Drobo customers, at any cost.<br>Because the Drobo system is simply incompatible with our systems.<br><br>If Drobo had LVM compatibility that would open the door to a whole market of people would could ACTUALLY USE drobo. Home users do not need SAN functionality. Small offices and datacenter customers do.<br><br>Making it windows/mac compatible? Why?<br><br>It makes no business sense what so ever.<br>Sure I would talk to the people on Sand Hill Rd, if they\'d want. We can develop such a system without a major problem in an acceptable time frame. Just have them email us for a quote.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675186" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675186" href="http://blog.macb.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">macbeach</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675186" class="dsq-comment-message">Does it work with Linux?<br><br>(I had to ask)<br><br>But seriously, I think non-denominational solutions like this are going to give Windows Home Server a run for the money.  A network interface would be nice though.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675187" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675187" href="http://www.beercosoftware.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675187" class="dsq-comment-message">"This thing rocks. I can see buying quite a few of these for PodTech."<br>#<br>Here is a prime example skeptical. Drobo just lost Scoble, a well funded Silicon Valley A list customer.<br>#<br>Go to <a href="http://podtech.net" rel="nofollow">podtech.net</a> and check the http headers:<br>You can download <a href="http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/" rel="nofollow">http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/</a> for Firefox<br>#<br>You will see this in the GET response.<br>#<br>-Server: Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2<br>#<br>Scoble is using Ubuntu server for <a href="http://Podtech.net" rel="nofollow">Podtech.net</a>, probably because it\'s cheaper than Windows or Red Hat Enterpise. Who can blame him. Scoble was using Fedora Core before Ubuntu, I remember they were with <a href="http://Valueweb.com" rel="nofollow">Valueweb.com</a> at the same time we used to have coloc at valueweb.<br>#<br>Valueweb has thousands of customers, a lot of them would love to have mini-sans like this one.<br>#<br>But just like Scoble, and us, we run ours out of our offices;<br>#<br>None of us can be Drobo customers, at any cost.<br>Because the Drobo system is simply incompatible with our systems.<br><br>If Drobo had LVM compatibility that would open the door to a whole market of people would could ACTUALLY USE drobo. Home users do not need SAN functionality. Small offices and datacenter customers do.<br>#<br>Making it windows/mac compatible? Why?<br>#<br>It makes no business sense what so ever.<br>Sure I would talk to the people on Sand Hill Rd, if they\'d want. We can develop such a system without a major problem in an acceptable time frame. Just have them email us for a quote.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675185" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675185">Skeptical</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675185" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675185" class="dsq-comment-message"><i><br>Does it work with Linux?<br></i><br><br>Well, it\'s just a block device ... however, it seems that Data Robotics does not warrant that it works as yet ...</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675188" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675188" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675188" href="http://www.beercosoftware.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675188" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675188" class="dsq-comment-message">"This thing rocks. I can see buying quite a few of these for PodTech."<br><br>He couldn\'t buy any for <a href="http://podtech.net" rel="nofollow">podtech.net</a> if he wanted to.<br><br>Go to <a href="http://podtech.net" rel="nofollow">podtech.net</a> and check the http headers:<br>You can download <a href="http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/" rel="nofollow">http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/</a> for Firefox<br><br>You will see this in the GET response.<br><br>-Server: Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2<br><br>Scoble is using Ubuntu server for <a href="http://Podtech.net" rel="nofollow">Podtech.net</a>, probably because it\'s cheaper than Windows or Red Hat Enterpise. Who can blame him. Scoble was using Fedora Core before Ubuntu, I remember they were with <a href="http://Valueweb.com" rel="nofollow">Valueweb.com</a> at the same time we used to have coloc at valueweb.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675229" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675229" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675229" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675229" class="dsq-comment-message">Chris: that\'s on our servers. That\'s not where I want to use Drobo. We have quite a few video editing systems being built. I need TONS of reliable storage. Drobo is going to fit the bill just fine for that. All our desktops are either Windows or Macs.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675230" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675230" href="http://www.beercosoftware.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675230" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675230" class="dsq-comment-message">“This thing rocks. I can see buying quite a few of these for PodTech.”<br><br>This is also why executives make extremely bad technology buyers. They\'ll make statements based on wishful thinking, then have to back them up with actual money later.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675231" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675231" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675231" href="http://www.beercosoftware.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675231" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675231" class="dsq-comment-message">"All our desktops are either Windows or Macs."<br><br>Ah, I see. Normally you don\'t need a SAN or automatic backup in that type of environment though.