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Hell, I've seen a friggin' AJAX approximation of the core functionality of Aero, so it can't be a huge stretch. But regardless, I've seen this in every app I've worked on: every rev, more features get added on &amp; bugs get fixed, but refactoring is too risky/too costly/too something, and the cohesiveness of what the app should be gets lost as hacks get thrown in, or features that should use existing code get reimplemented separately.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_01:36:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "ffae666ed0f2f8ab84f6569b2295c460", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679516": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "MIX this year was full of exciting announcements for developers. A PDC before the end of the year could not add much.<br><br>Also, many teams in the Developer Division have been shipping early CTPs of their products for some time, but they have had a few bad steps (especially with WinFS) and now they cannot even announce something is going to be delayed without putting all developers in panic.<br><br>So I guess they are learning to be more careful. Personally, I like it more if they blow my expectations when they ship :)<br><br>Regarding .NET code in Windows, it is an interesting topic. I think you will see much more of it in Windows Server 2008. By the way, I wonder how much of Solaris is written in Java these days.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_01:37:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "d5a30747316b4798f746d6afb57d93f4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679517": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "According to the post on Microsoft's PDC site it says the event is being re-scheduled (aka postponed) and not cancelled. No where do I see Microsoft saying the event is cancelled.<br><br>Perhaps they will hold it sometime in early Winter? Maybe Spring 2008?<br><br>For an event where many folks were looking forward to, I highly doubt it has been cancelled.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_01:31:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "c25cb215c0af61a2b1753424146b4566", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679518": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "For Microsoft Mac silverlight proposition to be taken seriously, they have to build something that looks like a Mac component, ie with the theming, look and feel, and all that stuff a Mac user expects.<br><br>That's why Microsoft insistence on reinventing the wheel inside the browser is not right. And we've seen that movie before with ActiveX controls.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_01:25:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "d41616621cee9eeb674397011bd0bd35", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679519": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Stephane: which is why I said \"subset.\" Of course the Mac will always be treated as a second class citizen. Silverlight was about beating Adobe's Flex/Flash. I don't remember DirectX being built into Flash either.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_01:16:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679520": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Scoble said \"Not to mention that most developers coming out of school are trained on Java and haven\u2019t built a huge amount of expertise on C++.\"<br><br>You are probably right, but I think most are trained in academic Java (i.e. algorithms, infrastructure, ...), not in the Java that is meant to make them become Java sweatshop workers.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_01:08:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "d41616621cee9eeb674397011bd0bd35", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679521": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Stephane: a subset of .NET is coming to Macintosh. Check out Silverlight. But in general I agree with your comments in #4.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_01:08:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679522": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Scoble said \"subset of .NET is coming to Macintosh. Check out Silverlight\"<br><br>Scoble, you are screwing it again.<br><br>Let me say for you : Microsoft Mac silverlight runtime is a free publicity. In a time where they are, arguably, being criticized for promoting stuff that only works with their own products/APIs, they have to come up with something that changes that perception. Repeat, PERCEPTION. What they want is to sell Windows licenses period.<br><br>It's foolish to think the Mac runtime is meant to show how good the Microsoft developers are, when at the same time they have every reason to build on their own investments, for instance DirectX (hardware acceleration in particular). This won't ship for the Mac, right?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_01:11:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "d41616621cee9eeb674397011bd0bd35", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679523": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Alex? So much cool stuff? Silverlight indeed was cool but was a repurposing of .NET and wasn't that major. That's not like a new version of Windows or Office. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, though.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_01:07:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679524": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Scoble said \"After all, if Microsoft is unwilling to use it to develop Windows or Office, why should the rest of us base our life on it? Easy, it\u2019s a lot more productive for the rest of us to write code in .NET\"<br><br>Again, no, the reason why Microsoft wants everyone to use .NET is because it's tied to Windows. A .NET developer is a developer who's using Windows. In and of itself, he's a marketer for Windows. Any product shipped under that umbrella is an incentive to buy Windows licenses as opposed to Mac/Linux licenses.<br><br>Please don't get me started with the Linux .NET Mono thing. It's from Novell, the company that will go bankrupt within two years for screwing their own customers...\u00e0 la Microsoft.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_01:06:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "d41616621cee9eeb674397011bd0bd35", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679525": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Stephane: true. But there aren't many projects that are starting today based on C++. Why not? Because other methodologies are faster/cheaper etc. Not to mention that most developers coming out of school are trained on Java and haven't built a huge amount of expertise on C++.<br><br>Jeff and Scott are both .NET types. That is if they are still writing Microsoft-centric code (I think Jeff wrote that he's moving to LAMP and picking up Ruby on Rails).<br><br>I had many developers inside Microsoft tell me that they wish they could use .NET instead of compiled C++. Why? It's more fun to write .NET code and it's faster. It's also harder to write bugs due to the memory management.<br><br>But, yeah, I know it is only part of the decision process. Thanks for pointing out to everyone that there's more to the story than the writing code part.<br><br>I assume my readers are smart and don't need to have everything spelled out in inane detail like that.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_01:05:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679526": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Seriously though is this really a surprise?<br><br>Mix07 was filled with so much cool new stuff it might as well have been a PDC?<br><br>I was wondering what they had left over to unveil at the real PDC...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_01:01:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "ef0b5680532c0e0fac2fe20ef4b01929", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679527": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Scoble said \"This is a bummer, because .NET is a lot easier to write than C++ \"<br><br>What you don't seem to understand is that writing the code is just a slice of the development lifecycle. The total cost comprises a lot of other pieces.<br><br>And I thought you linked to guys like Jeff Atwood or Scott Hanselman for a reason... /sarcasm", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_00:59:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "d41616621cee9eeb674397011bd0bd35", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679528": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"This is a bummer, because .NET is a lot easier to write than C++ and letting Microsoft\u2019s developers write .NET code for Windows would unleash a bunch of innovation.\"<br><br>Robert, that statement is clinically retarded.  That's like saying writing a novel in French instead of English will unleash some kind of new theme in literature.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-27_21:12:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "9aae0e2c1503b1e541e4c4cb9bb08f0a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679529": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "#59: fair enough. So, tell me, how much has Channel 9's traffic gone up since I left? Compare that to the growth in traffic of <a href=\"http://ScobleShow.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">ScobleShow.com</a>. I have and ScobleShow has been growing a LOT faster and is quickly moving up the ranks of the Technorati list. ScobleShow reached top 2,000 blogs faster than Channel 9 did and Channel 9 had fewer blogs to compete against.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-26_03:55:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679530": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>\"there are large portions of Vista that WERE rewritten from scratch. The audio stack, for instance. Same with the networking stack.\" </i><br><br>Neither of which are candidates (nor examples of candidates) to be written on top of .NET.  Corresponding .NET-provided services would be written on top of them instead.  .NET is a high level framework, much of which sits on top of lowerlevel stuff (e.g. .NET's internet transport api sits on top of wininet.dll).<br><br><br><i>\"Yet the management forbade any team from working with .NET. Why? Because working on top of .NET would build dependencies on another team inside Microsoft.<br>Also because .NET\u2019s performance simply wasn\u2019t up to the task.\"</i><br><br>Well, at least the \"dependencies\" thing is true.  Yes, the main problem with Vista's delays was that lots of code was being written against other code (e.g. .NET 3.0) that  was still in development, which resulted in code being checked in with no testing, leading to instable development process.  The \"reset\" removed lots of these dependencies, many of which where .NET dependencies.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-26_02:32:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "e3cc66801c919d254d7836006d1f6354", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679531": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@57 \"don\u2019t remember anyone complaining about our technical depth before I left Microsoft but now you are here saying it wasn\u2019t deep enough.\"<br><br>Uh...maybe because you were the only bar to be measured against?  Lots of people thought the special effects in Star Wars in '77 were cool, too. But compared to today?  They sucked. Sort of the same thing.  The tech content of your videos at Channel9 vs today's Channel9? Well, I think Mr. Balder has a valid point.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-26_00:55:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "26493d7270fb206c1e08599674e51e5a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679532": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@61. Wait!  You're going back and checking C9 stats today compared to what they were when you were there? Then you are tracking that compared to your current stats? Can you say \"insecure\"?  I thought you could.<br><br>Just because it had a lot of hits isn't a indication of quality.  Hell, more people read People or USA Today than the NY Times or The Economist.  Does that mean People and USA Today have better, more informative content?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-27_12:56:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "26493d7270fb206c1e08599674e51e5a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679533": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Kenny: there are large portions of Vista that WERE rewritten from scratch. The audio stack, for instance. Same with the networking stack. Yet the management forbade any team from working with .NET. Why? Because working on top of .NET would build dependencies on another team inside Microsoft. Also because .NET's performance simply wasn't up to the task.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_23:11:22", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679534": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Dave: I was at Mix07 and watched the keynote. The Scott Guthrie part was excellent.<br>I see you're here just to throw insults my way. Congrats. Interesting that Channel 9 was built to 4.3 million unique visitors when I was doing videos at Channel 9 (I did most of the first 600 videos on Channel 9) and I don't remember anyone complaining about our technical depth before I left Microsoft but now you are here saying it wasn't deep enough. Sounds like sour grapes to me. You can't complain about something two years after the fact and have any credibility.<br>You're a genius coder. Now go add something to Windows that we'll all care about. Thanks.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_23:09:23", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679535": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "From my personal experience, .NET isn't so slow that it would preclude loading it at boot time.<br><br>I don't have Vista, but I have XP with .NET 3.0 installed.  Besides my own little side projects, the three .NET apps that I use regularly are Paint.NET, PowerShell, and XPS Viewer EP.  Loading any of these before .NET has been loaded does take some time (8 seconds at the most).  But once that's done, loading any of them afterward takes little time, so you wouldn't be able to tell the difference from a native app.  But I have a relatively fast machine.<br><br>Windows does take a long time to come out of sleep mode compared to OSX, but that has nothing to do with .NET.  Windows XP is slow coming out of sleep mode even with no .NET libs installed at all.<br><br>The reason Vista isn't written in .NET is that Vista wasn't rewritten from scratch.  It has tons of old NT code in there (and rightly so; no need to change it other than recompiling it with the stack-checking flag).<br><br>I'm not sure what any of this has to do with PDC's postponment, BTW.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_22:21:23", "killed": false, "user_key": "a9e6a8bd89cbd526d0d4a17d61644229", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679536": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>\u201cNot even the games were written in .NET.\u201d<br><br>WTF?!?!?! What kind of excuse do they have for *this* one?</i><br><br>-------<br><br>This is so tired.  They don't need an *excuse*.  Why rewrite mindsweeper (for example) in .NET if they can leave the core as it is and just pretty-up the graphics?<br><br>You don't rewrite things just to rewrite them.  For years, OSX's Finder wasn't written on top of Cocoa's API.  Did that mean that Cocoa sucked?<br><br>Expression is written in .NET.  That should be evidence enough that new apps are being written in .NET.  Rewriting older apps like mindsweeper for no reason is stupid.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_21:25:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "e3cc66801c919d254d7836006d1f6354", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679537": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>\"You\u2019ve got to be kidding if you think the keynote with Mike Arrington and Ray Ozzie at Mix07 was any more developer focused than what Steve Jobs does at the WWDC.\"</i><br><br>Scoble, have you even bothered to watch the Mix07 keynote, which was mainly mc'ed by Scott Gutthrie, not Ozzie or Arrington.  During the keynote, someone demoed actually creating and debugging a solution from start to finish.  When has a WWDC *ever* showed debugging as part of a keynote?  WWDCs are about, \"look at this new Leopard feature!\" nonsense that devs really don't care about.<br><br><br><i>\"I\u2019ve heard the .NET startup time problem from a range of developers across Microsoft\u2019s Windows team. It isn\u2019t a big deal to wait for Silverlight to startup, but it IS a huge deal to delay Windows starting up by a few seconds.\"</i><br><br>This is absurd.  My own .NET apps start within 5 seconds if .NET hasn't been loaded yet, and start instantaneously if it has been.  And this has zero to do with waking from sleep mode.  From where do you obtain your tech knowledge?<br><br>And yes, I do know that you did LINQ interviews at Channel9.  That doesn't mean you actually know anything about the tech.  Most of your questions are of the \"how does this help my mom?\" type.  Here's a clue: Go watch one of your old Channel9 vids or one of your current PodTech vids, then immediately watch one of Rory's Channel9 vids.  You will see at once which interviewer has tech knowledge and which does not.  Not that your interviews aren't without merit, but they simply are not about technical details.  So you can't point to them as evidence that you actually know what you're talking about at a technical level.<br><br>Again, your whole point was that postponing PDC meant that Microsoft has nothing coming for developers this year when Orcas is on its way.  Your entire premise is BS.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_21:21:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "e3cc66801c919d254d7836006d1f6354", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679538": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>that they don\u2019t have enough \u201cnew\u201d stuff to talk about.</i><br><br>Oh they have tons to <i>TALK</i> about, delivery is another matter, too early in the hype spin cycle and I don't think they want a PDC 2003 repeat.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_20:35:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "7f6291e8344b594235e57b843fc05d9b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679539": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": ".net does start up slowly, go browse some .net 1.1 web apps that have been sitting idle (no activity) for more then 20 minutes. my old vb com with asp beats that stuff with no startup wait and no configuration changes to make it go faster. why is that?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_19:21:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "f7e397a13046f16a355b68a065898271", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679541": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"Not even the games were written in .NET.\"<br><br>WTF?!?!?!  What kind of excuse do they have for *this* one?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_19:06:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "ffae666ed0f2f8ab84f6569b2295c460", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679542": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>Are you kidding me? how could that hurt,OSX may be a nice OS, but fast isn\u2019t something that comes to mind.</i><br><br>Wake-up call: it's 2007 now.  We're talking versus Vista, not XP.<br><br>I've run OS X on an old G3 with 512 MB of RAM.  It's certainly not fast, but it's actually usable (for basic stuff - e-mail, web browsing, Office, etc.).  I dare you to try using Vista on a Pentium II/366 with 512 MB of RAM and an old ATI Rage card.  Even just using IE or Office would be an incredibly painful and slow experience (ignoring the fact that you probably wouldn't even be able to get it to install or boot).", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_18:35:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "1d8d318b49aebd4265b6da27efe6f8c6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679543": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I've long been a Windows user (don't think I'll go so far as fan) and developer, creating both client and Windows applications. The purchase of a notebook with Vista was the impetus for buying my first Mac. The speed of the mac prompted the purchase of a macbook three weeks later.<br><br>Why is any of this relevant? Microsoft should be treading lightly with any new announcements as Vista is causing many long-time Windows users to throw their hands up in disgust and high-tail it the Apple Store to buy a computer that boots in 30 seconds and doesn't run the hard drive incessantly for thirty minutes for no apparent reason. Was Vista really ready for primetime or did they just need a fresh influx of cash that quarter?<br><br>I think .NET wasn't used in the OS because they were already battling speed issues and .NET was only going to contribute to the problem.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_17:44:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "f132339843b8750b96152c642dc59853", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679544": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I well remember the 1996 PDC, where almost every keynote announcement (including Microsoft signing a licensing deal with Sun for Java) was greeted with wild applause. And there was Jobs on stage as a speaker, 100% uncomfortable and insincere, but ... THERE.<br><br>The \"100 Days into the Internet\" vibe of that PDC just made it an extraordinary event.<br><br>Cut to the 2005 PDC, where virtually the whole of BillG's and Allchin's keynotes were received in stoney silence (Speakers has to resort to begging for applause: \"Oh, so you're not impressed by that, huh?\").<br><br>No fun for anyone, CTPs and MSFT blogging had already pre-empted most of it. Old news, all of it ... at $4K a pop.<br><br>A PDC in support of bit of Orcas (already beta'd at MIX) and a bit of Katmai would fall even flatter. Forget about it.<br><br>In fact the whole PDC thing may even have run its course in favour of more lightweight gigs like MIX.<br><br>We'll see.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_17:34:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "034d35ee187cdeeea96d4355792427b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679545": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "#64: congrats on getting a machine that wakes up so fast. I've seen dozens of Windows machines and most don't wake up that fast.<br><br>Regarding Channel 9. That's not what people told us in the surveys that we did! But, interesting how the revisionists go back and make everything I did seem like shit. That's cool. I guess if I was in the Microsoft ecosystem right now I'd be doing the same thing. Discredit Scoble's work back then, cause that way we can discredit anything he says now.<br><br>I understand how this game is played.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-26_06:22:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679546": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Robert,<br><br>1.\tPowershell is .NET code and it is a very important piece of Windows Server 2008. Also, I think IIS 7 is so entrenched with ASP.NET you cannot tell where one starts and the other ends (but it is not necessarily a lot of .NET code, this I don't know). All this is server stuff, but guess what? The same happened with Java. The sweet spot for managed code is on the server. On the client it can become as good as on the server once you overcome some limitations, like the loading time problem you mentioned. Anyway, .NET is very usable on the client side and I expect Microsoft will use it more and more in its own products. I think there is some kind of culture clash here.<br>2.\tFor those that argue about the limitation to one CLR for process, I heard that future versions of .NET will run on only one CLR (the latest installed), only the BCL will differ, depending on the one compiled your apps against. This is the aim of the red / blue separation of code in the framework. Also, Scott Guthrie says that you can load Silverlight and other version of the CLR on the same process.<br>3.\tSpeaking of Silverlight, I don't get what you mean by \"it is a repurpose of .NET and it is not major\". It is indeed major (and it took a lot of work for Microsoft), and the fact that it is still .NET is its killer feature. Don't forget the million of .NET developers that are happy to be \"repurposed\" along with it.<br>4.\tAbout the PDCs being about Office and Windows as development platforms, I don\u2019t think those are much relevant. The primary Microsoft \u201cdevelopment platforms\u201d these days are .NET and SQL Server, Windows and Office Server like Sharepoint are third and fourth, and Windows Live is probably on the rise. The Longhorn PDCs were very exciting because they were about the future of .NET and Microsoft eating its own dog food, making .NET even better. When they decided that they would not build Vista on WinFX but would instead backport most of WinFX to XP nobody cried (well, maybe some cried for WinFS). .NET got better anyway.<br><br>Regards!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-27_01:33:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "d5a30747316b4798f746d6afb57d93f4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679547": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Using an app framework for an OS isn't the right tool for the job.  There are .Net apps coming from MS,and there are apps that have a good deal of legacy code to work with that make more sense not using .Net - idealism shouldn't run project management.<br><br>We are far from the days of MFC where Microsoft wrote only Notepad in their own framework.  It's also wrong to say Microsoft is only out to sell Vista - that's no different than saying Google is only a search engine.<br><br>DevConnections and other conferences are still coming, and with MIX just over (and SilverLight running a .Net CLR on Win and Mac is a big deal) it can simply be there isn't a need for PDC this year.  Microsoft is doing excellent by developers with Orcas, .Net 3.5, LINQ, and the Expression lineup. As a blogger, it's cool to talk about what's coming - but as a developer it only matters what is here.  This stuff may be old news to some, but to developers it's real now - and that's a big deal.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_15:45:20", "killed": false, "user_key": "62d40699d57955829bf57bf2240892bd", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679548": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Robert, quite with the \"whyt isn't Windows written in .Net\".<br><br>Let me ask you a question, what cool language that Google/Technorati/Flickr/Twitter (or whoever is \"hip and happening\" in your world today) uses should Windows components be written in? Javascript? Ruby? Python? Java? What are you trying to say exactly? What language/platform should they use in your highly esteemed opinion?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_14:57:35", "killed": false, "user_key": "1b4a803a20ad950d945a06235662cfce", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679549": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "And, David, maybe you should do some research into what I did at Microsoft. Go and look at this video of Anders Hejlsberg. It was where he announced LINQ to the world. I was behind the camera. <a href=\"http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=115010\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1...</a><br>Oh, that was September 2005. So, where's the \"new\" stuff? That's what the PDC is for. When Microsoft decides not to hold a PDC it's an admission that they don't have enough \"new\" stuff to talk about.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_14:24:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679550": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "You've got to be kidding if you think the keynote with Mike Arrington and Ray Ozzie at Mix07 was any more developer focused than what Steve Jobs does at the WWDC.<br><br>I've heard the .NET startup time problem from a range of developers across Microsoft's Windows team. It isn't a big deal to wait for Silverlight to startup, but it IS a huge deal to delay Windows starting up by a few seconds.<br><br>Ask yourself: why isn't any code in Windows written in .NET? Not even the games were written in .NET. That's a fact and is one that I hear probably won't change, even in the next version of Windows.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_14:20:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679551": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "OSX starts up fast, especially off of sleep mode. I have a Mac and it starts up faster than my Vista machines (and is more reliable on startup too).", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_14:20:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679552": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Geeze.<br>They JUST had a very successful MIX conference, which was a *real* DC.  Scoble wants \"DCs\" like Apple's WWDCs, which, despite the \"DC\" in the name, are aimed at consumers rather than devs.  (Just compare the MIX07 keynote to a Jobs WWDC keynote, and see which is a real \"DC\".)  Scoble, you say you want announcements of new Windows and Office?  New versions JUST now came out.<br><br>And the notion that Microsoft is doing nothing for devs this year is more foolishness.  Ever heard of Orcas?  Ever heard of LINQ?  Ever heard of C# 3.0 and 3.5?  You should read Wes Deyer's MSDN blog for some of the cool C# features that are coming this year (whcih will put Java more behind than it already is, feature wise).<br><br><br>Lastly, your \"informants\" are pulling your leg.  OSX isn't known for its speed, so why would anyone be worried about speed comparisons with OSX?<br><br>And this \".NET takes too long to load\" is bull.  Once the first app loads it, all other apps that use it load very quickly.  The entire Expression sweet is WPF for crying out loud.  So Microsoft is using .NET for new apps (expecting them to rewrite Office in .NET is idiotic).<br><br>I don't know where Scoble is getting his info; either from people taking advantage of his gullibility by pulling his leg, or from the malcontents at minimsft.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_14:11:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "e3cc66801c919d254d7836006d1f6354", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679553": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Seshadri: thanks. Plus, it's easier to say \"in .NET\" than to explicitly write out \"in C#, or VB.NET, etc. etc.\"", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_13:55:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679554": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "LayZ: I used to work as an editor at Visual Basic Programmer's Journal so I know the difference between C++ that compiles to native code and VB or C# that runs on the .NET compiler/framework/ecosystem or whatever you want to call it. But, you're right. Most of this post comes from what other people who know a lot more than I do tell me.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_13:37:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679555": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"This is a bummer, because .NET is a lot easier to write than C++\"<br><br>Though this statement is incorrect in a strict sense(you can't write IN .NET) it is also very true in another sense.<br><br>irrespective of the language you use(VB,C#, Managed C++ ...) programming with the .NET FW and targeting the CLR is easier than writing native code using C++.<br><br>The general statement \"Writing apps using .NET is easier than C++\" is still very valid.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_13:44:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "aaa1c400b7e02bea94b84ce889e72dbd", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679556": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Brandon:  \"According to the post on Microsoft\u2019s PDC site it says the event is being re-scheduled (aka postponed) and not cancelled. \"<br><br>Uh, yeah.  Ranks right up there with \"I still want to be friends\" and \"the check is in your mouth.\"  If you say \"cancelled\" I bet you have to give back all the money from the sponsors and exhibitors.  I bet you have to actually admit that you couldn't put on a meaningful show and that customers would rip you a new one.  I bet that you'd have a great platform to promote Live! and for some reason just don't want to do it.<br><br>Lines.  Read between.  Proof is left for the student as an exercise.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_13:03:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "565712b6e542af7feaa0692f4e23283c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679557": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Regarding the C++ practices of memory cleanup carrying over to C#, sure if you've never had to craft your memory allocs to use more stack allocs vs. heap allocs for auto-cleanup or pay attention to delete'ing your new'ed vars, you can still code leakless C# apps. However, the aforementioned practices are still valuable in .Net as a whole. Think about the use of the \"using\" statement in conjunction with IDisposable for the former scenario. And for memory leaks, you may not get those if you aren't accustomed to cleaning up your own allocs, but you can still get leaks of other, non-GC'ed resources, such as database handles and COM object references. You can effectively orphan these things even with the GC'er.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_12:38:14", "killed": false, "user_key": "ffae666ed0f2f8ab84f6569b2295c460", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679558": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\u201cThis is a bummer, because .NET is a lot easier to write than C++ \"<br><br>You obviously don't know this from experience.  Aren't you basically repeating things that others have told you?  You DO understand the differences between \u00c7++ and .Net, right? The fact that one is a programming language and one is a development platform?  Perhaps you meant to compare the differences between C++ and C#?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_12:32:26", "killed": false, "user_key": "26493d7270fb206c1e08599674e51e5a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679559": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The cancelation has more to do with Ray Ozzie and Steven Sinofsky's desire for secrecy more than anything<br>else.<br>The days of MSFT giving the longview of their coming products is over.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_12:07:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "aba6e77dd14a6ba0fc2e7e5f07db3908", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679560": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "When Steve Sinofsky ran the Office team, it was difficult if not impossible to get information out them. They ran a tight ship with little leaks. Why are we surprised at not hearing much about the next Windows now that he runs that group?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_11:45:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "008c45c68ff49184796deda5faca4126", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679561": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"This is a bummer, because .NET is a lot easier to write than C++ and letting Microsoft\u2019s developers write .NET code for Windows would unleash a bunch of innovation.\"<br><br>I'm pretty sure the core of Windows is C there Robert, not C++. You see, even C++ is not performant enough to write schedulers and low level IO.<br>.NET makes writing very high level apps easy, it does not make writing system code easy at all. It makes it harder.<br>Where you could just manipulate memory, now you have to go through several levels of indirection with .NET or Java.<br><br>I can understand how Robert is confused only having a very high level understanding of programming and technology though.<br><br>I would suggest he buy a little AVR starter kit:<br><a href=\"http://www.smileymicros.com/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.smileymicros.com/</a><br>and<br><a href=\"http://www.avrfreaks.net/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.avrfreaks.net/</a><br><br>for further info. Once he does the little \"kid level\" kit, his posts will snap into correctness. It's worth it Scoble.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-26_20:36:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8d0dde0c4b3d65b72a92bba1fee5aa7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679562": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "There are plenty of reasons to encourage .NET for reasons within the Windows ecosystem, that have nothing to do with competitors to Windows that Microsoft is 'trying to destroy'. One thing is .NET code is safer than what the average programmer would do, one is that if all major applications are on a virtual layer with .NET it will be easier to change the core of Windows without breaking things, one is that they can encourage different practices, including like parallel computing, by building .NET libraries around it, one is that it makes the system potentially more object-oriented and accessible to object-oriented systems, one is that there are advantages to WPF and other WinFX pillars that will make more attractive applications for Windows,... well, so, the point is people who hate Microsoft assume that there's no reason at all to have a coherent, integrated desktop platform, and any attempt to promote it is really on an ulterior level an attempt to destroy competitors because of proprietary tie-in. Sorry, Microsoft-haters, you really don't have the whole story.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-26_20:11:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "1efe17fdbe3f4c0b1237606388ed1a0c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679563": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Silverlight will be ubiquitous by October.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_10:53:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "9b646ff3eeda1f01cc2b1cb86d1634f9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679564": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"Now that Google, Amazon, Apple, are shipping platforms that are more and more interesting to Microsoft\u2019s developer community Microsoft has to play a different game.\"<br><br>This year, palmtop PC (UMPC) will become a real big business.<br>I think Microsofts developer community should focus on this platform!<br>We will really need palmtop-aware applications.<br>:)<br><a href=\"http://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/articles/0705/16/news043.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/articles/0705/16/...</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-26_19:30:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "78a997e52d4ab6ec8f213f6e6cc00ece", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679565": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "That shows you how much confidence they have in silverflash!<br><br>They're going down, down, down...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_10:21:01", "killed": false, "user_key": "0748cf7949cccba7d1371f5ccff2a36d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679566": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "You are off on this one.<br><br>PDC is about *developers*. There is a huge new release of Visual Studio coming in the fall (\"Orcas\"), and a huge new release of SQL server (\"katmai\").<br><br>These things are the bread and butter of PDC. This is the PERFECT time to have a PDC. There is absolutely no reason for MS to cancel it unless they are really floundering.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_10:13:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "707f27812c3a735e0f352a9b1f7e2489", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679567": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "What I meant about C++ is that, over years of doing c++ little techniques to manage the complexity become second nature.   Things like 'oh, I just created a heap object here, before I write the code that uses it I'm going to jump to the disposal spot and write the delete call'.  Or 'hmm, there is no one place to put the delete call.  That's a bad idea, let me redesign this.'   There are dozens, if not hundreds of things like this that any seasoned decent c++ guy will do automatically, because he's had to spend time fixing the code that didn't do them.<br><br>Guys who've never spent time in the trenches in a non-GC language don't have this.  So if they do end up having to work in c++, even if they're now experienced developers I'm going to have to treat them like entry-level guys.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_10:00:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "7aa724ee5ac80219796bff97beefdd14", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679568": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "We have dual core processors on our laptops today, in a year we'll have quad core and soon after eight core.<br><br>Multi-core, multi-threaded managed code is our developer platform destiny.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_09:35:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "9b646ff3eeda1f01cc2b1cb86d1634f9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679570": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Thanks for sharing this info with us Scoble.<br><br>Its funny both Java and .NET are byte code based languages  and Sun on onther hand is trying they can to push JRE as platform but doesnt seem to have lot of success except some success in mobile phone market, which in my opinion is already crowded. I do not have any benchmark on how well Java performs but given how far .NET has come (specially with 3.0 and 3.5) I am still betting my horses on .NET<br><br>I recently talked to one of the CLR team members and they certainy are aware of this issue and my impresssion was that they are close to solving the loading issue. We have to wait and see how things folds in next 6-12 months.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_09:33:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "34678fdabe8d03700e9e79ed03c8d90a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679571": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Are you kidding me?  An OS built with .net? Why would you think that an app framework could be used to build an OS?  Man, take the time to understand what you're saying here.  An OS is not in any way, shape or form like some garage-based web 2.0 project built by a 4th grader.  An OS is serious stuff and has different and special requirements that plain old apps don't.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_09:30:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "b5a59eb5060ecf5d575f03d9d84ca6d4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679572": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "&gt;&gt;The person who told me this (who works at Microsoft) told me .NET still takes too long to startup and load into memory<br><br>This is one of the big reasons why many of us are still supporting asp and com based web applications.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_08:59:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "f7e397a13046f16a355b68a065898271", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679573": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"The person who told me this (who works at Microsoft) told me .NET still takes too long to startup and load into memory and because Windows is now being compared to OSX they can\u2019t afford to ship components that would slow down Windows.\"<br><br>Robert Scoble<br><br>Are you kidding me? how could that hurt,OSX may be a nice OS, but fast isn't something that comes to mind.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_08:57:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "aba6e77dd14a6ba0fc2e7e5f07db3908", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679574": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Robert your sooo predictable,I told you before,get out of the Valley, your becoming a cheerleader for Google and any other company  in the area, just as bad as when your worked for MSFT.<br><br>Move to Texas or something,no then you would be preaching to the masses about Dell and the Dallas Cowboys.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_08:53:35", "killed": false, "user_key": "aba6e77dd14a6ba0fc2e7e5f07db3908", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679575": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"Alex? So much cool stuff? Silverlight indeed was cool but was a repurposing of .NET and wasn\u2019t that major.\"<br><br>Ah but I think you are missing the importance of things like Astoria... I have pretty good idea of the long term direction of Astoria and it is pretty much going to take us into the realm of Intentional Programming. I have a whole series of posts on this stretching back over a year now. This was the first: <a href=\"http://www.base4.net/blog.aspx?ID=36\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.base4.net/blog.aspx?ID=36</a><br><br>See the value in REST is that it forces you to create intentional systems. And there is no better way to integrate systems... and some people at Microsoft get that now.<br><br>More importantly intentional systems plus meta-data about those systems will make it possible to create smart interfaces that allow for end-users not programmers to program systems (albeit by simply expressing their intent), the possibilities for the end-user experience and giving power to users are enormous...<br><br>but then maybe I am getting ahead of myself!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_08:26:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "ef0b5680532c0e0fac2fe20ef4b01929", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679576": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>Of course the Mac will always be treated as a second class citizen. Silverlight was about beating Adobe\u2019s Flex/Flash. I don\u2019t remember DirectX being built into Flash either.</i><br><br>That's because you can't run Direct X on anything but Windows. For Direct X to be in Flash would be quite stupid.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_07:41:54", "killed": false, "user_key": "422187df3c45655b0dc2ae5de0710b27", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679577": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Contrast this to Google who is holding a huge developer day next week (it sold out, so I won\u2019t even bother linking to it). Or Facebook, who held a big developer-centric shindig today.<br><br>You are really comparing the incomparables here. Like a few people pointed out in the comments here, Mix '07 was a huge event and there's a lot going on with respect to DLR. There's nothing half as exciting IMHO, from Google land.<br><br>As for the Facebook announcement, Microsoft also did a demo there talking about Popfly integration in Facebook.<br><br>The PDC being postponed does not indicate a slack in what Microsoft does for developers. You are just reading too much between the lines.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_06:16:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "fe6f6f149bbbba5ae6dfbae0693db628", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679578": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Scoble, I don't doubt you, I'm just saying it is possible for windows to do the same, I guess it depends on the hardware. I'll be swapping out my G4 Mac for a MacBook soonish, so I can see the difference then.<br><br>Re: your channel 9 work. That was the reason I started going there, I really enjoyed your videos, and I enjoy your podtech videos too. Given the fact that was the main content on the site, I think your surveys were right ;)<br><br>Would be nice to see some more discussions like the Vista/OSX video you did earlier in the year - I really enjoyed that.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-26_08:25:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "f3397fc47c9cff784f6fbb703b954e33", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679579": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Actually, Stephane...it's idiotic to state that you'll avoid memory leaks in C++ if you \"stay disciplined\". The same thing obviously applies to C#. The same applies to .Net. You'll avoid memory leaks if you also \"stay disciplined\". Forget the marketing literature. Personally, I can't think of any our current .Net projects...we have at least 15 or so large scale systems out in the wild today...that have memory leak issues. I shudder to think how long it would have taken to reach feature parity on these projects had we used C++.<br><br>Oh and Robert, I think you'll find that most .Net devs don't actually care all that much that there is no \"OMG!! another new dev platform!!!!1\", if anything, we've been barraged with them for the past few years and it's hard to keep up.<br><br>Non story if you ask me.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_03:44:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "1b4a803a20ad950d945a06235662cfce", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679580": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Gotta love Microsoft's delays. It's like the OS that almost never happens.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-26_07:10:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "6aa6fdb6ea5f7437565945a722f75359", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679581": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Scoble said \"But almost no Vista code was written in .NET (if any, actually). \"<br><br>I thought Media Center and some of the applets were written in C#?<br><br>I'm not sure what the issue is with performance, I use Expression Blend all the time and it seems just fine to me (and it is all WPF). Sure, you wouldn't want to use C# for core bits of the OS but for apps it would seem OK.<br><br>Before they worry about competing with OSX in terms of performance they need to compete in terms of security and usability.<br><br>You are coming to a sad realization. Cancel or allow?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_03:34:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "ae1ad09a64c2d9bfa5ff5ecfa9b68378", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679582": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"But almost no Vista code was written in .NET (if any, actually). Microsoft tries to keep this secret because they know it gives a black eye to .NET\"<br><br>\"The original plan for Longhorn was to build lots of components on top of the next version of the .Net Framework,\" according to one of our developer sources, who requested anonymity. \"But given how late (.Net Framework 2.0) is, and how new it would be (Microsoft Chairman) Bill Gates realized it would be foolish to build important pieces of Longhorn on top of .Net.\"<br>(<a href=\"http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/developer/the_dirty_little_secret_about_longhorn.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/develope...</a>)<br><br>- I believe a lot of Vistas Media Center was written in managed code.<br><br>The following blog entries outline some of the other MS products using managed code.<br><br><a href=\"http://blogs.msdn.com/danielfe/archive/2005/12/16/504847.aspx\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://blogs.msdn.com/danielfe/archive/2005/12/...</a><br><a href=\"http://blogs.msdn.com/danielfe/archive/2004/11/02/251254.aspx\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://blogs.msdn.com/danielfe/archive/2004/11/...</a><br><br>I definitely think a managed kernel wont be in Windows for a while, but services within windows itself could take advantage of managed code.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_03:19:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "b3bc6ffac4ac67a8fe30e426a0ea148f", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679583": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@63 - given you're such a tech genius, I'm surprised you haven't considered it could be the HARDWARE that is slow to wake up? My Dell takes less than a second.<br><br>But I'm sure you'll pull out some self-created stat to justify your all-knowingness. Just cos c9 had a bunch of hits in the early days is NOT a validation of the technical content level or quality. It's probably all the moms you were asking questions for :-)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-26_06:17:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "f9cddcbb7d74dd9b3ce0c2b3ef23eb54", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679584": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"the problem with using .net internally in Vista is that processes can\u2019t use more than one version of the .net runtime.\"<br><br>It's indeed one of the problems, even though a fix for that is to proxy calls to outside EXEs. Doing so means that you are back to good ol' COM infrastructure...<br><br>What Microsoft faces with this (remember: it's just one problem), is also faced by anybody out there. For instance, if you are deployed an Excel addin written in .NET, you are at the mercy of everyone else's Excel addin which are loaded before you. It's a non-starter except for trivial addins that are version independent.<br><br><br>\"But I\u2019d hate to have to work with new guys coming up in c++ who haven\u2019t had the practices beat into them that avoid c++ problems like memory leaks. c# avoids some (but not all) of that.\"<br><br>C++ memory leaks? Sure, if you are not disciplined, it will burn you. But frankly, if you are building on a proper infrastructure, all your allocations are properly wrapped, and it does not leak.<br>In .NET, I would not say this thing does not leak. First because there is the perception of leak, just do a loop that creates new Strings, and because if your code (or a library you depend on) uses any COM/PInvoke transition, then you are back to square one. For instance, System.Drawing is a wrapper of GDI+. GDI/GDI+ is severely limited by what's known as the \"desktop heap\". All the wrong conclusions follow, despite that you are using .NET", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_02:52:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "d41616621cee9eeb674397011bd0bd35", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679585": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "As I understand it, the problem with using .net internally in Vista is that processes can't use more than one version of the .net runtime.  So that pretty much eliminates it from usage in any DLL that developers would link to, because otherwise we'd be locked into whatever version of the runtime they developed against.<br><br>I suspect complete, standalone apps could be written in .net with no problems, but there really isn't much of that in the OS.<br><br>Note:  I was a c++ developer for years, but have been developing in c# exclusively for about the last 4.  I wouldn't have a problem going back to c++.  But I'd hate to have to work with new guys coming up in c++ who haven't had the practices beat into them that avoid c++ problems like memory leaks.  c# avoids some (but not all) of that.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-25_02:21:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "7aa724ee5ac80219796bff97beefdd14", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679586": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Will: well, I have a dual-core Sony Vaio which takes several seconds to get out of sleep mode while my new Mac gets out of sleep mode almost instantly. Maybe I should video tape the two coming out of sleep mode so you can see how much faster the Mac is.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-26_06:03:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "3553f5e0db0fd1ec4e40a932a2d8f5b3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679587": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Scoble, RE: #44.<br><br>My vista machine boots out of sleep mode before my monitor has an image on the screen, you can't get much faster than that!<br><br>I guess OSX's speed is due to a few things, firstly the limited range of hardware it has to support would mean apple can tweak for that exact hardware and leave out everything else.<br>Secondly, before the Intel switch the G4/G5 cpus meant that Apple *had* to optimize their software, whilst the PC camp was enjoying ever higher clock speeds and overall faster CPU's so it was less of an issue - windows got faster by default.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-26_06:01:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f3397fc47c9cff784f6fbb703b954e33", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679588": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "David Balder: I'm not talking about Minesweeper. In case you haven't noticed, Vista has a lot more built-in games than XP.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-29_03:06:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "ffae666ed0f2f8ab84f6569b2295c460", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679589": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"For years, OSX\u2019s Finder wasn\u2019t written on top of Cocoa\u2019s API.\"<br><br>It still isn't.<br><br>\" Did that mean that Cocoa sucked?\"<br><br>No, it means that the Finder sucks.<br><br>Seriously, the Finder is the saddest example of political compromises in Apple's entirety of software offerings.  I hope they'll finally take it out behind the barn and shoot it in time for leopard, but I'm not holding my breath.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-29_22:45:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "8f8ff21a67437febebc70afd19364e95", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679590": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"Apple\u2019s WWDCs, which, despite the \u201cDC\u201d in the name, are aimed at consumers rather than devs. \"<br><br>What are you, stupid or something?   You've obviously never attended Apple's developer conference.  Take a look at the session descriptions, and then try to tell me that WWDC is for consumers.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-29_22:41:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "8f8ff21a67437febebc70afd19364e95", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9679591": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@Diego - You are talking about things (red/blue) which weren't even planned properly when Longhorn was heading into beta. If you know anything about what happened for the Longhorn reset (I do and most commentators I've seen do not) you would know there were both political and technical reasons for the mandate against managed code.<br><br>Incidentally, Robert is completely correct that startup times (working set goals not being reached, among other things) and versioning (servicing and of the CLR and of libraries, especially for platform features) were key technical issues, though there were others. It is also true that managed code itself was not always the main problem, and that many solutions to the problems had been considered.<br><br><br>@.Net versus C/C++ - this is a religious debate to some extent but it is very true that C# managed code development of libraries is of higher quality and quicker turnaround than C++ development. I would say undeniable but that is too strong. This is not just for buffer overruns and memory leaks, though those are the poster children. Debuggability and code analysis, in fact maintenance in general is much easier and quicker for managed code.<br><br>There is a cost for using managed code however.<br><br><br>@Robert - I do agree with your overall sentiment that Microsoft should be learning from the embarassments of the Hailstorm and WinFS announcements / followed by cuts, for example.  I do think that comparing Microsoft to Facebook and finding it wanting is kind of an overreach on your part, though you are I guess narrowly focused now on the Web 2.0 development sphere or whatever you hip folk are calling it now :)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2007-05-31_04:21:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "45f5d07262bab45a7fbe57990cae8309", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "2 years ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}}, "integration": {"receiver_url": "", "theme": 4, "reply_position": true, "disqus_logo": false}, "timer": {"timer_url": "http://localhost:8005", "thread_id": "18361354", "user_id": "anonymous", "forum_id": "125200", "hash": 6352333251047787058}, "thread": {"total_posts": 0, "paginate": false, "per_page": 0, "slug": "microsoft_postpones_pdc", "num_pages": 1, "days_alive": 0, "realtime_paused": true, "id": 18361354, "num_posts": 76, "closed": true, "queued": false, "killed": false}, "reactions_limit": 10, "context": {"show_reply": false, "use_fb_connect": true, "forum_facebook_key": "faaf467d0f47abde553c3b8e0e1b3570", "use_yahoo": false, "subscribed": false, "use_twitter_signin": true, "use_openid": false, "realtime_speed": 5000}, "reactions_start": 0, "settings": {"debug": false, "disqus_url": "http://disqus.com", "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"}, "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"};
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	this.frames = {};
};

