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I had some of the biggest fashion groups in Canada, NYC and London. FB declared war.
I *NEVER* spammed once. And all my work was community focused. All for the independent fashion scene.
My attempts to contact them (very professionally) went ignored.
I've lobbied against them ever since. Particularly having scrutinizes their privacy policies.
Every time someone logs off of FB an angel gets their wings. I'm tellin' you.
— Blas
Why people fight over stuff like this when your energy could be put to better use leveraging another social network astounds me.
FB is no Google, why do we expect them to be so open?
Statistically, the percentage of false positives may be low - but if it happens to a high profile member or someone with media connections, the bad PR is incalculable.
If anyone is interested. Here's a couple (very wordy) post telling the story__
http://www.blasphemebourne.com/2007/10/29/faceb...
http://www.blasphemebourne.com/2007/11/06/facel...
B
My bigest problem, is they said I was baned for violating the TOS, however nobody could tell me *what portion* of the TOS I had violated.
I think I may have gone "poke crazy" one day. Either that or a signature on wall posts, however I don't post to walls that much.
Sent one email, then got a wishy washy answer, Then I pushed harder 3 weeks later.
There was a "final answer" of sorry, can let you back on. But I resent a few more times and got a differant case #, as well as had some friends make a little noise.
They let me back on, but I don't know what I even did wrong. My "network" was more important than "having an account". (note to self... put wife / friend as an admin on my "service page"
Adam Nollmeyer
Phoenix AZ Photographer
Why aren't they getting more space?
No need to tell you that your blog, name and proper linking will be in place clearly showing who the author of this interview and this news is...
Thanks in advance
Long story short: after spending months trying to convince them I really didn't know how I broke their TOS, and them refusing to tell me how I broke their TOS and simply telling me I'm banned for life I gave up. I opened a new account under an assumed name and carried on my business ever since, in ever present fear of being discovered. It's been over a year and I've made that company over a million dollars, still under an assumed name. They love my new account.
Now I'm not blaming him but "always be closing" springs to mind listening to Nathan on that interview, he's very keen on fronting his site and maybe that's what triggered the facebook lock out. In the way he spoke he has a definite pitch that he sticks to so it's quite likely that his communications to group members and his message and friend request replies could well have contained the same pitch boiler plate style... Bleep bleep bleep Spam alarm at Facebook HQ, bye bye Nathan?
Claiming to have no time to orchestrate a spam offensive isn't the best of defences though, Nathan may want to rethink that line. By his own earlier admission he has time to "run this fantastic fashion site, myownrunway.com which is fantastic and about fashion at myownrunway.com" and enough time to run several groups messaging everyone that joins by the sound of it and replying to 40+ friend requests daily.
I think facebook needs a sin-bin for sure, suspend access for a few days and take the chill out time to contact recipients of the supposed spam and ask them to rate it for spaminess, let the community, those supposedly affected have their say?
All this does, though, is keep me from taking Facebook seriously as a brand.
I remember and in fact still see that very problem on forums a boards when moderators erase posts and threads, it gives no one any boundaries. In real world communities we get great value from seeing the bounds of decency being enforced, it makes us feel more secure, secure in our own actions as much as anything so your so right with that last observation.
Facebook need to be really smart with this stuff, it could really hurt them to be perceived as having a split personality. On one hand they openly encourage folks to build business' in Facebook using the platform but, if someone ventures into slightly business like territory with their persona they get swatted.
Secondly, what about the tons really spammy applications? I got a "You have received a new video from XYZ, click here to view" in my inbox the other day. Clicking the link opened a window where I was prompted to invite 13 of my friends to install the app -before- I could view the video I was sent. Of course, I guess there wasn't even a video to start with, and had I "invited" the 13 friends, they would also have received a "you have a video from Mike, click here to view". And this is happening daily, and I see these apps last for days or weeks without any action taken from Facebook. Ah, I get it - ads and pageviews...that's the difference.
FYI, I was thinking about your question from the Dev Garage last week. The feature you were looking for (export to Outlook) existed at one point. When I joined Facebook in late 2004, I exported my contacts to my Apple Address Book because Facebook let me put their data in a CSV file.
The feature disappeared sometime in 2005. When I recently made an inquiry, they acted as if it had never existed.
Odd.
They have memorials for mass murderers, but ban people for no real reason?
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=37625250248
http://www.randomoddity.com/2008/03/18/treat-fa...
Scary stuff!
Recently we all moved our efforts to networking with scientists around the world through Facebook.
A colleague, the eminant scientist Dr Leonid Gavrilov started a group for we longevity science people, and it was a great success.
Researchers from Germany, Croatia, and all over the globe exchanged notes on important medical developments.
Great!
Untill Leonid was kicked off without warning!
With Leonid's dissappearance, all the discussions and topics we had engaged in were gone too.
The good doctor told me there was no warning he had outstripped any Facebook usage limitations, he was simply removed. The email he recieved stated he had been warned, and was pretty draconian in tone, to such an eminant and good hearted scientist.
This promts me fire off articles in the press, righfully questioning the wisdom of now using Facebook.
Ive written to them, telling them of my concerns about the destruction of information given in good faith to them, curtacy of their servers.
If they wish to shoot themselves in the balls, then I am also more than happy to help them in that direction.
I cant help but imagine the steriotype of spotty, mal-adjusted shit bags slouching in their office chairs, chewing on toxic pens and dounuts, playing doom and surfing porn in between randomly closing peoples accounts, and writing nasty letters to people -
Or perhaps its run by monkeys on crack
I am trying to get Facebook called to account for this type of behaviour.
Anyone care to join in if I can find a complaints body who will take this on???
Cheers all
Soren