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675238" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675238" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675238" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675238" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675238" class="dsq-comment-message">Chris: unlike you I\'ve actually seen a Drobo up close and personal. And it solves a major problem for me on my desktops. What happens if one of those hard drives I have all my video on dies? I lose work and time and money. What happens if a drive dies in a Drobo? Nothing.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675228" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675228" href="http://www.beercosoftware.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675228" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675228" class="dsq-comment-message">Most of the time companies such as yours lease or rent from Apple, HP ect.... because the depreciation turnover on the machines is too big of an expense.<br><br>That being said leased equipment is used for maybe 1-2 years tops, and usually is too new to have that type of failure.<br><br>You could buy 20 desktop mini-SANs for insurance, but it\'s probably not worth it. The video is going to wind up on your Ubuntu server anyway, and that is most likely backed up daily.<br><br>I have a feeling you are in a position where you can afford to be nice and keep this company going with a bulk purchase, and there\'s nothing wrong with that.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675219" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675219">james</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675219" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675219" class="dsq-comment-message">It only connects via USB?<br><br>Is that true?<br><br>Thats pretty dang slow.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675213" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675213" href="http://www.psynixis.com/blog" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Simon Brocklehurst</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675213" class="dsq-comment-message">@33. Thanks for that Skeptical.  That was really helpful.<br><br>@41. Robert, presumably you\'re not thinking of using these for HD video editing? Is USB fast enough for that? I\'d have thought mirrored pairs of RAID 0\'ed (2,3 or 4 disks striped) eSATA drive cages would have been the obvious low-cost option for reliable (redundant) , high-performance video editing?<br><br>eSATA is blazingly fast for data transfers if you have striped disks at the other end of the wire (you need striped disks, otherwise the write-speed of the disk is limiting) - easily good enough for moving HD video around.  USB 2, on the other hand, is usually dog slow for data transfers - the wire protocol is usually limiting, even with just a single drive attached.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675204" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675204" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675204">Eddie K</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675204" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675204" class="dsq-comment-message">I was a Beta tester for this device and it works really well as DAS.<br>Windows automatically recognises the unit and essentially you can just use it as another drive from within Windows.<br><br>I successfully used this drive (shared on my network) to stream a variety of Media files around the place.<br><br>It\'s also a very resilient backup device. I currently have 4 300gb drives in it and it\'s been working perfectly for me.<br><br><br>Price aside, this device is recommended.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675192" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675192">avraider</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675192" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675192" class="dsq-comment-message">Unraid seems more flexible and cheaper....<br><br><a href="http://www.lime-technology.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lime-technology.com/</a></div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675211" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675211" href="http://www.beercosoftware.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675211" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675211" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2807658&amp;CatId=2427" rel="nofollow">http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchT...</a><br><br>239.99<br><br>That\'s a third of the price, and you have OSX/XP compatibility and a firewire-800 interface. It\'s not even on sale.<br><br>You could pick them up for under 200.<br>Don\'t get me wrong, you absolutely don\'t even need this for lease machines, but if you were going to any way.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675232">-gary</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675232" class="dsq-comment-message">Anyone that thinks that you don\'t need reliable desktop storage for projects because drives don\'t fail, or that large companies lease their desktop machines and get them replaced every 1-2 years is just not living in the real world.<br><br>In the real world, the one that I live in, drives fail all the time and MTBF numbers mean nothing when a drive drops dead right in front of your eyes.  Its MTBF was actually two weeks, not 50,000 hours.  Oops, they\'ll have to adjust that average failure rate down by .000001% now.  That might not affect their product line much, but to me that was a 100% failure.  Again, if you don\'t think it happens, then you have never, and I stress never, worked in an IT support department in your life.  It happens all the time.<br><br>This is why you need resilient desktop workspace.  We\'re not talking about long-term SAN storage or backed up web sites.  We\'re talking about all of the raw footage and project files that you are working on now.  RAID 0 is great and I use it for my primary drive on this machine, but it only increases your chances of drive failure.  SAN\'s are a wonderful resilient NETWORK storage technology, but it is virutaly useless for desktop editing, even on gig ehternet.