var disqus_popup_reference = null;

if(typeof DsqLocal == 'undefined') {
	DsqLocal = {};
}



/**
 * Dsq.Strings: UI strings
 */
Dsq.Strings = new function() {
	this.ADD_NEW_COMMENT = "Add New Comment";
	this.LOG_INTO_DISQUS = "Log into DISQUS";
	this.USE_MEDIA = "Use Media";
	this.LOGOUT = "Logout";
	this.SHARING_OPTIONS = "Sharing options";
	this.SHARE_ON = "Share on";
	this.TWEET_THIS_COMMENT = "Tweet this comment";
	this.SHARE_ON_NEWSFEED = "Share on news feed";
	this.SEND_UPDATE_TO_YAHOO = "Send update to Yahoo!";
	this.REBLOG_ON = "Reblog on";
	this.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS = "Configure options";
	this.POST_AS = "Post as";
	this.SORT_BY = "Sort by";
	this.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL = "Subscribe by email";
	this.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS = "Subscribe by RSS";
	this.POPULAR_NOW = "Popular now";
	this.BEST_RATING = "Best Rating";
	this.NEWEST_FIRST = "Newest first";
	this.OLDEST_FIRST = "Oldest first";
	this.HIGHLIGHTED = "Highlighted";
	this.UNSUBSCRIBE = "Unsubscribe";
	this.REQUIRED = "Required";
	this.OPTIONAL = "Optional";
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	this.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS = "Do not subscribe to comments";
	this.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS = "Real-time updating is";
	this.ENABLED = "enabled";
	this.PAUSED = "paused";
	this.PAUSE = "Pause";
	this.RESUME = "Resume";
	this.SHOW = "Show";
	this.JUST_NOW = "Just now";
	this.REPLY = "Reply";
	this.EDIT = "Edit";
	this.FLAG = "Flag";
	this.MODERATE = "Moderate";
	this.CANCEL = "Cancel";
	this.REPLYING_TO = "Replying to";
	this.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS = "Report missing reactions";
	this.POST_A_COMMENT = "Post a comment";
	this.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT = "Flag inappropriate comment";
	this.FLAGGED = "Flagged";
	this.NO = "No";
	this.YES = "Yes";
	this.NEVER_MIND = "Never mind";
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	this.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION = "This will flag comments for moderators to take action";
	this.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN = "To rate, please log in";
	this.JUST_A_MOMENT = "Just a moment...";
	this.GUEST = "Guest";
	this.NAME = "Name";
	this.EMAIL = "Email";
  this.WEBSITE = "Website";
  this.SETTINGS = "Settings";
  this.MODERATOR_OPTIONS = "Moderator options: ";
  this.MODERATE_OPTIONS = "Moderate Options";

  // Thread moderator actions
  this.CLOSE_THREAD = "Close thread";
  this.OPEN_THREAD = "Open thread";
  this.REMOVE_THREAD = "Remove thread";
  this.RESTORE_THREAD = "Restore thread";
  this.ACTIONS = "Actions";
};
// Dsq.Strings

/**
 * Dsq.FmtStrings: functions that return interpolated UI strings
 */
Dsq.FmtStrings = new function() {
	// Seems we have to use named interpolation for Django to translate. Investigate more.
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		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logged in as %(username)s', {username:username});
	};

	this.LOGOUT_FROM = function(disqus) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logout from %(disqus)s', {disqus:disqus});
	};

	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL = function(total, num) {
		if (num === 1) {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> of <span id='dsq-total-posts'>%(total)s</span> comment", {num:num, total:total});
		} else {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> of <span id='dsq-total-posts'>%(total)s</span> comments", {num:num, total:total});
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	};

	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION = function(num) {
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			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comment", {num:num});
		} else {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comments", {num:num});
		}
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s comment'
				: '%(num)s comments'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_LIKES = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s like'
				: '%(num)s likes'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_POINTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s point'
				: '%(num)s points'
			), {num:num});
	};
};
// Dsq.FmtStrings





Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN = 'a2d140c59df8cd4ce27a20e0829cacd8';
Dsq.COMMENTS_RE = /(<li.*?id="?dsq-comment-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/li>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_RE = /(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-header-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/div>)\s*(<div.*?class="?dsq-comment-body"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_BODY_RE = /\s*(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-message-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
// HACK: Safari ends with "-->" while other browsers end with "--&gt;" as expected.
Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE = /&lt;!--\[(.*?)\]--(?:>|&gt;)/gim;



var FragmentPacket = function(reader, writer, writer_url, is_child, receiveCallback) {
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	this.reader = reader;
	this.writer = writer;
	this.writer_url = writer_url;

	this.is_child = is_child || false;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;

	this._lastHash = null;

	this._accumMsg = '';

	this._lastSeqno = 0;

	this.MAX_DATA_LEN	= 1024;

	this.WAIT_TIME		= 10;

	this.READY		= 0x1;
	this.WRITING	= 0x2;
	this.FIN		= 0x4;
	this.ACK		= 0x8;

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;
	var listener = function() {
		that.recv();
	};
	return window.setInterval(listener, 10);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.log = function(msg) {



};

FragmentPacket.prototype.recv = function() {
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		hash = this.reader.name;
	} else {

		var hashIndex = this.reader.location.href.indexOf('#');
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			return;
		}
		hash = this.reader.location.href.substring(hashIndex+1);
	}
	var flags = parseInt(hash.substring(0, 4), 10);
	var seqno = parseInt(hash.substring(4, 24), 10);
	var data  = hash.substring(24);

	if (this._lastHash !== hash) {
		this._lastHash = hash;
		this.log('recv: ' + hash);

		this.log(' flags: ' + flags);
		this.log(' seqno: ' + seqno + ' len: ' + hash.substring(4, 24).length + ' (' + hash.substring(4, 24) + ')');
		this.log(' data: ' + data + ' len: ' + data.length);

		this._lastSeqno = seqno;

		if (flags & this.WRITING) {
			this._accumMsg += data;
			this.sendFlag(this.ACK, seqno);
			if (flags & this.FIN) {
				this.log('recv finished: ' + decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));
				this.receiveCallback(decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));

				this._accumMsg = '';

				this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
			}
		}
	}

	return {
		flags: flags,
		seqno: seqno,
		data: data
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};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendRawPacket = function(packet) {
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {
		this.writer.name = packet;
	} else {

		this.writer.location.href = this.writer_url + '#' + packet;
	}

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendFlag = function(flag, seqno) {
	this.sendRawPacket(this._zerofill(flag, 4) + this._zerofill(seqno, 20));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {
	this._send(0, encodeURIComponent(msg));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._send = function(packetNum, msg) {
	var that = this;
	var recvBuf = this.recv();

	if (packetNum === 0) {

		if (!(recvBuf.flags & this.READY)) {
			this.log('client is not ready, waiting...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		}
	} else {

		if (!( (recvBuf.flags & this.ACK) && (recvBuf.seqno === this._lastSeqno) )) {
			this.log('waiting for ack from client...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		} else {
			this.log('received ack: ' + this._lastSeqno + ' ' + recvBuf.seqno);
		}
	}

	var flags = this.WRITING;
	var num_packets = Math.ceil(msg.length / this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	this.log('num_packets: ' + num_packets);

	if (num_packets === packetNum) {

		this.log('message successfully sent!');
		this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
		return true;
	}

	this._lastSeqno++;

	if (packetNum == num_packets-1) {
		flags |= this.FIN;
	}

	var data = msg.substring(packetNum * this.MAX_DATA_LEN, (packetNum+1) * this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	var packet = this._zerofill(flags, 4) + this._zerofill(this._lastSeqno, 20) + data;

	this.log('sending raw packet: ' + packet);
	this.sendRawPacket(packet);

	return this._send(packetNum + 1, msg);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._zerofill = function(num, width) {
	var retval = num.toString();
	var retval_len = retval.length;
	for (var i = 0; i < width - retval_len; i++) {
		retval = '0' + retval;
	}
	return retval;
};

var PostMessagePacket = function(receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId) {
	var that = this;
	this.receiver = receiver;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;
	this.id = id;


	this.receiverId = receiverId;
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;

	var listener = function(e) {

		if (!that.id) {
			that.id = e.data;
			return;
		}


		var id = e.data.split(';')[0];
		if (id !== that.id) {
			return;
		}
		var data = e.data.substring(e.data.indexOf(';') + 1);

		that.receiveCallback(data);
	};

	if (typeof window.attachEvent == 'function') {
		window.attachEvent('onmessage', listener);
	} else if (typeof window.addEventListener == 'function') {
		window.addEventListener('message', listener, false);
	} else {
		throw new Error('No method found to create event listener for PostMessagePacket.');
	}
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {



	var needs_reget = false;
	try {
		if (typeof this.receiver.id == 'undefined' || typeof this.receiver.postMessage == 'undefined') {
			needs_reget = true;
		}
	} catch(e) {


