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Re: Dave Winer working on new RSS aggregator?

Gleb Dolgich — Wed, 04 Jan 2006 08:25:48 -0000

Try Novobot (http://www.proggle.com/novo... for a hybrid newspaper/tag/folder view. I'm the author, and I would be glad to hear any comments/suggestions.

Re: Dave Winer working on new RSS aggregator?

ituneslove — Sun, 01 Jan 2006 13:10:58 -0000

180n.com is a preconfigured river of news website disguised in feedreader form for big M news media. It's based on something I call WebRSS, which is simply, skipping all the hard parts of RSS & going straight to the benefits of a feedreader.

Some stuff is still left out, but you can get the drift.

Re: Dave Winer working on new RSS aggregator?

pwb — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:17:17 -0000

I've tried to force myself to use River of news style several times and just cannot get used to it.

Re: Dave Winer working on new RSS aggregator?

An User — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:51:42 -0000

It will probably only support RSS feeds. Atom support will probably be left to another developer, or not implemented at all. RSS isn't the only format. Atom seems to be a more collaborative standard (not designed by one or two people, with updates determined by one person).

Re: Dave Winer working on new RSS aggregator?

andy brudtkuhl — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:43:06 -0000

You should try http://rss.searchfox.com. He has an algorithm that gives you a 'front page' view of all your feeds. After using his application for browsing your feeds for some time, he begins aggregating items from your feeds that you are most interested in. It's very nice as I have 150+ feeds.

Re: Dave Winer working on new RSS aggregator?

Larry Borsato — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 09:17:45 -0000

I agree with Ian. With the river of news (which I already have in NetNewsWire) I would most certainly miss something.

Also the comparison with the newspaper is a poor one. The newspaper comes out once a day, and is static. Even an online newspaper only changes a little bit on a normal day. However, I read around 700 feeds per day, and they change constantly, so you're never really finished scanning them.

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linuxct — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 09:10:57 -0000

This is a great news. Would really looking forward for the new aggregator!

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Ian Betteridge — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 08:11:55 -0000

Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't the Newspaper view of FeedDemon a "river of news" approach? I have around 400 feeds active at the moment, and a single RON view would almost certainly guarentee that I'd miss things. The way FD works is to let you have individual categories - folders - and then just click on the Newspaper view to get a RON for each category. Far, far more efficient than a single-RON approach.

Re: Dave Winer working on new RSS aggregator?

Tom Morris — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:46:06 -0000

It's just been released folks. http://support.opml.org

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Tom Morris — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:52:58 -0000

NewsFire isn't pure River of News. It's two panel. From what I've read of Dave's planned RSS reader, it's going to be one-panel in much the same style as the Radio UserLand aggregator.

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Anona — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:55:16 -0000

Been there done that: NewsFire:

http://www.newsfirerss.com/

Re: Dave Winer working on new RSS aggregator?

Tom Morris — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:32:39 -0000

It's not a solution looking for a problem. It's an alternative to the current solutions.

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grennis — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:24:01 -0000

I don't understand either. I organize my feeds using NewsGator online into a heirarchy of folders. If I want a "River of News" I just click on a root folder. If I don't, I click the individual feeds.

Is this is a solution looking for a problem?

Re: Dave Winer working on new RSS aggregator?

Tom Morris — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:07:34 -0000

Peter: that is exactly what Dave is trying to break free from, and I think he'll do it (he has a knack of taking good ideas from the past and breathing new life in to them). Most of the aggregators I've seen in recent months suck - and none more so than the many box-on-a-page "Web 2.0" aggregators that don't scale beyond about 5 feeds. None of them do what I want them to do. I use Bloglines because it annoys me the least. I've tried Radio UserLand, and I like the aggregator but don't want to use it for my blog. Having an aggregator built in to the OPML Editor will actually be exceptionally useful because I spend an enormous amount of time using it.

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Business 2.0 reader — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:36:39 -0000

Tell him to wait another month. We are removing all the druggery off creating an aggregator.

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kleymeyer — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:20:31 -0000

Most aggregators I know, support the "River of News" view as well as the folders view. It's up to you to set it up to match your preference. Some have already commented how their aggregator supports the RON model. I prefer folders but sometimes I'll go with the RON view. I switch between the two different views by simply selecting an individual folder at a time, or selecting a higher-level folder that contains multiple feeds. I don't understand people's claims that aggregators out there force you into folder views.

Re: Dave Winer working on new RSS aggregator?

Peter Quodling — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:14:17 -0000

Ho Hum, another Aggregator.

What is it about the industry at the moment. No singular innovation. It's all, Brand X just made a widget, let's make a widget too.

Re: Dave Winer working on new RSS aggregator?

Guest — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:03:21 -0000

The "river of news" format is about the most evil presentation of feed reading you can get. Sort of surprised you feel this way. Have you tried a reader with a "mark all read" feature yet? You can still discard massive numbers of feed items if you wish that way, but at the same time, be able to read just the items you care about if you only have a small time period to check feeds in at the moment.

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randyh — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:17:13 -0000

River of News works better if there is some kind of "attention" support. Otherwise, the more feeds you subscribe to the more you dilute the content you're probably interested in.

Re: Dave Winer working on new RSS aggregator?

Ross — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:17:04 -0000

Is the Google Reader not a RiverOfNews then? No folders or three pane view there.

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Jay Welshofer — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:15:03 -0000

Use NewsGator with Outlook 2003. Create a separate PST for your RSS feeds and create one base folder. Let NewsGator name the folders automatically. Now create a Search folder in Outlook that lets you see all unread mail in the base folder and its children. Done. Best of both worlds, not to mention NewsGator's excellent sync with the web reader and other (RSSBandit!) clients.

I find this approach much more useful and flexible than the "river of news" format, but hey, to each his own, and I am always open to trying new things. I would LOVE to see Outlook 12 support NewsGator though...

-jlw

Re: Dave Winer working on new RSS aggregator?

JG — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:57:53 -0000

I always dread opening Outlook. That's why I use a decent mail client.

Re: Dave Winer working on new RSS aggregator?

Alex — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:45:03 -0000

Have you used Onfolio (www.onfolio.com)? There is a feed newspaper view you can use that pretty much sounds like the 'river of news'.

The good thing about onfolio is that it also allows you to create stores of information that may be useful to you, for instance web site links, web site content, emails and feeds. All this content is searchable. An absolutely fantastic tool.