<br><br>As for my own thoughts on the product, it\'s niffty for home storage, but without eSATA or at the very least FW 800, it has no place on a professional editing station.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675225" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675225" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675225">skeptical</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675225" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675225" class="dsq-comment-message"><i><br>As for my own thoughts on the product, it’s niffty for home storage, but without eSATA or at the very least FW 800, it has no place on a professional editing station.<br></i><br><br>Shhhh! Their product management might hear you.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675221" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675221" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675221" href="http://www.yourmaclifeshow.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Shawn King</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675221" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675221" class="dsq-comment-message">"Obviously someone else couldn’t keep it under wraps."<br><br>Not sure what you mean by that - they were showing the Drobo off at Photoshop World in Boston this past week.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675216" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675216" href="http://www.yourmaclifeshow.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Shawn King</a>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675216" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675216" class="dsq-comment-message">"Robert, presumably you’re not thinking of using these for HD video editing?"<br><br>The company reps I talked to specifically said no to that idea...for the time being. Firewire is obviously coming eventually.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675217" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675217" href="http://www.yourmaclifeshow.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Shawn King</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675217" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675217" class="dsq-comment-message">"it has no place on a professional editing station."<br><br>That\'s good because it\'s not meant for that.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675222" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675222" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675222" href="http://www.beercosoftware.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675222" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675222" class="dsq-comment-message">@gary,<br><br>You\'re being absolutely silly. Scoble has NFS and Samba with the Ubuntu server. On an internal lan he could drag and drop a video file raw onto a RAID Ubuntu cluster through Samba in a minute or so.<br><br>The reason that solution is INFINITELY more attractive than patching each machine is because it\'s centrally managed.<br>Each person, using Linux, Windows or Mac can use this solution transparently and that server can get backed up nightly or in real time with free software that comes with Ubuntu.<br><br>In an office situation, what Scoble is proposing is probably the most wasteful way you could go about solving that problem.<br>Again, Scoble is far from an IT specialist or manager, so who can blame him for wanting the shiny new engadget toy.<br>At least Scoble is using Fedora Core and now Ubuntu. He could have used Windows server and that would have lead to some huge problems on the server side. So at least he should be applauded for making one super wise technology choice.<br><br>Supported RHEL4-5 wouldn\'t have been a bad choice either, because RH road tests the configurations way more than Ubuntu. Which is part of the reason it costs so much more.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675182" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675182">LayZ</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675182" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675182" class="dsq-comment-message">@54  "At least Scoble is using Fedora Core and now Ubuntu....So at least he should be applauded for making one super wise technology choice."<br><br>Given his record and pedigree, I rather doubt he had any involvement whatsoever in that decision..</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675181" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675181">Zian</span>\
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	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675181" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675181" class="dsq-comment-message">I also have reservations about the proprietary (sp?) format.<br><br>With WHS, it\'s just a normal NTFS format and from what I recall, the user can just pull the disk out when he wants and be able to read the data (or something along these lines). I may be wrong though. Feel free to correct me.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675178">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675178" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675178" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675178">borisb</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675178" class="dsq-comment-message">I want to learn more -- this sound interesting.<br><br>If its based on ZFS then its a pile of shit.  I hope not.<br><br>ZFS is a turd buried in a cream puff ... its typical SUN crap ... s.... I tried it on a Panther develper release ... command line only, not all implemented, a total waste of time.  This could be Apple\'s fault, but a friend tried it on Opensolaris -- ZFS works, but its SLOWWWW.... Sun removed negative comments about performance from their site.... you can still find them on waybackmachine .....</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675227">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675227" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675227" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675227" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675227" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675227" class="dsq-comment-message">I don\'t edit HD yet. This setup should work fine for the kind of work I do.