	}
	if (needs_reget && typeof this.receiverId != 'undefined') {
		this.receiver = document.getElementById(this.receiverId).contentWindow;
	}

	var packet;
	if (!msg) {

		packet = this.id;
	} else {
		packet = this.id + ';' + msg;
	}
	this.receiver.postMessage(packet, '*');
};

PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = null;
PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id = function() {
	var id = (new Date()).getTime();
	if (id == PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id) {
		id++;
	}
	PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = id;
	return id.toString();
};

var JsonRpc = function() {

	this.ids = {};

	this.objectToJSON = function(obj) {
		var json = '';
		var results = [];

		if (obj === undefined || obj === null) {
			return 'null';
		}

		switch (obj.constructor) {
			case Object:
				for (var property in obj) {
					if (obj.hasOwnProperty(property)) {
						results.push(this.objectToJSON(property) + ': ' + this.objectToJSON(obj[property]));
					}
				}
				json = '{' + results.join(', ') + '}';
				break;
			case Array:
				for (var i = 0; i < obj.length; i++) {
					results.push(this.objectToJSON(obj[i]));
				}
				json = '[' + results.join(', ') + ']';
				break;
			case Number:
			case Boolean:
				json = obj.toString();
				break;
			case String:

				var specialChars = {'\b': '\\b', '\t': '\\t', '\n': '\\n', '\f': '\\f', '\r': '\\r', '\\': '\\\\'};

				json = obj.replace(/[\x00-\x1f\\]/g, function(match) {
					var ch = specialChars[match];
					return ch ? ch : '\\u00' + match.charCodeAt().toPaddedString(2, 16);
				});

				json = '"' + json.replace(/"/g, '\\"') + '"';
				break;
			default:

				json = 'null';
				break;
		}

		return json;
	};

	this.createHandler = function(send_func, registered_funcs) {
		var that = this;
		var handler = function(message) {

			try {
				var rpc = eval('(' + message + ')');
			} catch(e) {
				alert('bad JSON: ' + message);
				return;
			}
			if (rpc.method) {

				if (!registered_funcs[rpc.method]) {
					return;
				}

				var retval = registered_funcs[rpc.method].apply(null, rpc.params);
				if (rpc.id) {
					var response = {
						result: retval,
						error: null,	// TODO
						id: rpc.id
					};
					send_func(that.objectToJSON(response));
				}
			} else if(rpc.result) {

				if (!that.ids[rpc.id]) {
					return;
				}

				that.ids[rpc.id](rpc.result);
				delete that.ids[rpc.id];
			}
		};
		return handler;
	};

	this.execute = function(send_func, method, params, response_callback) {
		response_callback = response_callback || null;
		var id = (response_callback) ? (new Date()).getTime() : null;

		var request = {
			method: method,
			params: params,
			id: id
		};

		send_func(this.objectToJSON(request));

		if (id) {
			this.ids[id] = response_callback;
		}
	};
};
JsonRpc = new JsonRpc();

var ParentMessenger = function(childUrl, receiverUrl, container, receiveCallback) {


	if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Safari') >= 0 && parseInt(navigator.userAgent.substring(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Version/') + 8), 10) == 3) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	} else if (window.opera) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}



	if (!receiverUrl &&
		navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Gecko') >= 0 &&
		parseFloat(navigator.userAgent.slice(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 3, navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 6)) < 1.9) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}


	if (/msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent)) {


		if (document.domain == window.location.hostname) {
			receiverUrl = '';
		}
	}

	var that = this;
	this.childUrl = childUrl;
	this.receiverUrl = receiverUrl;
	this.container = container || document.body;

	this.packetHandler = null;


	this._ready = false;
	this._error = false;


	var _createReceiverForFragmentPacket = function() {

		that.receiver = document.createElement('iframe');
		that.receiver.src = receiverUrl;
		that.receiver.id = 'receiver_' + (new Date()).getTime();
		that.receiver.name = that.receiver.id;

		that.receiver.frameBorder = '0';
		that.receiver.frameSpacing = '0';
		that.receiver.style.borderStyle = 'none';

		var receiver_onload = function() {
			var receiver = document.getElementById(that.receiver.id).contentWindow;

			try {
				receiver.document.body.innerHTML = '';
			} catch(e) {

				that._error = true;
			}
			receiver.document.body.style.padding = '0px';
			receiver.document.body.style.margin = '0px';

			var child = receiver.document.createElement('iframe');
			child.id = 'child';
			child.name = 'child';
			child.src = that.childUrl;

			child.frameBorder = '0';
			child.frameSpacing = '0';
			child.style.borderStyle = 'none';
			child.style.width = '100%';
			child.style.height = '100%';
			receiver.document.body.appendChild(child);

			that.child = receiver.document.getElementById('child').contentWindow;
			that.receiver = receiver;

			that.packetHandler = new FragmentPacket(that.receiver, that.child, that.childUrl, false, receiveCallback);

			that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();

			that.packetHandler.sendFlag(that.packetHandler.READY, 0);

			that._ready = true;
		};

		that.receiver.onreadystatechange = function() {
			if (this.readyState == 'complete') {
				receiver_onload();
			}
		};

		that.receiver.onload = receiver_onload;







		if (Dsq.Utils.ie) {
			if (that.container.clientWidth === 0) {

				var _waitForWidth = function() {
					if (that.container.clientWidth > 0) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					} else {
						window.setTimeout(_waitForWidth, 100);
					}
				};
				_waitForWidth();

				that._once = false;
				that.receiver.onresize = function() {
					if (!that._once) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					}
					that._once = true;
				};
			}
		}

		that.container.appendChild(that.receiver);
	};


	var _createReceiverForPostMessage = function() {

		var receiver_onload = function() {

			that.packetHandler.send();
			that._ready = true;
		};

		var id = PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id();
		var receiverId = 'child_' + id;


		ParentMessenger['_receiver_onload_' + receiverId] = receiver_onload;

		that.container.innerHTML += '<iframe ' +
			'src="' + childUrl + '" ' +
			'id="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'name="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'onload="ParentMessenger._receiver_onload_' + receiverId +'();" ' +
			'></iframe>';

		that.receiver = document.getElementById(receiverId).contentWindow;
		that.packetHandler = new PostMessagePacket(that.receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId);
		that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();
	};

	if (typeof window.postMessage == 'function') {
		_createReceiverForPostMessage();
	} else {
		_createReceiverForFragmentPacket();
	}

};

ParentMessenger.prototype.sendMessage = function(message) {
	var that = this;
	if (!this._ready) {

		window.setTimeout(function() { that.sendMessage(message); }, 10);
		return;
	}
	this.packetHandler.send(message);
	return true;
};

Dsq.NewFrames = function(url) {
	this.url = url;
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype.init = function(onFailure) {
	var that = this;

	try {
		this.messenger = new ParentMessenger(this.url, Dsq.jsonData.integration.receiver_url, this.container, this.receive_callback);
	} catch(e) {
		if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
			onFailure();
		}
	}

	if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
		var iId = window.setInterval(function() {
			if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				return;
			}
			if (that.messenger._ready) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
			} else if (that.messenger._error) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				onFailure();
			}
		}, 10);
	}
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype._execute = function(method, args, callback) {
	var that = this;
	if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
		return false;
	}
	JsonRpc.execute(
		function(msg) { that.messenger.sendMessage(msg); },
		method,
		args || [],
		callback);
	return true;
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame = function(container, parent_post_id) {
	var that = this;
	this.container = container;
	this.parent_post_id = parent_post_id;

	var sendFunc = function(msg) {

		Dsq.Debug.log('Dsq.ReplyFrame.sendFunc');
		that.messenger.sendMessage(msg);
	};


	var postComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		Dsq.jsonData.posts[response.message.id] = response.message.post_meta;
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key]) {
			Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key] = response.message.user_meta;
		}


		var reply_position = (typeof(disqus_insert_wrt_sort) == 'undefined' 
			? (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reply_position ? -1 : null) 
			: (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? null : -1));
		
		if (response.message.post_meta.approved) {
			Dsq.Post.insert(response.message.post_meta.parent_post_id || reply_position, response.message.id, response.message.post_meta.message);
		}

		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onSuccess(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var postComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(response.message, 'Error');
		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onFailure(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var editComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);
		
		message.innerHTML = response.message;
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
	
	var editComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('Sorry, there was an error editing this comment.', 'Edit Error');
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	var getUserByEmail_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var msg = response.message;
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(parent_post_id);

		if (msg.username) {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'login', {
				'username': msg.username,
				'display_name': msg.display_name,
				'avatar_url': msg.avatar_url,
				'verified': msg.verified,
				'email': fields.email.value
			});
		} else {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'register');
		}
	};

	var validateAuth_onSuccess = function(response, auth_choice) {
		Dsq.Templates.postComment(parent_post_id, null, true, auth_choice);
	};

	var validateAuth_onFailure = function(response, auth_choice) {
		var pid = parent_post_id ? '-' + parent_post_id : '';
		var msg = response.message;

		if (auth_choice == 'register') {
			var fields = ['email', 'username', 'password'];

			for (var i = 0; i < fields.length; i++) {
				var field = fields[i];
				var errorDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-' + field + '-errors' + pid);

				if (msg[field]) {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = msg[field];
				} else {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = '';
				}
			}
		} else if (auth_choice == 'login') {
			Dsq.$('dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid).innerHTML = '<p>We couldn\'t log you in. Please verify your login.</p>';
		}
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.receive_callback = JsonRpc.createHandler(sendFunc, {
		'postComment.onSuccess': postComment_onSuccess,
		'postComment.onFailure': postComment_onFailure,
		'editComment.onSuccess': editComment_onSuccess,
		'editComment.onFailure': editComment_onFailure,		
		'getUserByEmail.onSuccess': getUserByEmail_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onSuccess': validateAuth_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onFailure': validateAuth_onFailure,
		'reload': function() { window.location.reload(); }
	});

	this.url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY +
		'?' + (new Date()).getTime() +
		'&f=scobleizer' +
		'&t=microsoft_postpones_pdc' +
		'&ff=' + Dsq.Thread.ff +
		'&default_text=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_default_text) +
		'&ifrs=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css);
	if (this.parent_post_id) {
		this.url += '&parent_post=' + this.parent_post_id;
	}
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype = new Dsq.NewFrames(Dsq.ReplyFrame.url);

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.post = function(author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe) {
	this._execute('postComment', [author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.edit = function(post_id, message) {
	this._execute('editComment', [post_id, message]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.setState = function(parent_post_id, depth) {
	this._execute('setState', [parent_post_id, depth]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.getUserByEmail = function(email) {
	this._execute('getUserByEmail', [email]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.validateAuth = function(auth_choice, email, username, password) {
	this._execute('validateAuth', [auth_choice, email, username, password]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.authenticateFacebook = function(session, forum_url) {
	this._execute('authenticateFacebook', [session, forum_url]);
};

	Dsq.Facebook = function() {
	var that = this;

	var handleSessionData = function(session) {

		var forum_url = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;




		if (typeof disqus_facebook_forum != 'undefined') {
			forum_url = disqus_facebook_forum;
		}
		Dsq.frames.reply_0.authenticateFacebook(session, forum_url);
	};

	var onLogin = function() {
		FB.Connect.getSignedPublicSessionData(handleSessionData);
	};

	this.login = function() {
		FB.Connect.requireSession(onLogin, true);
	};
};
Dsq.Facebook = new Dsq.Facebook();


	






Dsq.Themes = {};

Dsq.Themes.narcissus = new function() {
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-form-area';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-textarea-wrapper';



	
	this.header = function() {
		var comments_count, total_posts, num_posts;
		var html = '';
		var missing_perm_tmpl;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.missing_perm) {
			missing_perm_tmpl = Dsq.Templates.missingPermissions();
			if (missing_perm_tmpl) {
				html += '<div class="dsq-missing-permissions">' + missing_perm_tmpl + '</div>';
			}
		}

		total_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.total_posts;
		num_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_posts;

		if (total_posts) {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL(total_posts, num_posts);
		} else {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION(num_posts);
		}

		html += ' \
		<div id="dsq-comments-title"> \
			<h3>' + comments_count + '</h3> \
		</div> \
		';

		html += ' \
		<div class="dsq-options"> \
			<span class="dsq-item-sort">'
				+ Dsq.Strings.SORT_BY + ' \
				<select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);"> \
					<option value="hot" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 4 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.POPULAR_NOW + '</option> \
					<option value="best" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 3 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.BEST_RATING + '</option> \
					<option value="newest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.NEWEST_FIRST + '</option> \
					<option value="oldest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 1 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.OLDEST_FIRST + '</option> \
				</select> \
				&nbsp; \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<span id="dsq-subscribe">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.subscribed
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.UNSUBSCRIBE + '</a>'
						: '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL + '</a>')
				+ '</span> \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-rss" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png" alt="" /> \
				<a href="http://scobleizer.disqus.com/microsoft_postpones_pdc/latest.rss">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS + '</a> \
			</span> \
		</div> \
		';

		
		

		return html;

	};
	
	this.footer = function() {
		var html = '';

		html += Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
		
			html += Dsq.Templates.realtime();
			html += Dsq.Templates.showThreadSettings();
			html += Dsq.Templates.postBox();

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		


		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) {
 			html += ' \
				<div class="dsq-global-moderator-extras">'
					+ '<strong>shortname:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url
					+ '<strong>thread id:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.id
					+ '<strong>thread slug:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.slug
				+ '</div> \
			';
		}

		return html;
	};
	
	this.realtime = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			html += '<div id="dsq-realtime-options" class="dsq-options">'
					 + Dsq.Strings.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS + ' <strong id="dsq-realtime-status" style="text-transform: lowercase">' + Dsq.Strings.ENABLED + '</strong>. \
					 <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-toggle" style="text-transform: capitalize"></a> \
					</div>';
		}

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
			html += ' \
				<div style="display: none" id="dsq-realtime-alert" class="dsq-realtime-alert"><span id="dsq-realtime-queued"></span> <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-show"></a></div> \
			';
		}
		
		return html;
	};

	this.showThreadSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '<div id="dsq-thread-settings" class="dsq-thread-settings">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATOR_OPTIONS;
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showSettings(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.SETTINGS + '</a>';
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showModeratorActions(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>';
		if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled && Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.reportMissingReactions(); return false;">'
						+ Dsq.Strings.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS
						+ '</a>';
		}
		html +='</div>';

		return html;
	};

	this.postBox = function(post_id, use_fallback_iframe) {


		var html;
		var display_sharing_options = Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated;

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post) {
			return '';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.hasOwnProperty(Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain)) {
				display_sharing_options = false;
			}
		}
		
		if (post_id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];				
		}
		
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		var _requestUserInfo = function() {
			var html;



			var user_has_email = false;

			html = '<div class="dsq-request-user-info"> <!-- // If authenticated --> \
				<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT + '?ctkn=' + Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN + '" class="dsq-request-user-logout">' + Dsq.Strings.LOGOUT + '</a> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td rowspan="2">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '')
								+ '<img src="' + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR + '" width="48" height="48" class="dsq-request-user-avatar">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-name">'
								+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
									 ? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '">' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '</span>'
									 : (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_verified
											? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span>'
											: '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span>'))
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '') 
								+ Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username 
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
							+  (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && user_has_email ? ' <small>(<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.remoteAccountSettings(); return false;">change settings</a>)</small>' : '')
							+  (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <small>(<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/info/" target="_blank">change name</a> or <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/avatar/" target="_blank">picture</a>)</small>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-stats"> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count == 1 ? 'comment' : 'comments') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count == 1 ? 'like' : 'likes') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.points + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.points == 1 ? 'point' : 'points') + '</span> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		var _loginOptions = function() {
			var html;
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-authenticate"> \
				<p class="dsq-autheneticate-copy">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
					? Dsq.Strings.YOU_ARE_COMMENTING_AS_A + ' <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. ' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.LOGIN_BELOW + '.'
					: Dsq.Strings.REQUIRED + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.PLEASE_LOGIN_BELOW_TO_COMMENT + '.')
				+ '</p> \
				<ul class="dsq-login-buttons">'
					+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-disqus.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Facebook.login(); return false;"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-facebook.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-twitter.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL(); return false" ><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-openid.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_yahoo ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Yahoo.startYahooConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-yahoo.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
				+ '</ul> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {



				return '<div id="dsq-form-area" style="display:none"><div id="dsq-textarea-wrapper"></div></div>' + _loginOptions();
			} else {
				return '';
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<div id="' + (post_id 
			? 'dsq-reply-post-' + post_id
			: 'dsq-new-post')
		 	+ '" class="dsq-post-area"> \
			<div class="dsq-dc-logo"> \
				<a href="http://disqus.com/comments" target="_blank"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/disqus-logo.png"></a> \
			</div>'
			+ (post_id 
				? '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.REPLYING_TO + ' ' + userData.display_name + '</h3>'
				: '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT + '</h3>')
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated 
				? _requestUserInfo()
				: _loginOptions() )
			+ '<div id="dsq-form-area' + pid + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-textarea"> \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper" id="dsq-textarea-wrapper' + pid + '"></div> \
			</div>'
			+ (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated
			? ' \
			<div class="dsq-post-fields"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-name' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_name ? disqus_def_name : (Dsq.jsonData.session.name ? Dsq.jsonData.session.name : Dsq.Strings.NAME + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-website' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (Dsq.jsonData.session.url ? Dsq.jsonData.session.url : Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')" class="dsq-placeholder') + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" /></div></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-email' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_email ? disqus_def_email : (Dsq.jsonData.session.email ? Dsq.jsonData.session.email : Dsq.Strings.EMAIL + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"> \
							<div class="dsq-subscribe"> \
								<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.chooseSubscribe(' + post_id + '); return false" class="dsq-subscribe-menu"><span id="dsq-subscribe-select' + pid + '">' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post ? Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL : Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS) + '</span> <small>&#9660;</small></a> \
								<ul class="dsq-panel" id="dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid + '"> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(2, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL + '</a></li> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(0, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS + '</a></li> \
								</ul> \
								<input id="dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid + '" type="hidden" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post + '" /> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div>'
			: '')
			+ '<div class="dsq-post-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-sharing-options" ' + (!display_sharing_options ? 'style="display:none;"' : '') + '> \
					<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onfocus="document.getElementById(\'dsq-post-button' + pid + '\').focus();"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.SHARING_OPTIONS + ' <small>&#9660;</small></span></button> \
					<div class="dsq-panel"> '
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '"'
								  + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Twitter</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook
								&& (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.enabled === true ||
										(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'facebook'))
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Facebook</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Yahoo!</label> \
								</div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Tumblr</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Wordpress</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Movable Type</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
								  <label for="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' TypePad</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ '<div><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections/" target="_blank" class="dsq-configure-options">' + Dsq.Strings.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS + '</a></div>'
					+ '</div> \
				</div>'
				+ '<button type="button" class="dsq-button" id="dsq-post-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, false)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.POST_AS + ' '
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					? Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					: Dsq.Strings.GUEST)
				+ '</span></button>'
				+ (post_id
					? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button" id="dsq-cancel-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.CANCEL + '</span></button>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
			+ '</div>' // end dsq-form-area
		+ '</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};




	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-append-post-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		html = ' \
		<table> \
			<tr> \
				<td id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-avatar" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
					<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
					? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
					: '')
				+ '</a> \
				</td> \
				<td class="dsq-comment-header-meta"> \
		';

		
		return html;
	};
	
	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var html;
		var parent_display_name = '';
		
		if(_meta.parent_post_id) {

			var _parent_meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[_meta.parent_post_id];

			if (_parent_meta) {
				var parentUserData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_parent_meta.user_key];
				parent_display_name = parentUserData.display_name;
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png" class="dsq-moderator-star" title="Moderator" /> \
		<span class="dsq-comment-header-time"><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')" title="Permalink">' + (_meta.is_realtime ? Dsq.Strings.JUST_NOW : _meta.date) + '</a></span> '
		+ (_meta.parent_post_id && parent_display_name
			? '<a href="#comment-' + _meta.parent_post_id + '" title="Jump to comment">in reply to ' + parent_display_name + '</a>'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		<td id="dsq-like-pts-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-comment-header-likes">'
		+ (_meta.points
			? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		</tr> \
		</table> \
		';
		return html;
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		var html = '';
		return html;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed || !_meta.approved) { return ''; }
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
					? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.moderateOptions(' + post_id+ '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>'
					: '')
				+ '<a href="#" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG + '</a> \
			</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right">'
				+ (_meta.votable 
					? '<span id="dsq-like-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-like">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1)" >Like</button>'
						: 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;')
					+ '</span>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-post-edit" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + ')" >' + Dsq.Strings.EDIT + '</button>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<span class="dsq-comment-footer-reply" id="dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-comment-footer-reply-tab">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button><span></span> \
					</span>'
					: '')
			+ '</div> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};



	
	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		var item = '<li class="dsq-comment dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-header"> \
			<table> \
			<tr> \
			<td class="dsq-header-avatar"> \
			';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'" class="dsq-avatar">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {

			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar92.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== ''
				? '</a>'
				: '')
			+ '</td>'
			+ '<td><cite class="dsq-comment-cite">' + reaction.author_name + '</cite> <span class="dsq-comment-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</span></td>'
			+ '<td class="dsq-comment-header-likes"></td>'
			+ '</tr></table></div>' // end dsq-comment-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header" \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-reaction-header-left">'
							+ '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png" />'
							+ ' From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
							+ 'via <a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? 'BackType' : 'UberVU') + '</a>'
						+ '</td>'
						+ '<td class="dsq-reaction-header-right">';

			if(reaction.retweets) {
				var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
				if (num_retweets > 0) {
					if (num_retweets == 1) {
						item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
					} else {
						item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');
						item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
						var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 3) ? 3 : num_retweets;
						item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);
						if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
							item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
								+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
						}
					}
				}
			}	
			item += '</td></tr> \
			</table> \
			</div>' // end dsq-reaction-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-body"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left"> \
				</div>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator 
					? ' \
					<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right"> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-hide-reaction" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + ')">Hide</button> \
					</div>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 id="dsq-reactions-title" class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-container"> \
			<table> \
				<tbody> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-tl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-tr"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-body"> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
								<div class="dsq-popup-title"> \
									<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" style="float:right" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)">Close</button>'
									+ content['header'] 
								+ '</div>'
								+ content['body']
							+ '</div> \
							<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
						</td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-bl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-br"></td> \
					</tr> \
				</tbody> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
	};



	
	this.chooseSubscribe = function(post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		menu.style.display = menu.style.display == 'block' ? 'none' : 'block';
		
	};
	
	this.setSubscribe = function(value, el, post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var input = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid);
		var select = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-select' + pid);
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		select.innerHTML = el.innerHTML;
		input.value = value;
		this.chooseSubscribe(post_id);
	};
	
	this.getFormFields = function(post_id) {

		var fields = {};
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var name = Dsq.$('dsq-field-name' + pid);
		var email = Dsq.$('dsq-field-email' + pid);
		var website = Dsq.$('dsq-field-website' + pid);
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid);
		var password = Dsq.$('dsq-field-password' + pid);

		fields = {
			'name': name,
			'email': email,
			'website': website,
			'username': username,
			'password': password
		}
		
		return fields;
	}
	
	this.validateFields = function(post_id) {
		
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) { return true; }
		
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		
		var nameField = fields.name;
		var websiteField = fields.website;
		var emailField = fields.email;
		
		websiteField.value = (websiteField.value == Dsq.Templates.placeholder['website']) ? '' : websiteField.value;
		
		var v = [{

			validator: Dsq.Validators.name,
			value: nameField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.email,
			value: emailField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.url,
			value: websiteField.value
		}];
		
		return Dsq.Validators.validate(v, function(e) { Dsq.Popup.popModal(e, 'Oops...') } );
	};
	
	this.checkExistingUser = function(post_id) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);		
		Dsq.Popup.loading(post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		}
	};

	this.validateAuth = function(el_clicked, post_id, auth_choice) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		var email = fields.email ? fields.email.value : '';
		var username = fields.username ? fields.username.value : '';
		var password = fields.password ? fields.password.value : '';
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		}
	};

	this.lightboxUpdateEmail = function(post_id, new_email) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		fields.email.value = new_email;
	};

	this.lightboxAuthenticate = function(post_id, auth_choice, auth_data) {
		var title, body;
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		if(typeof(auth_data) == 'undefined') {
			var auth_data = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		}

		d = auth_data;

		switch(auth_choice) {
			case 'register':
				var suggestedUsername = d.name.value.replace(/[^a-zA-Z0-9-]/g,'').toLowerCase();
			
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Register a <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';

				body = ' \
				<ul class="dsq-lightbox-register-reasons"> \
				<li>Verify your comments</li> \
				<li>Edit and delete comments</li> \
				<li>Manage comments and replies</li> \
				</ul> \
				';

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Email</td> \
							<td><input type="text" value="' + d.email.value + '" onchange="Dsq.Templates.lightboxUpdateEmail(' + post_id + ', this.value)" /><div id="dsq-email-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + suggestedUsername + '"/><div id="dsq-username-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /><div id="dsq-password-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'login\'); return false">Login instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button type="button" class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Register and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			case 'login':
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Login to your <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';
				body = '';
				
				if(d.avatar_url) {
					body += '<div class="dsq-lightbox-recognized"><table><tr>';
					body += '<td><img src="' + d.avatar_url + '" alt="" /></td>';
					body += '<td><span class="dsq-badge ' + (d.verified ? 'dsq-badge-verified' : 'dsq-badge-registered') + '">' + (d.verified ? 'Verified' : 'Registered') + '</span></td>';
					body += '<td>Hey <strong>' + d.display_name + '</strong>, is that you? Login below to claim this comment.';
					body += '</tr></table></div>';
				}

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username or Email</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (d.avatar_url ? d.username : '') + '" /></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password <a href="http://disqus.com/forgot" target="_blank">(cannot log in?)</a></td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'register\'); return false">Register instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button type="button" class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Login and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
		Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid).focus();
	};
	
	this.buttonsToRestore = [];
	this.setLoadingButton = function(btn, post_id) {
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		if (btn) {

			var loadingBtn = document.createElement('button');
			loadingBtn.id = btn.id + '-loading';
			loadingBtn.innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-lite.gif" alt="" /> ' + Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
			loadingBtn.className = btn.className + ' dsq-post-loading';
			btn.parentNode.appendChild(loadingBtn);
			btn.style.display = 'none';
			var cancelBtn = Dsq.$('dsq-cancel-button' + pid);
			if(cancelBtn) { cancelBtn.style.display = 'none'; this.buttonsToRestore.push(cancelBtn); }
			this.buttonsToRestore.push(btn);
		} else {

			var buttons = this.buttonsToRestore;
			for(var i = 0; i < buttons.length; i++) {
				buttons[i].style.display = 'inline';
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$(buttons[i].id + '-loading'));
			}
		}
		
	};

	this.postComment = function(post_id, el_clicked, force, auth_choice) {
		var append_id = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);

		if (Dsq.Templates.validateFields(post_id)) {

			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && !force &&
				((!Dsq.Utils.readCookie('skipped_auth') && !disqus_skip_auth && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled) || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post)) {
				Dsq.Templates.checkExistingUser(post_id);
				return false;
			}
			var params = [];
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
				params.push(fields.name.value,
					fields.email.value,
					fields.website.value);

				if (auth_choice == 'login' || auth_choice == 'register') {
					params.push({
						auth_choice: auth_choice,
						username: fields.username.value,
						password: fields.password.value,
						email: fields.email.value
					});
				} else {
					params.push(null);
				}

				params.push(null /* sharing options */, Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + append_id).value);
			} else {
				var service_checked = function(name) {
					var el = Dsq.$('dsq-sharing-' + name + append_id);
					return (el !== null && el.checked === true) ? '1' : '0';
				};
				params.push(null, null, null, null, {
					tw: service_checked('twitter'),
					fb: service_checked('facebook'),
					tr: service_checked('tumblr'),
					wp: service_checked('wordpress'),
					mt: service_checked('movabletype'),
					tp: service_checked('typepad'),
					yh: service_checked('yahoo')
				});
			}

			var frame = Dsq.frames['reply_' + (post_id ? post_id : 0)];
			frame.post.apply(frame, params);

			if (el_clicked) {
				Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
			}
			
			if (force) {
				Dsq.Utils.createCookie('skipped_auth', true);	
			}
			
		} else {
			return false;
		}
	};

	this.editComment = function(el_clicked, post_id) {
		var edited_message = Dsq.$('dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id).value;

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].edit(post_id, edited_message);
	};

	this.toggleEdit = function(post_id) {
		var body = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-body-' + post_id);
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);

		if (!Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id]) {


			message.style.display = 'none';
			if (Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {

				var edit_area = document.createElement('div');
				edit_area.id = 'dsq-edit-' + post_id;
				edit_area.className = 'dsq-edit dsq-textarea';
				edit_area.innerHTML = ' \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper"> \
					<textarea class="dsq-edit-textarea" id="dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id + '">' + message.innerHTML + '</textarea> \
				</div> \
				<div class="dsq-save-edit"> \
					<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.editComment(this, ' + post_id + ')" class="dsq-button-small">Save Edit</button> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id + '" style="display: none"></div> \
				';

				body.appendChild(edit_area);

				if (!Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id), post_id);
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].init();
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
		} else {

			message.style.display = 'block';
			Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id] = !Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id];
	};
	
	this.edit = function(el, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(post_id, button) {
		
		if(!this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

			if (Dsq.$('dsq-reply-post-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id);
				var container = Dsq.$('dsq-textarea-wrapper-' + post_id);
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] && container) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(container, post_id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].init(function() {

						Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id, true);
						Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id).innerHTML = '';

						var theme = (typeof disqus_frame_theme == 'undefined') ? 'default' : disqus_frame_theme;
						Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id), post_id, {theme: theme});

					});
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-append-post';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply-active';
			
		} else {

			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = '';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply';
		}
		
		this.stateReplyToggled[post_id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[post_id];

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie && this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

		}

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: post_id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]
		});
	};
	
	this.moderateOptions = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		if(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) { return false; }

		var html;
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-moderate-options"> \
		<table>'
		+ (_meta.email ? '<tr><td>Email</td><td>' + _meta.email + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ (_meta.ip ? '<tr><td>IP address</td><td>' + _meta.ip + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ '<tr> \
			<td>Actions</td> \
			<td><ul>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
				? '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
				: '')
			+ '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Delete Comment</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li> \
			</ul></td> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		html += '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
		
		return Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Moderate Options', post_id);
	};
	
	this.placeholder = {
		'class': 'dsq-placeholder',
		'name': Dsq.Strings.NAME,
		'email': Dsq.Strings.EMAIL,
		'website': Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')'
	};
	
	this.handlePlaceholder = function(evt, el, key) {
		var placeholder = Dsq.Templates.placeholder[key];
		var className = Dsq.Templates.placeholder['class'];
		
		switch(evt.type) {
			case 'focus':
				if(el.value == placeholder) {
					el.value = '';
					el.className = '';
				}
				break;

			case 'blur':
				if(el.value == '') {
					el.value = placeholder;
					el.className = className;
				}
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
	};
	
	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked) {

		var extra_params = '';

		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked);
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'microsoft_postpones_pdc'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};
	
	
	this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {


		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
			}
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/vote.js'
				+ '?post_id='    + id
				+ '&vote='        + vote);
		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login('To rate, please log in');
		}
	};

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {

		Dsq.$('dsq-like-pts-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.';

		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;';
		}
	};




	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {
		var approved = response.message.post_meta.approved;

		if (parent_post_id) {
			Dsq.Post.toggleReply(parent_post_id);
		}

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
		
		if (approved) {
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		} else {			
			var unapproved_msg = 'Thanks for posting!\
	 Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.\
			';
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(unapproved_msg, 'Comment awaiting approval', post_id);
		}

		var sharing_results = response.message.sharing_results;
		var sharing_errors = '';
		for (var service in sharing_results) {
			if (sharing_results.hasOwnProperty(service) === true) {
				if (sharing_results[service].error === true) {
					sharing_errors += service + ', ';
				}
			}
		}

		if (sharing_results.facebook && sharing_results.facebook.callback) {
			FB.ensureInit(function() {
				FB.Connect.streamPublish('', sharing_results.facebook.attachment);
			});
		}

		if (sharing_errors !== '') {
			var message = 'Your comment was posted, but there were errors sharing with the following connections: ';
			message += sharing_errors.replace(/,\s$/, '');
			message += '<p><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections" target="_blank">Configure your connections here</a></p>'
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sharing options');
		}

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.postComment_onFailure = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
};




// TODO: It might be faster to use string methods to find all <li (...) </li> blocks and pass to Dsq.PostHandler manually.
Dsq.CommentsHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_post = Dsq.Templates.prependPost(post_id);
	var append_post = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(post_id);

	content = content.replace(Dsq.POST_RE, Dsq.PostHandler);
	Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter++;
	head = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContainer(post_id, head);
	return prepend_post + head + content + tail + append_post;
};

Dsq.PostHandler = function(str, h_head, post_id, h_content, h_tail, b_head, b_content, b_tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_header = Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader(post_id);
	var append_header = Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader(post_id);
	var prepend_body = Dsq.Templates.preBody(post_id);
	var append_body = Dsq.Templates.postBody(post_id);
	var append_footer = Dsq.Templates.postFooter(post_id);

	b_content = b_content.replace(Dsq.POST_BODY_RE, Dsq.PostBodyHandler);
	return h_head + prepend_header + h_content + append_header + h_tail + b_head + prepend_body + b_content + append_body + b_tail + append_footer;
};

Dsq.PostBodyHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	content = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContent(post_id, content);
	return head + content + tail;
};

Dsq.MediaPostHandler = function(str, args, offset, s) {
	args = args.split(' ');
	if(args[0] == 'seesmic') {
		return '<br />' + Dsq.Templates.mediaSeesmic(args[1], args[2]);
	}
	return '';
};


/**
 * Shorcuts
 */
Dsq.$ = function(element) { return document.getElementById(element); };
Dsq.$b = document.body || document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0];


/**
 * Dsq.Debug: Logging functions.
 */

Dsq.Debug = new function() {this.log=function(s){};this.profile=function(f){if(typeof f == 'function')return f();else return eval(f);};};


/**
 * Dsq.Urls: URL paths
 */
Dsq.Urls = new function() {
	this.LOGIN = '/profile/login/';
	this.LOGOUT = '/logout/';
	this.REPLY = 'http://scobleizer.disqus.com/microsoft_postpones_pdc/reply.html';
	this.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE = '/AnonymousUser/';
	this.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR = 'http://media.disqus.com/images/noavatar92.png';
};
// Dsq.Urls

/**
 * Dsq.Validators: Validation for form fields
 */
Dsq.Validators = new function() {
	this.VALID_EMAIL_RE = /^[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*\@(([a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*)+\.[a-z]{2,}|([0-9]+\.){3}[0-9]+)$/i;
	this.name = function(name) {
		var error = false;

		if(typeof Dsq.Templates.placeholder !== 'undefined' &&
		   name == Dsq.Templates.placeholder.name) {
			error = true;
		}
		if(name.length <= 1) {
			error = true;
		}

		if(error) {
			return "Please enter a name to comment.";
		} else {
			return true;
		}
	};
	this.email = function(addr) {
		if(Dsq.Validators.VALID_EMAIL_RE.test(addr)) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please enter a valid email to comment.";
		}
	};
	this.url = function(addr) {
		if(!addr || addr.indexOf('.') != -1) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please check your website URL (this field is optional).";
		}
	};

	this.validate = function(bulk_validation, failure_callback) {
		failure_callback = failure_callback || function(e){ alert(e); };

		for(var i = 0; i < bulk_validation.length; i++) {
			v = bulk_validation[i];
			ret = v.validator(v.value);
			if(ret !== true) {
				failure_callback(ret);
				return false;
			}
		}
		return true;
	};
};

/**
 * Dsq.Utils: Generic utility functions.
 */
Dsq.Utils = new function() {
	this.ie = /msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent);
	this.ie7 = (document.all && !window.opera && window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true : false;
	this.ie6 = (!window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true: false;
	this.webkit = navigator.userAgent.indexOf('AppleWebKit/') >= 0;
	this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache = {};
	this._styleSheet = null;

	this.gebiFromElement = function(el, id, tag) {
		// This only method only helps IE.
		if(!this.ie) {
			return Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var cacheKey = el.id + '-' + tag;
			tag = tag || 'div';
			if(typeof this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] != 'undefined') {
				collection = this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey];
			} else {
				collection = el.getElementsByTagName(tag);
				this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] = collection;
			}

			for(var i = 0; i < collection.length; i++) {
				if(collection[i].id == id) {
					return collection[i];
				}
			}
			return null;
		}
	};

	this.execOnReady = function(func) {
		var node = document.createElement('document:ready');
		try {
			node.doScroll('left');
			func();
			node = null;
		} catch(err) {
			setTimeout(function() { Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(func); }, 10);
		}
	};


	// Courtesy of http://www.quirksmode.org/js/cookies.html
	this.createCookie = function(name,value,days) {
		if (days) {
			var date = new Date();
			date.setTime(date.getTime()+(days*24*60*60*1000));
			var expires = "; expires="+date.toGMTString();
		}
		else var expires = "";
		document.cookie = name+"="+value+expires+"; path=/";
	};

	this.readCookie = function(name) {
		var nameEQ = name + "=";
		var ca = document.cookie.split(';');
		for(var i=0;i < ca.length;i++) {
			var c = ca[i];
			while (c.charAt(0)==' ') c = c.substring(1,c.length);
			if (c.indexOf(nameEQ) == 0) return c.substring(nameEQ.length,c.length);
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.eraseCookie = function(name) {
		Dsq.Utils.createCookie(name,"",-1);
	};

	this.deleteNode = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			this.deleteChildren(node);
			if(typeof node.outerHTML != 'undefined') { node.outerHTML = ''; }
			else if(node.parentNode) { node.parentNode.removeChild(node); }
			delete node;
		}
	};

	this.deleteChildren = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			for(var x = node.childNodes.length-1; x >= 0; x--) {
				var childNode = node.childNodes[x];
				if(childNode.hasChildNodes()) { this.deleteChildren(childNode); }
				if(typeof childNode.outerHTML != 'undefined') { childNode.outerHTML = ''; }
				else node.removeChild(childNode);
				delete childNode;
			}
		}
	};

	this.findPos = function(obj) {
		var curleft = 0;
		var curtop = 0;
		if (obj.offsetParent) {
			do {
				curleft += obj.offsetLeft;
				curtop += obj.offsetTop;
			} while (obj = obj.offsetParent);
		}
		return [curleft,curtop];
	};

	this.getWindowSize = function() {
		var windowWidth = -1;
		var windowHeight = -1;

		if(typeof(window.innerWidth) == 'number') { //Non-IE
			windowWidth = window.innerWidth;
			windowHeight = window.innerHeight;
		} else if(document.documentElement) { // IE 6+ in 'standards compliant mode'
			windowWidth = document.documentElement.clientWidth || document.body.clientWidth;
			windowHeight = document.documentElement.clientHeight || document.body.clientHeight;
		}

		return [windowWidth, windowHeight];
	}

	this.getScrollPos = function() {
		var scrollWidth, scrollTop;

		if(document.documentElement && (document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.documentElement.scrollWidth)) {
			scrollWidth = document.documentElement.scrollWidth;
			// IE is weird here.  If no doctype is provided, document.body.scrollTop is 0,
			// otherwise document.documentElement.scrollTop is 0.
			scrollTop = document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.body.scrollTop;
		} else if(document.body.scrollTop && document.body.scrollWidth) {
			scrollWidth = document.body.scrollWidth;
			scrollTop = document.body.scrollTop;
		}

		return [scrollWidth, scrollTop];
	}

	this.addEventListener = function(instance, eventName, listener) {
		var listenerFn = listener;
		if (instance.addEventListener) {
			instance.addEventListener(eventName, listenerFn, false);
		} else if (instance.attachEvent) {
			listenerFn = function() {
				listener(window.event);
			};
			instance.attachEvent("on" + eventName, listenerFn);
		} else {
			throw new Error("Event registration not supported");
		}
		return {
			instance: instance,
			name: eventName,
			listener: listenerFn
		};
	};

	this.removeEventListener = function(event) {
		var instance = event.instance;
		if (instance.removeEventListener) {
			instance.removeEventListener(event.name, event.listener, false);
		} else if (instance.detachEvent) {
			instance.detachEvent("on" + event.name, event.listener);
		}
	};

	this.fixIframesIE = function(id) {
		var disqusThread = Dsq.$(disqus_container_id);
		var iframes = disqusThread.getElementsByTagName('iframe');

		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-content');
		}

		for(i = 0; i < iframes.length; i++) {
			if (container) {
				iframes[i].style.width = container.offsetWidth;
			}
		}
	};

	this.getElementsByClassName = function(oElm, strTagName, strClassName) {
	/* Credit: Jonathan Snook [http://www.snook.ca/jonathan], Robert Nyman [http://www.robertnyman.com] */
		var arrElements = (strTagName == "*" && oElm.all)? oElm.all : oElm.getElementsByTagName(strTagName);
		var arrReturnElements = new Array();
		strClassName = strClassName.replace(/\-/g, "\\-");
		var oRegExp = new RegExp("(^|\\s)" + strClassName + "(\\s|$)");
		var oElement;
		for(var i = 0; i < arrElements.length; i++) {
			oElement = arrElements[i];
			if(oRegExp.test(oElement.className)) {
				arrReturnElements.push(oElement);
			}
		}
		return (arrReturnElements);
	};

	this.postToUrl = function(url, post_data, opt_redirect) {
		var form = document.createElement('form');
		var iframe_container = document.createElement('div');
		var id = 'dsq-temp-iframe-' + (new Date()).getTime();

		form.method = 'POST';
		form.action = url;
		if (!opt_redirect) {
			form.target = id;
		}
		iframe_container.innerHTML = '<iframe style="display:none" name="' + id + '" id="' + id + '"></iframe>';

		for(var key in post_data) {
			if(post_data.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var input = document.createElement('input');
				input.name = key;
				input.type = 'hidden';
				input.value = post_data[key];

				form.appendChild(input);
			}
		}

		Dsq.$b.appendChild(iframe_container);
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(form);
		form.submit();
	};

	// Strips integer id from id of element in the form ('some-id-###')
	this.extractId = function(e) {
		var chunks = e.id.split('-');
		if(chunks.length <= 1) {
			return 0;
		} else {
			var retval = parseInt(chunks[chunks.length-1]);
			return !isNaN(retval) ? retval : null;
		}
	};

	this.getStyle = function(el, styleProp) {
		if(el.currentStyle) {
			var y = el.currentStyle[styleProp];
		} else if(window.getComputedStyle) {
			var y = document.defaultView.getComputedStyle(el, null).getPropertyValue(styleProp);
		}

		if(y == 'transparent' || y == '') {
			this.getStyle(el.parentNode, styleProp);
		} else {
			return y;
		}
	};

	this.execScript = function(url, append_qs, container) {
		var script = document.createElement('script');
		append_qs = typeof append_qs == 'undefined' ? true : append_qs;
		container = container || Dsq.container;

		if(append_qs) {
			var j = (url.indexOf('?') >= 0) ? '&' : '?';
			url += j + (new Date()).getTime();
		}
		script.type = 'text/javascript';
		script.charset = 'UTF-8';
		script.src = url;
		container.appendChild(script);
		return script;
	};

	this.pluralize = function(num, singular, plural) {
		return (num != 1) ? plural || 's' : singular || '';
	};

	this.getRequestParams = function(queryString /* optional */) {
		var pairs, tuple;
		var params = {};

		queryString = queryString || window.location.search.substring(1);
		pairs = queryString.split('&');

		for (var i = 0, pair; pair = pairs[i]; i++) {
			tuple = pair.split('=');
			params[tuple[0]] = (tuple[1] || true);
		}

		return params;
	};

	this.addCssRule = function(selector, styleText, index) {
		var stylesheet;
		index = index || 0;

		if(!this._styleSheet) {
			var styleEl = document.createElement('style');
			document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(styleEl);
			this._styleSheet = styleEl.sheet;
			if(!this._styleSheet) {
				// IE does not like our newly created stylesheet.
				this._styleSheet = document.styleSheets[document.styleSheets.length-1];
			}
		}
		stylesheet = this._styleSheet;

		if(stylesheet.insertRule) {
			var ruleText = selector + ' { ' + styleText + ' }';
			if(index == -1) {
				index = stylesheet.cssRules.length;
			}
			stylesheet.insertRule(ruleText, index);
		} else if(stylesheet.addRule) {
			stylesheet.addRule(selector, styleText, index);
		}
	};

	this.forEachIn = function(obj, callback) {
		for(var key in obj) {
			if(obj.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				callback(key, obj[key]);
			}
		}
	};

	this._interpolateGlobalContext = {
		// values that get used a lot and are global to the request
		'profile_url': Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE,

		'disqus_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url,
		'media_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url,
		'request_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.username,
		'request_display_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username,
		'forum_name': Dsq.jsonData.forum.name
	};

	this.renderFromContextStack = function(key, contexts) {
		// Returns the first instance of `key` in the array of objects `contexts` or else ''
		for (var i=0; i<contexts.length; i++) {
			if (contexts[i][key] !== undefined) {
				return String(contexts[i][key]);
			}
		}
		throw new Error('key ' + key + ' not found in context');
	};

	var that = this;
	this.interpolate = function(fmt, opt_localContext) {
		// Interpolate `fmt` named-format string with an assumed global context.
		// Based on `interpolate` in django.views.i18n
		var contextStack = [opt_localContext || {}, that._interpolateGlobalContext];
		return fmt.replace(/%\(\w+\)s/g, function(match){
			return that.renderFromContextStack(match.slice(2,-2), contextStack);
		});
	};

	this.stripTags = function(s) {
		// Removes HTML tags from `s`
		return s.replace(/(<([^>]+)>)/g,"");

	};

	this.assert = function(b) {
		if (!b) {
			throw new Error('Assertion error.');
		}
	};

};
// Dsq.Utils

/**
 * Dsq.Popup: Popup helper functions.
 */
Dsq.Popup = new function() {
	this.timeHide = new Array();
	this.timeShow = new Array();
	this.activePopup = {};
	this.profileCache = {};
	this.statusCache = {};

	this.showTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the hide timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeHide[post_id]);

		// start the timer
		if(!Dsq.Popup.profileIsOn && !Dsq.Thread.adminIsOn) {
			this.timeShow[post_id] = setTimeout("Dsq.Popup.popProfile(\"" + post_id + "\")", 400);
		}
	};

	this.hideTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the show timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeShow[post_id]);
	};

	this.updateProfile = function(username) {
		// Callback from /embed/profile.js
		if (this.statusCache[username]) {
			var statusEl = Dsq.$('dsq-profile-status-' + username);
			statusEl.innerHTML = this.statusCache[username];
			statusEl.style.display = 'block';
		}

		if (this.profileCache[username]) {
			var _cache = this.profileCache[username];

			var _genhtml = function(text) { return '<span><big>' + text + '</big></span>'; };
			var _no_comments = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS(_cache.comments_count));
			var _no_likes = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_LIKES(_cache.likes_count));
			var _no_points = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_POINTS(_cache.points));

			var statsEl = Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + username);
			statsEl.innerHTML = '';

			if (Dsq.jsonData.users[username].registered) {
				statsEl.innerHTML = _no_comments + _no_likes;
			}
			statsEl.innerHTML += _no_points;

			var activeSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.active_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.active_sites[i];
				activeSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (activeSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = activeSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = 'This site.';
			}

			var moderatedSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.moderated_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.moderated_sites[i];
				moderatedSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (moderatedSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + username).innerHTML = moderatedSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + username).innerHTML = '';
			}
		}

		// Reposition popup after full HTML is rendered
		if(Dsq.Popup.activePopup && Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el) {
			Dsq.Popup.initPopup(Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.type);
		}

	};

	this.showCookieMsgs = function() {
		var title = '';
		var message = '';
		var numAlerts = 0;