<br><br>LayZ is correct. We have an engineering team that chose the OS\'s we use on server side.<br><br>Chris: sorry to burst your bubble here. I need my media  on a faster bus than on a network drive somewhere. USB isn\'t really fast enough for some of the work I\'d like to do (Maxtor/Seagate has RAID drives I\'ll use for that). But for much of the work we do these Drobos are just great.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675224">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675224" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675224" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675224">Skeptical</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675224" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675224" class="dsq-comment-message">Zian says:<br><br><i><br>I also have reservations about the proprietary (sp?) format.<br></i><br><br>What propietary format? It\'s a block storage device.<br><br>In any event, NTFS and all the stuff Microsoft are doing in WHS are all propietary.<br><br>According to <a href="http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/whs_preview.asp" rel="nofollow">Paul Thurrott</a>:<br><br><i><br>With WHS, storage is hot-swappable. You can plug in an 80 GB hard drive, for example, and configure it quickly with the WHS Add Drive wizard. When you want to remove it and replace it with a 500 GB drive, there\'s a simple wizard for that as well.<br></i><br><br>Well, that\'s neat, but with the Drobo, you just plug a drive into the unit, and you have more storage. No wizard, no nothing. Unit full? No problem. Remove the smallest drive and plug in a larger drive. No wizard there either.<br><br>And there is still no ZFS under the hood. It\'s just block storage.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675237">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675237" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675237" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675237">Christopher Coulter</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675237" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675237" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>USB isn’t really fast enough for some of the work I’d like to do</i><br><br>eSata, baby, eSata...and Seagate is offa that ship seemingly. :(</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675180">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675180" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675180" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675180" href="http://www.beercosoftware.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675180" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675180" class="dsq-comment-message">"Chris: sorry to burst your bubble here. I need my media on a faster bus than on a network drive somewhere."<br><br>You need a better router.<br>Basically you\'re saying that the drive is going to fail the instant you dump the movie in from the camera. If that\'s the case just dump it back in.<br><br>Also you\'re worrying about something that won\'t happen in the first place. I would go with the network drive and a good router using NFS, but that\'s just me.<br><br>You can do other work while the data is transferring to the networked file system. Computers now a days can multiprocess.</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675226">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675226" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675226" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675226" href="http://amplioaudio.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Gregg</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675226" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675226" class="dsq-comment-message">For ~$700, I\'d like to see a version that is networkable, has 8-12 drive bays and includes the slick software utilities that are coming with Microsoft\'s Windows Home Server for backing up systems on the home network and remote access. Maybe the guy at Lime Technology can figure out how to add some of Drobo\'s slick hardware features in their UnRaid product.</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675220">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675220" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675220" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675220">The Joker</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675220" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675220" class="dsq-comment-message"><i><br>Maybe the guy at Lime Technology can figure out how to add some of Drobo’s slick hardware features in their UnRaid product.<br></i><br><br>Ha ha. That UnRaid technology is just UnReal. Look at all the down time and screwing around just to add a drive. Great move, that!</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675208">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675208" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675208" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675208" href="http://www.iyiz.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">tech</a>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675208" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675208" class="dsq-comment-message">I want to learn more — this sound interesting.<br><br>If its based on ZFS then its a pile of shit. I hope not.<br><br>ZFS is a turd buried in a cream puff … its typical SUN crap … s…. I tried it on a Panther develper release … command line only, not all implemented, a total waste of time. This could be Apple’s fault, but a friend tried it on Opensolaris — ZFS works, but its SLOWWWW…. Sun removed negative comments about performance from their site…. you can still find them on waybackmachine …..</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675205">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675205" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675205" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675205">danaldonova</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675205" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675205" class="dsq-comment-message">If you really wanna try this out, here\'s a discount code that will get you $100 off at the drobo store:  REFDANA<br><br>(good thru may 31)</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675177">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675177" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675177" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675177" href="http://e-gadfly.stumbleupon.