		Dsq.Utils.forEachIn(Dsq.jsonData.cookie_messages, function(k, v) {
			if (!v) return;

			switch(k) {
				// Cookie: Twitter
				case 'post_twitter':
					if (v === 'error') {
						title = 'Twitter Error!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-error">Oops, we couldn\'t tweet this comment. Please check your <a href="http://disqus.com/account/services">account settings</a>.</li>';
					} else {
						var _msg = v.split(':');
						title = 'Tweeted!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-success">Your comment was successfully tweeted. <a href="http://twitter.com/' + _msg[0] + '/status/' + _msg[1] + '">Click here to view the tweet</a>.</li>';
					}
					break;
				// Cookie: Unapproved Post
				case 'post_not_approved':
					title = 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-not-approved">Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.</li>';
					break;
				// Cookie: Profile Found
				case 'post_has_profile':
					title = 'Use your existing commenter profile';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-has-profile">You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a></li>';
					break;
				case 'user_created':
					var _data = v.split(':');
					title = 'Profile created!';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-user-created">You have just created a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, the best way to claim, manage, and track your comments all over the web. \
					<br /><br />A confirmation is being sent to <strong>' + _data[1] + '</strong>. Please check for this email in order to verify your profile. \
					<ul class="dsq-list-tick"> \
						<li>Your username is <strong>' + _data[0] +'</strong>. <a href="http://disqus.com/people/' + _data[0] + '/" target="_blank">Click here to view your public profile</a>.</li> \
						<li>Be sure to set your profile picture, as well as connect your <span class="dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> and <span class="dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> accounts. <a href="http://disqus.com/account/" target="_blank">Click here for account settings</a>.</li> \
					</ul> \
					</li>'
					break;
				default:
					break;
			}
			numAlerts++;
		});

		if(numAlerts > 1) {
			message = '<ul class="dsq-list-bluebullet">' + message;
			message += '</ul>';
			title = 'Thanks for posting!';
		}
		if(numAlerts > 0) {
			if(typeof(disqus_cookie_msgs) == 'function') {
				disqus_cookie_msgs(message, title);
			} else {
				Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
			}
		}
	};

	this.helpBadges = function(post_id) {
		var html = ' \
			<ul class="dsq-popup-help"> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile with a confirmed email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, but has not yet confirmed his or her email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span> is not logged in with any account and has not claimed his or her comments.</li> \
				<li class="dsq-help-otheraccts">Other accounts</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> is using his or her Facebook profile via Facebook Connect.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> is using his or her Twitter profile via Twitter Sign-in.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-openid">OpenID</span> is using his or her OpenID.</li> \
			</ul> \
		';

		this.popModal(html, 'Help: Types of Commenters', post_id);
		return;
	};

	this.permalink = function(post_id) {
		var header = 'Link to this comment';
		var body = '<strong>You are anchored to</strong>:<br />' + document.location.protocol + '//' + document.location.host + document.location.pathname + document.location.search + '#comment-' + post_id;

		this.popModal(body, header, post_id);
	};

	this.login = function(header, body) {
		var h = header || 'Login or Register';
		var b = body || '';
		b += Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: 'dsq-popup-login'});
		b += '</iframe>'; // HACK: Sometimes there is something funky with the IFRAME SRC that causes no end tag
		this.popModal(b, h, null, true, 'dsq-popup-login');
	};

	this.blacklist = function(id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		var title = 'Add to Blacklist';
		var message = ' \
		Adding this person to the blacklist will block him or her from commenting on this site. Check the following types that you would like to add to the blacklist:'
		+ (userData['registered'] ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-username" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-username"><strong>Username</strong>: ' + userData['username'] + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ (_meta.email ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-email" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-email"><strong>Email address</strong>: ' + _meta.email + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ '<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
			<input id="dsq-blacklist-ip" type="checkbox" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-blacklist-ip-warning\').style.display=\'block\'"> \
			<label for="dsq-blacklist-ip"><strong>IP address</strong>: ' + _meta.ip + '</label> \
		</div> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p id="dsq-blacklist-ip-warning" style="display:none">	\
				Note: Blocking this person\'s IP address may also unintentionally prevent others, who share his/her IP address, from commenting on this site. \
				This may include people who are sharing the same computer, living in the same house, or using the same Internet provider. Only block an IP address as a last resort. \
			</p> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p style="text-align:center"><button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Post.blockUser(' + id + '); this.disabled=true; this.innerHTML=\'Just one moment...\'">Add to Blacklist</button></p> \
		';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
	};

	this.remoteAccountSettings = function() {
		var body = '';
		// Set up IFrame.
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/_auth/embed/remote_settings/';
		var attributes = {id: 'dsq-popup-account-settings'};
		if (typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}

		body = Dsq.Templates._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
		this.popModal(body, 'Account Settings', null, true, 'dsq-popup-account-settings');
	};

	this.popModal = function(message, title, post_id, use_listener, extra_classes) {
		var container = document.createElement('div');
		var header, body;

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);

		if(typeof(title) == 'undefined') { title = ''; }
		if(typeof(use_listener) == 'undefined') { use_listener = true; }

		if(post_id) {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message-' + post_id;
		} else {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message';
		}

		header = title;
		body = message;

		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupModal(header, body);
		Dsq.Popup.initPopup(container, post_id, 'message', extra_classes);
		if(use_listener) {
			Dsq.Popup.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', Dsq.Popup._closePopup);
		}
	};

	this.popAlert = this.popModal;

	this.loading = function(post_id) {
		var title = Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
		var body = '<div style="text-align:center; padding: 5px 0 10px 0"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif" alt="" /></div>'
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
	};

	this.lightbox = function(message, title, post_id) {
		// Wraps Dsq.Popup.popModal

		var overlay = document.createElement('div');
		overlay.id = 'dsq-overlay';
		overlay.className = 'dsq-overlay';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(overlay);
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, post_id, false, 'dsq-lightbox');
	};

	this.popProfile = function(post_id, userKey) {
		var post = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id];
		if (post && post.has_been_anonymized) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('This message was anonymized by its previous owner.', 'Anonymized', post_id);
			return;
		}

		if(post_id) {
			userKey = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id].user_key;	
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][userKey];
		var elId = 'dsq-popup-profile-' + userKey;
		var container = document.createElement('div');

		if(this.activePopup.el) {
			this._closePopup(null, true);
			if(this.activePopup.linkClicked) {
				this.activePopup.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		container.id = elId;
		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupProfile(userKey);

		this.initPopup(container, post_id, 'profile');
		this.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._closePopup);

		if(!this.profileCache[userKey]) {
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/embed/profile.js'
				+ '?username=' + userKey
				+ '&anon=' + (userData['registered'] ? 0 : 1)
				+ '&f=' + Dsq.jsonData['request'].forum);
		} else {
			this.updateProfile(userKey);
		}
	};

	this._closePopup = function(e, force) {
		var activePopup = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el;
		var id = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id;
		var link = 'dsq-avatar-' + id; // HACK: Specific to profile toggle target

		// HACK: This event should be gone if there is no active popup.
		if(!activePopup) {
			return;
		}
		if(force || !Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, activePopup.id)) {
			// TODO: This is breaking iE?
			if(Dsq.Popup.popupListener) {
				Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Popup.popupListener);
			}
			
			// Kill overlay
			var overlay = Dsq.$('dsq-overlay');
			if(overlay) { Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(overlay); }
			
			try {
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(activePopup);
			} catch(e) {
				// HACK: IE6 throws an error when using deleteNode() with a node containing a <table> in the html.
				activePopup.parentNode.removeChild(activePopup);
			}
			Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {};
		}

		if(!force && Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Popup.activePopup.linkClicked = true;
		}

	};

	this.initPopup = function(popup, post_id, type, extra_classes) {
		popup.className = 'dsq-popup dsq-popup-' + type + ' ' + (extra_classes ? extra_classes : '');
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6 || Dsq.Utils.ie7) {
			// HACK: We can't modify the body before it's ready, so we need
			//       to use an IE-safe "DOMReady" workaround before loading
			//       our popup.
			Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(function() {Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup); });
		} else {
			Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup);
		}

		popup.style.display = 'block';

		var xPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[0] - popup.offsetWidth) / 2;
		var yPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[1] - popup.offsetHeight) / 2;

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
			yPos += Dsq.Utils.getScrollPos()[1];
		}

		popup.style.left = xPos + 'px';
		popup.style.top = yPos + 'px';

		Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {
			'el' : popup,
			'id' : post_id,
			'type': type,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};
	};

	this.isClicked = function(e, id) {
		var t = e.target || e.srcElement;
		while(t && t.parentNode) {
			if(t.id == id) {
				return true;
			}

			t = t.parentNode;
		}
		return false;
	};
};
// Dsq.Popup

/**
 * Dsq.Templates
 */
Dsq.Templates = new function() {
	/*
	 * Counter keeping track of the number of posts iterated over.
	 */
	this.postLoopCounter = 0;
	this.filters = {};
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-post-add';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-post-add';

	this.registerTemplate = function(name, func) {
		this['$$_' + name] = func;

		if(typeof DsqLocal.Filters != 'undefined'
		&& typeof DsqLocal.Filters[name] == 'function') {
			// Push filters to this.filters to unify code.
			this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
			this.filters[name].push(DsqLocal.Filters[name]);
		}

		this[name] = function() {
			var ret;

			if(typeof DsqLocal.Templates != 'undefined'
			&& typeof DsqLocal.Templates[name] == 'function') {
				ret = DsqLocal.Templates[name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(ret === undefined) {
				ret = this['$$_' + name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(this.filters[name]) {
				var args = [ret];

				args.push.apply(args, arguments);
				for(var i = 0; i < this.filters[name].length; i++) {
					ret = this.filters[name][i].apply(this, args);
				}
			}

			return ret;
		};
	};

	this.registerFilter = function(name, func) {
		this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
		this.filters[name].push(func);
	};

	/**
	 * Dsq.Templates.Filters
	 */
	this.Filters = new function() {
		this.commentContainer = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var classes = [];
			if(Dsq.jsonData.request.page > 1) {
				classes.push('dsq-append');
			}

			//
			// Extra classes used for custom themes
			//

			if(_meta.depth) {
				classes.push('dsq-comment-child', 'dsq-depth-' + _meta.depth, 'dsq-parent-is-' + _meta.parent_post_id);
			}


			//

			if(_meta.author_is_creator) {
				// TODO: We need to deprecate the "special" class since it is not properly prefixed.
				classes.push('special', 'dsq-special');
			}
			if(_meta.author_is_moderator) {
				classes.push('dsq-moderator');
			}
			classes.push(['dsq-odd', 'dsq-even'][Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter % 2]);

			s = s.substring(0, s.lastIndexOf('>'));
			return s + ' class="dsq-comment ' + classes.join(' ') + '" style="margin-left:' + _meta.depth*30 + 'px">';
		};

		this.commentContent = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			if (_meta.killed) {
				return '<em>Comment removed.</em>';
			} else if (!_meta.approved) {
				return '<em>This comment was flagged for review.</em>';
			}

			s = s.replace(Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE, Dsq.MediaPostHandler);
			return s;
		};
	};

	//
	// Thread
	//
	// TODO: These need to be stripped of all Django template tags.

	this.authPost = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			return '';
		}
		var result = [];
		result = result.concat([
				'<div id="dsq-auth"',
						Dsq.jsonData.integration.reply_position ? 'class="dsq-auth-bottom"' : '',
						'>',
					'<div class="dsq-by">',
						'<a href="http://disqus.com" target="_blank">',
							(Dsq.jsonData.integration.disqus_logo ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/by-disqus.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">') :
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/dsq-button-120x19.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">')
							),
						'</a>',
					'</div>',
					'<div class="dsq-auth-header">',
						'<h3 id="dsq-add-new-comment" class="dsq-h3-addcomment">',
								Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT,
						'</h3>',
						'<div id="dsq-login">',
						(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
								? '<p class="dsq-login-message" id="dsq-login-message">You are commenting as a <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. You may select one to log into:</p>'
								: '')
		]);
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			result = result.concat([
							Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
								'<a id="dsq-login-toggle" href="%(disqus_url)s%(login_url)s?next=article:%(thread_id)s" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsq-profile-btn.png" title="%(log_into)s" alt="%(log_into)s"/></a>',
								{login_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGIN, thread_id: Dsq.jsonData.thread.id, log_into: Dsq.Strings.LOG_INTO_DISQUS}
								),
							'&nbsp; ',
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ?
								'<div id="dsq-fbc-login" onlogin="DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin()" size="medium" background="light" length="short" style="display:inline; margin-right:7px"></div>' :
								''
							),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-twitter-login" class="dsq-twitter-login" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect();" style="display:inline; cursor: pointer"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/twitter-signin-short.png" style="margin-right:7px" /></div>', {}) : ''),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-openid-login" class="dsq-openid-login" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL();" style="display:inline; cursor:pointer;"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/openid-login-button.png"/></div>', {}
								) : '')
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
						'</div>', // dsq-login
					'</div>', // dsq-auth-header
					'<div id="dsq-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated" ',
						Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated ? 'style="display:block"' : '',
						'>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-pic">',
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">' +
																			'<img class="dsq-post-avatar" src="%(avatar_url)s" alt="" /></a>',
																			{avatar_url: Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR,
																			url: (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
																					 ? Dsq.jsonData.request.url
																					 : Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE) }),
						'</div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>', {url:Dsq.jsonData.request.url})
										  )
										: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(profile_url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>')
											)
									),
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">',
									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsqicon12.png" alt="%(logged_in_as)s"/>&nbsp',
											{logged_in_as: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username)})
										: ''),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="%(logout_from_disqus)s">',
											{logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN, logout_from_disqus: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('DISQUS')})
										: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'twitter')
												? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using Twitter (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
												 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
												: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'openid')
													 ? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using OpenID (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
													 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
													 : ''
													)
											)
									),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote ? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('<span class="logo-disqus">DISQUS</span>') : ''),
									'</a>',
								'</li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
		]);
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect) {
			result = result.concat([
					'<div id="dsq-fbc-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated">',
						'<div id="dsq-fbc-profilepic" class="dsq-authenticated-pic" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.ProfilePic" size="square" facebook-logo="true"></div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									'Logged in as <span id="dsq-fbc-name" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.Name" linked="true" useyou="false"></span>',
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">using Facebook Connect <a href="#" onclick="javascript:DisqusFbcParentController.logout();return false;">(Logout)</a></li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
				'</div>', // dsq-auth
				'<div id="dsq-toolbar-items">',
				'</div>'
		]);
		result = result.concat([
					//
					//
					//
				((!Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) ?
					// Needs to be translated:
					('<p id="dsq-no-anon-msg">Required: Please log into <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> ' +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? 'or connect with Facebook ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? 'or sign in with Twitter ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? 'or sign in using OpenID ' : '') +
					Dsq.Utils.interpolate('to comment on <strong>%(forum_name)s</strong>.</p>')) :
					''
				),
				'<div id="dsq-post-add"></div>',
				'<div style="margin:10px 0">',
				((Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media) ?
						'<a href="#" id="dsq-media-link" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, false, \'media\'); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.USE_MEDIA + ' <small>&#9660;</small></a>' :
						''),
				'</div>'
		]);
		return result.join('');
	};


	this.header = function() {

		var html = '\<h3 id="dsq-comments-count" class="dsq-h3-commentcount">\
	 <span id="dsq-num-posts">76</span> Comments\
	 &nbsp;\
	 <span class="dsq-item-feed">\
	 <a href="http://scobleizer.disqus.com/microsoft_postpones_pdc/latest.rss"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png"></a>\
	 </span>\
	 </h3>\
	 <div id="dsq-options" style="margin:15px 0">\
	 <span class="dsq-item-sort">\
	 Sort by\
	 <select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);">\
	 <option value="hot" selected="selected">Popular now</option>\
	 <option value="best" >Best Rating</option>\
	 <option value="newest" >Newest first</option>\
	 <option value="oldest" >Oldest first</option>\
	 </select>\
	 &nbsp;\
	 </span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-cp"><a href="http://scobleizer.disqus.com/microsoft_postpones_pdc/">Community Page</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-subscribe">\
	 <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle">\
	 <span id="dsq-subscribe">\
	 <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a>\
	 </span>\
	 </span>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-alerts">\
	 <p>Comments for this page are closed.</p>\
	 </div>\
		';

		

		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) { 
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-alert-message dsq-upgrade-message"> \
				<strong>Disqus upgrade available.</strong> Hi ' + Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username + ', this message is being displayed to you because you are a moderator of this site. <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-upgrade-message\').style.display=\'block\';this.style.display=\'none\';return false">Click here for details.</a> \
				<div style="display:none; margin-top:10px;" id="dsq-upgrade-message"> \
					A new theme is available with added features. <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/settings/' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url + '/?p=customize">To change your theme, click here</a> and choose the theme Narcissus. \
					If you do not upgrade, you are missing out on features such as: real-time commenting, new sign-in integrations, and an upgrade interface. \
					<strong>This message will automatically go away in one week.</strong> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			' + html; 
		}
		return html;
	};

	this.footer = function() {
		var html = Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.authPost();
		

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		

		return html;
	};

	this.pagination = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) { Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = ''; }
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.thread.paginate) { return ''; }

		//
		// TODO: num_paginator still uses the template tag for pagination, 
		// 		while append_paginator does it all in JavaScript.
		//		This should all be in JavaScript.
		//

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages > 1 && Dsq.jsonData.request.page < Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages) {
			html = ' \<a class="dsq-paginate-append-text" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this); return false">Show more comments...</a>\
	 <button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-paginate-append-button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this);">Load more comments</button>\
			';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = html;
			return '';
		} else {
			return '<div id="dsq-pagination" class="dsq-pagination">' + html + '</div>';
		}
	};

	this.trackbacks = function() {
		var html = '';

		if(typeof DsqLocal != 'undefined' && DsqLocal.trackback_url && DsqLocal.trackbacks) {
			var trackbacks = DsqLocal.trackbacks;
			var trackback_url = DsqLocal.trackback_url;
		} else {
			var trackbacks = [
			
			
			];
			var trackback_url = 'http://scobleizer.disqus.com/microsoft_postpones_pdc/trackback/';
		}

		html += '<div class="dsq-item-trackback">Trackback URL&nbsp;&nbsp;<input class="dsq-trackback-url" onclick="this.select()" readonly="true" value="' + trackback_url + '"></div>';

		if(trackbacks.length) {
			html += '<ul id="dsq-references">'
			for(var i = 0; i < trackbacks.length; i++) {
				var trackback = trackbacks[i];
				html += '<li><cite><a href="' + trackback.author_url + '" rel="nofollow">' + trackback.author_name + '</a></cite> \
						<p class="dsq-meta">' + trackback.date + '</p> \
						<p class="dsq-content">' + trackback.excerpt + '</p></li>';
			}
			html += '</ul>';
			html = '<h3 class="dsq-h3-trackbacks">Trackbacks</h3>' + html;
		}

		return html;
	}

	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		/* Reaction HTML begins */
		var item = '<li class="dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-header-avatar">';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'">';
		} else {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="#" onclick="return false;">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {
			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar32.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png"/>'
			+ '</a></div>'
			+ '<cite><span>' + reaction.author_name + '</span></cite>'
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"><a class="dsq-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</a></span>'
			+ '</div><div class="dsq-reaction-body">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-footer">From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
			+ 'via <a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? 'BackType' : 'UberVU') + '</a>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator ? '&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;<a class="dsq-hide-reaction" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + '); return false;">Hide</a>' : '') + '</div></div>';

		if(reaction.retweets) {
			var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
			if (num_retweets > 0) {
				item += '<div class="dsq-reaction-retweets">';
				if (num_retweets == 1) {
					item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
				} else {
					item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');

					item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
					var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 15) ? 15 : num_retweets;
					item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);

					if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
						item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
							+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
					}
				}
				item += '</div>';
			}
		}

		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this.missingPermissions = function() {
		return '	<p>Comments for this page are closed.</p>\n';
	};

	//
	// Post
	//

	this.prependPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="comment-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-comment-reply-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-header-avatar" id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
				<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
				? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '</a>'
			+ '</div> \
		';
	};

	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];

		return ''
			+ (_meta.author_is_moderator
				? '<img class="dsq-mod-star" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/bullet-star.png" title="Moderator" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"> \
				<a id="dsq-time-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-time" href="#comment-' + post_id + '" title="Permalink">' + _meta.date + '</a> \
			</span>';
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		return '';
	}

	this.postBody = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Deprecate flagging conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		return ''
			+ (_meta.edited
				? '<p class="dsq-editedtxt">(Edited by a moderator)</p>'
				: '')
			;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Use media should be conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed) { return ''; }

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
				<div id="dsq-points-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-likedtxt">'
				+ (_meta.points
					? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.'
					: '')
				+ '</div>'
				+ '<ul class="dsq-comment-options dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.votable
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first dsq-rate" id="dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id + '">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Like</a>'
						: 'You liked this.') + '</li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-report' + (!_meta.votable ? ' dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '"><a href="#" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">Report</a></li> \
				</ul> \
				<ul class="dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first"><a href="#" id="dsq-reply-link-' + post_id +'" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(this, ' + post_id +'); return false;">Reply</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<li id="dsq-edit-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-edit-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="' + (!_meta.can_reply ? 'dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-more-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-more-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'more\'); return false">More <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media
					? '<li id="dsq-media-el-' + post_id +'" style="display:none"><a id="dsq-media-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'media\'); return false">Use Media <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '</ul>'
				+ '<div id="dsq-reply-bar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar" style="display:none"> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-items-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-items"> \
						</div> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-auth-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-auth"> \
							 \
								 \
								 	<a href="#" class="dsq-help dsq-reply-req-opt" title="You are commenting as a Guest. You may choose to log into an existing DISQUS Profile, your Facebook, Twitter or OpenID account to comment on Scobleizer" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Optional:</a> \
								 \
								<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/dsq-favicon-16x16.png" alt="" /> \
								<a id="dsq-reply-login-' + post_id + '" href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:18361354" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">Login</a> \
								 \
									&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img class="fb_login_image" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/images/fbconnect/login-buttons/connect_light_small_short.gif" alt="Facebook Connect"/> \
									<a href="#" onclick="FB.Connect.requireSession(DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin); return false;">Connect</a> \
								 \
								&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/twitter-signin-icon.png" alt="" /> \
									<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false">Sign-in</a> \
								 \
								 \
							 \
						</div> \
					</div> \
					<div id="dsq-reply-' + post_id + '"></div> \
			</div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Iframes
	//

	this._makeAttributes = function(attributes) {
		// Makes a tag attributes string out of an object.
		// Caller is responsible for making sure nothing needs to be escaped.
		var result = [];
		for (key in attributes) {
			result.push(' ' + key + '="' + attributes[key] + '"');
		}
		result = result.join('');
		return result;
	};

	this._frameGeneric = function(base_url, params, attributes) {
		if(typeof(disqus_callback_params) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_callback_params = '';
		}

		var default_params = {
			// TODO: These should be moved to Dsq.jsonData.
			'f'				: 'scobleizer',
			't'				: 'microsoft_postpones_pdc',
			// Do we need encodeURIComponent here?
			'ifrs'			: encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css),
			'to_redirect'	: encodeURIComponent(window.location),
			'cbp'			: disqus_callback_params,
			'ff'			: Dsq.Thread.ff,
			'fc'			: Dsq.Thread.fc,
			'ac'			: Dsq.Thread.ac,
			'default_text'	: disqus_default_text
		};

		base_url += '?' + (new Date()).getTime();
		// Add params to default_params.
		if(params) {
			for(var key in params) {
				if(params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					default_params[key] = encodeURIComponent(params[key]);
				}
			}
		}
		// Build querystring.
		for(var key in default_params) {
			if(default_params[key] && default_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				base_url += '&' + key + '=' + default_params[key];
			}
		}

		return [
			'<iframe marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" hspace="0" vspace="0" frameborder="0"',
			(' allowtransparency="true" src="' + base_url + '"'),
			this._makeAttributes(attributes),
			'</iframe>'].join('');
	};

	this.frameLogin = function(opt_attributes) {
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/login.html';
		var attributes = opt_attributes || {};
		attributes['class'] = 'dsq-post-login';

		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameReply = function(post_id, extra_params, attributes) {
		// Returns the HTML for a reply iframe. Called by Dsq.Iframes.setReplyIframeToContainer
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY;
		var params = {
			'def_email'		: disqus_def_email,
			'def_name'		: disqus_def_name
		};
		if(extra_params) {
			for(var key in extra_params) {
				if(extra_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					params[key] = extra_params[key];
				}
			}
		}
		if(_meta) {
			params['parent_post'] = post_id;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			params['per_page'] = disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			attributes['class'] += '-authenticated';
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameEdit = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/edit.html';
		var params = {
			'p' : post_id
		};
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, {'class': 'dsq-post-edit', 'name': 'dsq-edit_' + post_id + '-frame'});
	};

	//
	// Menus
	//

	this.menuMore = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: "Remove post" button should hide menu.
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')">Link</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Profile</a></li>'
	+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
		? '	<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>' + (_meta.email ? '<li class="dsq-admin-email">' + _meta.email + '</li>' : '')
		+ '	<li class="dsq-admin-ip">' + _meta.ip + '</li> \
			<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>'
		+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
			? ' <li class="dsq-admin-edit"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
			: '')
		+ ' <li class="dsq-remove"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Remove Comment</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-report-spam"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-block-user"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li>'
		: '');
	};

	this.menuMedia = function(post_id) {
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(this, ' + post_id + ', \'seesmic\'); return false;">Record video</a></li> \
		';
	};

	this.dropProfile = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};


		var menu = '<li class="dsq-drop-showlnk"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Expand &#8663;</a></li>';
		var pointsMessage = '';
		if (userData['registered']) {
			pointsMessage = 'with ' + userData['points'] + ' points (more points are better).';
		}

		if (userData['is_remote']) {
			var domain = userData['remote_domain_name'];
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' is a ' + domain + ' user ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
			menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-' + domain.toLowerCase() + '">' + domain + '</span></li>';
		} else if (userData['registered']) {
			if (userData['verified']) {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a verified commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span></li>';
			} else {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a registered, but unverified, commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span></li>';
			}
		} else {
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has not claimed this commenter profile." onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()"><span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span></li>';
		}

		menu += _includeServices();
		return menu;
	};

	//
	// Popups
	//

	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-top"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-body" class="clearfix"> \
				<div class="dsq-popup-body-padding"> \
					<div class="dsq-popup-header"> \
						<a class="dsq-close-link" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/modal-close.png" alt="" /></a>'
						+ content['header']
					+ '</div>'
					+ content['body']
					+ '<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
				</div> <!-- padding --> \
			</div> <!-- body --> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-bottom"></div> \
		</div> \
		';
	};

	this.popupProfile = function(user_key) {
		var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(user_key, null);
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var html = '';
			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == 0
					? '<h4>Connections</h4><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li> \
					<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" title="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" /> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>'
				+ (i+1 == userServices.length ? '</ul>' : '');
			}
			return html;
		};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<table> \
				<tr> \
					<td> \
						<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><img class="dsq-popup-profile-avatar" src="' + userData['avatar'] + '" alt="" /></a> \
					</td> \
					<td> \
						<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user"> \
							<h3>' + userData['display_name'] + '</h3> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats" id="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + user_key + '">Loading...</div> \
						</div> \
					</td> \
				</tr> \
			</table> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-state"> \
				This is a&nbsp;<span class="'
					+ (userData['registered']
						? (userData['verified']
							? ' dsq-badge-verified'
							: (userData['is_remote']
								? ' dsq-badge-' + userData['remote_domain_name'].toLowerCase()
								: ' dsq-badge-registered')
							)
							: ' dsq-badge-guest') + '">'
			+ (userData['registered']
				? (userData['verified']
					? 'Verified'
					: (userData['is_remote']
						 ? userData['remote_domain_name']
						 : 'Registered')
					)
				: 'Guest')
			+ '</span>&nbsp;commenter profile.'
			+ '&nbsp;<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><strong>View more comments </strong></a>'
			+ (!userData['points']
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice">If this is you, <a href="http://disqus.com/profile" target="_blank">claim it now</a> to manage your comments.</p>'
				: '')
			+ ((userData['registered'] && !userData['verified'] && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username == userData['username'])) && !userData['is_remote'])
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice"><strong>Alert</strong>: You have not verified this account. <a href="http://disqus.com/verify">Verify it now.</a></p>'
				: '')
			+ '</div> \
			<div id="dsq-profile-status-' + user_key + '" class="dsq-popup-profile-status" style="display:none"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-snapshot"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td> \
							<div id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Most active sites</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
						<td>'
							+ _includeServices()
							+ '<div id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Moderator of</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupReblog = function() {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<cite><span>Reblog this comment</span></cite> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div id="dsq-reblog-form" class="dsq-reblog-form"> \
			</div> \
		';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupModal = function(title, message) {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<h3>' + title + '</h3> \
		';

		bodyHtml = message;

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.alertContent = function(name, post_id) {
		var alert = {
			'post_not_approved': {
				'title': 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator',
				'message': 'Thanks for posting. Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.'
			},
			'post_has_profile': {
				'title': 'Use your existing commenter profile',
				'message': 'You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> commenter profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a>'
			}
		};
		return alert[name] || false;
	};

	//
	// Actions
	//

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {
		// Update number of points
		Dsq.$('dsq-points-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.';

		// Update link text
		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.';
		}
	};

	this.subscribed = function(status) {
		var title, message;

		if(status) {
			title = 'Subscribed!';
			message = 'You have subscribed to this comment thread. New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox, where you may read and respond by email.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">Unsubscribe</a> \
			';
		} else {
			title = 'Unsubscribed';
			message = 'You have unsubscribed to this comment thread. New comments will no longer be sent to your email inbox.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a> \
			';
		}

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);

	};
	
	this.highlighted = function() {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('This comment has been highlighted.', 'Highlighted comment');
	};

	//
	// Media
	//

	this.mediaSeesmic = function(id, thumb) {
		return ' \
			<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_preview" class="dsq-seesmic-preview"><a href="http://www.seesmic.com/video/' + id + '" target="_blank" class="see_link">&nbsp;</a> \
				<div style="display:block;width:160px; height:120px; border:none; background-image:url(http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/' + thumb + ')"> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_hide" class="seePlayOverlay" style="display:none;"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',false)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/stopOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_show" class="seePlayOverlay"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',true)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/playOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; border:none; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			<div id="' + id + '_content" style="display:block; width:100%; padding-top:5px"></div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Callbacks
	//

	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(parent_post_id) {
		// Increment post count
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');
		
		if (num_posts) { 
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) { 
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
	};
};
// Dsq.Templates


/**
 * Dsq.Post
 */
Dsq.Post = new function() {
	this.openedMenu = {};
	this.menuEventListener = null;
	this.stateReplyToggled = {};
	this.stateEditToggled = {};
	this.stateRecordLink = {};

	/**
	 * Inserts a new post into the document.
	 *
	 * @param after_id {Number}	Insert a post before specified id.  If after_id
	 *							evaluates to false, then post in the front.  If
	 *							after_id is -1, post at the end.
	 */
	this.insert = function(after_id, id, message, author) {
		// Skeleton template from thread_posts.html.
		var skeleton = ' \
			<li id="dsq-comment-%(id)s"> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-header-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-header"> \
					<cite id="dsq-cite-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-cite"> \
						<a id="dsq-author-user-%(id)s" href="%(author_url)s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">%(author_name)s</a> \
					</cite> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-body-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-body"> \
					<div id="dsq-comment-message-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-message">%(message)s</div> \
				</div> \
			</li> \
		';
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var _user_meta = Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key];
		var markup = Dsq.Utils.interpolate(skeleton, {
			id: id,
			message: message,
			author_url: _user_meta.blog,
			author_name: _user_meta.display_name
		});
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		markup = markup.replace(Dsq.COMMENTS_RE, Dsq.CommentsHandler);
		div.innerHTML = markup;

		if (after_id === -1) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').appendChild(div);
		} else if (!after_id) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').insertBefore(div, Dsq.$('dsq-comments').firstChild);
		} else if (Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + after_id)) {
			// Get next node after "after_id", so we can insert before it.
			// If "after_id" is the last comment, the target node is the
			// last node.
			
			// var append_post_id = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(after_id).replace('<div id="','').replace('"></div>', '');
			var append_post_id = 'dsq-append-post-' + after_id;
			var node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			while (node = node.nextSibling) {
				if (!node || node.nodeType == 1) { // 1 == Node.ELEMENT_NODE
					break;
				}
			}
			if (!node) {
				node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			}
			node.parentNode.insertBefore(div, node);
		}
	};

	this.incrementPostCount = function() {
		
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');

		if (num_posts) {
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) {
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
	}
	
	this.outlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className += ' dsq-comment-outline';
		setTimeout("(function () { Dsq.Post.clearOutlineComment(" + post_id + ") })()", 3000);
	};
	
	this.clearOutlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className.replace('dsq-comment-outline', '');
	};

	this.showMenu = function(el, id, name) {
		var anchorPos = Dsq.Utils.findPos(el);
		var menu = document.createElement('ul');

		if(this.openedMenu) {
			if(this.openedMenu.linkClicked) {
				this.openedMenu.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		switch(name) {
			case 'more':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMore(id);
				break;
			case 'media':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMedia(id);
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}

		// Add menu to document body
		menu.id = 'dsq-menu-' + id;
		menu.className = 'dsq-menu';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(menu);

		// Position and show
		anchorPos[1] += 15;
		menu.style.left = anchorPos[0] + 'px';
		menu.style.top = anchorPos[1] + 'px';
		menu.style.display = 'block';

		// Set global reference
		this.openedMenu = {
			'el' : menu,
			'id' : id,
			'name' : name,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};

		// Set listener
		this.menuEventListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._hideMenu);
	};

	this._hideMenu = function(e) {
		var el = e.target || e.srcElement;
		var openedMenu = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el;
		var id = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.id;

		if(!id) {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link';
		} else {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link-' + id;
		}

		if(!openedMenu) {
			return;
		}

		if(!Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, openedMenu.id)) {
			openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Post.menuEventListener);
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(openedMenu);

		} else {
			// Hide the menu if a link was clicked inside the menu.  We can't
			// completely remove the menu until the onclick event on the link
			// fires, but the menuEventListener will prevent multiple menus
			// from polluting the DOM.
			if(el && typeof el.href != 'undefined') {
				openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el = null;
			}
		}

		if(Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Post.openedMenu.linkClicked = true;
		}
	};


	this.getUserServices = function(user_key, id) {
		if(!user_key && id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
			user_key = _meta.user_key;
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var userServices = [];

		// Keep a full list of supported services. This is the order they will display in the drop-profile.
		// Each service must have a corresponding case in _buildServiceUrl()
		var supportedServices = ['blog', 'twitter', 'facebook', 'tumblr'];

		function _buildServiceUrl(serviceName) {
			var data = userData[serviceName];
			var services = {
				blog:		function(d) { return d; },
				twitter:	function(d) { return d; },
				facebook:	function(d) { return d; },
				tumblr:		function(d) { return 'http://' + d + '.tumblr.com'; }
			};
			return services[serviceName](data);
		}

		for(var i = 0; i < supportedServices.length; i++) {
			if(userData[supportedServices[i]]) {
				var serviceUrl = _buildServiceUrl(supportedServices[i]);
				userServices.push({'name' : supportedServices[i], 'url' : serviceUrl});
			}
		}
		return userServices;
	}

	this.dropProfile = function(id) {
		var dp = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-profile-' + id);

		// IE6 needs JS to display/hide. All other browsers use CSS.
		if(dp) {
			if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) dp.style.display = (dp.style.display == 'inline') ? 'none' : 'inline';
			return false;
		} else {
			dp = document.createElement('ul');
		}

		dp.id = 'dsq-drop-profile-' + id;
		dp.className = 'dsq-drop-profile';

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) { dp.style.display = 'inline'; }

		var container = Dsq.$('dsq-header-avatar-' + id);
		dp.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.dropProfile(id);
		container.appendChild(dp);
	};

	this.dropProfileMore = function(el, id) {
		var hiddenItems = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-hidden-' + id);

		hiddenItems.style.display = 'inline';
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
	};

	this._updateReplyLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "reply / cancel" links based on state.
		var displayDict = {};

		if(id) {
			if(this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				el.innerHTML = 'Cancel';
				displayDict['media'] = 'inline';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'none';
			} else {
				el.innerHTML = 'Reply';
				displayDict['media'] = 'none';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'inline';
			}
		}

		for(var key in displayDict) {
			if(displayDict.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var	linkEl = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-el-' + id),
					spacer = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-spacer-' + id);

				if(linkEl) {
					linkEl.style.display = displayDict[key];
					if(spacer) spacer.style.display = displayDict[key];
				}
			}
		}
	};

	this._updateMediaLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "use media / cancel" links based on state.
		var appendId = (id) ? ('-' + id) : '';
		var link = Dsq.$('dsq-media-link' + appendId);

		if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			link.innerHTML = 'Cancel Media';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(link, id); return false; };
		} else {
			link.innerHTML = 'Use Media <small>&#9660;</small>';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.showMenu(link, id, 'media'); return false; };
		}
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(el, id) {
		// Create reply IFrame
		if (window.disqus_use_postmessage) {
			if (!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				// Create IFrame if it doesn't exist.
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-frame-' + id), id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].init();
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].setState(id, _meta.depth);
				}
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
			}
		} else {
			// DEPRECATED
			if(!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				// Reply toolbar
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id), id);
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Iframes.hideAllInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id));
				if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
					// HACK: Cancel media before canceling self.
					this.toggleMediaReply(Dsq.$('dsq-media-link-' + id), id);
				}
			}
		}

		this.stateReplyToggled[id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[id];
		this._updateReplyLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-reply-' + id); }

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[id]
		});
	};

	this.toggleMediaReply = function(el, id, xtype) {
		id = id || 0;
		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(!this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id, {xtype:xtype}, 'dsq-post-video');
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id);
		}
		this.stateRecordLink[id] = !this.stateRecordLink[id];
		this._updateMediaLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};

	this.edit = function(el, id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.frameEdit(id);
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-comment-message-' + id); }
	};

    this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
                Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
            }

            Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/vote.js'
                + '?post_id='    + id
                + '&vote='        + vote);

		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login(Dsq.Strings.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN);
		}
    };

	this.report = function(id, confirmed) {
		if(confirmed) {
			Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/microsoft_postpones_pdc/post_report/', {'post_id': id});
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Thank you. This comment has been flagged for moderator attention.', 'Successfully flagged');
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$('dsq-post-report-' + id));
		} else {
			var title = Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT;
			var message = Dsq.Strings.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR + '? \
			<br /><br /> \
			<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.NO + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.NEVER_MIND + '</button>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + id + ', true);"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.YES + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT + '</button><br /><br />'
			+ Dsq.Strings.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION + '. \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, id);
		}
	};



	this.showAlert = function(id, msg) {
		var msgEl = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id);
		var alert = '<div class="dsq-comment-alert">' + msg + '</div>';

		msgEl.innerHTML = alert + msgEl.innerHTML;
	};

};
// Dsq.Post


/**
 * Dsq.Thread
 */
Dsq.Thread = new function() {
	this.fc = null;
	this.ff = null;
	this.ac = null;

	
	this.adminIsOn = false;

	
	
	

	this.hlComment = null;
	this.hlCommentClass = null;

	this.getNextComment = function(el) {
		var start_id = el.id;
		while(el = el.nextSibling) {
			if(el.id && el.id.indexOf('dsq-comment-') != -1 && el.id != start_id) {
				return el;
			}
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.getActiveCommentId = function() {
		if (document.URL.indexOf('#comment-') >= 0) {
			var anchor = document.URL.slice(document.URL.indexOf('#') + 1);
			return anchor.replace('comment-', '');
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.highlightAnchor = function() {
		var i = this.getActiveCommentId();
		if (i == null) return false;
		var id = 'dsq-comment-' + i;
		var hash = window.location.hash;

		// Toggle the hash incase the comment isn't available when the page loads
		// for WebKit-based browsers.
		if (Dsq.Utils.webkit) {
			window.location.hash = '';
			window.location.hash = hash;
		}

		this.hlComment = Dsq.$(id);
		// Adding this conditional guard pending #289
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlCommentClass = this.hlComment.className;
		this.hlComment.className += ' dsq-hl-anchor';

		setTimeout("Dsq.Thread.highlightClear()", 3000);
	};

	this.highlightClear = function() {
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlComment.className = this.hlCommentClass;
	};

	this.login = function(toggle) {
		// toggle id is #dsq-reply-login-[id]
		var postId;
		if(toggle.id.indexOf('dsq-reply-login') != -1) {
			postId = toggle.id.slice(16);
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + postId);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(toggle) {
			if(toggle.className == 'dsq-login-active') {
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(container, postId);
				toggle.className = '';
			} else {
				Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
				toggle.className = 'dsq-login-active';
			}
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
		}

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};


	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked, per_page) {
		// Use extra_params to pass any override parameters that we need to persist.
		var extra_params = '';

		// "Per page" can either be overriden by providing it as an argument
		// (per-call) or setting the disqus_per_page override variable (global).
		if(typeof per_page == 'undefined') {
			per_page = null;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined' && per_page === null) {
			per_page = disqus_per_page;
		}

		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}
		if(per_page !== null) {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + per_page;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			el_clicked.style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'microsoft_postpones_pdc'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};

	this.sortBy = function(sort) {
		var disqus_script = document.createElement('script');
		var disqus_date = new Date();

		if (location.hash != '') {
			location.hash = '#disqus_thread';
		}

		if(typeof(disqus_url) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_url = disqus_href;
		}
		disqus_script.type = 'text/javascript';
		disqus_script.src = 'http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'microsoft_postpones_pdc'
			+ '&sort='	+ sort
			+ '&title='
			+ '&'		+ disqus_date.getTime();

		Dsq.$('dsq-comments').innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif">';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(disqus_script);
	};

	this.subscribe = function(status, email) {
		// `status` is an int -- 1 to subscribe, 0 to unsubscribe
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || email) {
			// If authenticated user OR anonymous email provided

			if(email) {
				Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
			}

			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/subscribe.js'
				+'?status=' 	+ status
				+ '&slug='		+ 'microsoft_postpones_pdc'
				+ '&email=' 	+ encodeURIComponent(email));

		} else if(!email) {
			// If anonymous user and no email has been provided yet, prompt for email

			var title = 'Subscribe to this comment thread';
			var message = ' \
				New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox! \
				<div class="dsq-subscribe-submit"> \
					<p><strong>Enter your email address below.</strong></p> \
					<input type="text" id="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
					<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1, Dsq.$(\'dsq-subscribe-email\').value)">Subscribe</button> \
				</div> \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
		}
	};

	this.showSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return;
		}

		/* The form has to be re-designed when more options will come out. */
		var html = 'Automatically close comments after <input size="3" id="dsq-thread-days-alive" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.days_alive + '" type="text" /> days. Existing comments will still be displayed.<br /><br />(Using 0 days will disable this feature)<br /><br />'
								 + '<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.updateDaysAlive();" class="dsq-button-small"><span>Save</span></button>'
								 + '<span id="dsq-thread-settings-status" class="dsq-options-status"></span>';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Settings');
	};

  this.showModeratorActions = function() {
      if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
          return;
      }

      var html = '<div class="dsq-moderate-options"><table><tr>' +
                 '<td>' + Dsq.Strings.ACTIONS + '</td><td><ul>';
      html += '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.toggleClosed(); return false;">' +
              (Dsq.jsonData.thread.closed ? Dsq.Strings.OPEN_THREAD : Dsq.Strings.CLOSE_THREAD) +
              '</a></li>';
      html += '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.toggleKilled(); return false;">' +
              (Dsq.jsonData.thread.killed ? Dsq.Strings.RESTORE_THREAD : Dsq.Strings.REMOVE_THREAD) +
              '</a></li>';
      html += '</ul></td></tr></table></div>' +
              '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate-threads/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
      Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, Dsq.Strings.MODERATE_OPTIONS);
  };

	this.updateDaysAlive = function() {
		  var days = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-days-alive').value;
		  var status = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-settings-status');
		  Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/update_days_alive.js', {days:days,thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
		  status.innerHTML = 'Saved!';
		  window.setTimeout(function() { status.innerHTML = ''; }, 1000);
	};

  this.toggleClosed = function() {
      Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/toggle_thread_closed.js', {thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
      window.setTimeout(function() { window.location.reload(); }, 500);
  };

  this.toggleKilled = function() {
      Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/toggle_thread_killed.js', {thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
      window.setTimeout(function() { window.location.reload(); }, 500);
  };
};
// Dsq.Thread

Dsq.Events = function() {
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var handlers = {};
	var getHandlers = function(event) {
		if (handlers[event] === undefined) {
			handlers[event] = [];
		}
		return handlers[event];
	};

	// Public
	// Value keys : postId, node, xtype
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED = 1;
	// Value keys : postId, opened
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED = 2;
	obj.fire = function(event, opt_value) {
		if (!event) {
			throw new Error('Unknown event');
		}
		var value = opt_value || {};
		for (var i=0; i<getHandlers(event).length; i++) {
			getHandlers(event)[i](value);
		}
	};
	obj.addHandler = function(event, callback) {
		getHandlers(event).push(callback);
	};

	return obj;
}();

/**
 * Dsq.Realtime
 */
Dsq.Realtime = new function() {
	var initialized = false;
	var interval = null;
	var last_checked = Dsq.jsonData.request.timestamp;
	var new_posts = [];
	var ongoing_request = false;
	var prev_script = null;

	function updateNewPostCount() {
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-alert').style.display = new_posts.length ? 'block' : 'none';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-queued').innerHTML = new_posts.length
		+ ' new '
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, 'comment', 'comments')
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, ' was', ' were')
		+ ' just posted.';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.SHOW + ')';
	}

	function insertNewPosts() {
		var post_id = null;
		var after_id = Dsq.$('dsq-sort-select').value === 'oldest' ? -1 : null;

		for (var i=0; i<new_posts.length; i++) {
			post_id = new_posts[i];
			Dsq.Post.insert(after_id, post_id, Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id].message);
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		}
		new_posts = [];
	}

	this.enableInterval = function() {
		interval = setInterval(Dsq.Realtime.check, Dsq.jsonData.context.realtime_speed);
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.ENABLED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.PAUSE + ')';
	}

	this.disableInterval = function() {
		if (interval) {
			clearInterval(interval);
			interval = null;
		}
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.PAUSED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.RESUME + ')';
	}

	this.toggleInterval = function() {
		if (!interval) {
			Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
		} else {
			Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
		}
		return false;
	}

	this.initialize = function() {
		if (!initialized) {
			initialized = true;
			Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').onclick = this.toggleInterval;
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').onclick = this.show;
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
			if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.realtime_paused) {
				Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
			} else {
				Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
			}
		}
	}

	this.show = function() {
		insertNewPosts();
		updateNewPostCount();
		return false;
	}

	this.check = function() {
		if (!ongoing_request && Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			if (prev_script) {
				prev_script.parentNode.removeChild(prev_script);
			}
			ongoing_request = true;
			prev_script = Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/18361354/realtime.js?timestamp=' + last_checked);
		}
	};

	this.update = function(timestamp, posts, users) {
		ongoing_request = false;
		last_checked = timestamp;

		if (users) {
			for (var user_id in users) {
				if (users.hasOwnProperty(user_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id] = users[user_id];
					}
				}
			}
		}

		if (posts) {
			for (var post_id in posts) {
				if (posts.hasOwnProperty(post_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] = posts[post_id];
						new_posts.push(post_id);
					}
				}
			}

			if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				insertNewPosts();
			} else {
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
		}
	};

}();

// DEPRECATED
Dsq.Iframes = function() {
	// Different style of object from the above. Hoping to switch to this for some reason.
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var showIframeInContainer = function(container, id, markup) {
		// Look through container for iframes, hiding them, except show one that matches id
		// If none of them matched id, create a new iframe using markup and insert it.
		// Returns the iframe node if and only if it was newly created.
		var found = false;
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				if (child.id == id) {
					child.style.display = 'block';
					found = true;
				} else {
					child.style.display = 'none';
				}
			}
		}
		if (found) {
			return;
		}
		// The iframe wasn't found, so construct it and add it to the container.
		// Don't use innerHTML because it might reload iframes
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		div.innerHTML = markup;
		var iframe = div.childNodes[0];
		div.removeChild(iframe);
		container.appendChild(iframe);
		return iframe;
	};

	// Public
	obj.makeReplyIframeId = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var id = 'dsq-post-add-iframe';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			id += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			id += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return id;
	};
	obj.makeLoginIframeId = function(opt_postId) {
		if (!opt_postId) {
			return 'dsq-login-iframe';
		}
		return 'dsq-login-iframe-' + opt_postId;
	};
	obj.makeReplyIframeName = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var name = 'dsq-reply-frame';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			name += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			name += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return name;
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId, opt_extraParams, opt_className) {
		// Construct the id so we can check if it's already present.
		// Hide any other iframes we find, and show this one if it's found.
		var params = opt_extraParams || {};
		// use xtype in the id and name so we can distinguish media replies from text replies:
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeId(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var name = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeName(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var attributes = {
			'id': id,
			'name': name,
			'class': opt_className || 'dsq-post-reply'
			};
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameReply(opt_postId, opt_extraParams, attributes);
		var iframe = showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
		// It was newly created
		if (iframe) {
			Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED, {
				postId: opt_postId,
				node: iframe,
				xtype: params.xtype
			});
		}
	};
	obj.showLoginIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId) {
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeLoginIframeId(opt_postId);
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: id});
		showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed = function(container, opt_postId) {
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			obj.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, opt_postId);
		} else {
			obj.hideAllInContainer(container);
		}
	};
	obj.hideAllInContainer = function(container) {
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				child.style.display = 'none';
			}
		}
	};

	return obj;
}();

Dsq.Twitter = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.startTwitterConnect = function() {
		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=400';
		that._twitterWindow = window.open(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/twitter/begin/', 'twitterWindow', popupParams);
		that._twitterInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeTwitterConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeTwitterConnect = function() {
		if (that._twitterWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._twitterInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.Yahoo = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.startYahooConnect = function() {
		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=400';
		that._yahooWindow = window.open(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/yahoo/begin/', 'yahooWindow', popupParams);
		that._yahooInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeYahooConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeYahooConnect = function() {
		if (that._yahooWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._yahooInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.OpenID = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.requestURL = function() {
		var message = '<table class="dsq-openid-form"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;" rowspan="2"><img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url + '/images/openid-icon-100x100.png" /></td>';
		message += '<td><label for="dsq-openid-url">OpenID URL:</label></td><td><input type="text" id="dsq-openid-url" /></td></tr>';
		message += '<tr><td><label for="dsq-openid-username">Display name:</label></td><td><input type="text" id="dsq-openid-username" /></td></tr>';
		message += '<tr><td class="dsq-openid-submit" colspan="3"><input type="button" value="Sign in" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.startConnect();" /></td></tr>';
		message += "</table>";

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sign in using OpenID');
	};

	this.startConnect = function() {
		var isblank = function(str) {
			return /^\s*$/.test(str);
		};

		var openid_url = Dsq.$('dsq-openid-url').value;
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-openid-username').value;

		if (isblank(openid_url)) {
			return;
		}

		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=500';
		var url = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/openid/begin/' + '?url=' + encodeURIComponent(openid_url) + '&username=' + encodeURIComponent(username);
		that._openidWindow = window.open(url, 'openidWindow', popupParams);
		that._openidInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeConnect = function() {
		if (that._openidWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._openidInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.Reaction = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.hide = function(id) {
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/scobleizer/hidereaction.js?' + 'reaction_id=' + id);
	};

	this.reportMissingReactions = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled) {
			return;
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.queued) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Your report has been received. The system will automatically search for new reactions; if any are found, they will be displayed on this comment thread.<br/><br/>Thank&nbsp;you.',
												 'Reported missing reactions');
			return;
		}