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">eric gadfly</a>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675177" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675177" class="dsq-comment-message">After all the complaints about Drobo\'s price ---<br><br>Now it has been slashed. The foxy new black cube will sotre your terabytes for less.<br><br>Data Robotics, the manufacturer of the Drobo, has <a href="http://www.drobospace.com/blog/5/10382/Drobo-Price-Reduced-to--499--Gives-Difference-Back-to-Previous-Buyers/" rel="nofollow"><strong>announced</strong></a> that the cube’s price is being cut from $699 to $499.<br><br>And, in an unusual move, the company is offering a rebate to anyone who already bought a Drobo above $499.</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675243">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675243" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675243" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9675243" href="http://www.majid.info/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Fazal Majid</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675243" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675243" class="dsq-comment-message">From my reading of their (sketchy) docs, it is not block storage. The Drobo unit pretends to be a virtual 2TB USB block storage unit, but under the hood it knows about the filesystem you are using (NTFS and HFS+) and does the file replication to multiple drives. In a way, it\'s a USB-NAS. That\'s why Linux is not yet supported, they need to add support for ext3 in the filesystem before that can happen.<br><br>It certainly does not use ZFS. ZFS is insanely great, but it does not have the flexibility to add or remove drives at random like Drobo can.</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675244">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675244" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675244" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675244">Dealing With Technophobes</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675244" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675244" class="dsq-comment-message">After reading through the majority of posts here, it\'s clear that most people don\'t quite "get" the Drobo. Everyone wants to pit it against NAS devices, complain that building an Ubuntu RAID 5 file server is less expensive, that it doesn\'t support ext3 for Linux, etc.<br><br>You see, therein lies the problem. Drobo\'s greatest strength turns into it\'s largest weakness... the fact that it\'s protected storage. As soon as that fact is known, it\'s immediately thrown into a class of product where it doesn\'t belong. Drobo isn\'t destined to supplant users like you who can setup and configure RAID 5 machines, or can configure RAID NAS devices that directly connect to networks through CAT 5 cables. Why? Because you know what the heck those things are, how to use them, and how to fix them when they break. You, my friends, are in the minority.<br><br>So what are the facts:<br><br>1. All computer users have important data<br>2. All computer users want a reliable backup solution<br><br>Where do most turn? To burning discs or buying a USB drive like the Western Digital Passport. They copy files there and think they\'re safe. However, users like us know that\'s "better than nothing", but a load of crap.<br><br>That\'s what Drobo is for... to provide a simple, user friendly device that does the things the common user doesn\'t understand, and do it well. In fact, the way Drobo handles multi-drive sizes, multiple layers of RAID, instantaneous ability to add space, and the way it can easily grow with the users needs is nothing short of brilliant. Users CAN buy hard drives and slide them into a bay. How do I know that, because people can buy frozen pizzas and slide them into an oven.<br><br>Would networking be a really cool feature? I think so, but I\'ve read some pretty good arguments in the <a href="http://www.drobospace.com/" rel="nofollow">Drobo Forums</a> why it\'s not really necessary. And there\'s an <a href="http://www.drobospace.com/article/10425/Share-Drobo-on-a-Network--Apple-Airport-Extreme/" rel="nofollow">article on how to network the Drobo with an Apple Airport Extreme</a> that was pretty interesting.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675245">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675245" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675245" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675245">Dan Aldridge</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675245" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675245" class="dsq-comment-message">FYI - the reference code REFDANA will save you $25 on a new Drobo until July 31!!</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9675246">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9675246" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9675246" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9675246">skeptical</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9675246" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9675246" class="dsq-comment-message">Fazal says:<br><br><i><br>From my reading of their (sketchy) docs, it is not block storage. The Drobo unit pretends to be a virtual 2TB USB block storage unit, but under the hood it knows about the filesystem you are using (NTFS and HFS+) and does the file replication to multiple drives. In a way, it’s a USB-NAS. That’s why Linux is not yet supported, they need to add support for ext3 in the filesystem before that can happen.<br></i><br><br>It\'s a USB storage device. That means SCSI over USB.<br><br>Do you know what sort of a performance hit you would take translating LBAs to file offsets and back again and understanding two or three or ten file systems.<br><br>It\'s a block storage device.</div>\
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