		Dsq.Utils.execScript(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/forums/scobleizer/queueurl.js');
	};
};

Dsq.CNN = function() {
	var obj = {};

	obj.authenticate = function() {
		var url = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + "/saml/cnn/try/";
		Dsq.Utils.postToUrl(url, {'target': document.location}, true);
	};

	return obj;
}();


if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
	(function() {
		DSQ_HEADER_AVATAR_RE = /<div class="dsq-header-avatar"(.*?)>/gim;
		Dsq.Templates.registerFilter('postPrependHeader', function(html, post_id) {
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679527" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679527" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679527">Stephane Rodriguez</span>\
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	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679527" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679527" class="dsq-comment-message">Scoble said "This is a bummer, because .NET is a lot easier to write than C++ "<br><br>What you don\'t seem to understand is that writing the code is just a slice of the development lifecycle. The total cost comprises a lot of other pieces.<br><br>And I thought you linked to guys like Jeff Atwood or Scott Hanselman for a reason... /sarcasm</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679526" href="http://www.base4.net/blog.aspx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Alex James</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679526" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679526" class="dsq-comment-message">Seriously though is this really a surprise?<br><br>Mix07 was filled with so much cool new stuff it might as well have been a PDC?<br><br>I was wondering what they had left over to unveil at the real PDC...</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679525" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679525" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679525" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679525" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679525" class="dsq-comment-message">Stephane: true. But there aren\'t many projects that are starting today based on C++. Why not? Because other methodologies are faster/cheaper etc. Not to mention that most developers coming out of school are trained on Java and haven\'t built a huge amount of expertise on C++.<br><br>Jeff and Scott are both .NET types. That is if they are still writing Microsoft-centric code (I think Jeff wrote that he\'s moving to LAMP and picking up Ruby on Rails).<br><br>I had many developers inside Microsoft tell me that they wish they could use .NET instead of compiled C++. Why? It\'s more fun to write .NET code and it\'s faster. It\'s also harder to write bugs due to the memory management.<br><br>But, yeah, I know it is only part of the decision process. Thanks for pointing out to everyone that there\'s more to the story than the writing code part.<br><br>I assume my readers are smart and don\'t need to have everything spelled out in inane detail like that.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679524" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679524" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679524">Stephane Rodriguez</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679524" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679524" class="dsq-comment-message">Scoble said "After all, if Microsoft is unwilling to use it to develop Windows or Office, why should the rest of us base our life on it? Easy, it’s a lot more productive for the rest of us to write code in .NET"<br><br>Again, no, the reason why Microsoft wants everyone to use .NET is because it\'s tied to Windows. A .NET developer is a developer who\'s using Windows. In and of itself, he\'s a marketer for Windows. Any product shipped under that umbrella is an incentive to buy Windows licenses as opposed to Mac/Linux licenses.<br><br>Please don\'t get me started with the Linux .NET Mono thing. It\'s from Novell, the company that will go bankrupt within two years for screwing their own customers...à la Microsoft.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679523" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679523" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679523" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679523" class="dsq-comment-message">Alex? So much cool stuff? Silverlight indeed was cool but was a repurposing of .NET and wasn\'t that major. That\'s not like a new version of Windows or Office. Maybe I\'m reading it wrong, though.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679521" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679521" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679521" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679521" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679521" class="dsq-comment-message">Stephane: a subset of .NET is coming to Macintosh. Check out Silverlight. But in general I agree with your comments in #4.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679520" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679520" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679520">Stephane Rodriguez</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679520" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679520" class="dsq-comment-message">Scoble said "Not to mention that most developers coming out of school are trained on Java and haven’t built a huge amount of expertise on C++."<br><br>You are probably right, but I think most are trained in academic Java (i.e. algorithms, infrastructure, ...), not in the Java that is meant to make them become Java sweatshop workers.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679522" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679522" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679522">Stephane Rodriguez</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679522" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679522" class="dsq-comment-message">Scoble said "subset of .NET is coming to Macintosh. Check out Silverlight"<br><br>Scoble, you are screwing it again.<br><br>Let me say for you : Microsoft Mac silverlight runtime is a free publicity. In a time where they are, arguably, being criticized for promoting stuff that only works with their own products/APIs, they have to come up with something that changes that perception. Repeat, PERCEPTION. What they want is to sell Windows licenses period.<br><br>It\'s foolish to think the Mac runtime is meant to show how good the Microsoft developers are, when at the same time they have every reason to build on their own investments, for instance DirectX (hardware acceleration in particular). This won\'t ship for the Mac, right?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679519" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679519" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679519" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679519" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679519" class="dsq-comment-message">Stephane: which is why I said "subset." Of course the Mac will always be treated as a second class citizen. Silverlight was about beating Adobe\'s Flex/Flash. I don\'t remember DirectX being built into Flash either.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679518" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679518" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679518">Stephane Rodriguez</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679518" class="dsq-comment-message">For Microsoft Mac silverlight proposition to be taken seriously, they have to build something that looks like a Mac component, ie with the theming, look and feel, and all that stuff a Mac user expects.<br><br>That\'s why Microsoft insistence on reinventing the wheel inside the browser is not right. And we\'ve seen that movie before with ActiveX controls.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679517" href="http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsexperience/default.aspx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Brandon LeBlanc</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679517" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679517" class="dsq-comment-message">According to the post on Microsoft\'s PDC site it says the event is being re-scheduled (aka postponed) and not cancelled. No where do I see Microsoft saying the event is cancelled.<br><br>Perhaps they will hold it sometime in early Winter? Maybe Spring 2008?<br><br>For an event where many folks were looking forward to, I highly doubt it has been cancelled.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679514" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679514" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679514" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679514" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679514" class="dsq-comment-message">Brandon: you have a good point. I changed my headline to say it was postponed.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679515">Keith</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679515" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679515" class="dsq-comment-message">Vista has some seriously obvious bugs all over the shell, and I can\'t help but think that had they used WPF (with it\'s excellent databinding/refresh) to write a clean version of the shell (and I\'m really not interested in hearing MS\' excuses about code investment...the shit\'s broken, and it\'s got too many layers of functionality to clean it up properly; it was bad in XP, but in Vista, it\'s an embarrassment).<br>I can see them not wanting to have managed drivers or lower-level stuff, but the shell?!?!  Hell, I\'ve seen a friggin\' AJAX approximation of the core functionality of Aero, so it can\'t be a huge stretch. But regardless, I\'ve seen this in every app I\'ve worked on: every rev, more features get added on &amp; bugs get fixed, but refactoring is too risky/too costly/too something, and the cohesiveness of what the app should be gets lost as hacks get thrown in, or features that should use existing code get reimplemented separately.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679516" href="http://diegov.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Diego</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679516" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679516" class="dsq-comment-message">MIX this year was full of exciting announcements for developers. A PDC before the end of the year could not add much.<br><br>Also, many teams in the Developer Division have been shipping early CTPs of their products for some time, but they have had a few bad steps (especially with WinFS) and now they cannot even announce something is going to be delayed without putting all developers in panic.<br><br>So I guess they are learning to be more careful. Personally, I like it more if they blow my expectations when they ship :)<br><br>Regarding .NET code in Windows, it is an interesting topic. I think you will see much more of it in Windows Server 2008. By the way, I wonder how much of Solaris is written in Java these days.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679585">Skip</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679585" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679585" class="dsq-comment-message">As I understand it, the problem with using .net internally in Vista is that processes can\'t use more than one version of the .net runtime.  So that pretty much eliminates it from usage in any DLL that developers would link to, because otherwise we\'d be locked into whatever version of the runtime they developed against.<br><br>I suspect complete, standalone apps could be written in .net with no problems, but there really isn\'t much of that in the OS.<br><br>Note:  I was a c++ developer for years, but have been developing in c# exclusively for about the last 4.  I wouldn\'t have a problem going back to c++.  But I\'d hate to have to work with new guys coming up in c++ who haven\'t had the practices beat into them that avoid c++ problems like memory leaks.  c# avoids some (but not all) of that.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679584" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679584" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679584">Stephane Rodriguez</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679584" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679584" class="dsq-comment-message">"the problem with using .net internally in Vista is that processes can’t use more than one version of the .net runtime."<br><br>It\'s indeed one of the problems, even though a fix for that is to proxy calls to outside EXEs. Doing so means that you are back to good ol\' COM infrastructure...<br><br>What Microsoft faces with this (remember: it\'s just one problem), is also faced by anybody out there. For instance, if you are deployed an Excel addin written in .NET, you are at the mercy of everyone else\'s Excel addin which are loaded before you. It\'s a non-starter except for trivial addins that are version independent.<br><br><br>"But I’d hate to have to work with new guys coming up in c++ who haven’t had the practices beat into them that avoid c++ problems like memory leaks. c# avoids some (but not all) of that."<br><br>C++ memory leaks? Sure, if you are not disciplined, it will burn you. But frankly, if you are building on a proper infrastructure, all your allocations are properly wrapped, and it does not leak.<br>In .NET, I would not say this thing does not leak. First because there is the perception of leak, just do a loop that creates new Strings, and because if your code (or a library you depend on) uses any COM/PInvoke transition, then you are back to square one. For instance, System.Drawing is a wrapper of GDI+. GDI/GDI+ is severely limited by what\'s known as the "desktop heap". All the wrong conclusions follow, despite that you are using .NET</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679582">Luke</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679582" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679582" class="dsq-comment-message">"But almost no Vista code was written in .NET (if any, actually). Microsoft tries to keep this secret because they know it gives a black eye to .NET"<br><br>"The original plan for Longhorn was to build lots of components on top of the next version of the .Net Framework," according to one of our developer sources, who requested anonymity. "But given how late (.Net Framework 2.0) is, and how new it would be (Microsoft Chairman) Bill Gates realized it would be foolish to build important pieces of Longhorn on top of .Net."<br>(<a href="http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/developer/the_dirty_little_secret_about_longhorn.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/develope...</a>)<br><br>- I believe a lot of Vistas Media Center was written in managed code.<br><br>The following blog entries outline some of the other MS products using managed code.<br><br><a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/danielfe/archive/2005/12/16/504847.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.msdn.com/danielfe/archive/2005/12/...</a><br><a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/danielfe/archive/2004/11/02/251254.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.msdn.com/danielfe/archive/2004/11/...</a><br><br>I definitely think a managed kernel wont be in Windows for a while, but services within windows itself could take advantage of managed code.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679581">Jim</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679581" class="dsq-comment-message">Scoble said "But almost no Vista code was written in .NET (if any, actually). "<br><br>I thought Media Center and some of the applets were written in C#?<br><br>I\'m not sure what the issue is with performance, I use Expression Blend all the time and it seems just fine to me (and it is all WPF). Sure, you wouldn\'t want to use C# for core bits of the OS but for apps it would seem OK.<br><br>Before they worry about competing with OSX in terms of performance they need to compete in terms of security and usability.<br><br>You are coming to a sad realization. Cancel or allow?</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679579">skc</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679579" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679579" class="dsq-comment-message">Actually, Stephane...it\'s idiotic to state that you\'ll avoid memory leaks in C++ if you "stay disciplined". The same thing obviously applies to C#. The same applies to .Net. You\'ll avoid memory leaks if you also "stay disciplined". Forget the marketing literature. Personally, I can\'t think of any our current .Net projects...we have at least 15 or so large scale systems out in the wild today...that have memory leak issues. I shudder to think how long it would have taken to reach feature parity on these projects had we used C++.<br><br>Oh and Robert, I think you\'ll find that most .Net devs don\'t actually care all that much that there is no "OMG!! another new dev platform!!!!1", if anything, we\'ve been barraged with them for the past few years and it\'s hard to keep up.<br><br>Non story if you ask me.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679577" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679577" href="http://aarthir.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Aarthi</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679577" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679577" class="dsq-comment-message">Contrast this to Google who is holding a huge developer day next week (it sold out, so I won’t even bother linking to it). Or Facebook, who held a big developer-centric shindig today.<br><br>You are really comparing the incomparables here. Like a few people pointed out in the comments here, Mix \'07 was a huge event and there\'s a lot going on with respect to DLR. There\'s nothing half as exciting IMHO, from Google land.<br><br>As for the Facebook announcement, Microsoft also did a demo there talking about Popfly integration in Facebook.<br><br>The PDC being postponed does not indicate a slack in what Microsoft does for developers. You are just reading too much between the lines.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679576" href="http://www.bynkii.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">John C. Welch</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679576" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>Of course the Mac will always be treated as a second class citizen. Silverlight was about beating Adobe’s Flex/Flash. I don’t remember DirectX being built into Flash either.</i><br><br>That\'s because you can\'t run Direct X on anything but Windows. For Direct X to be in Flash would be quite stupid.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679575" href="http://www.base4.net/blog.aspx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Alex James</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679575" class="dsq-comment-message">"Alex? So much cool stuff? Silverlight indeed was cool but was a repurposing of .NET and wasn’t that major."<br><br>Ah but I think you are missing the importance of things like Astoria... I have pretty good idea of the long term direction of Astoria and it is pretty much going to take us into the realm of Intentional Programming. I have a whole series of posts on this stretching back over a year now. This was the first: <a href="http://www.base4.net/blog.aspx?ID=36" rel="nofollow">http://www.base4.net/blog.aspx?ID=36</a><br><br>See the value in REST is that it forces you to create intentional systems. And there is no better way to integrate systems... and some people at Microsoft get that now.<br><br>More importantly intentional systems plus meta-data about those systems will make it possible to create smart interfaces that allow for end-users not programmers to program systems (albeit by simply expressing their intent), the possibilities for the end-user experience and giving power to users are enormous...<br><br>but then maybe I am getting ahead of myself!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679574">Joe</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679574" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679574" class="dsq-comment-message">Robert your sooo predictable,I told you before,get out of the Valley, your becoming a cheerleader for Google and any other company  in the area, just as bad as when your worked for MSFT.<br><br>Move to Texas or something,no then you would be preaching to the masses about Dell and the Dallas Cowboys.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679573">Joe</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679573" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679573" class="dsq-comment-message">"The person who told me this (who works at Microsoft) told me .NET still takes too long to startup and load into memory and because Windows is now being compared to OSX they can’t afford to ship components that would slow down Windows."<br><br>Robert Scoble<br><br>Are you kidding me? how could that hurt,OSX may be a nice OS, but fast isn\'t something that comes to mind.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679572" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679572">Vic Berggren</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679572" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679572" class="dsq-comment-message">&gt;&gt;The person who told me this (who works at Microsoft) told me .NET still takes too long to startup and load into memory<br><br>This is one of the big reasons why many of us are still supporting asp and com based web applications.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679571" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679571">Chris</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679571" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679571" class="dsq-comment-message">Are you kidding me?  An OS built with .net? Why would you think that an app framework could be used to build an OS?  Man, take the time to understand what you\'re saying here.  An OS is not in any way, shape or form like some garage-based web 2.0 project built by a 4th grader.  An OS is serious stuff and has different and special requirements that plain old apps don\'t.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679570" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679570" href="http://office12.blogpsot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Sheetal</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679570" class="dsq-comment-message">Thanks for sharing this info with us Scoble.<br><br>Its funny both Java and .NET are byte code based languages  and Sun on onther hand is trying they can to push JRE as platform but doesnt seem to have lot of success except some success in mobile phone market, which in my opinion is already crowded. I do not have any benchmark on how well Java performs but given how far .NET has come (specially with 3.0 and 3.5) I am still betting my horses on .NET<br><br>I recently talked to one of the CLR team members and they certainy are aware of this issue and my impresssion was that they are close to solving the loading issue. We have to wait and see how things folds in next 6-12 months.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679568" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679568" href="http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/paul/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">paul</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679568" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679568" class="dsq-comment-message">We have dual core processors on our laptops today, in a year we\'ll have quad core and soon after eight core.<br><br>Multi-core, multi-threaded managed code is our developer platform destiny.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679567">Skip</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679567" class="dsq-comment-message">What I meant about C++ is that, over years of doing c++ little techniques to manage the complexity become second nature.   Things like \'oh, I just created a heap object here, before I write the code that uses it I\'m going to jump to the disposal spot and write the delete call\'.  Or \'hmm, there is no one place to put the delete call.  That\'s a bad idea, let me redesign this.\'   There are dozens, if not hundreds of things like this that any seasoned decent c++ guy will do automatically, because he\'s had to spend time fixing the code that didn\'t do them.<br><br>Guys who\'ve never spent time in the trenches in a non-GC language don\'t have this.  So if they do end up having to work in c++, even if they\'re now experienced developers I\'m going to have to treat them like entry-level guys.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679566" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679566">El Guapo</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679566" class="dsq-comment-message">You are off on this one.<br><br>PDC is about *developers*. There is a huge new release of Visual Studio coming in the fall ("Orcas"), and a huge new release of SQL server ("katmai").<br><br>These things are the bread and butter of PDC. This is the PERFECT time to have a PDC. There is absolutely no reason for MS to cancel it unless they are really floundering.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679565" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679565">kiddie</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679565" class="dsq-comment-message">That shows you how much confidence they have in silverflash!<br><br>They\'re going down, down, down...</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679563" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679563" href="http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/paul/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">paul</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679563" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679563" class="dsq-comment-message">Silverlight will be ubiquitous by October.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679560" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679560" href="http://www.craigberntson.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Craig Berntson</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679560" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679560" class="dsq-comment-message">When Steve Sinofsky ran the Office team, it was difficult if not impossible to get information out them. They ran a tight ship with little leaks. Why are we surprised at not hearing much about the next Windows now that he runs that group?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679559" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679559">Joe</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679559" class="dsq-comment-message">The cancelation has more to do with Ray Ozzie and Steven Sinofsky\'s desire for secrecy more than anything<br>else.<br>The days of MSFT giving the longview of their coming products is over.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679558">LayZ</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679558" class="dsq-comment-message">“This is a bummer, because .NET is a lot easier to write than C++ "<br><br>You obviously don\'t know this from experience.  Aren\'t you basically repeating things that others have told you?  You DO understand the differences between Ç++ and .Net, right? The fact that one is a programming language and one is a development platform?  Perhaps you meant to compare the differences between C++ and C#?</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679557">Keith</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679557" class="dsq-comment-message">Regarding the C++ practices of memory cleanup carrying over to C#, sure if you\'ve never had to craft your memory allocs to use more stack allocs vs. heap allocs for auto-cleanup or pay attention to delete\'ing your new\'ed vars, you can still code leakless C# apps. However, the aforementioned practices are still valuable in .Net as a whole. Think about the use of the "using" statement in conjunction with IDisposable for the former scenario. And for memory leaks, you may not get those if you aren\'t accustomed to cleaning up your own allocs, but you can still get leaks of other, non-GC\'ed resources, such as database handles and COM object references. You can effectively orphan these things even with the GC\'er.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679556" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679556" href="http://www.TechHerding.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">techherding</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679556" class="dsq-comment-message">Brandon:  "According to the post on Microsoft’s PDC site it says the event is being re-scheduled (aka postponed) and not cancelled. "<br><br>Uh, yeah.  Ranks right up there with "I still want to be friends" and "the check is in your mouth."  If you say "cancelled" I bet you have to give back all the money from the sponsors and exhibitors.  I bet you have to actually admit that you couldn\'t put on a meaningful show and that customers would rip you a new one.  I bet that you\'d have a great platform to promote Live! and for some reason just don\'t want to do it.<br><br>Lines.  Read between.  Proof is left for the student as an exercise.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679554" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679554" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679554" class="dsq-comment-message">LayZ: I used to work as an editor at Visual Basic Programmer\'s Journal so I know the difference between C++ that compiles to native code and VB or C# that runs on the .NET compiler/framework/ecosystem or whatever you want to call it. But, you\'re right. Most of this post comes from what other people who know a lot more than I do tell me.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679555">seshadri</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679555" class="dsq-comment-message">"This is a bummer, because .NET is a lot easier to write than C++"<br><br>Though this statement is incorrect in a strict sense(you can\'t write IN .NET) it is also very true in another sense.<br><br>irrespective of the language you use(VB,C#, Managed C++ ...) programming with the .NET FW and targeting the CLR is easier than writing native code using C++.<br><br>The general statement "Writing apps using .NET is easier than C++" is still very valid.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679553" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679553" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679553" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679553" class="dsq-comment-message">Seshadri: thanks. Plus, it\'s easier to say "in .NET" than to explicitly write out "in C#, or VB.NET, etc. etc."</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679552" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679552">David Balder</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679552" class="dsq-comment-message">Geeze.<br>They JUST had a very successful MIX conference, which was a *real* DC.  Scoble wants "DCs" like Apple\'s WWDCs, which, despite the "DC" in the name, are aimed at consumers rather than devs.  (Just compare the MIX07 keynote to a Jobs WWDC keynote, and see which is a real "DC".)  Scoble, you say you want announcements of new Windows and Office?  New versions JUST now came out.<br><br>And the notion that Microsoft is doing nothing for devs this year is more foolishness.  Ever heard of Orcas?  Ever heard of LINQ?  Ever heard of C# 3.0 and 3.5?  You should read Wes Deyer\'s MSDN blog for some of the cool C# features that are coming this year (whcih will put Java more behind than it already is, feature wise).<br><br><br>Lastly, your "informants" are pulling your leg.  OSX isn\'t known for its speed, so why would anyone be worried about speed comparisons with OSX?<br><br>And this ".NET takes too long to load" is bull.  Once the first app loads it, all other apps that use it load very quickly.  The entire Expression sweet is WPF for crying out loud.  So Microsoft is using .NET for new apps (expecting them to rewrite Office in .NET is idiotic).<br><br>I don\'t know where Scoble is getting his info; either from people taking advantage of his gullibility by pulling his leg, or from the malcontents at minimsft.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679550" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679550" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679550" class="dsq-comment-message">You\'ve got to be kidding if you think the keynote with Mike Arrington and Ray Ozzie at Mix07 was any more developer focused than what Steve Jobs does at the WWDC.<br><br>I\'ve heard the .NET startup time problem from a range of developers across Microsoft\'s Windows team. It isn\'t a big deal to wait for Silverlight to startup, but it IS a huge deal to delay Windows starting up by a few seconds.<br><br>Ask yourself: why isn\'t any code in Windows written in .NET? Not even the games were written in .NET. That\'s a fact and is one that I hear probably won\'t change, even in the next version of Windows.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679551" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679551" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679551" class="dsq-comment-message">OSX starts up fast, especially off of sleep mode. I have a Mac and it starts up faster than my Vista machines (and is more reliable on startup too).</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679549" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679549" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679549" class="dsq-comment-message">And, David, maybe you should do some research into what I did at Microsoft. Go and look at this video of Anders Hejlsberg. It was where he announced LINQ to the world. I was behind the camera. <a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=115010" rel="nofollow">http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1...</a><br>Oh, that was September 2005. So, where\'s the "new" stuff? That\'s what the PDC is for. When Microsoft decides not to hold a PDC it\'s an admission that they don\'t have enough "new" stuff to talk about.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679548">skc</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679548" class="dsq-comment-message">Robert, quite with the "whyt isn\'t Windows written in .Net".<br><br>Let me ask you a question, what cool language that Google/Technorati/Flickr/Twitter (or whoever is "hip and happening" in your world today) uses should Windows components be written in? Javascript? Ruby? Python? Java? What are you trying to say exactly? What language/platform should they use in your highly esteemed opinion?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679547" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679547" href="http://www.vinull.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Michael Neel</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679547" class="dsq-comment-message">Using an app framework for an OS isn\'t the right tool for the job.  There are .Net apps coming from MS,and there are apps that have a good deal of legacy code to work with that make more sense not using .Net - idealism shouldn\'t run project management.<br><br>We are far from the days of MFC where Microsoft wrote only Notepad in their own framework.  It\'s also wrong to say Microsoft is only out to sell Vista - that\'s no different than saying Google is only a search engine.<br><br>DevConnections and other conferences are still coming, and with MIX just over (and SilverLight running a .Net CLR on Win and Mac is a big deal) it can simply be there isn\'t a need for PDC this year.  Microsoft is doing excellent by developers with Orcas, .Net 3.5, LINQ, and the Expression lineup. As a blogger, it\'s cool to talk about what\'s coming - but as a developer it only matters what is here.  This stuff may be old news to some, but to developers it\'s real now - and that\'s a big deal.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679544" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679544" href="http://www.meadroid.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jerry Mead</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679544" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679544" class="dsq-comment-message">I well remember the 1996 PDC, where almost every keynote announcement (including Microsoft signing a licensing deal with Sun for Java) was greeted with wild applause. And there was Jobs on stage as a speaker, 100% uncomfortable and insincere, but ... THERE.<br><br>The "100 Days into the Internet" vibe of that PDC just made it an extraordinary event.<br><br>Cut to the 2005 PDC, where virtually the whole of BillG\'s and Allchin\'s keynotes were received in stoney silence (Speakers has to resort to begging for applause: "Oh, so you\'re not impressed by that, huh?").<br><br>No fun for anyone, CTPs and MSFT blogging had already pre-empted most of it. Old news, all of it ... at $4K a pop.<br><br>A PDC in support of bit of Orcas (already beta\'d at MIX) and a bit of Katmai would fall even flatter. Forget about it.<br><br>In fact the whole PDC thing may even have run its course in favour of more lightweight gigs like MIX.<br><br>We\'ll see.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679543" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679543" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679543" href="http://www.foothillmedia.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Steve Traversi</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679543" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'ve long been a Windows user (don\'t think I\'ll go so far as fan) and developer, creating both client and Windows applications. The purchase of a notebook with Vista was the impetus for buying my first Mac. The speed of the mac prompted the purchase of a macbook three weeks later.<br><br>Why is any of this relevant? Microsoft should be treading lightly with any new announcements as Vista is causing many long-time Windows users to throw their hands up in disgust and high-tail it the Apple Store to buy a computer that boots in 30 seconds and doesn\'t run the hard drive incessantly for thirty minutes for no apparent reason. Was Vista really ready for primetime or did they just need a fresh influx of cash that quarter?<br><br>I think .NET wasn\'t used in the OS because they were already battling speed issues and .NET was only going to contribute to the problem.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679542" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679542" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679542">Mike A</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679542" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>Are you kidding me? how could that hurt,OSX may be a nice OS, but fast isn’t something that comes to mind.</i><br><br>Wake-up call: it\'s 2007 now.  We\'re talking versus Vista, not XP.<br><br>I\'ve run OS X on an old G3 with 512 MB of RAM.  It\'s certainly not fast, but it\'s actually usable (for basic stuff - e-mail, web browsing, Office, etc.).  I dare you to try using Vista on a Pentium II/366 with 512 MB of RAM and an old ATI Rage card.  Even just using IE or Office would be an incredibly painful and slow experience (ignoring the fact that you probably wouldn\'t even be able to get it to install or boot).</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679541" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679541">Keith</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679541" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679541" class="dsq-comment-message">"Not even the games were written in .NET."<br><br>WTF?!?!?!  What kind of excuse do they have for *this* one?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679539" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679539" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679539">Vic Berggren</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679539" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679539" class="dsq-comment-message">.net does start up slowly, go browse some .net 1.1 web apps that have been sitting idle (no activity) for more then 20 minutes. my old vb com with asp beats that stuff with no startup wait and no configuration changes to make it go faster. why is that?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679538" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679538" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679538">Christopher Coulter</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679538" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679538" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>that they don’t have enough “new” stuff to talk about.</i><br><br>Oh they have tons to <i>TALK</i> about, delivery is another matter, too early in the hype spin cycle and I don\'t think they want a PDC 2003 repeat.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679537" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679537">David Balder</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679537" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>"You’ve got to be kidding if you think the keynote with Mike Arrington and Ray Ozzie at Mix07 was any more developer focused than what Steve Jobs does at the WWDC."</i><br><br>Scoble, have you even bothered to watch the Mix07 keynote, which was mainly mc\'ed by Scott Gutthrie, not Ozzie or Arrington.  During the keynote, someone demoed actually creating and debugging a solution from start to finish.  When has a WWDC *ever* showed debugging as part of a keynote?  WWDCs are about, "look at this new Leopard feature!" nonsense that devs really don\'t care about.<br><br><br><i>"I’ve heard the .NET startup time problem from a range of developers across Microsoft’s Windows team. It isn’t a big deal to wait for Silverlight to startup, but it IS a huge deal to delay Windows starting up by a few seconds."</i><br><br>This is absurd.  My own .NET apps start within 5 seconds if .NET hasn\'t been loaded yet, and start instantaneously if it has been.  And this has zero to do with waking from sleep mode.  From where do you obtain your tech knowledge?<br><br>And yes, I do know that you did LINQ interviews at Channel9.  That doesn\'t mean you actually know anything about the tech.  Most of your questions are of the "how does this help my mom?" type.  Here\'s a clue: Go watch one of your old Channel9 vids or one of your current PodTech vids, then immediately watch one of Rory\'s Channel9 vids.  You will see at once which interviewer has tech knowledge and which does not.  Not that your interviews aren\'t without merit, but they simply are not about technical details.  So you can\'t point to them as evidence that you actually know what you\'re talking about at a technical level.<br><br>Again, your whole point was that postponing PDC meant that Microsoft has nothing coming for developers this year when Orcas is on its way.  Your entire premise is BS.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679536" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679536">David Balder</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679536" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>“Not even the games were written in .NET.”<br><br>WTF?!?!?! What kind of excuse do they have for *this* one?</i><br><br>-------<br><br>This is so tired.  They don\'t need an *excuse*.  Why rewrite mindsweeper (for example) in .NET if they can leave the core as it is and just pretty-up the graphics?<br><br>You don\'t rewrite things just to rewrite them.  For years, OSX\'s Finder wasn\'t written on top of Cocoa\'s API.  Did that mean that Cocoa sucked?<br><br>Expression is written in .NET.  That should be evidence enough that new apps are being written in .NET.  Rewriting older apps like mindsweeper for no reason is stupid.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679535" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679535" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679535">Kenny Batson</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679535" class="dsq-comment-message">From my personal experience, .NET isn\'t so slow that it would preclude loading it at boot time.<br><br>I don\'t have Vista, but I have XP with .NET 3.0 installed.  Besides my own little side projects, the three .NET apps that I use regularly are Paint.NET, PowerShell, and XPS Viewer EP.  Loading any of these before .NET has been loaded does take some time (8 seconds at the most).  But once that\'s done, loading any of them afterward takes little time, so you wouldn\'t be able to tell the difference from a native app.  But I have a relatively fast machine.<br><br>Windows does take a long time to come out of sleep mode compared to OSX, but that has nothing to do with .NET.  Windows XP is slow coming out of sleep mode even with no .NET libs installed at all.<br><br>The reason Vista isn\'t written in .NET is that Vista wasn\'t rewritten from scratch.  It has tons of old NT code in there (and rightly so; no need to change it other than recompiling it with the stack-checking flag).<br><br>I\'m not sure what any of this has to do with PDC\'s postponment, BTW.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679534" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679534" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679534" class="dsq-comment-message">Dave: I was at Mix07 and watched the keynote. The Scott Guthrie part was excellent.<br>I see you\'re here just to throw insults my way. Congrats. Interesting that Channel 9 was built to 4.3 million unique visitors when I was doing videos at Channel 9 (I did most of the first 600 videos on Channel 9) and I don\'t remember anyone complaining about our technical depth before I left Microsoft but now you are here saying it wasn\'t deep enough. Sounds like sour grapes to me. You can\'t complain about something two years after the fact and have any credibility.<br>You\'re a genius coder. Now go add something to Windows that we\'ll all care about. Thanks.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679533" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679533" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679533" class="dsq-comment-message">Kenny: there are large portions of Vista that WERE rewritten from scratch. The audio stack, for instance. Same with the networking stack. Yet the management forbade any team from working with .NET. Why? Because working on top of .NET would build dependencies on another team inside Microsoft. Also because .NET\'s performance simply wasn\'t up to the task.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679531">LayZ</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679531" class="dsq-comment-message">@57 "don’t remember anyone complaining about our technical depth before I left Microsoft but now you are here saying it wasn’t deep enough."<br><br>Uh...maybe because you were the only bar to be measured against?  Lots of people thought the special effects in Star Wars in \'77 were cool, too. But compared to today?  They sucked. Sort of the same thing.  The tech content of your videos at Channel9 vs today\'s Channel9? Well, I think Mr. Balder has a valid point.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679530" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679530">David Balder</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679530" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679530" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>"there are large portions of Vista that WERE rewritten from scratch. The audio stack, for instance. Same with the networking stack." </i><br><br>Neither of which are candidates (nor examples of candidates) to be written on top of .NET.  Corresponding .NET-provided services would be written on top of them instead.  .NET is a high level framework, much of which sits on top of lowerlevel stuff (e.g. .NET\'s internet transport api sits on top of wininet.dll).<br><br><br><i>"Yet the management forbade any team from working with .NET. Why? Because working on top of .NET would build dependencies on another team inside Microsoft.<br>Also because .NET’s performance simply wasn’t up to the task."</i><br><br>Well, at least the "dependencies" thing is true.  Yes, the main problem with Vista\'s delays was that lots of code was being written against other code (e.g. .NET 3.0) that  was still in development, which resulted in code being checked in with no testing, leading to instable development process.  The "reset" removed lots of these dependencies, many of which where .NET dependencies.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679529" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679529" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679529" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679529" class="dsq-comment-message">#59: fair enough. So, tell me, how much has Channel 9\'s traffic gone up since I left? Compare that to the growth in traffic of <a href="http://ScobleShow.com" rel="nofollow">ScobleShow.com</a>. I have and ScobleShow has been growing a LOT faster and is quickly moving up the ranks of the Technorati list. ScobleShow reached top 2,000 blogs faster than Channel 9 did and Channel 9 had fewer blogs to compete against.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679587" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679587">Will</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679587" class="dsq-comment-message">Scoble, RE: #44.<br><br>My vista machine boots out of sleep mode before my monitor has an image on the screen, you can\'t get much faster than that!<br><br>I guess OSX\'s speed is due to a few things, firstly the limited range of hardware it has to support would mean apple can tweak for that exact hardware and leave out everything else.<br>Secondly, before the Intel switch the G4/G5 cpus meant that Apple *had* to optimize their software, whilst the PC camp was enjoying ever higher clock speeds and overall faster CPU\'s so it was less of an issue - windows got faster by default.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679586" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679586" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679586" class="dsq-comment-message">Will: well, I have a dual-core Sony Vaio which takes several seconds to get out of sleep mode while my new Mac gets out of sleep mode almost instantly. Maybe I should video tape the two coming out of sleep mode so you can see how much faster the Mac is.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679583" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679583">Wharf</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679583" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679583" class="dsq-comment-message">@63 - given you\'re such a tech genius, I\'m surprised you haven\'t considered it could be the HARDWARE that is slow to wake up? My Dell takes less than a second.<br><br>But I\'m sure you\'ll pull out some self-created stat to justify your all-knowingness. Just cos c9 had a bunch of hits in the early days is NOT a validation of the technical content level or quality. It\'s probably all the moms you were asking questions for :-)</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679545" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679545" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679545" href="http://scobleizer.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679545" class="dsq-comment-message">#64: congrats on getting a machine that wakes up so fast. I\'ve seen dozens of Windows machines and most don\'t wake up that fast.<br><br>Regarding Channel 9. That\'s not what people told us in the surveys that we did! But, interesting how the revisionists go back and make everything I did seem like shit. That\'s cool. I guess if I was in the Microsoft ecosystem right now I\'d be doing the same thing. Discredit Scoble\'s work back then, cause that way we can discredit anything he says now.<br><br>I understand how this game is played.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679580" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679580" href="http://coops.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Coops</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679580" class="dsq-comment-message">Gotta love Microsoft\'s delays. It\'s like the OS that almost never happens.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679578" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679578" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679578">Will</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679578" class="dsq-comment-message">Scoble, I don\'t doubt you, I\'m just saying it is possible for windows to do the same, I guess it depends on the hardware. I\'ll be swapping out my G4 Mac for a MacBook soonish, so I can see the difference then.<br><br>Re: your channel 9 work. That was the reason I started going there, I really enjoyed your videos, and I enjoy your podtech videos too. Given the fact that was the main content on the site, I think your surveys were right ;)<br><br>Would be nice to see some more discussions like the Vista/OSX video you did earlier in the year - I really enjoyed that.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679564" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679564">iStation</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679564" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679564" class="dsq-comment-message">"Now that Google, Amazon, Apple, are shipping platforms that are more and more interesting to Microsoft’s developer community Microsoft has to play a different game."<br><br>This year, palmtop PC (UMPC) will become a real big business.<br>I think Microsofts developer community should focus on this platform!<br>We will really need palmtop-aware applications.<br>:)<br><a href="http://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/articles/0705/16/news043.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/articles/0705/16/...</a></div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679562" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679562">Brian Shapiro</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679562" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679562" class="dsq-comment-message">There are plenty of reasons to encourage .NET for reasons within the Windows ecosystem, that have nothing to do with competitors to Windows that Microsoft is \'trying to destroy\'. One thing is .NET code is safer than what the average programmer would do, one is that if all major applications are on a virtual layer with .NET it will be easier to change the core of Windows without breaking things, one is that they can encourage different practices, including like parallel computing, by building .NET libraries around it, one is that it makes the system potentially more object-oriented and accessible to object-oriented systems, one is that there are advantages to WPF and other WinFX pillars that will make more attractive applications for Windows,... well, so, the point is people who hate Microsoft assume that there\'s no reason at all to have a coherent, integrated desktop platform, and any attempt to promote it is really on an ulterior level an attempt to destroy competitors because of proprietary tie-in. Sorry, Microsoft-haters, you really don\'t have the whole story.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679561" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679561" href="http://www.beercosoftware.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679561" class="dsq-comment-message">"This is a bummer, because .NET is a lot easier to write than C++ and letting Microsoft’s developers write .NET code for Windows would unleash a bunch of innovation."<br><br>I\'m pretty sure the core of Windows is C there Robert, not C++. You see, even C++ is not performant enough to write schedulers and low level IO.<br>.NET makes writing very high level apps easy, it does not make writing system code easy at all. It makes it harder.<br>Where you could just manipulate memory, now you have to go through several levels of indirection with .NET or Java.<br><br>I can understand how Robert is confused only having a very high level understanding of programming and technology though.<br><br>I would suggest he buy a little AVR starter kit:<br><a href="http://www.smileymicros.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.smileymicros.com/</a><br>and<br><a href="http://www.avrfreaks.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.avrfreaks.net/</a><br><br>for further info. Once he does the little "kid level" kit, his posts will snap into correctness. It\'s worth it Scoble.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679546" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679546" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9679546" href="http://diegov.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Diego</a>\
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	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679546" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679546" class="dsq-comment-message">Robert,<br><br>1.	Powershell is .NET code and it is a very important piece of Windows Server 2008. Also, I think IIS 7 is so entrenched with ASP.NET you cannot tell where one starts and the other ends (but it is not necessarily a lot of .NET code, this I don\'t know). All this is server stuff, but guess what? The same happened with Java. The sweet spot for managed code is on the server. On the client it can become as good as on the server once you overcome some limitations, like the loading time problem you mentioned. Anyway, .NET is very usable on the client side and I expect Microsoft will use it more and more in its own products. I think there is some kind of culture clash here.<br>2.	For those that argue about the limitation to one CLR for process, I heard that future versions of .NET will run on only one CLR (the latest installed), only the BCL will differ, depending on the one compiled your apps against. This is the aim of the red / blue separation of code in the framework. Also, Scott Guthrie says that you can load Silverlight and other version of the CLR on the same process.<br>3.	Speaking of Silverlight, I don\'t get what you mean by "it is a repurpose of .NET and it is not major". It is indeed major (and it took a lot of work for Microsoft), and the fact that it is still .NET is its killer feature. Don\'t forget the million of .NET developers that are happy to be "repurposed" along with it.<br>4.	About the PDCs being about Office and Windows as development platforms, I don’t think those are much relevant. The primary Microsoft “development platforms” these days are .NET and SQL Server, Windows and Office Server like Sharepoint are third and fourth, and Windows Live is probably on the rise. The Longhorn PDCs were very exciting because they were about the future of .NET and Microsoft eating its own dog food, making .NET even better. When they decided that they would not build Vista on WinFX but would instead backport most of WinFX to XP nobody cried (well, maybe some cried for WinFS). .NET got better anyway.<br><br>Regards!</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9679532">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679532" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679532" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679532">LayZ</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679532" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679532" class="dsq-comment-message">@61. Wait!  You\'re going back and checking C9 stats today compared to what they were when you were there? Then you are tracking that compared to your current stats? Can you say "insecure"?  I thought you could.<br><br>Just because it had a lot of hits isn\'t a indication of quality.  Hell, more people read People or USA Today than the NY Times or The Economist.  Does that mean People and USA Today have better, more informative content?</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9679528">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679528" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679528" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679528">anon</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679528" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679528" class="dsq-comment-message">"This is a bummer, because .NET is a lot easier to write than C++ and letting Microsoft’s developers write .NET code for Windows would unleash a bunch of innovation."<br><br>Robert, that statement is clinically retarded.  That\'s like saying writing a novel in French instead of English will unleash some kind of new theme in literature.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9679588">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679588" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679588" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679588">Keith</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679588" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679588" class="dsq-comment-message">David Balder: I\'m not talking about Minesweeper. In case you haven\'t noticed, Vista has a lot more built-in games than XP.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9679590">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679590" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679590" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679590">Some Guy</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679590" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679590" class="dsq-comment-message">"Apple’s WWDCs, which, despite the “DC” in the name, are aimed at consumers rather than devs. "<br><br>What are you, stupid or something?   You\'ve obviously never attended Apple\'s developer conference.  Take a look at the session descriptions, and then try to tell me that WWDC is for consumers.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9679589">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679589" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679589" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679589">Some Guy</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679589" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679589" class="dsq-comment-message">"For years, OSX’s Finder wasn’t written on top of Cocoa’s API."<br><br>It still isn\'t.<br><br>" Did that mean that Cocoa sucked?"<br><br>No, it means that the Finder sucks.<br><br>Seriously, the Finder is the saddest example of political compromises in Apple\'s entirety of software offerings.  I hope they\'ll finally take it out behind the barn and shoot it in time for leopard, but I\'m not holding my breath.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9679591">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9679591" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9679591" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9679591">JD</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9679591" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9679591" class="dsq-comment-message">@Diego - You are talking about things (red/blue) which weren\'t even planned properly when Longhorn was heading into beta. If you know anything about what happened for the Longhorn reset (I do and most commentators I\'ve seen do not) you would know there were both political and technical reasons for the mandate against managed code.<br><br>Incidentally, Robert is completely correct that startup times (working set goals not being reached, among other things) and versioning (servicing and of the CLR and of libraries, especially for platform features) were key technical issues, though there were others. It is also true that managed code itself was not always the main problem, and that many solutions to the problems had been considered.<br><br><br>@.Net versus C/C++ - this is a religious debate to some extent but it is very true that C# managed code development of libraries is of higher quality and quicker turnaround than C++ development. I would say undeniable but that is too strong. This is not just for buffer overruns and memory leaks, though those are the poster children. Debuggability and code analysis, in fact maintenance in general is much easier and quicker for managed code.<br><br>There is a cost for using managed code however.<br><br><br>@Robert - I do agree with your overall sentiment that Microsoft should be learning from the embarassments of the Hailstorm and WinFS announcements / followed by cuts, for example.  I do think that comparing Microsoft to Facebook and finding it wanting is kind of an overreach on your part, though you are I guess narrowly focused now on the Web 2.0 development sphere or whatever you hip folk are calling it now :)</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 </ul>\
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Dsq.Debug.profile(function() {
	if(Dsq.jsonData.request.page == 1 && Dsq.jsonData.request.is_initial_load) {
		Dsq.container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.header() + Dsq.container.innerHTML + Dsq.Templates.footer();
	}
	Dsq.$(Dsq.curPageId).innerHTML = Dsq.$(Dsq.curPageId).innerHTML.replace(Dsq.COMMENTS_RE, Dsq.CommentsHandler);
}); // Dsq.Debug.Profile

// HACK: Resetting cache because we're done with.
Dsq.Utils.gebiFromElementCollectionCache = null;


	
	
	var dsq_styleEl = document.getElementById(disqus_container_id);
	var dsq_anchorEl = document.getElementsByTagName('a')[0];
	
	Dsq.Thread.fc = Dsq.Utils.getStyle(dsq_styleEl, 'color');
	if(dsq_anchorEl) { Dsq.Thread.ac = Dsq.Utils.getStyle(dsq_anchorEl, 'color'); }
	Dsq.Thread.ff = Dsq.Utils.getStyle(dsq_styleEl, (Dsq.Utils.ie || window.opera ? 'fontFamily' : 'font-family'));
	// For Safari / Opera: strip quotes.
	Dsq.Thread.ff = Dsq.Thread.ff.replace(/['"]/g, '');
	Dsq.Thread.fc = encodeURIComponent(Dsq.Thread.fc);
	Dsq.Thread.ac = encodeURIComponent(Dsq.Thread.ac);
	Dsq.Thread.ff = encodeURIComponent(Dsq.Thread.ff);

	
	
	
	if(Dsq.$(Dsq.Templates.addPostContainer)) {
		// TODO: Check to see if theme uses postmessage.
		if (window.disqus_use_postmessage) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$(Dsq.Templates.textareaContainer));
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].init(function() {
				// Use fallback iframe
				Dsq.$(Dsq.Templates.addPostContainer).innerHTML = '';
				var theme = (typeof disqus_frame_theme == 'undefined') ? 'default' : disqus_frame_theme;
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$(Dsq.Templates.addPostContainer), null, {theme: theme});
				// if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
			});
		} else {
			// DEPRECATED
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-post-add'));
		}
	}

	
	

	
	if(document.location.hash != '') {
		document.location.hash = document.location.hash.substring(1);
	}

	Dsq.Popup.showCookieMsgs();

	
	if(document.location.search != '' && location.hash != '#disqus_thread') {
		var reply_id = Dsq.Utils.getRequestParams().dsq;
		if(reply_id) { document.location.hash = 'comment-' + reply_id; }
	}

	
	if((typeof OB_Script != 'undefined') && (typeof OB_versionNum != 'undefined')) {
		if(navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Firefox") != -1) {
			if(window.frames['dsq-reply-frame']) {
				window.frames['dsq-reply-frame'].location = Dsq.Urls.REPLY + (new Date()).getTime() + '&f=scobleizer&t=microsoft_postpones_pdc&to_redirect=' + encodeURIComponent(window.location) + '&ifrs=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css);
			}
		}
	}

	if (Dsq.jsonData.integration.theme == 4) {
		if (Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			Dsq.Realtime.initialize();
		}
	}

	



	window.ExecuteWhen = (function () {
	var obj = {}
	
	// Private
	var running = false;
	var timer = null;
	var pending = [];
	var startTimer = function() {
		running = true;
		timer = setInterval(obj.heartBeat, 100);
	};
	var stopTimer = function() {
		running = false;
		clearInterval(timer);
	};
	
	// Public
	obj.add = function (condition, code) {
		pending.push([condition,code]);
		this.heartBeat(); //!
		if (!running) {
			startTimer();
		}
	};
	obj.heartBeat = function() {
		if (!pending.length) {
			stopTimer();
		}
		var newPending = [];
		for (var i=0; i<pending.length; i++) {
			var cond = pending[i][0];
			var code = pending[i][1];
			// FIXME: if cond or code throw an error, they never get removed from pending
			if (cond()){
				code();
			}
			else {
				newPending.push([cond, code]);
			}
		}
		pending = newPending;
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	return obj;
})();

// also used in embed_thread.js:
window.fbIsReady = function () {return window.FB && FB.init;};
// NOTE: This script gets executed again without threadEl
//       set when we are loaded again as the fbc_receiver.
//       In this case, we don't need the hidden container.

if(!window.FB || !FB.init) {
	if(window.Dsq && Dsq.container) {
		// container is not present when init.js is loaded from an xd-receiver iframe; in this case,
		// we don't need the FB_HiddenContainer anyway.
		var fbDiv = document.createElement('div');
		fbDiv.id = "FB_HiddenContainer";	// Required or else FeatureLoader will execute a document.write.
		fbDiv.style.position = 'absolute';	// This is intentionally not setting display to none as this breaks
		fbDiv.style.top = '-10000px';		// Flash in Safari.
		fbDiv.style.left = '-10000px';
		fbDiv.style.width = '0px';
		fbDiv.style.height = '0px';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(fbDiv);
	}
	var fbJS = document.createElement('script');
	fbJS.type = "text/javascript";
	fbJS.src = "http://static.ak.connect.facebook.com/js/api_lib/v0.4/FeatureLoader.js.php";
	document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(fbJS);

	ExecuteWhen.add(window.fbIsReady,
		function () {
			// HACK: This is a workaround FBC's single domain limitation by
			//		 allowing sites to create multiple forums with different
			//		 Facebook API keys.  This must be used in conjunction with
			//		 disqus_facebook_forum (see authenticateFacebook).
			var facebook_api_key = 'faaf467d0f47abde553c3b8e0e1b3570';
			if (typeof disqus_facebook_api_key != 'undefined') {
				facebook_api_key = disqus_facebook_api_key;
			}

			FB.init(facebook_api_key, window.facebookXdReceiverPath || null,
				{fetchSignedPublicSessionData: true});
		});
}


	


if(typeof(disqus_callback) == 'function') {
	var callback_params = Dsq.Utils.getRequestParams()['dsq_cbp'] || null;

	// We don't care about any errors in third-party code
	try {
		disqus_callback(callback_params);
	} catch (x) {
		if (typeof(console) != 'undefined' && typeof(console.log) == 'function') {
			// But it would be nice to let developers know about them
			console.log(x);
		}
		// pass
	}

	// HACK: We don't know if the callback wraps our container, which may
	// possibly result in a new DOM element.
	Dsq.container = document.getElementById('dsq-content');
}

// Global event handler for narcissus.
if (Dsq.jsonData.integration.theme == 4) {
	var g = Dsq.Utils.ie ? document : window;
	Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(g, 'keydown', function(event) {
		// Handle "enter" key on input for post box.
		if ((event.keyCode || event.which) == 13) {
			var target = Dsq.Utils.ie ? event.srcElement : event.target;
			// For Safari bug, detect text node.
			if (target.nodeType == 3) {
				target = target.parentNode;
			}

			if (target.nodeName == 'INPUT' &&
				target.parentNode.className == 'dsq-input-wrapper') {
				var postId = Dsq.Utils.extractId(target);
				Dsq.Templates.postComment(postId, this, false);
			}
		}
	});
}

})();




